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i'm jane pauley. please join us when our trumpet morning." washington n week on "face the nation," president biden is battling a covid infection. as the world prepares for another health crisis. merely two and a half years into the covid pandemic, president biden is experiencing what millions of americans have gone through. a bout of what may be the latest mutation of covid. >> i'm doing well. getting a lot of work done. >> but the country is facing another health crisis as the rapid spread of monkeypox prompts the world health organization to dough layer a global emergency. >> this is an outbreak that can be stopped with the right strategies. >> we'll discuss the strategy for containing monkeypox, the evolving threat of covid and the president's own prognosis with
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white house coronavirus response coordinator dr. ashish jha. meanwhile, a dangerous heatwave rolls through the u.s. bringing with it intensifying drought and raging wildfires. we'll hear from the mayor of miami, republican francis suarez, about how his if front line city is preparing for rising sea levels and extreme weather. and with the president's environmental agenda stalled in congress, we will ask commerce secretary gina raimondo about what is next for climate and competition with china. then, the committee investigating the january 6th attack on the detail, new details about former president trump's conduct during and after the adult. >> i don't want to say the election is over. >> will the revolutions have any legal impact on mr. trump's future? >> i announce i was not going to run for office, the persecution of donald trump would stop. >> we will check in with california democratic congressman adam schiff, a member of the select committee.
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and just hours after a u.n. brokered deal was signed to release vital grain exports, russia bombs the very ports where they're stored as the war continues to roil the global economy, we will talk to ukraine's ambassador to the u.s. oksana markarova. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ ♪ good morning and welcome to "face the nation." we have a lot of news to get through this morning, but we want to begin on the medical beat with the latest on president biden's condition and the fight to contain both covid and monkeypox. we're joined by white house coronavirus response coordinator dr. ashish jha. welcome to "face the nation." >> good morning. thanks for having me here. >> the white house physician has said that it's the ba.5 variant
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that likely infected the president. that's the dominant variant across the country right now. it's highly transmissable. how is the president's health and do you know where he got it? >> yeah, so it is the ba.5, which is, as you said, 80% of infections. the president is doing well. i can checked in with the team late last night. he was feeling well. he had a good day yesterday. he has a viral syndrome, upper respiratory infection, that >> there is so little known about long covid, but given the president's age, do you expect that the white house will continue to make disclosures if he has long-term symptoms from this infection? >> absolutely. we think it's really important for the american people to know how well their president is doing, which is why we have been so transparent, giving updates several times a day, having people hear from me directly, from his physician. and, obviously, if he has
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persistent symptoms, obviously, if any of them interfere with his ability to carry out his duties, we will disclose that early and often with the american people. >> about six out of ten americans, according to the cdc, live in areas of high transmission right now. that includes major cities like new york, phoenix, miami. there are no indoor mask mandates there. does that concern you? >> in areas of high transmission, i think it's prudent for people to be wearing masks indoors, especially if they are in crowded, poorly ventilated spaces. wh that's what the cdc recommends. >> i want to talk about monkeypox. the world health organization yesterday declared it a public health emergency of international concern. that's the highest level of alert. the biden administration, hhs, stopped short of doing that. should you declare it a pandemic? should you declare it a public health emergency? >> we are seeing out of bounds that are out of control in many, many parts of the world.
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it's very important to get our arms around this thing. >> what about here? >> in the u.s. we are looking at public health emergency as something that hhs might deliver, might invoke. it really depends what does that allow us to do. we have over 2,000 cases but we have ramped up vaccinations, ramped up treatments, ramped up testing and with we will continue to look at policy options. >> you said back in may that you think we can get our arms around this. you said monkeypox is a virus that we understand. are you saying today, just like then, you think monkeypox can be contained? >> i do think monkeypox can be contained, absolutely. the way we contain monkeypox is we have a very simple straightforward strategy on this, which is make testing widely available. we have done that. now testing is far more frequent and common. >> it was slow. >> we have the capacity to do 90,000 e tests a week.
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sorry, 80,000 tests a week. tat's an extraordinary number. we will be releases hundreds of thousands of more vaccines in the next days and weeks. so there is a very substantial ramping up of response that is happening now. >> but i ask you about containment because you could have shifted allocation earlier. surged it differently. sooner switching from at risk individuals to areas where there are active, high case counts and an outbreak. the cdc director said a few days ago her agency has no data on who has been vaccinated. she said there is one key important similarity with covid and with monkeypox, and that is the cdc's inability to see data in real time. so this seems to be still an issue for our health agencies to act quickly to contain an outbreak. this is a problem. >> yeah. so what i would remind us is that public health in america has always been led by states. it is important for states to be sharing data with cdc.
