captioning sponsored by cbs >> i'm major garrett in washington. this week on "face the nation," the perilous evacuation of americans from afghanistan continues. the ensuing chaos puts the biden administration on defense. the situation at the kabul airport is increasingly dire, as the united states struggles to get americans and the thousands of afghans who helped fight the taliban for the last 20 years out safely. the biden administration is working to ramp up evacuations, but it is facing a nine-day deadline to complete the mission. >> biden: any americans who want to come home, we will get you home. make no mistake: this evacuation mission is dangerous. i cannot promise what the final outcome will be. >> taliban leaders are in

kabul, working to build a new government, as the criticism about the president's handling of this crisis grows. >> biden: there will be plenty of time to criticize when this operation is over. now -- now i'm focused on getting this job done. >> we'll get the latest from secretary of state antony blinken, and we'll hear from former u.s. ambassador to the united states nikki haley, and former u.s. ambassador to afghanistan, ryan crocker. plus the crisis here at home as tropical storm henri threatens the northeast coastline, and the potential forb flooding is cause for great concern. and with more schools open this week and with cases and hospitalizations and the number of deaths continuing to surge, the delta variant will undoubtedly get worse. we will talk to republican larry hogan and dr. dr. scott gottlieb. it is all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪

>> garrett: good morning, and welcome to "face the nation." we begin with the storm threatening the east coast. henri has been downgraded to tropical storm status, but that doesn't necessarily mean the threat is any less severe. jeff berardelli is on long island, and, jeff, what are you seeing? >> yeah, major, this is the worst it has been. we've been seeing gusts 55, 60 mile-an-hour. things are getting worse. but the core of the storm has missed us to the northeast. take a look behind me. pounding surf. we've seen swells 10 to 15 feet, and now we have this sideways rain running right towards us. the storm is located near block island, near the coast of rhode island to connecticut, where the worst is likely to be. and we'll see about five feet of storm surge as the

storm makes its way on shore, and couple that with a full moon, and that makes it worse. wind gusts up to around 80 miles per hour, and that means we're liking to see some power outages, as well as all of the heavy rain that you can see. >> garrett: jeff, for those in the path of this storm, how concerned should they be about the potential of flooding? >> yes, so this could be what this storm is remembered for. i mean, last night in new york city, the concert was canceled. hundreds of miles away from the center of henri, we had all of that heavy rain. the reason why? upper level low connected the mid-atlantic through a tropical connection, and so we have a little trough that was set up that dumped rain to the tune of five to eight inches of rainfall. we'll see this storm kind of slow down as it moves inland, dump heavy rain way away from the center.

that means we'll see life-threatening flashflooding. it is having major impact. >> garrett: we want to go now to kris van cleave in old saber, connecticut, as residents brace for landfall. kris, tell us what you're seeing? >> reporter: people are told to evacuate. the concern here is going to be the amount of rain and the wind. here in connecticut, they have warned about 69% of its costumers could be left without power. and they say so restore the power could take eight to 21 days. think about that, three whole weeks. this dumped another three to six inches of rain. theothey're worried about flooding, and in about a half hour, high tide that could lead to storm surge. >> garrett: heavy weather is coming. kris van cleave, thank you.

we turn to the increasingly volatile situation in afghanistan. holly williams reported now from london. >> reporter: there is terror in kabul as they clamor to escape the islamic extremists who seized control of afghanistan. this man says he was a translator, and he is seeking refuge for his wine and two-month-old baby, who is worried won't survive. just imagine the despair that drives a mother or father to do this: passing their baby over razor wire to american soldiers. u.s. troops and their allies appear on edge, trying to calm a situation that has lurched out of control. some afghans have been crushed to death, and some have been killed trying to cling to planes. for two decades american troops have fought the taliban.

