on behalf of the archdiocese of san francisco, welcome to mosaic. i will speak with a couple of interesting people. they will tell us about one of life's greatest pleasures. i will not make a guess what that pleasure is. it is the pleasure of generosity and the satisfaction of sharing with others and the deeper fulfillment that comes with being a responsible member of a community of self giving people who take the trouble to build relationships that enrich

the lives we share. i do want to point out and say thank you for an important instance of generosity and sharing and community building. that is the program you are watching now. this has been kpix's gift to the community for decades. i look back into the dusty archives and the best sources of mosaic showed it hit the air in 1980, which means we are in the 38th year of enjoying channel 5's wonderful gift to the community that gives us safe perspectives in the tampa bay earlier. thank you to channel 5 management and to all the staff to help us create this show each month. today, we have with us two experts on the importance of sharing and the rewards of giving after this brief break. please read join us for an interesting conversation on

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welcome to mosaic. we are here with two people from the archdiocese of san francisco who do important work in its mission. let me introduce them on my

left is florian romero, who is the director of the stewardship at the archdiocese of san francisco. and to her left is rod -- he is the director of development. these departments work together and collaborate at the deep basis of what work they do is that important thing called money. they both have to deal with that but they also deal with developing the relationships that can sustain and support the catholic mission. this means individual relationships. rod, you are the director of development. maybe you can define what that means. >> at its core, really, development is about relationships, as you kind of touched on. i do find it as creating and deepening relationships between persons in a particular organization. fundraising is a little part of it. fundraising is a derivative by

look at it as giving people who have a relationship the opportunity to invest in something about which they care quite deeply. >> that sounds great. how long have you been with the archdiocese? >> about seven months. i started in early june of 2017. >> i know you have been a great presence around the office. he visited every parish in the archdiocese? >> i did, virtually every parish. i was born and raised and went to school and the archdiocese. i was born in pacifica and grew up in pacifica and am a meter of st. peters. now i live in st. gregory's. it was a treat for me, really, to be on the other side and visit all these parishes in our three counties that i have heard so much about. it was a fabulous experience and very educational from my standpoint and a wonderful experience.

>> and it modeled what your principal is. you do not sit in the office. you build relationships. tell us about what you saw. >> it was very interesting. it was a joy and honor to be in a position to advocate the ministries of the archdiocese and then learning about the parishes. there were three things that emerged. one was i heard a lot from the pastors and the office staff about how we could better serve and assisted them in development and the office as a whole. i also learned about better ways in which we can communicate the needs of the archdiocese, most notably regarding appeals and how we can communicate what it was getting to. and then most significantly, i was overwhelmed by all the wondrous good, good works that go on in all of our parishes. having been born and raised, as

i said, in the archdiocese, i did not know all the wonderful, wonderful things that go on in terms of outreach. it is overwhelmingly impressive. >> florian, you have a much longer history. >> yes, i -- this is my 10th year working for the archdiocese of san francisco. i originally worked -- i am with the office of development and i am there halftime and then halftime i am with stewardship. you have a fairly new initiative. you have an exotic background. ron is a local boy. where are you from? >> i was born and raised in the philippines and i moved to america when i was 23 years old, and that is about a couple -- >> a couple of years ago. >> no, a number of years, yes. i moved state to state until the past 20 years. my husband was assigned to

northern california and this is where we hope to stay forever. >> i know you've had an career in advertising and business management and are now working for stewardship. can you define what that is? >> stewardship is actually a spiritual transformation and we focus on scriptures and -- it is more about realizing or accepting that everything we have in our lives is actually a gift from god and out of gratitude, we give back to god. it is our responsibility or our response to god's generosity. >> once you hear the word, it is an unusual word. i do not know if most catholics are aware of it, but you think about the new testament. jesus frequently talked about the stewards. you understood those they did

