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captioning sponsored by cbs >> i'm ed o'keefe in washington, and this week on "face the nation," a trifecta of catastrophes faces the nation and president biden. overnight, hurricane ida is an extremely dangerous category 4 storm, and expected to strike the gulf coast later today, with winds topping 150 miles per hour, and potentially dangerous double-digit storm surge in at least three states. the forecast for damage: grim. >> it is turning into a very, very dangerous storm. this will be one of the strongest hurricanes to hit anywhere in louisiana since the '50s. >> and we'll hear from john bel edwards.
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then...the dire situation in afghanistan, with just hours to go before the taliban's get out of the country deadline, the threat of more attacks on the kabul airport remains high. back home, the country moarmourns the 13 military service members who were killed at the kabul airport. >> biden: we will not forgive. we will not forget. we will hunt you down and make you pay. >> the president is already making good on that promise. a u.s. drone strike killed two isis leaders involved with the airport bombing attack. will there be more bombing retaliation against isis-k? we'll talk with jake sullivan and republican senator lindsey graham. finally, the delta variant continues its rampage. former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb joins us. it is all ahead on "face the nation." ♪
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>> good morning and welcome to "face the nation." as we come on the air this busy sunday morning, hurricane ida is threatening the gulf coast, likely hitting mid-afternoon, exactly 16 years to the day that hurricane katrina made landfall and the terror threat, meanwhile, in afghanistan is still extremely high has the u.s. continues air lifts to evacuate the last remaining americans. president biden is in dover, delaware this morning, for the dignified transfer of the remains of the 13 americans killed in the kabul airport suicide bombing last week. it also killed more than 270 afghans. plus, the delta variant continues to spread, particularly among children. but we begin this morning on lo louisiana gulf coast. omar villafranca has more.
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>> reporter: ed, good morning. at last check, there were about 30,000 people without power. we're seeing some gusts, a little bit of rain, and we're also seeing somprpa s this box behind me, the hotel is getting ready to put up a giant flood wall here, the time preparations as this storm inches towards louisiana's coast right now. thousands of people weren't taking any chances. they started evacuating days before, clogging the roads and highways out of new orleans. there was a run on gasoline, people filling up their cars and also their generators. and there was a run on food, as people were trying to hunker down and get ready for what could be a rough ride here in louisiana. this storm, ed, will be one of the biggest tests for the city's levy system at katrina. it had a price tag of more than $14 billion, so we'll have to see how it holds up. but people are just getting ready for the big storm to hit the big easy. >> stay safe.
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we want to go to mireya villarreal, where the storm is expected to make landfall. >> reporter: good morning, ed. this is a gulf community. we have about 33,000, 34,000 people. as cliche as it sous thbefore the storm. we have rain coming in, and strong winds last night as some of the bands hit this particular community. really, we're expected to take the brunt of the storm in three to four hours. all of the major roadways in and out of these communities are closed down. there are ways to get out if absolutely necessary, but for the most part people are being told to stay off the roads. businesses have been shut down, boarded up, many of them, nd to kind of give a prediction of what we've been seeing, we talked to some of the people here at the hospital. a lot of their critical patients were ambulanced out of this area and north just to make sure they stayed safe. people that i've spoken with that are staying in
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the same hotel as us have said we have never lived through this kind of storm. predictions right now, between 10 and 15 feet of storm surge, and between 15, and 20 inches of rain. that's where the biggest concern comes in for a lot of these communities along the gulf coast: the amount of flooding they will see is unprecedented. again, people have stayed inside. the hope is they keep inside if they decided sto stay in their homes. and more than anything, they're hoping that ida moves quickly through this area. >> stay safe. we want to turn to meteorologist and climate specialist jeff berardelli. jeff, this is moving quickly? >> it is moving quickly. it will make landfall in about an hour and a half or so. to put it into perspective, for the folks that are watching us from this area, you've been through many hurricanes. you have never experienced a hurricane this intense in terms of wind. this is going to cause