nearly 2500 laid down their lives. now as the u.s. has a hasty retreat, they're separated from the militants by similar barricades. a u.s. official told cbs news that isis could use the chaos to carry off an attack. at a press conference this week, a taliban spokesman vowed the group would not seek revenge and promised to respect women's rights within the framework of islamic law.[speaking foreign language] >> reporter: many afghans simply don't believe them. like this woman, who says she used to play basketball for the national team. >> and they're scared, and i'm scared because i'm a girl. >> reporter: there are already reports of the taliban going door to door hunting for those who worked with foreigners and threatening execution. >> garrett: holly williams reporting from

london. cbs news correspondent roxana saberi is in the region, and she filed this report from doha. >> reporter: at this air base, thousands of evacuees have been flown in from afghanistan over the past several days. the pentagon says that u.s. troops have already air-lifted around 25,000 people out of the country. the facility here has been so overwhelmed by the influx, it hit capacity two days ago. and flights from afghanistan had to be suspended for several hours. there are now reports that the u.s. government will compel commercial airlines to help ferry tens of thousands of evacuees. several people have described for cbs news the conditions. one was a man we met on the flight from afghanistan last week, who said he was a former translator for the u.s. military. he said it was crowded, very hot, and one shower for thousands of men and women. now cbs news has learned the u.s. and qatar are building extra space and

installing more showers and toilets to accommodate the evacuees. they're also trying to screen them faster and ease the crowding by flying them to countries like germany and the u.s. we do get the impression that everyone here is trying their best, and despite the difficult conditions, the evacuees are grateful for the help they've received. many now face an uncertain future outside their homelands as refugees. >> garrett: roxana saberi reporting from doha. a new cbs news poll out this morning finds americans are unhappy with the turn of events in afghanistan and president biden's handling of the withdrawal and evacuation. 74% of those surveyed say the removal of u.s. troops has either gone very badly or somewhat badly. two-thirds says president biden, to their minds, does not have a clear plan for evacuating u.s. citizens. americans also fear wider repercussions. six in 10 say the threat of terrorism will not increase with the taliban in control of afghanistan.

these negative assessments, however, have not shaken most americans attitudes about leaving afghanistan. they still support that, but they are critical of how it has all been handled. and this has hurt president biden's overall approval ratings. they have dropped 8 points since last month. we go to the state department, and secretary of state anthony blinken. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning, major. >> garrett: your counter-part, jake sullivan, says the united states has secured or is looking into alternate methods to move u.s. personnel from where they are to the karzai international airport. what specifically can you tell us about that? >> first, major, we've gotten about 8,000 people out over the last 24 hours. if you go back to july, when this effort really started, we got about 30,000 people out between our military flights and the charters we've organized to get out of kabul and out of afghanistan. but we've seen these

wrenching scenesf ped it i iredy volatile situation, and we're very focused on that. first, we're moving people out as quickly as we can from inside the airport and out of afghanistan to alleviate crowding at the airport so we can get people inside. and second, and most importantly, we're in direct contact with american citizens and others, and we're able to guide them the best way to get to the airport, what to do when they get there, and that is the, i think, safest and most affective way, to get people there, get them in, and get them out. that's what we're focused on. one other point: we also have agreements with more than two dozen countries on four continents to help service as transit points or relocation points for people getting out of afghanistan. as we finish processing them and during security checks, and that, too, i think is going to

alleviated some of the boldbottlenecks we have seem in the system to enable this to flow for quickly. >> garrett: can we get precise on this, when jake sullivan says "alternate methods," does that mean they're going to find americans and bringing them safely there? >> the best way and the most effective way is to be in direct contact with them and to help guide them in, to give them instructions on where to go, when to go there, and then we can bring them into the airport safely and effectively. >> garrett: so they're still basically on their own getting into the airport? >> we found the best way to do this is to be in direct contact with them. we will do whatever it takes to get americans home and out of harm's way. >> garrett: civilian airlines are being added to the mix. why and what is that going to look like? >> there is a process by which we can ask civilian