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we have been working with states across the country, lots of states have been forthcoming and my expectations, we will get more and more data from states to help us understand the national picture a bit more, in a bit more detail. we have a pretty good feel now for how widespread monkeypox is. about 2,000 or so cases across the country. >> a fellow democratic, congressman adam schiff, who will be on the program today, sent aeto hhs saying the federal government is falling short of the response that is needed. skyrocketing cases, limited vaccinati vaccination supply suggests that it will continue to spread forto indefinitely? >> well, it is endemic in certain parts of the world. >> i am asking about here. >> the plan here is very straightforward. the plan is to eliminate this
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virus from the united states. i think we can to that. we have the vaccines. >> there are two children with it that the cdc knows of at least, and the cdc said both of these children are traced back to individuals who come from the men who have sex with men community. how actively is this being spread and are you still only talking about the gay community because you are only looking there? >> yeah. so we, obviously, know that this virus is spreading largely in the gay community among men who have sex with men. but, obviously, there are other people who are at risk as well, people they interact with. anybody who has monkeypox can spread it to others. it is through skin-to-skin contact, direct and prolonged contact. we are doing a broad surveillance. this is why we have ramped up testing capacity, we're encou encouraging physicians to do more broad scale testing. >> one other issue right now, we heard in the state of new york the first case of polio in nearly a decade was confirmed in
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an unvaccinated 20-year-old man in rockland county, new york. he was hospitalized back in june. are there other cases, and if he was infected in june, why are we only now hearing about it? >> this is a place where the cdc is working with the department of health. it is an unvaccinated individual. thankfully, most americans are vaccinated against polio. most of the world is vaccinated against polio. if, obviously, you are not vaccinated against polio, critically important. >> i have a small child. it takes time to get fully vaccinated. should i be concerned that there are polio cases spreading in new york and in the united states? >> there is a lot of surveillance that we to for polio. wastewater surveillance goes on. we are not seeing out of bbreak polio. again, so many americans are vaccinated against this. >> dr. jha, thank you for your time. "face the nation" will be back in a moment. stay with us. th magic eraser
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findings from the house select committee investigating the attack on the capitol. thursday, the committee detailed hours of inaction by president trump during the assault as he sat in his dining room watched the violence unfold op television and chose to do nothing to stop the siege of congress despite pleas by advisors, republican lawmakers and allies. >> commander in chief, you got an assault going on on the capitol of the united states of america. there is nothing. no call, nothing, zero. >> we learned that secret service agents protecting vice president mike pence feared for their lives. >> there were calls to say goodbye to family members, so on and so forth. we thought this was about to get very ugly. >> we saw for the first time top congressional leaders working with the acting secretary of defense to get back to certifying the electoral votes.
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>> the earliest we can safely resume? >> my assessment, i would say best case we're looking at four to five hours. >> the hearings have featured a wide range of witnesses but the through line of nearly all the testimony has been former president trump and his relentless efforts to overturn his loss in the 2020 election. committee members say the investigation is far from over with more hearings planned for september. joining us now a member of that panel, congressman adam schiff of california, who is also the chair of the house intelligence committee. good to have you here with us. >> thank you. >> before i go further on january 6th, i want to quickly button up what dr. jha addressed in regard to that letter you wrote this week in regard to monkeypox. you said the federal response falls short in supply and timeliness regarding a vaccine. the current supply, 3.5 million
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residents, some shipments are not expected to arrive until 2023. why do you think the federal response is failing when dr. jha says it's contained and under control? >> i don't know why there aren't more vaccines available. i am hearing from health care providers in my district that there are people lining up to get vaccinated and they don't have the vaccines for them. and that is a real problem. we don't know the future course of this virus, but what we do now early on, just as was the case with the pandemic, will determine just how bad this may get. and so i want to light a fire under the administration and get them to up production, up distribution, and people that are ready and willing and able to get vaccinated have the ability to protect themselves. >> we'll continue tracking that on this program. let me get back to january 6th. when you were last on this program you said you believed that it would be more dangerous
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for the justice department to decide against prosecuting the former president than it would be to go ahead with the prosecution. here's how attorney general merrick garland responded when my colleague jeff pegues asked him about potential prosecution. >> no person is above the law in this country. nothing stops us. >> even a former president? >> i don't know how to -- i will say that again. no person is above the law in this country. >> what do you tho remarks? >> well, the attorney general who is committed to follow the evidence wherever it may lead, and it has led to donald trump. and so i think the president should be investigated. whether they will ultimately conclude, they have prove beyond a reasonable doubt to charge him and convict him, that will be up to the department. but what we have demonstrated just in the last couple of hearings is that when all else failed, when the other lines of effort to overturn the election
