captioning sponsored by cbs brennan in washington, this week on "face the nation," president biden's massive spending plan nears the fence line as we inch toward the next leg of the marathon to vaccinate vulnerable americans. relief may be in sight. vaccines for 28 million elementary-aged children in this country could become available in a matter of days. plus a promise of a big expansion in available boosters shots. >> more than 120 million americans will become eligible for a booster. with former fpped commissioner dr. scott gottlieb. then, newly released facebook

documents charge the explosion of misinformation that may have helped fuel the mayhem on january 6. we'll talk with the chairman of the top committee charged with investigating, mississippi democrat, bennie thompson. we'll also talk about the tough compromises democrats have to consider in order to make a deal. and we'll hear from the chief economist of the international monetary funds on how much those proposals could impact the u.s.-playinged economy. and almost two months after the last american soldier left afghanistan, questions about our chaotic departure linger. ambassador zalmay khalilzad, who negotiated the u.s. withdrawal, under presidents trump and biden, joins us for his first television interview since resigning last week. it's all just ahead on facethe naings.

>> brennan: good morning, and welcome to "face the nation." we begin what may be a key week in washington as president biden tries to close in on a compromise version of his multitrillion-dollar social spending bill. at his dell warl home this morning, the president himself will directly negotiate with majority leader chuck schumer and joe manchin. meanwhile, the pandemic looms large as community transmission remains high across the country, and vaccine mandates continue to be a point of contention. mark strassmann reports from atlanta. >> we will not comply! >> reporter: while anti-vax diehards shake their fists, most vaccinated americans shake their heads. in chicago, covid america's latest flashpoint-- vaccine mandates-- fans the flames. noncompliant firefighters have sued the city.

>> you do not want to have in your personnel history the fact that you refuse an order from your chain of command. >> reporter: tell that tirsthot bys eir last day. an alarm bell for 3500 unvaccinated firefighters and 15,000 cops. >> i'm worried about their jobs, but i'm also worried for the new york city residents. >> reporter: and news for 120 million vaccinated americans worried about waning protection against the virus: they suddenly have booster options galore. pick from all three approved vaccines. >> f.d.a.'s authorizations and c.d.c.'s recommendations now allow for this type of mix and match. >> reporter: here's who's eligible for a bofter: for moderna and pfizer recipients, after six months, adult overs 65. of and adults 18 and older with

underlying medical issues or living and working in high-risk situations. with j&j, it's simpler: anyone 18 and older, at least two months after the first shot. >> for all three vaccines, this is perfectly fine. >> reporter: but covid keeps infecting our sup breakdown, one more force behind all those empty shelfs will. another complication: tens of thousands of unvaccinated employees could be fired two weeks before christmas. they're employees of federal contractors facing a december 8 vaccination deadline accept the by president biden. small wonder many businesses talk about playing "hunger games": tributes fighting for supplies. >> we don't have any now but they're coming in supposedly tomorrow. >> reporter: for now, the mandates do not include getting a vaccine. if you want one, the c.d.c. says bring your vaccination card and

you can go to any vaccine location. margaret. >> brennan: mark strassmann, thank you. covid cases around the world have leveled off but remain high, averaging just under half a million new cases per day. elizabeth palmer has the latest from london. >> reporter: good morning. this month, we are watching a full-blown covid crisis in eastern europe. romania has one of the highest death rates on earth. in october, the virus has been killing an average of one person every five minutes. latvia has gone back into complete lockdown with a curfew that has police patrolling the streets to make sure anyone out at night is an essential worker with permission. russia, the giant of the region, is seeing a record number of deaths day after day. in the provincial city, burials have doubled and with winter looming, hospitals are struggling. even in the capital moscow,

there is alarm. president putin announced a week of what he called "nonworking days." they start at the end of this month. the problem clear across eastern europe iscination rates. the soviet past followed by decades of poor and corrupt government means no one trusts authority, with lethal consequences. even now, less than a third of russians are fully vaccinated. here in the u.k., the prime minister says he's not contemplating another lockdown. >> we see absolutely nothing to indicate that that is-- that's on the cards. >> reporter: even though there were more than 50,000 new covid cases last thursday alone. but so far, deaths are stable and low. british authorities are also keeping a close eye on a subvariant of the delta strain, ay4.2. it doesn't look as if it's more

virtualant but maybe more contagious. >> brennan: we're joined by former f.d.a. comho also serves on the aboard of pfizer. we're headed into respiratory virus season, is this new version, this new delta variant, something that has you concerned? >> look i don't think this is enough to really change the trajectory of the direction we're heading in. we're much closer to the end of the delta wave than the beginning. south looks very good, and in the middlest with, we see cases starting to decline. there's a pickup of cases in the great lakes region and parts of new england so that's concerning. i think as we get to thanksgiving, and maybe shortly thereafter we're going to be on the downswing across the whole country. you have seen cases comes down all across the country. this new variant, we think it could be more contagious. i don't think it's enough to change the overall trajectory. my lament is that we're not better at figuring out these questions. i mean, we should have an answer

