captioning sponsored by cbs i'm margaret brennan in washington. and this week on "face the nation," the future of a woman's right to choose an abortion is in jeopardy in many states across the country. as an unprecedented leak of a draft supreme court decision to overturn roe vs. wade creates the political equivalent of an earthquake. there is turmoil around the nation as republicans and democrats scramble to figure out what the political and the practical impact of new abortion restrictions could be. house speaker nancy pelosi will be with us. plus we'll hear from south carolina republican congresswoman nancy mace. then ukraine's military is on high alert this

weekend, bracing for more attacks, as vladimir putin plans to celebrate russia's annual victory day. ukraine's ambassador to the united states, oksana markarova, will be here with the latest. plus we'll hear from the c.e.o. of lockheed martin, jim taiclet, about what his company is doing to help provide weapons for the war effort in ukraine. and, finally, we'll take a look at the politics of this year's round of congressional redistricting fights with former obama attorney general eric holder. his new book is "our unfinished march." it is all just ahead on "face the nation." "face the nation." ♪♪ >> brennan: good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." it has been a turbulent week across the country as one of the most esteemed

institutions in our government, the supreme court, experienced something that happens all of the time here in washington: the leak of a document to the media. but this leak was explosive, not only does it draw into question the sanctity of the court, but if the draft opinion written by justice samuel alito holds, roe vs. wade may be overturned early this summer. currently, abortion access is federally protected up to the point of viability. if overturned, abortion could become illegal or significantly restricted in 23 states. republicans have been reserved in their reaction, but democrats are furious. and we go now to the top democrat in congress, house speaker nancy pelosi, who joins us this mother's day from san francisco. happy mother's day to you, madam speaker. >> thank you. happy mother's day to you, marrying. >> brennan: thank you. before we get to abortion, we had the surprise visit on mother's day by the

first lady, dr. jill biden, to ukraine. last sunday you were in kyiv meeting with ukraine's president. how quickly can congress deliver this $33 billion in aid that has been promised? >> i think we will be able to do it as quickly as possible. we have great bipartisanship in terms of our support for the fight for democracy that the people of ukraine are making. we have respect for the strategy of the president of ukraine, and we have recognition of the need for weapons -- more weapons, more sanctions, more economic assistance, and more humanitarian assistance. i was very proud to be there with my colleagues to talk about those veryk> brennan: you think you can get that done before the end of the month? >> i think we have to. i think we have to.

the specificity with which we discussed these matters with the president, the president of ukraine, the connection that we have with the ambassador, who you will have on this show later -- we're very current on the needs and the urgency. and, again, we will have bipartisanship as we go forward with it. >> brennan: okay. madam speaker, i want to talk to you, of course, about abortion. california's governor, gavin newsom, said democrats have failed to target republicans on this issue. here is what he had to say. >> where is the democratic party? where is the party? why aren't we calling this out? this is a concerted, coordinated effort, and yes -- they're winning. >> brennan: why would pro-abortion rights democrats outmaneuvered? >> i have no idea. the fact is we have been fighting for a woman's right to choose.

and that is to choose. we are fighting against republicans in the congress constantly because the fact is they're not inanti-woman's right to choose in terms of terminating a pregnancy, but in terms of access to contraception and family planning and the rest, both domestically and globally. this is a constant fight we've had for generations -- decades, i should say, in my case, in the congress. and the -- we had been bipartisan early on, support for a woman's right to choose, until the politics have changed. and that's what happened to the court. the science hasn't changed. but the court changed, and therefore they're deciding that it should be different. i have no idea why anybody would make that statement unless they were unaware of the fight that has been going on. >> brennan: you have been fighting for decades on this issue. but back when democrats held majorities in 2009, when you were speaker,

president obama was asked about roe vs. wade and said abortion is a moral and ethical issue and, quote, "not the highest legislative priority." do you think it was a mistake for him, for other presidents not to push harder when the democrats had the majority? >> if i may, the focus we have right now is an urgent one in order to try to improve -- try to improve -- we're calling it a fake or draft decision -- whatever it is -- bs a waste of time. the fact is in '09 we did not have a pro-choice democratic. i had to fight against some of the people who did not want to pass the affordable care act because they were afraid it might enable more freedom of choice. right now we do have a pro-choice democratic congress and we passed the

law months ago -- >> brennan: you did in the house in september. >> it has been a while, with a number of votes. >> brennan: but the votes aren't there in the senate. >> well, the senate -- you'll have to talk to the senate about the senate. but i do think that it puts an urgency on what is happening in the election. one or two more senators could sweep back the filibuster rule for this purpose. and then a woman would have the right to choose. this is about something so serious and so personal and so disrespectful of women. here we are on mother's day, a week after the court has slapped women in the face in terms of disrespect for their judgment about the size and timing of their families. so the fact is, let's keep our eye on the ball. the ball is in the court. those justices, one of them at least, said over and over again that

