(male announcer) join dr. david jeremiah in his new series, "where do we go from here?" on the next episode of "turning point." right here on this station. captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan in washington, and this week on "face the nation," inflation rises and so does the risk of recession. plus more evidence from january 6 shows that former president trump and his allies knew their plot to overturn the election was illegal. the lawmakers investigating the january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol and witnesses to that day warned that former president trump and his allies posed a clear and present danger to american democracy. >> former president trump and other political allies appeared prepared to seize the presidency

in 2024. >> brennan: last week's hearings revealed shocking new details about how close we came to a potential act of horrific violence. >> approximately 40 feet, that's all there was. 40 feet between the vice president >> brennan: we learned more about the extraordinary pressure the former president exerted on his vice president to overturn the 2020 election, despite top aides telling him that the scheme was unconstitutional and his claims of voter fraud were bogus. >> these become attacks on reality. >> brennan: we'll talk with zoe lofgren. plus the federal reserve signaled it will hike interest rates at the most rapid pace in decades to fight inflation that is running at a 40-year high. >> biden: i'm using ever lever available to me to bring down prices for the american people. >> brennan: but is the

president powerless? we'll hear from brian deese and the president of the federal reserve bank of cleveland, loretta mester. and then...vaccinations for the youngest americans are set to begin this week. we'll ask former f.d.a. commissioner d dr. scott gottlib about the rollout. and as americans observe juneteenth, we'll hear from author and historian ibram x. kendi. it is all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪♪ >> brennan: good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." we have a lot to get to today, including some long-awaited covid news finalized just yesterday. nearly 20 million children will finally have access to coronavirus vaccines after the c.d.c. approved emergency use in

infants, toddlers, and pre-schoolers. relief for parents, but there is more economic anxiety. fears of a recession are piling on top of struggles with inflation. the federal reserve hiked interest rates by three-quarters of a percentage point in the single largest increase in nearly three decades. but we begin with the crisis in our american democracy. the investigation into the january 6 attack and the elaborate scheming that led up to it. lawmakers and witnesses are warning that the threat is not over. for more on what we learned and what is next in the hearings, here is cbs news congressional correspondent scott mcfarland. >> in an unprecedented pressure campaign against a sitting vice president ended with mike pence in an underground loading loadik bee mean the capitol. at one point, in insurgents were

just 40 feet away. >> a confidential person said the proud boys would have killed mike pence if given the chance. >> the vice president did not want to take any chance that the world would see the vice president of the united states fleeing the united states capitol. >> reporter: earlier that day, the president personally pressured pence one last time before the electoral vote. witnesses say he called pence a whimp. in a speech on friday, the president denied it. >> i never called mike pence a whimp. i said, what is he, a robot? he is a human conveyor belt. >> reporter: the committee argued the already violent mob was egged on further by trump's mid-afternoon tweet that pence lacked courage. >> if he caves, we're going to drag the (bleep) through the streets.

[yelling] >> reporter: a series of white house layers and aides described an elaborate weeks long effort to strong-arm pence into executing scheme to reject some of the electoral votes and steal the election. they both knew the plan was bogus and unlawful. >> i said, are you out of your f-ing mind? you're going to cause riots in the streets. >> reporter: the committee has two hearings planned for the week ahead, including one in which they're expected to argue that donald trump tried to interfere with local election officials, including in georgia. and the committee also has a team investigating the role played by far-right groups, including their efforts to plot and plan ahead of the attack. margaret? >> brennan: scott, thank you. we want to go to congresswoman zoe lofgren of california. good morning to you. you are one of the investigators

on this select committee. and i think one of the most powerful moment was when the retired conservative judge, judge ludig, said he sees a clear and present danger today. he said there could be further attempts to subvert american democracy in 2024. what exactly is the threat you see? >> well, i think judge ludig said it v very well, and, by the way, he is a very conservative man, once considered by republicans for the supreme court. i think his concern, and i share it, is that the former president is continuing on his campaign to undercut confidence in the election system. they are installing a loyalist who say that the election was stolen in states. and they're going to count the votes. they clearly tried to get the vice president to throw the actual votes out and replace

electors with a losing candidate. and it looks like that is in the works for the next election as well. it is a grave concern. >> brennan: so to be sleer, cle, there are about a hundred candidates are who repeating they are election deniers, some of what president trump still claims. at least five of them have won their primaries. have you found any direct links between any of theory candidates and the grift that you have been tracking? >> we're going to release additional information. i've got the staff working on it right now. obviously, the hearings are a couple of hours each, and you can't lay out all of the information that has been compiled. so i know there has been substantial interest in the big ripoff, and we will provide additional information to the public and soon. >> brennan: you're saying establishing direct links between those individuals