airlines to join in this effort, not to bring people out of kabul, but to bring them from these different staging points that we have arranged, like any said, with nearly two dozen countries around the world, because once they're there, they will spend some time there, when we can finish processing them and doing security and background checks, and then they move on to their ultimate destinations. we need more planes in the mix to move them from these initial points of landing on to the places they will ultimately resettle. >> garrett: how long will the karzai international airport remain open with the united states military? >> what we're focused on is getting as many people out as fast as we can and as safely as we can. it is also important to note that the taliban has said it intends to keep the airport open, it wants a functioning airport, and he has made a commitment about the safe passage of

people with no deadline attached to it. >> garrett: do we have a deadline, mr. secretary? will it stay open after august 31st? >> again, our focus is making sure every single day we're getting as many people out as fast as we can. >> garrett: all the people -- obviously you have said our people and the afghan interpreters, and does that umbrella term extend to n.g.o.s that have help throughout the 20 years in afghanistan? >> yes -- major, two things: obviously american citizens are our first priority, and allies and partners, we're committed to them and helping them get out. and also, to your point, afghans more broadly at risk. but our focus is on getting americans out if they want to leave. >> garrett: the president said we have an agreement with the taliban. mr. secretary, that

implies we're negotiating with them. does that not confer upon them already legitimacy? >> no. we have, for a long time, had contact with the taliban both at a political level in doha, going back some years, as well as now on the ground in kabul, a working relationship in order to deconflict, in order to work through any problems with people getting to the airport. that's been very important to making sure that we can actually advance our own interests in getting people out safely and affectively as possible. so that is the nature of the relationship. >> garrett: some might listen to you, mr. secretary, and say, oh, we have to ask the taliban for permission for american citizens to leave. true or not true? >> they're in control of kabul. that is the reality. that is the reality that we have to deal with. >> garrett: how comfortable are you with that, mr. secretary? >> what i'm focused on, what we're all focused on, is getting people out and making sure that we're

doing everything possible to do that. and in this case, it is, i think, a requirement of the job to be in contact with the taliban, which controls kabul. look, what we've seen, major, is also pretty remarkable. go back a week. the government fell -- and, by the way, i was on the phone with president karzai the day before, when he was telling me his intent, as he put it, to fight to the death. the next day he was gone. the military collapsed. in the space of that week, our military went in, secured the airport, got our embassy to safety at the airport from the embassy compound, began this remarkable evacuation effort. as i said, we got about 8,000 people out in the last 24 hours. and going back to the end of july, it is 30,000 people. that's extraordinary. it doesn't just happen. a tremendous amount of planning went into that, including a lot of pre-planning. >> garrett: mr. secretary, you may

have heard in our poll that 60% that we talked to fear there is more threat in the united states because the taliban is in control of afghanistan. are they wrong? >> remember, major, we went to afghanistan for one reason, one major purpose -- >> garrett: right now they're fearful. are they wrong? >> the threat of terrorism memetastasize out of afghanistan many years ago. we were able to vastly diminish al-qaeda. we're putting in place measures over the horizon, as we say, to act on it. we have terrorist threats that are more acute in other places in the world, and we don't have military on the ground. it has grown immensely, and we're able to do things we couldn't do 20

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♪ >> garrett: we are back with the first ambassador to the united nations under president trump. nikki haley. madam ambassador, good morning. i want to read to you something you put on twitter: "to have our general say they're depending on diplomacy with the taliban is an unbelievable scenario. negotiating with the taliban, it is like dealing with the devil." president biden says it is not negotiating with the taliban. do you agree with that? >> i agree. they are not negotiating with the taliban. they completely surrendered to the taliban. they surrendered baghram air force base and $80 billion worth of equipment we should have gotten out there. they withdrew our troops before they withdrew the