to the question of just what the characteristics of this new variant are and what kind of risk it poses. >> brennan: that's something you have been saying throughout the pandemic and it sounds like you're saying we haven't gotten better. >> we don't have a cooperated system am globally. we're dependent on certain academic researchers on this kind of analysis. the u.k. is very good but we don't have good follow-um in terms of the epideem looj colwork to find out if it's spreading more aggressively. this one appears to be slightly more contagious, the vaccine should be protected. people and infected with delta should probably be protected against this new variant. i don't think it will be a new variant that sweeps across the globe and we're back at square one here. i think this is something that will probably push us in the direction of eventually reformalating our vaccines, because what we're seeing is the new mutations are occurring within that delta lineage. >> brennan: so you said the other day there are two

remaining pockets of vulnerable: the very young and the very sick. so let's start with the compromise. this week, we lost the former secretary of state colin powell. he was battling multiple myeloma. his family said he succumbed to qostled, though he had been vaccinated. what is the lesson there? >> look, i don't think anyone should die from qostled now. this is an avoidable death. people who have intact immune systems have vaccines available. there are two pockets of vurkt, young children, who we will eventually be able to vaccinate, and people who are immune compromised. because they're organ transplant patients or on chemotherapy. we could be giving them regular infusions, probably monthly infusions to protect them through the delta waves. the drugs are being usinged off label. there is an emergency use authorization with the f.d.a. right now. i was an adult cancer patient at

one point undergoing chemotherapy. if i was in that position right now, i would be wanting to use these drugs on a regular basis to protect me. these patients have become prisoners in their home because they know how vulnerable they are. we know there are people who will not respond well to the vaccines. we can be protecting them. >> brennan: the former secretary was not given that antibody treatment when he became sick. you are saying as a preventive measure, people should ask their doctors about this. >> it's happening. these drugs are being used on a regular basis as a prophylaxis, not postexposure prophylaxis, but for people who are immune incompetent, who can't mount a protection. the drugs can be used in that way. regeneron is making them available under a compassionate use basis. there is an application before the f.d.a., but we should be precting these livesfragi les.

we're not making greatest enough use of those tools. >> brennan: you're saying november 4 is the soonest we could see vaccinations available for 5-11-year-olds. what do you think of the administration's rollout plans they detailed this week? >> the effort has been to push the vaccine for 5-11 into pediatricians' offices. pfizer, the company i'm on a board of is, developing a tray that's 10 vials, 100 doses. that's small enough any small- to medium-sized pediatrician office can deliver it. >> brennan: in a regular refrigerator. >> it can be stored in a regular refrigerator for 10 weeks. it was packaged that way. the idea is to get it into pediatricians' offices. we know getting children vaccinated is a more consultitative endeavor. you want the vaccine delivered at those sites. you don't want children to have to go to mass vaccination sites or even a pharmacy. the administration has been behind that. the company has been behind

that. that's been the plan all along. once-- if pfizer does get the authorization on tuesday from f.d.a., even before the c.d.c. votes on this, on november 2 and 3, they'll start to ship it into the supply chain. so it will be available for use once there's hopefully a positive vote from c.d.c. so it could be as early as november 4 and 5 that you can go into some locations and get your child vaccinated. >> brennan: and toddlers and the smallest children still have to wait. i want to ask you to clarify the boosters. and the information we received this week. because it's a little confusing for people. when will the general population be able to get a boost? and with this authorization to mix and match, what should people go out and do? where do they begin asking questions? >> i think the guidance from c.d.c. that's that's going to come out, i think it's going to recommend you sticking with the vaccine you have unless you have a compelling reason not to. and there are certain patients who might want to switch vaccines, but i think by and large, most people are going to prefer the vaccine they have or

that's going to be the general recommendation that comes out of c.d.c. they didn't issue that guidance yet inspect terms of the total general population, the criteria for who is eligible for a booster is fairly broad. and it was purposely broad. and the administration sent a signal to the farmalcies that they wanted this to be a frictionless process. i think they want these generally available to people who deem themselves to be at sufficient risk of contracting covid or spreading covid that they could benefit from a booster. >> brennan: dr. gottlieb always good to have you on the show and agreement to have you in person. we'll be back in a moment. ♪ kinda pat your feet ♪ ♪ it's all right ♪ ♪ have a good time 'cause it's all right ♪ ♪ oh, it's all right ♪

