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ds again next sunday morning. i'm robert costa in washington. this week on "face the nation," supporters of abortion rights push for more action from the biden administration and congress. and the midterm campaign ramps up. outside the white house, frustration over abortion rights intensifies amid growing confusion over where and how women can safely get abortions. president biden's executive order seeking to expand and strengthen access can only go so far. his solution is november's elections. >> so what we're missing wasn't a constitutional judgment.
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it was an exercise in raw political power. we need two additional pro-choice senators and a pro choice house to codify row as federal law. your vote can make that a reality. >> we sat down with vice president kamala harris. she will outline the administration's strategy on abortion rights and more. finish this sentence for me. americans need to vote for democrats in november because? >> our democracy is on the ballot. truly. >> do republicans see it differently? we'll talk with a rising star in the gop. virginia governor glenn youngkin, a businessman who won in an upset last november. we will preview this week's january 6th hearing with maryland congressman jamie raskin. finally, a look at the documentary shot behind the scenes during the final weeks of the trump administration. >> it's not even a contest, but
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you still need a judge that has courage. and so far we haven't found that judge. >> it's all just ahead on "face the nation." >> good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." margaret is out today. last week we witnessed a series of shocking events around the world after refusing to resign for months, british prime minister boris johnson finally succumbed to political pressure and quit. in japan, a country with some of the toughest gun laws in the world, former prime minister shinzo abe was shot and killed during a campaign event. here at home, 7 people were shot and killed and dozens injured while watching a 4th of july parade in highland park, a suburb of chicago. so far this year in the u.s.,
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there have been 327 mass shootings. 12 of them since that shooting a week ago. vice president kamala harris visited highland park just after the shooting. we sat down with her in her ceremonial office on friday. and that's where our conversation began. >> when you meet with first responders, when you meet with families of these victims, you cannot avoid the reality of what the impact of this gun violence is. on a community, on families, on people who -- who love their community, who have loved their family member. and assault weapons. so let's just go right to that assault weapons. assault weapons were specifically and intentionally designed to kill a lot of human beings quickly. it is a weapon of war.
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if you have ever looked at, if i may be so blunt, an autopsy photograph to see what it does to the human body and the fact that we can't get congress to renew. it's not like we're pulling something out of our hat. we have done it before as a nation, to renew the assault weapons ban is outrageous. you can support the second amendment. i support the second amendment. but we should agree we should not have weapons of war on the streets of america. >> why do so many mass shooters, often young man radicalized online, seem to still have access legally to weapons and to slip passed red flag laws like those in illinois? >> because those weapons are available, and we have to stop allowing those weapons to be
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available to civilians living in communities of people who have a right to believe that they are not in a war zone. > president biden issued an executive order on abortion seeking to expand and bolster access. but so many democrats in this country remain very angry about the recent supreme court decision. >> yeah. >> california governor gavin newsom said this in may. >> where is the democratic party? where's the party? why aren't we calling this out? this is a concerted, coordinated effort. and, yes, they're winning. >> is he right? >> i think all of us share a deep sense of outrage that the united states supreme court took a constitutional right that was recognized, took it, from the women of america. i mean, sit back and think about that for a moment.
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the highest court in our land just took a constitutional right that was recognized for women to make decisions about their own bodies. and so now we are looking at a situation where the government can tell a person in our country what they can and cannot do with their own body. you don't have to agree that you want to or would advocate that your loved one would have an abortion. to agree that the government should not be making that decision for any individual woman. >> do democrats fail past leaders to not codify roe v. wade over the past five decades? >> i do believe that we should have rightly believed but we certainly believe that certain issues are just settled. certain issues are just settled. >> clearly we're not. >> no, that's right. and that's why i do believe we
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are living, sadly, in real unsettled times. there is another example of this point, voting rights. fundamental principal of our democracy is everyone should have access or entitled to have access to both. now you see states across the country that are intentionally making it more difficult for people to vote. we thought that was settled. we thought that was settled at least by law in the '60s. we look now at the issue of choice. we thought that was settled. >> what will this administration do to try to codify roe to try, through congress, put into law some of these priorities? >> what we will do through the executive branch to ensure that women have the ability to -- to travel freely, unimcouple bered, that women will have access to the medication. but we also need congress to act because that branch of government is where we actually
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codify, which means put into law, the rights that, again, we took for granted but clearly have now been taken from the women of america. we have seen that in the past. if you think about the voting rights act. congress acted. civil rights act. congress acted because where there was any question, especially through the courts or any other system about the sanctity of these rights, we decided as a nation we would put it into law. that's what we need to do with roe and the principals behind roe. >> some senators suggested that justice gorsich and brett kavanaugh led them during the confirmation hearings on roe v. wade. some democrats have called for those justices to be impeached. do you believe they should be impeached? >> i start from the point of experience of having served in the senate. i never believed them. i didn't believe them. so i voted against.