the wrong thing. there is a clear mission -- jesus says stewards of god's gift not as necessarily owners and disposers. it does not end with us. >> exactly, even in the book of genesis, added and eve, they were stewards of the earth. >> from the beginning. >> you are supposed to manage this and give it back with returns. that is out of your gratitude and out of love. that is the response to the gift that was given -- >> we will get into details but i found in the catholic catechism some information about this notion of stewardship. i wanted to read it to you. jesus says love your neighbor as yourself. it says here the catholic catechism, the right of private property, it does not do away with the original gift -- the universal destinations of goods remains primordial. the ownership of any property

makes the owner a steward of providence. they have to make it fruitful and communicate its benefits to others. that is very interesting. now, a little bit about what stewardship is for a diocese. >> we have just started stewardship in our diocese in 2016. we actually have six that have converted to stewardship. stewardship is a way of life. it is not a program and that is why we say it is a conversion. it is a conversion of mines and a spiritual mindset of people. we have, right now, six parishes that we work with. originally, we were working with a consultant and now we have our own consultant. it is a smaller program that we run, which i run with a

moderator. we run this program with others. >> okay, we will find out more about the principles and practices of stewardship. we will take a break. after this brief break, please re-join us and we will find out more about stewardship and the universal destination of human goods.

welcome back to mosaic. we are talking with florian romero, the director of -- i am sorry, the director of stewardship and then also rod linhares, the director of development at the archdiocese. they work in tandem. you mentioned you had gone to

a lot of the parishes. florian is talking about stewardship as a way of life and sharing your gifts with others. you have seen some examples of that? >> i have seen some extremely vivid examples. it has been really inspiring to me. a couple of note -- i was not aware of any of these prior to my little journeys. they feed a 700 people every six weeks. st. charles in san carlos, for 25 years, they have gone to mexico and build homes. st. rita, we have gone to guatemala and worked with the people. there are tutoring programs involved with persons in moran city. it is a very, very vivid and vibrant demonstration of people sharing their time and talents and it was inspiring to me and i think it is a great source of

pride for all of us. >> florian, you mentioned this stewardship initiative is somewhat new. the concept seems new to me but you have this historical model of how this works. >> yes, there is a model -- it is from wichita, kansas. they have been doing this for the last 40 years. since 2015, they sent three of us to see what this stewardship way of life is all about and we were inspired when we came back because we observed a parish where they have people standing only in church and it is filled with people all the way to the back of the building. they have 17 parishes that have 24/7 adoration's. they also have what we have here but on a bigger scale, with a large diner that feed the 2500 people dinner every

single day of the year and that is run by 70 volunteers any given day. it is very high. they have 2000 volunteers and one parish. they are really very engaged and the parishioners are very engaged in the parish and you go into a parish and they will come to you and say, hey, you are new. what is your name? can we invite you to lunch? all of a sudden, you have this sense of attachment to the parish. living their life as catholics, it is -- going to church is not , to them, and obligation. it is their way of life. it seems to be part of their dna. >> good habits we are learning. and continued. it sounds like -- you talked

about giving people relationships in which they can invest themselves. it also sounds like -- there is money involved in these good works that are being done. i am wondering how money shows up in the picture of stewardship. is it people tithing and so on? i am guessing they are not a rigid diocese with a lot of big givers. >> there are three focuses. one, the core of stewardship is being grateful. when you are grateful, what do you do? you share. you share your time and you build relationships with god by praying. that is sharing your time. when you type, you are -- it is like 10% of your time with a prayer and relationships. then you share your talents by

volunteering. when you are grateful, you are sharing what you have financially. you cannot help but share something that is a part of you, which is your church. you are generously giving to the church and in wichita, they tithe 10%. they give 10% of their income to the church and the church gives 10% of their income to the diocese. the diocese shares at 10% of their income to a larger church. >> you have this ground-level participation and they fund their school systems without having to charge tuition. lae t investment, this commitment. it

