is just ahead. please join us when our trumpet sounds again next sunday mor ♪♪ [trumpet] ♪♪. >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan, and today on "face the nation," u.s. officials warn that russia is planning to invade ukraine and soon. and the f.d.a. puts a pause on vaccines for the very youngest. president biden warned vladimir putin of the quote swift and severe cost facing russia if they attack ukraine and tells most americans to get out of there now. we'll have the latest news, plus white house national security advisor jake sullivan and adam kinzinger. as covid cases continue to plummet, it is blue-state governors leading the charge to lift some health restrictions. health officials say it is too soon. we'll talk to phil murphy

and former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb. finally, inflation jumps again, and the fed moves closer to raising interest rates to stabilize the economy. we'll check in with san francisco federal reserve president mary daly. it is all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪♪ >> brennan: good morning, and welcome to "face the nation." on this super bowl sunday. for many pandemic-weary americans, game day is a much-needed break, if only for a day. but we're now at the 11th hour of crisis and ukraine. diplomatic efforts to defuse a potential military conflict that possess the biggest threat to europe since world war ii involves not just the u.s. but our nato allies. president biden spoke with vladimir putin for an hour

yesterday, telling the russian president that an attack on ukraine would have a catastrophic impact and cause widespread human suffering. mr. biden also told him a diplomatic solutn s still possible. president biden plans to speak to ukraine's president zelensky later today. our imtiaz tyab reports from kyiv. >> reporter: ukraine's armed forces may be small compared to russia's, but they are mighty. president zelensky oversaw the exercises in crimea, a territory seized by vladimir putin eight years ago. the u.s. is now warning of an all-out invasion of ukraine, and says there is mounting evidence that russia is poised to attack again, this time with a multi-access assault, using ground troops, and even ballistic missiles. but zelensky says those dire warnings are doing more harm than good.

>> the best friend for enemies is in our country. and all of this information that helps others doesn't help us. >> reporter: as thousands took to the streets of kyiv call for peace, the u.s. quickly pulled military and other personnel out of the country, along with the u.k., canada, and australia, and nearly a dozen other nations following suit. russia's buildup in the region is only growing, with drill enabling belarus. in what is the largest military buildup on the the continent since the cold war. haunted by the chaotic scramble to evacuate from afghanistan, president biden has vowed he will not send troops to rescue

americans. the deep skepticism here in ukraine of an all-out war is dwarfed by russia's massive military buildup on its borders, as attempts to end this crisis with diplomacy intensify. margaret? >> brennan: imtiaz tyab, thank you. we're joined by national security correspondent david martin. good morning, david. good to have you here. what is the latest on the russian troop movement? >> about 30 russian war ships have gone live fire exercises in the black sea. if you plot the coordinates of those exercises, you will see the exercises cover virtually the entire southern coast of ukraine. meanwhile, you have those exercises with 30,000 russian troops going on in belarus, who's border is just an hour away from the ukrainian capital of kyiv. russia now has 80% of the

forces it would need to conduct an all-out invasion, and the rest are on their way. some of those troops that we have seen parked bumper to bumper in those assembly areas in satellite photos, they're starting to move out of the assembly areas, a little closer to the border, but not yet into what you would call an attack position. the u.s. has intelligence that putin has told his commanders to be ready to go on the 16th, which is wednesday. now, whether it all plays out according to that timetable remains to be seen, but we are clearly at crunch time. and up until now, we've been able to see what putin is doing, but haven't been able to know what he is thinking. he is about to have to declare himself. >> brennan: and this is

just incredibly high stakes. president biden has said he would not send in combat troops to ukraine. but if you look at that map, we have nato forces very close to russian forces. there is a high degree of miscalculation risk. >> reporter: the stakes in this are really incredibly high. i mean, you have the sovereignty of a country, ukraine. you have the solidity of an alliance, nato. but above everything else, yu have the threat of a war between two nuclear super powers: the u.s. and russia. and that has to be avoided at all costs. and, frankly, i think that is why putin has been so methodical in his buildup, in fact, maybe even telegraphing some of this punches so that the americans have plenty of time to get out of the way. because, you know, once

the shooting starts, unintended consequences set in. political pressures build. and nobody can guarantee where this is going to end. and if that wasn't dicey enough, putin has taken an annual nuclear exercise, usually run in the fall, and rescheduled it to run this month. and that exercise usually includes the firing of icbms -- the test firing of icbms and ballistic missiles. the last time he did that, reschedule that exercise, is when he annexed crimea. it is his way of saying ukraine is much more important to me thunder it thans to you. and if i have to, i'll resort to nuclear weapons. >> brennan: david thank you for clearly sketching out the stakes here. good to have you here. we go now to the white house national security