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catastrophic damage. if you're riding this out in your home, you want to be in an interior room, away from windows, and you want to have a mattress nearby so you can pull it over yourself and your family if you're structure is compromised. take a look at the storm. it doesn't get more classic than this. it is just literally an hour, hour and a half, from making landfall. right now it has winds of 150. it is very close to becoming a category 5. it is a strgtngstor landfall. itl g half.anthr an take a looeche. 142 miles per hour possible in grand aisle, and 90 poli plus in new orleans. in addition to that, 45-foot waves on shore, when they crash on shore, there will be 12 to 15 feet of storm surge, and on top of that, as much as
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15 to 20 inches of rain. this is a life-threatening situation, and you have to take every precaution you can to save life and property. >> this is moving north, and it is a big threat to the rest of the country. but we want to go to dr. john bel edwards, with emergency preparedness in baton rouge. give us the sense, is your state ready for this? and did enough of your residents get out of way ahead of the storm? >> first, ed, thank you very much. we'll know whether or not enough people evacuated. it appears hundreds of thousands of people took the opportunity yesterday to leave. especially in the low-lying areas in southeast louisiana, along the coast. those that are not protected by our much enhanced hurricane and storm risk reduction system, the one you mentioned a while ago, where there has been about
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a $14 billion investment since hurricane katrina over the past 16 years. all of our modeling shows that the most populous parts of southeast louisiana inside that system are going to be protected from storm surge. you still have wind threat and rain threat as well. it is really south along the coast. we think an awful lot of people did evacuate, but this is a very difficult storm. as you mentioned, it is going to come in with sustained winds of over 150 miles per hour. so there is virtually no difference between a very, very strong cat 4or a cat 5 storm. so we're absolutely doing everything we can now to get people to take those last-minute steps. we asked people to make sure when they went to bed last night, they were prepared to ride out the storm and they would go to bed where they intended to ride out the storm. >> bottom line, the $14
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billion levy system should hold? >> yes -- well, that's -- all of our modeling shows that. we feel very good about what is inside the hurricane risk reduction system. we have lesser systems of protection built along the coast, where the levies aren't as high and they're not as fortified, and we're very concerned there. this will be a tremendous test of those systems. quite frankly, it will be the strongest test we've had yet for the current hurricane and storm risk reduction system itself. >> understood. your state is about 41% fully vaccinated from covid-19. you have one of the highest hospitalization rates when it comes to the pandemic among states in the union, and most of the major hospitals weren't evacuating patients ahead of this storm. are they going to be all right as this storm passes over? >> this will be a real challenge, too. the good news is -- and it's relative -- over the last 10 days we've been able to reduce our net
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inpatient census by about 500. most of that in southeast louisiana. so we did create a little bit of additional capacity. evacuating these large hospitals is not an option because there are not any other hospitals with the capacity to take them. we were table to evacuate over 20 nursing homes and rehab facilities and behavioral facilities and those sorts of things. but when you think in terms of hospitals, it is just not possible. so we node they have been working extremely hard. they all have generators and they all have the fuel on hand and the extra food and the things they're going to need. but, quite frankly, the wind, we expect, will cause power outages across much of southeast louisiana. it is impossible today to say how long the power will be out. and that begins to test your systems, whether it is the opportunity to deliver water to the hospitals. you can't run a ventilator without electricity. i will tell you, our federal partners are leaning very far forward
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in terms of having additional generators and majorr storm that is going to test us in ways that we've not been tested before for a lot of reaso. but this covid situation is certainly one of them. >> 16 years since hurricane katrina hit louisiana and ida is on your doorstep. governor edwards, our best to you. i have a feeling we'll be talking to you in a couple of days. we appreciate your pime. >> thank you, ed. we invite the prayers of the country. >> you've got mine. "face the nation" will be basketbback in a minute. we've got breaking news on the situation of afghanistan. stay with us. does your vitamin c last twenty-four hours? only nature's bounty does. immune twenty-four hour plus has longer lasting vitamin c. plus, herbal and other immune superstars.