standing for election into office now and the scheme your laying out? >> not necessarily. we will lay out what we have and people can look at it. i don't want to just pop off irresponsibly here. >> brennan: you're colleague on the committee, adam kinzinger, said on another network this morning that he just received a death threat against him, his wife, and his five-month-old child for the work he is doing. he said there is violence in the future. do you agree that you have ena,d have you received threats? >> i don't want to go into the threats i've received. i think it just encourages more of them. but it is very concerning that adam and his wife and his little baby were threatened. i saw the threat. it was a written threat. we saw that republican congressman, a veey conservative representative, crenshaw, was roughed up over the weekend at a republican meeting because he

was not conservative enough. and i think that's what the former president has unleashed here. you know, when he sent out the tweet attacking his vice president, he already knew that the violence was under way. the only conclusion you can reach is that he intended to accelerate that violence against the former vice president. so we're in a very rough time in america right now. and we, all of us, elected officials and also just americans and their neighbors, need to stand up for the rule of law and against political violence. it is not what america is about. >> brennan: well, for the busy american people who may not have been watching the hearings as closely as we were, exactly what partme of justice to ou map f ultimately try to prosecute the former president? >> we are doing what we were

asked to do when the committee was formed, which is to find the truth, lay it out, and we will also be making legislative recommendations. for example, the electoral count act was violated. dr. eastman admitted as much. but we think we can tighten that up so it is less susceptible to abuse.t we're working on -- especially liz cheney and i are working on that. the department of justice has to make its own decision. we are laying out facts, they can see it, but i'm sure they have access to other information because they have grand jury meetings with various defendants. we are going to be helpful to them in terms of specific information that they wish from our own investigation. but they've got to -- it is not the role of congress to decide who gets prosecuted. >> brennan: well, a number of your fellow committee members have criticized attorney general garland for not moving faster. so they do want to see some kind of action here.d s letter from r

transcripts and saing thyour committee's failure to immediately hand them over was complicating their investigation. exactly what is going on here? >> well, that was kind of -- we were surprised by that, frankly. and we will engage. we're not going to be an obstacle to the department of justice's prosecution of individuals. we're in the middle of putting these hearings together. the staff is working incredibly hard, along with the members of congress. we will get, you know, particular information that they need over to them in an orderly way. certainly by the beginning of next month. >> brennan: by the beginning of next month. in the next week you have a number of republican officials from state and local governments coming, including arizona house speaker rusty bowers, who said he had been pressured by the former president's attorney,

rudy giuliani, and by the former president himself, to retroactively change arizona row, to choose a different slate of presidential electors. and he said he received e-mails from jenny thomas to reverse trump's loss. she is the wife of clarence thomas. will you ask barris about that link to thomas? >> i'm not going to step on the committee's lines for the hearing, but, obviously, as you know, we have invited jenny thomas to come in and visit the committee and answer our questions. and we've received, actually, additional information when we got evidence from the eastman e-mails that have now been ordered released by judge carter in california. so we have questions for her. and we may have questions for him as well. >> brennan: will jenny thomas appear? do you, indeed you need to subp?

will her husband appear? >> we have asked her to appear. it was a private letter, and she decided to disclose it, which is her right to she said publicly she looks forward to coming in and talking thank you for your time and wern will be watching. "face the nation" will be back in a minute. stay with us. . carl, say hi to nina, our schwab financial consultant. hm... i know how difficult these calls can be. not with schwab. nina made it easier to set up our financial plan. we can check in on it anytime. it changes when our goals change. planning can't be that easy. actually, it can be, carl. look forward to planning with schwab. schwab! ♪♪

>> brennan: we go now to former f.d.a. commissioner and current pfizer board member, dr. scott gottlieb, who joins us from west port, connecticut, this morning. happy fat father's day! >> doctor: thank you. >> brennan: i have been asking you for years when my children will be able to get a vaccine. and now we know they're being shipped out. this is a pretty unique rollout for these youngest of americans. in fact, children under the age of three can't go to these mass vaccination sites that we've

seen for older people. how complicated is this rolling this out to the youngest americans going to be? >> doctor: more complicated than other age segments. i think it will a little more of a slow rollout, relative to the past rollout with the other age groups. there will be pharmacies that are vaccinating children. c.v.s. will be moving it into their pharmacies, but only with stood .it will tain ith local settings because it is more difficult to vaccinate asix

>> derek >> brennan: 10 million doses made available by the government. just short of four million were ordered. that indicates a low level of uptake. does that concern you? >> doctor: look, it has continued to concern me we haven't seen an uptick of children generally. it is lower than what the initial estimate are right now. there are surveys showing that 20% of parents plan to vaccinate chdren under the age of fiver. as eclinesininto t smeloofarnts may take a wait and see attitude. i think uptick will be pretty short. the 3.9 million doses that have been ordered is a reflection of that fact. i think over time we'll see more kids get vaccinated. this is a serious disease in children. more than 1,000 children have died, about 440 under the age of