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ent hatoe tuition-free community college and cut paid leave from 12 down to four weeks' time? >> well, you know, i'm a realist in the process of making legislation. it's the art of compromise. sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. but it's the ultimate product at the end. i know what we have tend is good for america. and if we don't get everything in this package, we'll have another opportunity. >> brennan: well, we will watch for those details as they come out, perhaps in the days and week ahead. i want to ask you about january 6 and the work you're doing. in the past 24 hours, cbs news and other organizations have reviewed internal facebook documents that show the company researched and identifieded ways to limited the spread of false news reports leading up to january 6. some groups, though, still use that platform to organize ahead

of the violence. how culpable do you think these social media giant, specifically facebook, are as to the violence that happened? >> well, our committee identified facebook and some other platforms as important to our investigation. we are in the process of negotiating with facebook and those other platforms to get certain information. but it's clear that the january 6 organization used them as an organizing tool to the extent that we can identify what really happened. that's the committee's charge from the house of representatives. we will do it. but at this point, facebook is working with us to provide the necessary information we requested. at that point, staff and the committee will review that information. and if it's consistent with some

of the things that we are hearing coming from other areas, then, obviously, it's a problem. but at this point, we are not ready to make a decision one way or the other on facebook's role. >> brennan: you said this week you want to know who financed the march, who chartered the buss, who chartered the airplanes that day. do you have any of the questions regarding the finances yet? >> yes, we do. we have one of the teams on the committee whose sole purpose is to look at the financing of january 6, the people who spent money-- whether it's their money or other folks' money-- it really doesn't matter. but we want that to go to the work product of the committee. we think the potential for commingling restricted phones for this purpose might be there. but obviously we'll look at it.

it's just interesting to note that a lot of people came to washington by bus, by plane, by chartered vehicles. they stayed in hotels, motels-- all of that. somebody had to pay for it. and we want to look at whether or not the paying for that participation was legal and whether or not it contributed to what occurred on january 6. >> brennan: when will you subpoena president trump himself? have you seen any-- any direct line to him? >> well, let me say that nobody's off limits. we will be on an ongoing basis issuing subpoenas to various individuals around the country. if we have enough evidence. and, obviously, we are pursuing evidence. but if the evidence leads to

former president trump or anyone else, the committee is not resonant in pushing back on it. we will go forward with it. so, you know, it's-- it's an investigation. we're not trying to get ahead of the investigation. we'll follow the facts and circumstances as thvy present themselves. >> brennan: you know, president biden said a few days ago that the attack on the capitol was about racism. listen to this: >> violent, deadly insurrection on the capitol nine months ago was about white supremacy, in my view. >> brennan: has your investigation shown that to be true? >> well, clearly, there are some individuals who identify with "stop the steal" movement, that applauded the radical right-wing elements in this country. it's clear those elements would love to deny people of color their rights in this democracy.

so the president, in his opinion, sees it. what the committee is tasked with is looking at the facts and circumstances that made it happen. i can assure you, if the facts present what the president is saying, we won't be hesitant in making it parent of our report. but i think the public saw for themselves, when they saw confederate flags, when they saw anti-semitic symbols being displayed, those things clearly represent a philosophy that is antidemocratic and racist. >> brennan: i'd like viewers tolisten to a portion of steve bannon's podcast from the day before that riot. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it's going to be moving. it's going to be quick. and all i can say is strap in. the war room, a posse, you have made this happen, and tomorrow >> brennan: how premeditated

was this attack? >> well, there's no question. clearly, the direction of the committee is to look at that premeditation to make sure that we identify. but the worst-kept secret in america is that donald trump invited individuals to come to washington on january 6. he said all hell would break loose. steve bannon was part of the conversation and the promotion of january 6, the very podcast you-- we just listened to talks about it. steve bannon was in the war r room, and he was in the willet hotel doing a lot of things. so that's why we subpoenaed him. that's why we felt it was important for the committee- >> brennan: understood. >> and the staff to depose him. >> brennan: okay. >> but as you say, he refused to participate. >> brennan: understood. chairman, thank you for your time today. we'll be back with a lot more

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>> brennan: we turn now to the y.vid impact on the glo e joy ta g chief nomist at the international monetary fund and the first woman to hold that role. gita, good morning to you. >> hi, margaret. pleasure to join you. >> brennan: i'm so glad you did. let's start with the largest economy in the world, the united states. the i.m.f. said previously any change in the size of the spending deal president biden was putting together could have an impact on global growth. it's been shaved down from that original $4 trillion number. what will the impact be? >> margaret, to answer that question, we will need to know what the ultimate package looks like. because the original package, which was slightly over $4 trillion, the combined package of the infrastructure bill, and then the human infrastructure bill, the two of them were about slightly over $4 trillion.

and h rmeluding taxes.us, and now the question is what happens in this new package? because if you're going to cut back spending and you also scale back tax increases, then the effect could be somewhat similar in terms of the net effect. but, again, we won't know until we actually know the full details of the package. >> brennan: we know at least paid leave provisions are being trimmed from 12 weeks down to four. i know you have been looking at the impact, specifically on women who are the caregivers here and are so central to the recovery. what does that do? >> we've been in support of the paid parental leave, and we think 12 weeks is a reasonable time horizon of which to provide that kind of leave that would be consistent with the standards in other o.e.c.d. countries. it's what the federal government currently has. and in this crisis, what we have

seen is both, you know, what they call "the she-session and the "mom-session, "the fact we have seen women much harder hit in other parts of the world, because they work in contact-intensive sectors that have been harder hit, but also because they end up being the main caregiver at home of children and of parents. having this kind of paid family leave will help bring back women much more quicker into the workforce. >> brennan: i want to pick up on that again on the other side of this commercial break so please stay with us.

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