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charlie, good morning. >> reporter: ed, good morning to you. this morning the u.s. state department warned americans once again to if you're there, leave immediately, citing new credible threats after that drone strike against isis militants. they are bracing for the possibility of another terrorist attack as one of the largest air lifts in american history enters its final and most dangerous phase. isis retaliation for this, reported to be images of the aftermath of the hell fire missile drone strike the pentagon says killed an isis planner and a facilitator in eastern afghanistan. new eye-witness accounts have emerged after the isis suicide bombing at the airport, accusing u.s. and turkish airports of opening fire on the crowd after the explosion. >> he wasn't killed by the taliban or isis. >> reporter: how can you be sure? >> because of the bullet. the bullet inside of his
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head. right here. near to his ear. >> reporter: the pentagon acknowledged the possibility that some people may have been shot beeson ierrvice mem way. remaining american forces at the airport are now beginning to head home themselves. the u.k. was the last of european coalition flights and forces to wrap up their own evacuations. the final plane out taking off yesterday. the white house says more than 120,000 people have now been evacuated, including 5400 americans. with the window now slamming shut at the airport, hundreds of thousands of desperate afghans have been scrambling to the border with pakistan, terrified of life under taliban rule. and we're getting late word this morning of explosions in kabul. we understand it appears to be a u.s. airstrike on
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a suspected isis suicide vehicle that was headed towards the airport. ed? >> charlie, thank you. we turn now to cbs news national security correspondent david martin who has more. what do you know? >> of course car bombs are a huge threat to the can muhor thane a car bomb that suicide bomber who killed 13 on thursday. so they had indications that there was a vehicle loaded with explosives, and they conducted an airstrike against that vehicle. and they got secondary explosions, which would indicate that, in fact, there were explosives on that vehicle. so this appears to have been what the u.s. military calls an imminent threat to the airport. >> and we got them before they were able to get there, it looks like? >> that's what they think. >> you have learned more about what happened on thursday at the airport,
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amid a lot of questions about why so many service members might have been in one area that would have caused them to die. what have you learned? >> it kind of makes you grind your teeth because that gate where the explosion occurred was due to be closed, and they kept it open because british troops who were based in a hotel several hundred yards away had decided they were going to go back to the airport as part of their pullout. so the gate was kept open longer than planned. the suicide bomber got there first. >> wow! >> and he was wearing 25 pounds of explosives. >> which you pointed out is more than a suicide bomber in this situations would normally wear, which is what caused so many to die? >> yeah. >> we have seen the retaliatory strike friday night. did they get who they wanted? >> they got who they wanted. i don't think for a second they think they knocked isis out of the game.
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they're looking for more targets. the president has said there will be more strikes, but you've got to find the targets first. and after that thursday night strike, i betcha a lot of isis senior leae cell phones. >> sure. that way they won't be found. how much more difficult is it going to be to conduct these kinds of missions once we're out on tuesday? >> you know, the more you take down a terrorist organization is with raids, night after night after night, seizing cell phones, seizing laptops, exploiting all of the intelligence on there, and then doing it again. you know, in two days, there are going to be no troops on the ground in afghanistan. so we're going to lose that capability to conduct those night raids. >> you've covered all 20 years of this war in afghanistan, you've walked the halls of the pentagon for all of it.
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what has the mood been like over there the last two weeks? >> oh, man, it just wasn't supposed to end this way. the president out at dover today for 13 dead. i mean, you look at it. when we went into afghanistan, the primary threat was a terrorist attack. and now we're leaving 20 years later, and the primary threat is a terrorist attack. the difference is that in 2001 we were worried about another attack on our homeland. today we are worried about an attack on our troops in kabul. thousands of miles away from the u.s. so maybe that's what we got out of 20 years of war. hahard to think. >> david martin, thank you for continuing to cover this. and we'll be right back graham. stay with us. tap your way to your savings goals.
