sounds again next sunday morning. i'm margaret brennan in washington and this week on "face the nation," grim economic numbers prompt new fears of a recession as president biden makes a controversial trip to try and help cut global energy prices. costs continue to soar. with the price of food, energy and housing all up from may. inflation is now up 9% year over year despite a strong jobs market and decreasing gas prices. wall street and economic observers were shocked by the report, but those numbers came as no surprise to americans finding it harder and harder to make ends meet. this was not the news the president needed on his mid east trip where he was criticized by some democrats for meeting with

the saudi crown prince. mbs approved an operation to kill jamal khashoggi in 2018. >> i'd be glad to talk about something that matters. >> will inflation go down from here, mr. president? >> we'll devote most of our broadcast to the economy today. presidential data around energy security, and jason furman and d.c. mayor muriel bowser. we'll also preview this week's prime-time installment of the january 6th hearings with adam kinzinger presenting new evidence thursday. plus, former fda commissioner dr. scott gottleib is back with us as monkeypox continues to spread and new covid variants prompt questions about what kind of booster works

best. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." good morning. welcome to "face the nation." we have a lot to get to today, but we begin with the new january 6th investigation developments. late friday the committee issued a subpoena for secret service records following the revelation that the agency had erased text messages from the day before and the day of the january 6th attack on the capitol. last tuesday's hearing detailed a chaotic white house meeting between the former president, white house counsel pat cipollone and a group of outsides advisors over a plot to seize ballot boxes and overturn the 2020 election. this week the panel will hold a primetime hearing on thursday focused on the 187 minutes from the time when president trump

left the stage at that rally in the ellipse -- >> we're going to walk down to the capitol -- >> until he issued that infamous video message. >> so go home. we love you. you're very special. >> republican congressman adam kinzinger will be co-leading that hearing on tuesday, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> let's start with the secret service texts. they said it was a matter of timing and a tech upgrade. do you believe that or was this malicious? >> i think we're going to know more tuesday. we made the decision as a committee that we need to subpoena the records. the ig said we have been working hard to claim this. we moved everything, we lost these texts and then they also put out a statement though that said we've only lost some of the texts and everything relevant to this investigation has been turned over. those are very conflicting statements so we decided as a committee, let's request these by tuesday and we can make a

decision. i will say this, in the very least it is quite crazy that the secret service would actually end up deleting anything related to one of the more infamous days in american history, particularly when it comes to the role of the secret service. >> so the subpoena set tuesday as the deadline. has the secret service said we will meet that deadline and the texts still do exist somewhere? >> that's what we -- from what we understand, they've said we'll meet this deadline. we'll see what we get. >> they exist? >> we don't know. either we get that stuff. if we end up getting the texts, obviously for whatever reason the ig didn't, now you have what you have. if we don't, then it'll call out the secret service as saying they had the texts or they don't. is this anything big? we're not sure but we need to chase every lead down on this. there's a question of why are they not cooperating with the l? the dhnn

the past with s secret service officers so do you have a date yet to question the two in particular, tony ornato about what happened january 6th? he's relevant because of cassidy hutchins's testimony. >> we'd love to have him come in. we're working out the details. through anonymous sources they said they would be happy to come in. anybody that knows anything but it's got to be under oath. right now it's just been discussion through see very confidential and cassidy hu hutc hutchinson, it's important. >> will you get that by thursday on this hearing? >> i highly doubt we'll get them coming in talking by thursday but, again, i would love that. but we keep getting new people coming in every day with

information willing to go on the record. it's been amazing since the hearings started. >> cnn reporting a dc police officer who had been somehow involved in the motorcade arrangements was corroborating the testimony given by cassidy hutchinson, that there was almost violent confrontation with the former president and the vehicle that day. is that what the committee has been told? >> i can't confirm or deny those because we haven't come out with who we have or haven't spoken to. i'll just say i'm not going to aggressively push back on that characterization. we have every reason to believe what cassidy hutchinson said at least from what she heard. she was never in the limb know. >> she was told this by others. >> she was told this. we fully believe she is a credible witness and her allegations are quite explosive. >> 187 minutes. you're leading this hearing.

you know what you can present at this point. can you at least tell us if you've filled in the blanks of, you know, who the president actually was speaking with, why there weren't phone records, for example, of phone calls he made at places during that time period? >> we have filled in the blanks. i can't necessarily say that the motives behind every piece of information we know we'll be able to explain, but this is going to open people's eyes in a big way. the reality is, i'll give you this preview, the president didn't do much but gleefully watch television. i know what i felt like as a u.s. congressman. if i was a president sworn to defend the constitution, that includes the legislative branch watching this on television, i know i would have been going ballistic to try to sach ve the capitol. >> the president didn't do anything? >> he didn't do anything. if the americans watch this, watch this with an open mind.