advisor jake sullivan. good morning to you, jake. >> good morning. twn present bidenere on cl and ru pside imir put thwereobrough lieve putin is going to take any of the diplomatic options you've given him? >> look, i'm not going to predict what vladimir putin is going to do. all i can do is make sure we're prepared to respond either way. if russia wants to continue engaging diplomatically to find a way forward to address their security concerns and our security concerns, we're prepared to do that. if russia decides instead to take military action against ukraine, we're prepared to respond. > brennan: but there is nothing that came out of yesterday's call? >> as far as we're concerned, the united states of america diplomacy is still open and available. but if russia chooses to move, we're prepared to respond. >> brennan: you said an attack by russia could happen as soon as this week. are you seeing russian toops move into tactical

positions? >> we have seen, over the course of the past 10 days, dramatic acceleration in the buildup of russian forces, and the disposition of those forces in such a way that they could launch a military action essentially at any time. they could do so this coming week. but, of course, it still awaits the go order. and so therefore we cannot predict the precise day or time they may take action. welwe also are watching that there is a pretext or a false flag operation to kick off the russian action, in which russian intelligence services conduct some kind of attack on russian proxy forces in eastern ukraine or on russian citizens and then blame it on the ukrainians. >> brennan: russian intelligence is already publicly claiming that things are happening in the east of ukraine, in tthe d doneskt region.

>> reporter: to your point, the russian media has been laying the ground work by trying to condition their there public that some kind of attack by ukraine is happening. despite the fact they have amassed more than 100,000 forces on the border of their neighbor, and they have done so not just on their own territory, but on the territory of belarus, which borders ukraine to the north. >> brennan: you said on friday in the white house briefing room that americans should get out in the nexo 48 hos, whiuts ust today. what are you telling americans who remain? should they go underground? is it too late to leave now? >> as long as commercial transport options are available, americans should take advantage of them. we had hoped, based on our

warnings, that americans would have gotten out by now. as long as the transport is available, they should move out by air or rail or road as rapidly at possible. because as i said also on friday, if there is military action, if there is a war between russia and ukraine, started by a russian invasion of ukraine, president biden is not intending to send in american forces to fight russia in that war. and americans who have the opportunity to get out now should avail themselves of it. >> brennan: if russia does carry out this invasion, you talked about the consequences with sanctions, but are you committed to funding, arming, helping, a ukrainian insurgency? >> what the president said is we will continue to support ukraine if an invasion happens. it is one of the three fundamental elements of our response: to continue

to support ukraine, second, impose severe and swift economic measures that go at russia's financial system and its defense industrial bas reinforce nato territory. reassure our alyce on the eastern flank. and defer russ■ia fro any action against nato allies to whom were have a sacred article five commitment to defend. we are going to carry out all of thoseions in the event russia moves forward. >> brennan: but at the same time, you have pretty close proximity between nato troops and russian troops. it is a miscalculation that is incredibly high at this moment? >> part of the reason we've been as transparent as we have about our exercises from the metropolitan up to the baltics -- the reason we've gone out publicly and laid out both what the

scope and p parameters are and what their purpose is to avoid mistake,s, o escalation. and end a very clear e rsia: w wlo territory, every inch of article five territory, and russia, we thioubluff on the part of vladimir putin? >> as i said on the top of your show, i can't get in the head of vladimir putin or predict exactly what he is going to do. the united states is prepared, our allies are concerned. >> brennan: i know afghanistan and ukraine couldn't be more different, but there is always a risk when you're fighting the last war instead of addressing what is happening now. these loud warnings about ukraine and the need to get out, is this because of how the white house

miscalculated the level of chaos around the evacuation of afghanistan. president biden said he wasn't warned, no one told me, and he rejected the findings of this army report pointing to errors? >> first of all, margaret, afghanistan plays into this in an important way. because the american people saw the united states deploy thousands of soldiers and then evacuate 124,000 people from kabul last august, there is total the possible there are some americans in ukraine thi obligation to indicate that is not what is going to happen. there is a difference between ending a 20-year war in afghanistan, and sending americans in to fight russian forces near the border in ukraine, which the president is not prepared to do. we are trying to dispel any notion that the united states is going to deploy

thousands of soldiers to evacuate americans. >> brennan: did you learn the lessons in afghanistan? are you applying them now? >> the president and i sitting here today do reject the reports in the "washington post" that the white house or the n.s.c. sought to slow down -- >> brennan: this was a version of an army report. >> from the president on down, it was the white house and the n.s.c. pushing military leaders and diplomats through the early days of august to say, should we begin the evacuation now? as soon as the minute our military officials and diplomats represented to the president to do so, literally that minute he ordered the evacuation. >> brennan: thank you, jake sullivan, for your time today. we'll be watching. good luce th" ll beck in at.sta.