precedence has been established again and again on roe vs. wade. so this decision is about being anti-precedent and anti-privacy, and has furious ramifications as we go down this path. it has to be softened. i don't think there is a good outcome, but there is a better outcome as far as this is concerned. again, let's be prayerful about this. this is about respect for privacy. what's next? what's next, marriage equality? >> brennan: do you need to write bills to en shine enshe those things, birth control access -- the things you think might be next, do you think you need to legislate them if you think the court may overturn them? >> what is interesting, margaret, about this, for

decades i've been trying to say to my republican friends and women care about a woman's right to choose, that you can't do that -- you've got to weigh in with your own party on this. barbara bush early on -- republicans were very much about family planning and respect for women. so the thing is that most people always thought that this debate in the congress was about the termination of a pregnancy. but it wasn't. my republican colleagues have said to me on occasion, we're not for any family planning domestically or globally. because i was trying to get them to support us on some global family planning issues. we're not for any of it. and most people don't know that. and we don't want to be -- this is a fact. this is a fact. that's what they believe. >> brennan: but given the urgency with which you're speaking, the

reproductive choice act, to abortion rights republicans in the senate, susan collins and lisa murkowski put that forward, but when you do have republicans interested in working together, is that strategic mistake? you say this is an emergency? >> it depends on what the legislation is and what the impact that it has on women's lives. enshrinement of roe vs. wade into the law is a in order to protect a woman's right to choose. i don't know why they say they're for that and can't be for this legislation. should we all have a discussion and find our common ground? always. always. either for the enshrinement of roe vs. wade or you're not. it is the law of the land for nearly 50 years. the precedence of it has been reaffirmed, what, 14 times?

the republicans were very clear when they had a presidential campaign, that campaign was to elect a president who would appoint judges who would overturn roe vs. wade. one more point in that regard: mitch mcconnell pulled back the filibuster rule in order to have those justices confirmed by not needing 60 votes. this is a political decision on the part of this party. the rule of law should be respected, and women should be respected to make their own judgments with their family, their doctor, their god. >> brennan: speaker pelosi, thank you for your time this morning. "face the nation" will be back in a minute. stay with us. eyes on the ball baby. digital tools so impressive, you just can't stop. what would you like the power to do? can a company make the planet a better place? at walmart, we're pursuing 100% renewable energy

in our operations. and aiming to protect millions of acres of land. so we can all live better. >> brennan: the c.i.a. director said yesterday that russian president vladimir putin is doubling down on his invasion of ukraine and does not believe he can afford to lose. violence is now escalating in the east.

cbs news senior foreign correspondent charlie d'agata is in ukraine. >> reporter: the ukrainian government blames russian forces of bombing a school where dozens of people were taking shelter in luhanz. this is some of the destruction left behind after a rocat struck several residential neighborhoods. amid the ruins, everywhere is evidence of ordinary lives violently interrupted. a woman's shoe, children's toys scattered on the ground, a favorite jacket now hanging from a tree. a few miles further east, in luhansk, emergency crew search for survivors, where ukrainian authorities say 90 people were taking shelter. they wanted all elder women and children to escape, as many as 2,000

ukrainian forces remain, some medics, in badly wounded, some still fighting to the end. we traveled to the battered village of belluca, around 100 miles north of mariupol, where 10 russian battalion groups have already been redeployed. u.s. and ukrainian intelligenc says those russians are now amassing on the outskirts of this town, and clearly have come under artillery attack, the explosions are ringing out now. we found arena, her neighbor in the ruins of their homes. all around, shredded metal, shattered windows, belongings blown out of bedrooms and on to branches. can you describe what happened?[speaking foreign language] >> reporter: i was just sitting in the corridor when the explosions happened, she said, covering my ears and praying.

the explosions deafened me. oh, my gosh, she says. that happened a lot?[speaking fn language] >> reporter: there is no water or electricity. she is desperate to flee but said she can't leave her bed-ridden husband behind. i just want peace to come to this land, she said. i don't want anymore war and anger. that village is right on the path of russia's main advance from the south. here cramatorsk is on the firing line from the north. the russian strategy is to close that gap and surround tens of thousands of ukrainian troops. margaret? >> brennan: cbs news has learned that the biden administration is sending a small group of american diplomats, including the

acting ambassador to the u.s. embassy in kyiv to counter russia's vehicle day celebrations. they tell cbs the embassy hopes to resume operations and raise the american flag there in the coming weeks. we turn to the ukrainian ambassador to the united states, oksana markarova. good morning. >> good morning, and happy mother's day to you. >> brennan: and happy mother's day to you and all of the mothers out there. president zelenskyy says he will speak to president biden and other world leaders this morning. what do you expect? >> thank you. as we celebrate the 77th anniversary of the end of world war ii, it is crucial we do everything to stop the russian war started in europe again. so the presidents will raise everything we have been discussing during this past 73 days: more military support, more sanctions, more financial support to ukraine.