four. we have seen tens of thousands of hospitalizations in this age segment. it isn't a benign illness. we're still seeing tens of thousands of hospitalizations every week in that pediatric age segment. covid is a much different disease in children who are immuno-- if you can gain some prior immuneization, and most people eventually over the course of their lifetime is going to get this infection, it is a much different disease once you have that base line immunity against this infection. >> brennan: i hear you saying it is not that your kid won't get sick if they get the vaccination, but they won't necessarily be hospitalized? >> doctor: they'll have t-cells and memory cells that can protect them in that setting. >> brennan: every part of this pandemic has become politicized in some way, and there was this

back and forth between the white house and the state of florida. the governor there, ron desantis, the state is actively dissuading children from being vaccinated. and there is this back and forth of not ordering vaccine supplies. he is claiming the trial data was abysmal. he is not a doctor, and you're a doctor, tell me what is your view here? >> doctor: look, these vaccines have gone through robust clinical studies. we have a lot of experience with this vaccines in children. it got an anonymous vote from a diverse level of advisors at the c.d.c.. i think people should feel confident in the safety and effectiveness. there are two questions on the table with the state of florida: are they right to actively dissuade taking vaccines, and did they impede physicians to

get access to the vaccine. they could have taken a neutral stance and said they are not recommending it, but instead they affirmatively opposed the vaccines. other countries who are not recommending the vaccines haven't actively opposed the vaccine and said kids shouldn't get vaccinated. with respect to the second question, i don't think they're impeding the ability of physicians to get the vaccine. th're ju not facilitating that. they articulated this earlier in the year. the states that are really active taking possession of the vaccine from the c.d.c. and then redistributing it to physician within that state. so what other states did when they preordered vaccines. in the state of florida, they're not playing that role. they said you're going to have to direct order from the c.d.c., and because of that, no pre-orders were placed. so the state of florida was the only state that wasn'tably to wo

get pre-orders in. the white house has taken the steps to prioritize the orders that have come in from florida. they'll be getting vaccine this week. >> brennan: it is an emergency authorization. the private industry can't buy this directly. the government has to be involved, correct? >> doctor: that's right. so in the state of florida, physicians are going on to the florida state website and putting in orders. it is effectively through the state. the state is acting as a broker. but the state is not taking possession. what is happening in other states, they're taking possession of the vaccine and redistributing it. a lot of states have chosen to do that because they want to make sure there is equitable distribution, and they want to target certain parts of the state. in florida, they said, we don't think people should be getting this vaccine, and we're going to take no role in facilitating that access, so they're not blocking that access.

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>> brennan: we turn now to our economic challenges. cbs news senior national correspondent mark strassmann has more on how we got here. >> reporter: if your paycheck feels smaller, it probably is. our economy is racing red-hot with widespread worry it is careening towards a cliff. >> we have the tools we need to restore price stability. >> reporter: but there is much the fed can't control, the multiple drivers behind the highest rate of inflation in 40 years. like russia's invasion of ukraine, now almost in its fourth month. its global impact on the prices of minerals and metals, food and fuel. russian troops have blockaded stolen ukrainian wheat.

and most conspicuously, the war's impact on gas prices. at roughly $5 a gallon, the average price of u.s. gas is higher than a year ago, with a$2 cascading impact throughout our economy. take poultry prices, up almost 17% year to year. roughly double the rate of inflation. farmers need gas for equipment, even fertilizer. they're paying more, so you're paying more for chicken. another inflationary pressure: ongoing supply-chain issues, an outgrowth of the pandemic. demand dwarfs supply still. take china, makers of the world's cheap goods, the covid policies have shut down many of the manufacturing centers, including much of shanghai, the financial hub. u.s. car suppliers feel it. used cars are up 16%, new cars,

up 14%. and inflation is also high because of a c market. with almost two available positions for every job-seeker. one way employers compete for scarce workers: raise wages. and yet despite everything costing more, americans keep spending right through the price increases. a combination of cabin fever and deep pockets. washington pumped up $6 trillion in stimulus, including putting checks in the hands of consumers, and as a country, we have money to burn. $2.3 trillion in excess savings. what isn't clear if inflation has peaked or if it will trigger a recession. then there is consumer confidence, something the fed can help shape if not control. can its policies and messaging help balance supply and demand given the widespread belief out

there that with inflation things could get worse before they get better? margaret? >> brennan: mark strassmann, thank you. coming up, we'll speak with two people who help shake economic policy, brian deese, as well as the federal reserve of cleveland's loretta mester. st wit so y c to create an open hybrid cloud platform. now data is available anywhere, securely. and your digital transformation is helping find new ways to unlock energy around the world.

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this is the "cbs overnight news." good evening, everyone. jericka is off tonight. i'm nancy cordes. it's the news many parents have been waiting to hear since the start of the covid pandemic more than two years ago. the first covid shots for children ages 5 and under are heading out the door a day after the director of the cdc signed off on two vaccines. here's the new cdc recommendation this weekend. all children 6 months and up should get vaccinated. the first shots for the youngest set will be available this week and cbs's elise preston leads us off with all the details. elise, good ev