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how the president is conducting this withdrawal. but give us a specific sense of what you would have done differently. >> senator: number one, i wouldn't have withdrawn. i would have kept the counterterrorism people on the ground. your reporter indicated when we have people working on the ground with indigenous forces, that is the best policy against another 9/11. i would have held the taliban to the conditions set out in the agreement with trump. let me tell you where i think we're at. this is a catalytic -- this is just a fare beyond my ability to describe it. it has been a very emotional couple days for all of us. the parade of horribles is aout to unfold. we're leaving thousands of afghan allies behind us. we're going to leave hundreds of american citizens behind. the chance of another 9/11 just went through the roof. thethese drott
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not degrade isis. the number of isis fighters have doubled. we've turned our backs on allies who would have helped us in the future, and we've set the conditions for 9/11. and we did not end this war. president biden said he wanted to take this afghanistan off the plate for future presidents. he has done the exact opposite. for the next 20 years american presidents will be dealing with this catastrophe in afghanistan. this war has not ended. we've entered into a new deadly chapter. terrorists are now in charge of afghanistan. >> o'keefe: you said we're going to leave thousands of americans behind. the state department -- >> no. hundreds of americans. hundreds of americans behind. >> o'keefe: i wanted to skn thing idn't. understood. >> senator: yes. >> o'keefe: you talked about propping up some former afghan government officials as a new provincial government that the united states should recognize. how would that work and would that require us having a far greater
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presence in the country? >> senator: good question. the first thing we need to do is not recognize the taliban as the legitimate government of afghanistan. boris johnson said don't recognize the taliban. you don't want to recognize a terrorist group who takes land by force. we have the vice president in panjar province. we can provide military aid and humanitarian aid. i'm not suggesting we have troops on the ground. but that can be an evacuation site for the future. the last thing you want to do is legitimize this takeover of afghanistan. we'll have hostages left behind and american citizens. do not legitimize the taliban, do not recognize them, because if you do, you're going to put americans at risk all over the world. because other terrorist organizations will see, ah, the best way to get america's attention is to kidnap american citizens. we're in a very dangerous
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situation in afghanistan. i'm worried about the consequences of how we deal with afghanistan can affect our footprint all over the world. >> in you kinds of conquencesshhe psidentk hae? >>ell, did he get good advice and turn it down. did he get bad advice and take it? what the hell happened? whose decision was it to pull all of the troops out. i just don't know. i think he should be facing a lot of consequences here. because the one thing he wanted to do -- he is a decent man -- it's not about him being a decent man -- he wanted to end the war in afghanistan and make sure we didn't have to deal with it in the future. he has done the exact ob set. opposite. he has created the conditions for isis to flourish in afghanistan. they have doubled the number of troops because of the jail break. and the taliban is now in charge of the country. the likelihood of an
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attack on hour homeland is through the roof. it was medium a month ago, and it has to be high as hell now. you cannot break isis through drone attacks. you have to have people on the ground hitting these people day in and day out. he deserves a lot of accouaccountability for this. >> o'keefe: on thursday you called for his impeachment over afghanistan. do you still think he should be impeached on? >> yes. i think it is a dereliction of duty to leaves thousands of americans behind, and to abandon afghans who fought beside our side. to create conditions for another 9/11. yeah, i think he is derelict as commander in chief. i think he ignored sound advice, and this is joe biden being joe biden. he has been this way for 40 years, but now he is the commander in chief. he is not a senator; he is
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not the vice president. i think the best you could describe it is dereliction of duty at the highest level. >> o'keefe: senator graham, he obviously disagrees with the president. good to see you. and we'll be right back. ♪ with downy infusions, let the scent set the mood. feel the difference with downy. (vo) i am living with cll and i am living longer. thanks to imbruvica. imbruvica is a prescription medicine for adults with cll or chronic lymphocytic leukemia. it will not work for everyone. imbruvica is the #1 prescribed oral therapy for cll,
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