is this the kind of strong leader you really think you deserve? >> the chairman of the committee, bennie thompson, has said you all are still discussing whether to go ahead and try to force a conversation with the former vice president, mike pence. his former chief of staff marc short said on this very low likelihood of that ever happening. do you personally want to subpoena mike pence? >> look, i personally want to talk to mike pence. i think there's a difference between do we subpoena him, do we ask him for a transcribed interview. i think it would be important to hear anything he's said. i'm not sure we'll get a ton out of him outside of what the staff told us. the big question is is there benefit in talking to donald trump and requesting he come in? that's something we're negotiating back and forth and whether we want to do that. w value in speaking directly to the former president and the vice president when the former vice president's chief of

staff and his, you know, legal adviser have testified to you? why do you need him physically there? what would the president's testimony do? >> yeah, i'm not sure we do need them physically there because, again, we're getting a lot of information. i think you'll see after thursday's hearing, we know a lot. look, donald trump has made it clear that he doesn't mind not telling the truth. let's put that mildly. he lies all the time. i wouldn't put it past him to lie under oath. i'm not sure what the value is. i think the thing to keep in mind is, this investigation is not winding down. we may be towards the end of this tranche of hearings, we may have more hearings in the future and the investigation is still ongoing. we're getting to the bottom of what we need to know. >> trch hearings. what does that mean? how many more do you have? >> this is the eighth hearing. this is the end in this grouping. i fully expect when the report comes out we may have a hearing or two around that, but of

course as you saw with cassidy hutchinson, if we get information the american people may need to know, we mabrey up more hearings at that time too. >> i want to ask you about the former overstock ceo patrick byrne. he said there is so much interest because it all comes down to the crux of history comes down to it. then his lawyer said, stop talking. what is the crux of history? >> it's hard to get in the mind of somebody like patrick byrne? it seems patrick believes there's a deep state conspiracy or at least have the deep state way of the government. i don't know what would have come next in his mind but i can

tell you his -- he seems a little unmorphed in reality and public policy. >> mother jones published text from steve bannon about the former president's plan to declare victory. let's listen to what he said? >> what trump's going to do is declare victory. that doesn't mean he's the winner. he's going to say he's the winner. he's going to declare himself the winner. when you wake up wednesday morning, it is going to be a firestorm. >> what does that indicate to you? steve back nonspeaks sometimes in hyperbolic terms. does that indicate to you there was a level of planning going back that far? >> oh, yeah. look. if you look at the president's statements even months prior to the election he started saying, if we lose, it's because it's going to be stole. there was -- i think it was chris stirewalt came in and

talked about that idea, the red mirage. early in the night it will look like republicans are winning and later it will be the obvious result. i think democrats were ahead in ohio significantly at the beginning of the night. steve bannon is an agent of chaos. steve bannon in his own words believes you have to basically burn the system down to rebuild it and fix it. what he's saying right there is very clearly him saying, no matter what we're declaring victory, and that is a violation of everything we have to hold dear in the constitution. the only thing we need for democracy to survive is the knowledge that you can vote, that that vote counts and we have lived within winner or loser. if half the country believes that wasn't accurate, you can't expect democracy to survive. she's challenging a subpoena by a grand jury. thy want to ask him questions about this call he placed to the secretary of state there around the election.

graham said he's done nothing wrong. is there a reason the january 6th committee has not spoken to him? are there questions you have for him? >> well, look, the question of is there reasons? well, i mean, first off, we have a lot of information in terms of what happened in georgia. that's a piece of our investigation. we have the whole broader thing of what led to january 6th, in terms of him, no, i haven't talked to lindsey graham personally. that's his decision. i'm not sure if his issues of speech and debate, he claims the protection, he was acting in his position as a senator, i'm not sure if that would apply to if you're trying to change the election outcome. i'm not the lawyer, but it would seem difficult. >> thank you for coming in. we'll be watching on thursday. cbs news will cover that on 8

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ibm. let's create there are now more than 1800 confirmed cases of monkeypox in the united states. states and cities where infections are spiking are demanding more vaccines from the biden administration. joining us is dr. scott gottleib who's also a board member at pfizer. good to have you here. >> good to see you. >> give us a sense of the scale of this? the cdc numbers are out they say there's only eight women, no children. you're saying this is a pa pandemic. that's not a word the administration is using. what level of emergency are we at? >> i think they're going to be reluctant to use the word pandemic. we're now at the cusp of this becoming an endemic virus. i think the window for getting

control and containing it has closed. if it hasn't closed, it's starting to close. 11,000 cases across the world, 1800 cases in the u.s. we're probably detecting just a fractif ctua cases because we had for a long time a very narrow case definition and by and large we're looking in a community of men who have sex with men and at std clinics. we're looking there, finding cases there but it's a fact there's cases outside that community right now. we're not picking them up because we're not looking there. this has spread. i wouldn't be surprised there's thousand of cases now. >> it's chilling to hear you say containment has failed. i've heard you say that with covid. >> this isn't going to spread like covid. we made a lot of the same mistakes we made with covid with this. having a narrow case definition, not enough testing early enough, not providing vaccine in an