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setes e nowdates, niraon and theg fast mark strassmann reports. >> repds, proof that covid resentment runs a continuous fever on all sides. >> they say the last mile of any trip is the most challenging, and that may be the case here. >> reporter: but for covid chroniclers, a moment. >> given the declining hospitalizations, that is why we feel confident to lift this. >> reporter: new york is on of the 10 blue states where governors announced some form of dropping the indoor mask mandates. seven of the 10 are dropping mask mandates in schools. >> i'm very excited. my children have had enough of this. i'm ready for normalcy to begin. >> reporter: but with covid reality always

clouds normalcy's return. >> we continue to recommend masking in areas of high and substantial transmission. that is much of the country right now in public indoor settings. >> reporter: for parents of young kids, another setback. the f.d.a. and pfizer's decision to delay a vaccine for kids five and under at least until april. millions of americans have another growing worry: america's startling inflation rate, 7.5%, the highest in 40 years. showing no signs of mercy until at least summer. >> i have noticed all of my fun money has gone to food. >> reporter: and for 2022, covid economic agitation social fractureing, a canadian judge's order: go home. many did, but police this morning began making

arrests and towing vehicles, until traffic flows again on the ambassador bridge, two countries will worry about their latest supply-chain headache. >> brennan: mark strassmann reporting from atlanta. we guy to former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb. doctor, i have to say, there was a lot of whiplash this week with the f.d.a. and the pfizer decision to hit the brakes on this vaccine for toddlers, for children ages four and younger. now we have to wait until april for a decision. what happened? >> doctor: yeah. there were no safety issues coming out of the data set. the issue here is the ability for the f.d.a. and for pfizer to clearly define a level of efficacy that the vaccine is delivering. what you have is a situation where the data set is continuing to evolve because we're still in the middle of this omicron wave of infection. there are still infections

accruing on the patients in the clinical trial, both those vaccinated and unvaccinated. so the data set is changing. there was additional data submitted to the f.d.a. late last week, on thursday and friday, that changed the f.d.a.'s perception of the absolute efficacy of the vaccine. given the fact that is changing and evolving, new data is accruing, it is hard for the f.d.a. to give its advisors a snapshot. so if they wait a little longer, they if administer the third dose in that clinical trial, they're not only going to have perhaps a better measure of effectiveness from this trial, but they'll have a very firm picture of what level effectiveness the vaccine is delivering. that is important for patients and pediatricians to make fully informed decisions. it is important to knows that the vaccine is safe, but it is important to know what the level of effectiveness is. >> brennan: well, it is whiplash in the meantime

as parents continue to wait. and we see in some areas of the country, like new jersey, states lifting their mask requirements in schools. so should parents of children under the age of five keep their kids masked in school? >> reporter: look, i think there are portions of the population that are going to be in a very difficult spot because they remain vulnerable. one portion of the population are young children. parents who work who are at risk of bringing the infections back to the home. and also people who are older will continue to be vulnerable. but we're clearly shifting from a compact where there was a shared sense of sacrifice across the population generally to take certain measures and mitigation, like wearing masks, like protecting congregate settings, to one where policy setters are shifting the burden on to individuals to try to protect themselves based on the risk of their environment. it is incumbent upon

policy-makers to give them the tools to do that, but there are pockets of society who don't have those, like young children who don't have vaccines. parents are going to have to remain vigilant if they're concerned about infection. but this is clearly a trend across the country. >> brennan: wal-mart, the world's largest retailer, they have decided to lift the mask mandates for vaccinated employees. have you this wave of democratic governors lifting mask mandates. but the c.d.c. and the president say it is too early. is this just another round of the c.d.c. being too slow or is everyone else moving too fast? >> doctor: the c.d.c. is setting the national syndrome. standard. clearly the northeast there is 20 cases per 100,000 people a day, but when you look at kentucky,

west virginia and tennessee, there are about 100 cases per 100,000 cases, so that is a pretty dense epidemic. so the c.d.c. has a problem setting a mass mandate. the c.d.c. will come out with guidance that is more specific to communities, and that is probably where they should have been all along. i think they're going to make that adaptation. because there is parts of the country where it is heading in a positive direction where they could start lifting this mitigation. >> brennan: one other question before i let you go. you tweeted this week it is hard to believe in the middle of the hardest health crisis, the democrats are lifting their f.d.a. commissioner. >> doctor: i'm hoping dr. rob cayl ofoff will be

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