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>> so what now, though? >> we need to understand that states are passing laws because what the supreme court has now allowed to happen. so what does this mean? it means that we're looking at elections coming up. >> right. >> in 120-something days. they will be about two serves in congress. and we need a pro choice congress. again, you don't have to advocate or believe that this is right for you or your family, but don't let the government make the decision for her family, whoever she may be. it means state offices, governors, secretaries of state, attorneys general. it means local races. who is going to be your da? who is going to be your sheriff? enforcing laws being passed to criminalize medical health providers and maybe even the women who seek the service. >> basketball star brittney griner, she remains imprisoned in russia. you and president biden spoke with her life. >> yes, yes.
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>> you reassured her. but what kind of reassurance is possible now. she has pled guilty. is a prisoner swap on the table? >> we take very serious and we have been very clear, brittney griner and there are sadly other americans who are being unlawfully detained around the world. and it is on our highest priority list to bring those folks home. i can't talk to you about the details of what's happening behind the scenes, but i can tell you that it is one of our highest priorities to bring these americans home. >> we're just months away from the midterm elections. finish this sentence for me. americans need to vote for democrats in november because? >> our democracy is on the ballot. truly. truly. if you look at an issue like choice, it's on the ballot. a woman's right to make decisions about her own body and potentially what can happen in
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the not too distant future around issues like access to and making decisions about contraception and same sex marriage. elections matter. the people who are elected especially to the united states congress will decide the outcome of all of these issues, voting rights. the ability of us to pass voting rights legislation, the john lewis voting rights act, the freedom to vote act will be a function of who is in congress. >> when i go around the country as a reporter, i talk to black americans. they bring up voting rights. they also bring us police reform. >> yep. >> and say they two years after george floyd was killed, you have jaylen walker in ohio, 60 wounds from police officers. >> 60 gunshots. >> 60 gunshots. gun violence still killing black americans from police officers. polls, though, support for this administration from black americans has softened.
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how will you turn that around? >> black americans should be demanding and rightly that we pass legislation that addresses these issues that you have mentioned. i was an author of the george floyd justice in policing act. i believe strongly we should have accountability in all systems, including policing. >> are they frustrated policing has stalled? >> right. but there is a connection between what we want to have happen and the power of congress to actually make it happen when it comes to changing the laws. when it comes to writing and putting in effect laws that create accountability and greater fairness in our system, be it our criminal justice system, our health care delivery system, all of that. but i will say this. what we have also seen is that black americans and all americans said, look at the united states supreme court. there is never in the history of that court been a black woman to serve. there now is. because people stood in line in 2020 for hours demanding of the
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things that they would stand in line to see happen there would be a ketanji brown jackson -- a justice, excuse me. ketanji brown jackson on the united states supreme court. so there are demands that were made by voters saying, these are the things we want out of this administration. and a lot of those demands have been met in the first year and a half. there is still more work to do without any question. >> up on capitol hill, there is speculation among some democrats and some republicans that president biden won't run for re-election in 2024. what is your message to those who say that? >> listen to president biden. he intends to run, and if he does, i intend to run with him. so there you go. >> another run by former president trump is possible. he is signaling that. would that make it more likely that the president runs?
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>> he did it before. >> another issue is immigration. >> uh-huh. >> texas governor greg abbott this week authorized state officials there to arrest migrants and take them to federal border crossing facilities, and he's blamed the administration for the immigration issue in his state. he's called it a, quote, invasion. what will the administration do about governor abbott's decision and the migrant issue? >> i would suggest that so-called leaders focus on solutions instead of attacks if they really are concerned about a problem. and that includes on the issue of immigration passing a pathway for citizenship, fixing what in particular under the prior administration was a badly broken system so that we could have a hum appropriate approach to this issue,
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including, of course, what we will continue to do in terms of prioritizing border security, but understanding we also need to create a pathway. and -- and that's where i think everyone should be focussed. if they're actually concerned about solutions instead of flame throwing. >> vice president harris, thank you very much for taking the time. >> you're welcome. thank you. good to be with you, bob. >> good to be with you. our full interview with vice president harris can be seen on our website and on our youtube channel. "face the nation" will be back in one minute. stay with us.