sounds wonderful and this is something we want to be trying to establish in the archdiocese of san francisco. >> that is something we would like to achieve but that is not something we expect to happen overnight. some of our stewardship parishes are saying we will offer free faithful mission classes. just giving back to the community. we are going to support this for the children because we know when the children -- that is where we get -- they are formed at a young age and that is why, in wichita, they have about 58 seminarians in the population of 400,000 catholics. >> as rod was pointing out, the vibrancy and the generosity of these parishes is remarkable and

if you tune into that and, as you said, convert to a stewardship model, things could be greater than they are. you see a lot of generosity and i think you have told me the feeling of satisfaction about being part of a community that knows it is generous and being useful. that is what i heard from you. >> there is such a great sense of pride among the parishioners as they are a part of something that is kind of bigger than their community, if you will. that is something that i have learned as i have gone throughout the archdiocese and spoken to her with persons at certain parishes, hearing about what goes on at their brethren parishes, beyond what they do, and it really infuses all of us and all of them with that sense of pride and being part of something that is grander and bigger and doing good. >> amen. we will take a short break and talk more about development, stewardship, and how to make it all work.

and welcome back to mosaic. we are finishing a conversation with florian romero and rod

linhares from the archdiocese of san francisco. you talked about important new initiatives. florian, you are in stewardship and it is a conversion to a stewardship way of life. i think catholics tend to think they are already converted but there is more conversion to be done. rod, you are talking about being new at the job and making new relationships and showing opportunities for investment in true spiritual and physical value. maybe you can tell us, rod, about what your current initiatives are and how people can get involved. >> there are a couple of things. the circle is something that began about 18 months ago and it is an entity in which persons can give money to projects and initiatives that are set for by the archbishops that they deem to be priorities . there are things like giving to seminarians at the hispanic school of leadership. stewardship is another one.

and then he is looking at things like and assistance fund for deacons and things like that, along as a seminary. it will be a blend between current needs and what he projects to be a future desire. >> we noticed they have their newsletter. they have interesting stories from members of the circle. on the topic of satisfaction in giving, stories are about being the giver. >> they enjoy being with their fellow circle members. they enjoy the camaraderie and the sense of spirituality. it has been of fulfilling experience. we have learned from the members of the circle. the other priority is the archdiocese of annual appeal, which kicked off two weeks ago. it has a number of other priorities that i'm sure many of the parishioners might be

familiar with but there is one story i really enjoy telling because i think it crystallizes the tremendous benefits of the appeal. some of the money from last year's appeal went to the maker's space initiative, which brings science and technology to a life in the grammar school. we went down to good shepherd in pacifica to observe this in action. i was in a class of fourth graders, 9-year-olds and 10- year-olds, and they were making plastic robots. they were entrance. i am asking them do you like this class? they were saying yes, yes. i asked this little boy do you like it? he said it was the most absurd question -- this is way better than school. i think that just encapsulated perfectly the success of that program, when it comes to bringing science to life. that is where the archdiocese of appeal money goes. >> that is a nice little example. florian, on your initiative, your introducing concepts and

practices. what can people do to learn more? >> we have seminaries and workshops that are scheduled for the month of february and we would like to invite people to come. we have one in english -- we have spanish and english. the one on english is called living a graceful and generous life. if they would like to know more about stewardship or the workshop, they could give me a call. my number is 415-614-5537. i will give them all the information about the workshop and more details will be available on the website. >> i wondered if people were to get the list of stewardship paris ship's -- could they get the house names? >> yes, we are working on the website. the list will be there but, again, it is in south san

francisco. there is st. augustine. we have holy name and of the sea. >> just to finish up, ron, your website is rich with details for those that want to know about what development is and all about what giving is and ways in which they can give. you mentioned the appeal but you have planned giving, requests, and complete information as to how you can contribute. if you come to the website and you want to find florian or rod, you are looking for development and stewardship. there is a button that says giving. as we have established today, i think that button should also say receiving because the rewards of that kind of giving

are huge, as you are pointing out. thank you so much for being here and sharing things with us. please do visit the archdiocese to find out all there is to know about development and stewardship. thank you for being with us on mosaic.

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