we count on all of our friends and allies to help us with everything so we can stop russia while it is still in ukraine. >> brennan: president putin is expected to make a speech tomorrow in red square. it is not clear exactly what he is going to announce. but the c.i.a. director said yesterday putin is doubling down. what exactly are you preparing for? >> well, we though that there are no red lines for the russia russia in moscow. so we're preparing for everything. they said they were not going to attack us, and they did. they said they wouldn't take the crimea, and they did. and they said there are no civilians, and yet they did. they raped and tortured them. we can count that putin and imperialistic russia will do everything they can forcibly try to do. the question is: are we all prepared, the civilized world, to do

everything possible to defend our democracy and freedom? and ukraine has showed for the past 74 days that we bravely defend those values and defend our homes. >> brennan: there is some speculation that putin could officially acknowledge the country is at war and then start conscripting shoulders, scripting soldiers andstart buit offensive in the east? >> that is the first time putin will tell the truth, that it is war. i hope it will be evident to all russians what they're doing in ukraine. it is an aggressive war, they attacked a neighboring country, a peaceful country. and the question is: are they prepared to have more tens of thousands die in ukraine for no reason at all? >> brennan: the u.s. said a few days ago that russia is planning sham elections and they're going to try to annex parts of your country

donetsk, luhansk in the east, and also kherson. they're renaming schools russia ccu wateaching does dismantling this part of your country actually do? if you want to goa get to a peace negotiation, they are already swallowing parts of your country. >> this is part of their m.o. we saw it in crimea. so they try to create the sham elections. they cannot find enough ukrainians to participate in them, as we saw in kherson and other places. we will never recognize it. the whole world will never recognize it. and we will do everything on the battlefield, and also diploma diplomatically to restore our democracy. >> brennan: so the world

will never recognize it? >> ukraine has to be whole within the ynlly internationally recognized borders. >> brennan: so the sanctions would stay on, is another way to say that. >> absolutely. >> brennan: we are seeing these reports out of mariupol that there were some successful evacuations. it is just a dire humanitarian situation there. can you tell us what is happening on the ground? who is left there? >> our brave defenders, a a lot of wounded and a lot of doctors are still there. our president has done everything possible to evacuate the civilians. we have to remember that 95% of mariupol is destroyed. that tens of thousands of civilians died in mariupol, were killed by russians. more mariupol citizens were killed by russians in two months than by nazis during two years of nazi

occupation in -- during the world war ii. so we are calling on everyone to do everything forcible to get our wounded soldiers, to get our people, to create all possible corridors in order to get our people still out, where they bravely defend the ukrainian flag. >> brennan: that's at that steel plant where they have website hold up with some civilians? >> yes. >> brennan: they have had -- who exactly is helping? what does that mean? is that on the ground help? just diplomatic? >> we know that the u.n. secretary-general has been in direct contact with our president, and also with others. there are a lot of diplomatic discussions with other states on that. so i think, you know, after the war we will be table to talk about all of the efforts that were

done. >> brennan: israel, for example? >> but on the ground it is our brave civilians. so many of our soldiers from this plant, who are trying to help civilians to get out, have been killed and wounded during this attempt, too. >> brennan: how significant is the intelligencering sharing intelligence-sharing that the u.s. is providing to ukraine? we hear a lot about the weapons, but what about the sharing of information? >> the sharing of information between ukraine and the west, with our friends and allies, is at the level we never had before, and we really appreciate it. >> brennan: ambassador, thank you for your time today. >> thank you. >> brennan: we'll be right back with a lot more "face the nation," so stay with us. lex supply chain to satisfy cravings from tokyo to toledo? so you partner with ibm consulting to bring together data and workflows so that every driver and merchandiser

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>> brennan: we want to turn back to the fight over abortion rights with republican congresswoman nancy mace of south

carolina. happy mother's day to you, congresswoman? >> thank you, and happy mother's day to all of the moms out there today. >> brennan: i want to have a conversation with you here, and then we'll continue it on the other side of this break. but first up, you are against abortion, but you believe that victims of rape and victims of incest should still have access to abortion. do you think those exceptions should be backed up with a federal law? >> well, absolutely. i'm someone who i am pro-life but i do support exceptions for rape. i'm a rape victim myself. and when you realize what has happened, the trauma, the emotional and physical trauma in a woman's life, she should make that decision with her doctor, in between her and her god. i worked to support those exceptions in my life, not only as a state lawmaker but with members of

congress. i told my rape story, and those stories are often missed and criticized, and women are attacked when they tell those stories. that is something i've talked about extensively throughout the years as well. >> brennan: i know you have, and i want to talk to you about those as well because there is so much nuance here. i want to take a quick commercial break and i want to ask you in more detail what kind of legislation you think could pass at the federal level, and what needs to el stath, yowebein a m you're probably thinking that these two are in some sort of lover's quarrel. no, no, no. they're both invested... in green energy. and also each other. digital tools so impressive, you just can't stop. what would you like the power to do?

>> brennan: we'll be right back with congresswoman nancy mace. so stay with us. ♪♪

this is the "cbs overnight news." good evening. jericka duncan is off. i'm jamie youkis. dr. biden crossed from slovakia into ukraine. she was the latest high profile american to cross into the brder. she met with irina zelenskyy. >> this war has been brutal and that the people of the united states stand with the