american people, and they abandoned our afghan allies, who kept people like my husband safe while they were overseas deploying. no, there was no negotiating. this was a complete and total surrender and an embarrassing failure. >> garrett: do you believe that the biden white house has to talk and negotiate with the taliban now just to ensure american safety as this evacuation continues? >> our american people there are our number one priority. now they have to do whatever it takes to get our americans out. there is -- you know, people like my husband, you ask any of our soldiers, any of our men and women, they would go in there in a second to get our americans out. now it is a matter of doing whatever it takes to make sure we have them taken care of. this is an unbelievable scenario, where letter rliterallythe taliban has our americans held hostage. it is a scary time. we have to make sure we're working with our allies who literally won't trust us at this time and think

we havet our way. >> garrett: someone you know well, mike pompeo, stood alongside one of the taliban founders and helped negotiate this deal in which president trump signed an agreement to have the united states forces out earlier this year. did that set in motion what we're seeing now? >> i think everybody wants to go back and talk about trump. the truth is under four years of trump, afghanistan was safe. we made sure we kept terrorism at bay, and that we came from a strength of position. what has happened with seven months of biden, we completely surrendered and humiliated ourselves in the eyes of the world. there are times when you have to negotiate with the devil, but you negotiate with the devil from a point of strength. you don't do it from a point of weakness. we literally have no leverage with the taliban. all we're going to see them do is they're going to buy time and act like they're going to be nice until august 31st, and then all of those women

and girls -- everything is going to go back to the way it was. you'll have sex slaves and child marriages and girls no longer allowed in school. you'll have our americans, any that are there will be in danger, and all of our afghan allies will be killed if we don't do something. this is serious. the biden administration needs to go back and extend that august 31st deadline and make sure that the taliban knows they've got to let people into the airport. we've got to get our americans out. we've got to stay true to those afghan allies that we made promises to, and we've got to make sure we do this in a very strong way going forward. >> garrett: yes or no question: should the united states expand the prim maperimeter around the airport? >> we have to do whatever it takes. the americans we need to get out are not near kabul. they're on the outskirts. the afghan allies are out there. they can't even get through the check points to get to the airport. this is a time where we need to have a list of our

americans. we need to make contact with where they are. and we've got to go get them if they can't get to the airport. i can't believe that biden got it so wrong that he said no americans were having a hard time coming to the airport. he said al-qaeda was no longer in afghanistan. he said our allies were fine with what he did. either the people around biden aren't telling him the truth, or he is not thinking in a normal way. something is very wrong here. this is not about partisanship, major. this is about america and strength and making sure we get americans out of there alive. i'm extremely concerned about the safety of our men and women in the military. i'm concerned about the safety of our americans that are still there. i'm concerned about the safety of our afghan allies. you cannot trust the taliban, and you have to really deal with them in a way that they know we're going to hold them accountable, and we are coming at this from a moment of strength. >> garrett: before you let you go, madam ambassador, do you

understand it to be true if president trump had been re-elected, he had an evacuation withdrawal plan on paper that would look fundamentally different than the biden administration? >> let's be clear: president trump wanted to see soldiers come out of afghanistan. it is not about that. it is not what you do, but how you do it. he never would have pulled our soldiers out without making sure americans and all of our equipment and weaponry was out beforehand. he would never have allowed the taliban to take over afghanistan without conditions. anyone who wants to say this was already set in motion, it is not what was going to happen, it is how it happened. it happened in the most embarrassing, humiliating way that really angers soldiers like my husband and all of those that sacrificed. it puts us in danger that you've got al-qaeda and the taliban holding hands in the streets of afghanistan, now saying death to america. and now america is much less safe.

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♪ this is the "cbs overnight news." good evening and thanks for joining us. there is breaking news on several fronts tonight. president biden late today addressed the increasingly dangerous situation in afghanistan. he also pledged help to people impacted by henri. the storm pushing into new england right now. we begin tonight with devastating weather in tennessee. more than 20 people are dead, dozens are missing after extreme flooding this weekend. at least 15f rain fell. humphries county, an hour west of nashville, was hardest hit. cbs' jesse mitchell is there.