aggressive fashion. now this is firmly embedded in the community. while it's not going to explode because it's harder for the virus to spread, it will be persistent. you'll have this as a fact of life maybe spreading as a sexually transmitted disease but also breaking out of the settings. >> the cdc said monkeypox can show up three weeks post exposure. what are the basic signs? >> it's a rash associated with fever and achiness. you used to get a disseminated rash. people aren't presenting with a widely diffuse rash. it's being confused with other visicular rashes. anyone who presents with a visicular rash, a rash that causes vesicles should be tested for monkeypox. that's the way we're going to

snuff this out. now cdc has gotten in place more testing, adequate testing to broaden it to do that. >> problem with testing, also it seems that distribution or access to a vaccine is an issue. the mayor of new york, governor of new york asking the biden administration to do more to get them access y. is this a problem? >> we have inadequate vaccines. we took our eye off the ball of small position. they ordered about 300,000 doses that have been delivered. 150,000 have been distributed. another 130,000 -- >> what about overseas? >> there's 800,000 doses that were overseas that the manufacturer bavarian in order dick had overseas. fda has to do lock release. they have to inspect the doses to make sure they were

appropriately manufactured. they're doing the same point as they're deploying the 800,000 doses. those are going to cities. as soon as fda finishes that, which should be this week, those doses can be distributed or used on patients. i think the vaccine situation is going to improve dramatically. you'll see hundreds of thousands of doses available. the white house has intervened to take control of the response away from the cdc. this can't be our response. when the cdc drops the ball, the white house steps in. we need to fundamentally reform how we respond to these crises. >> you wrote a book on that. i want to ask you about covid. 54% of americans live in an area of high covid community spread. that's up from 31% the prior week. that seems fast moving. what is different about these variants now? >> well, look, it's the b. 5

variant that's growing. it does seem to be the b. 2 infection confers more robust immunity against b. 5. northeast will be more protected. there's over 100,000 cases on average being reported on a daily basis. we're probably detecting one in ten. it's probably more like a million. i think most americans have started to accept this as part of the fabric of daily living. it's based on the fact that people feel more impervious to a bad outcome. this is a backdrop of normal living. >> the white house is saying put a mask on if you go into indoor gatherings. the city of los angeles says they might institute this. >> i don't think we're going to see mandates. there isn't a lot of -- >> is it advisable? >> if you're going into a congregate setting with a lot of

people you don't know is prudent. especially if you're someone at risk. i still wear a mask in certain settings. i wear it through the airport. if i catch covid i want it to be from family or friend. i try to be prudent when i'm in mixed company. it's advisable especially if you are vulnerable. >> a booster shot, will we have a rebooted bivalent vaccine in the fall? >> there will be a vaccine based on b. 4 that they are manufacturing now. there is a bivalent on the shelf. that would be more protective. they've made a decision so far not to deploy that but to wait for the b. 4 variant. if you are above the age of 50 and you haven't had a dose of vaccine, you probably should get one. sequencing is good. get a dose now. >> dr. gottleib, good to have

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in uvalde, texas, the community awaits an investigation done by the house into the massacre at robb elementary school. more than an hour of video school security cameras will be shown to families along with that report. cbs news correspondent lillia has the story. >> reporter: for too many parents, it's too late. answers will not bring their children back, but they hope this investigation will pave the way for some level of accountability and will prevent at least a delayed response like this one from happening in the future. one of the big questions we're seeking to answer is why did officers wait more than 70 minutes to stop the shooter when the training for every one of

the seven agencies represented in those hallways tells them you stop an active shooter immediately. why did they wait? even if the gunman continued to shoot. they had shields, rifles, breaching tools. why was the state's governor, republican greg abbott, given incorrect information about the shooting response in the immediate aftermath. >> how do you feel about that now that you've seen the video? >> well, just as angry because it's clear na what was shown on the video was the exact opposite of the information that i was given on the day that i went out and explained what happened. >> reporter: the committee interviewed nearly 40 people, at least 20 from law enforcement. among the questions that we need answers to is why did officers think that this was a barricaded subject. why did they wait when we know from previous police reports there were discussions among officers about children being inside the classroom, about possible injured people inside and we also know that early on in the time line officers were

talking to dispatch so who was getting the 911 calls from children like these who was calling from inside the room nearly 50 minutes before that door was breached? this is not the only investigation. there are at least four others, including one by the texas rangers and a federal one by the department of justice that so-called critical incident review seeks to inform future policy, training and apply lessons learned for other police agencies across the agency. >> we'll be right back. thank you. in my ozempic® tri-zone, i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. announcer: ozempic® provides powerful a1c reduction. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as stroke, heart attack, or death in adults also with known heart disease.

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