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gets an abortion or not. do you agree? >> first of all, good morning and thank you for having me. and the debate on abortion has been raging for a long time. and i believe as a pro life governor that life begins at conception. my job as a pro life governor in a state in virginia where 18 months ago the debate in our general assembly was around whether abortion should be allowed all the way up through and including birth, funded by taxpayer money. and, so, this tha are going to to. the supreme court's decision, i agree with, that this is a decision for states to make by elected officials. by the citizens of virginia. and that's why right out of the box i called for a 15-week paying threshold bill to be formed and crafted by a bipartisan group of legislatures. i think this is what it's all
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about. this is a moment for our country to have a discussion around this. each state will decide something different. that's the real value of the supreme court's decision. >> you said you proposed a 15-week ban. will you ever pursue a full ban on abortion in virginia? >> the reality is that as a pro life governor in a state like virginia, where i have a senate that's controlled by democrats and a house that's controlled by republicans, we have to find a way to get things done. i believe that's what we have been able to do, is get things done at a time when you have to bring people together in order to make progress. as i said, i believe life begins at conception. in virginia, we have got to work with a senate and a house. this is what we have been doing. >> but will you ever pursue a full ban? >> i believe what my job is to get something done. i believe we can get a 15-week
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pain threshold set. this is a state that 18 months ago was enabling abortion all the way up through and including birth. now we're able to take about a 15-week pain threshold bill where a baby feels pain. this is an opportunity i'm not going to let go. >> are they wrong? >> again, i think this is a moment where we have to reflect on our personal beliefs. and as a pro life governor, i have really reflected on my own faith and my beliefs. i do believe there should be exceptions made in the case of rape and incest and when the life of the mother is truly at risk. this is a moment where people have to come together. the one thing that's very much agreed on in virginia today is we want fewer abortions, not more. this is a chance over the next five months for the legislatures to craft a path there and give me a bill i can sign. >> on education, one of your first actions as governor was to
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propose the end of teaching of, quote, inherently divisive concepts. what is an example? >> well, in virginia schools, and we saw loudoun county literally be ground zero, we saw students being taught they should view everything through a lens of race and judge one another. again, we're not talking about forgetting our history. in fact, one of the things we have to do is teach all of our history, the good and the bad. but we shouldn't -- we shouldn't play -- we shouldn't play privilege bingo with children. we shouldn't teach children that they should judge one another and one group is privileged and another group will find it hard in life necessarily, and we shouldn't blame someone and have them form a view that they're inherently racist because of their race or their sex or religion. we can do this. right out of the box, we worked in order to remove inherently
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divisive concepts from curriculum. we absolutely -- we absolutely are pushing to teach all history, the good and the bad. and, again, we can bring together around this. >> it is a challenge, though. you say virginia is willing to teach all history. suppose your board of education comes to you and says to you, governor, the civil war, we recommend it is too divisive. we want to call it the war between the states. what would you to? >> i don't think they're going to do that. >> they could. >> i don't think they will. i think what we all recognize is that slavery was an -- it was an absolute black spot in our history. i mean, it is so, so abhorrent. we have to teach it. and this is not a moment where we're running away from these topics. this is why i'm so excited about our education agenda in virginia. we stepped into our game plan with a comprehensive education plan to have the highest education budget in the history of virginia to fund special ed programs, to fund into laboratory schools to provide
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choice to give teachers raises and we got it all done, all of it. that's what's so exciting, is we brought people together around an education agenda, which is common sense focussed. again, i believe there is certain groups that want to drive people apart. my job is to pull them together around a vision for education that can deliver for our kids. >> security is also an issue in your state. some of the justices of the supreme court live in virginia. do you have confidence that the justices who live in virginia are adequately protected. >> our judges in virginia are adequately protected. i wish we could do more. this is why i have called on attorney general garland to enforce the federal law, which is so clear. you can't parade and picket in front of a judge's home and try to influence them. i have been consistent in calling on him to please enforce the law. we have substantial state resources positioned right around from the justices' homes. i speak to them frequently to make sure that they feel
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adequately protected, and i'm encouraged by those conversations. this is not a moment where we can allow anything to happen to our justices broadly speaking. this is about democracy. >> on the court, the court is moving right now on several different fronts. it could move on same sex marriage in the coming years. will you take any steps to codify same sex marriage in virginia? >> i believe what the supreme court has done most recently is so consistent with what we know the constitution stands for, which is returning the rights to states to make these decisions like roe v. wade. protecting, in fact, the right of lawmakers to make laws, not an executive branch to pass rules and regulations that overstep boundaries. this is whether or not the supreme court has been so focussed on. virginia we actually do protect same sex marriage in virginia. that's the law in virginia. therefore, as governor in virginia, we protect same sex marriage. i think what's happening right now is that there are so many --
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there are so many elements trying to pull people apart, and we have chance to pull them together. >> governor, we will be right back. we have to take a break for the moment, but we have a lot more to ask the governor, and we will be right back.
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we'll be right back with more from governor youngkin. plus jamie raskin and more. stay with us.
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welcome back to "face the nation." we want to continue our repuican governor glenn ia youngkin. governor youngkin, you were just in nebraska on saturday speaking to republicans across the country. you have also said president biden was legitimately elected. former president trump continues to falsely claim the 2020 election was stolen. should he stop saying that? >> let me begin with my trip to nebraska, which was really great fun. governor rickets really helped me in my face and it was a great chance for me to show up and help in the next race to elect a republican in nebraska.
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one of the things i'm really focussed on is