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failed, he made the decisions to bring a mob to the capitol when he learned they were armed, his response was then take the megnetometers down. he wanted to march with that mob, that dangerous mob to the capitol. who he was refused and brought to the safety of the dining room of the white house he wouldn't lift a finger as he watched on tv police officers being beaten and gouged and sprayed with chemicals in the most supreme dereliction of duty ever. also those multiple lines of effort invoke various criminal laws and his conduct ought to be the subject of an investigation. we will see if the justice department starts one. on the things that the committee has laid out in this congressional forum, we still haven't seen a direct link substantiated between the white house officials and the and oath kpers w were part ve ty
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ar try rains a part of the investigation. we have shown some links between the president key advisors like roger stone and mike flynn and elements of these white nationalist groups. but that component of our investigation continues and, as is the case more broadly, witnesses continue to come forward. we will be presenting new information in the fall. but as we continue to ask about additional evidence, i think we need to think about what we have demonstrated already about the president's knowledge that the ele wasn't stolen and his response and intent and to me that is most graphically demonstrated when he told top justice department officials basically to say, just say the election was stolen or corrupt and that he would take care of the rest. those kinds of pieces of testimony, they are directly in the president's knowledge an
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intent, and this gets back to the previous question about the justice department. i hope they are watching carefully and i hope they understand the implications of what we're presenting. >> when it comes to implications, your colleague, liz cheney, was on two other networks this morning. she saidou all discussing aottialubpoa r begi tmas who is compared to supreme court justice ja danger of a justice in this political forum. >> there are lines that shouldn't be crossed but those lines involve sitting supreme court justices not presiding or appearing or taking action in cases in which their spouse may be implicated. in this case, for clarence
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thomas to issue a decision in a case, a dissent in a case where congress is trying to get documents and those documents might involve his own wife, that's the line that has been crossed. and i think for agrees to be looking into these issues, looking into conflict of interest issues, but here looking into issues whether it involves the wife of a supreme court justice or anyone else, if they have information or a role to overturn an election, yes, they are not excluded from examination. >> sounds like you are saying you favor that subpoena? >> well, if she has relevant information to our investigation, we hope she comes in voluntarily. but if she doesn't, we should give that serious consideration and, yes, i think those that we decide have important enough information should be subpoenaed. >> liz cheney says the committee expects to hear from tony ornado, that lead secret service agent, and he and another have
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hired private criminal defense counsel. what does that suggest to you? >> well, you know, i think if they are hiring criminal defense counsel, then they probably have a concern about their potential criminal liability. we want to hear from these witnesses. some we want to hear from again. we want to put them under oath if they weren't previously under oath so we can understand what was happening on january 5th and january 6th. and we have profound concerns about what's going on at the secret service. we are now for the first time getting documents that we had requested long, long ago. there is one issue about why they weren't provided earlier. they are also showing new things. and furthermore, we want to obtain those text messages if there is any way to retrieve. we want answers to why those were destroyed. >> all right. we will continue to watch what the committee does when you reconvene in the fall. thank you very much, congressman.
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and for a closer look at what the hearings have revealed about the former president, we are joined by cbs news chief political analyst john dickerson. john, it's good to talk to you. we were side by side just on thursday night during these primetime broadcasts of the hearings. 17 million americans watched them. but this is a political process before congress. it's not a legal one, as we just discussed. how do we start to assess the impact? >> it's good to be with you, margaret. i think the impact of this thursday's hearing was different than the other hearings. when donald trump sometimes boasted about refusing to act as president, the consequences seemed far off. what thursday showed was that most the most direct connection between donald trump choosing not to act as president and the dire consequences of doing so. so as americans watched january 6th most were heartsick. they wished something could be
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done. what could be done? donald trump watched also and he could do something. it was his duty as president to preserve, protect and defend. he did nothing. his family called him and said because of your special connection to the rioters flying your flag, you should do something. he did nothing. so for three hours while he watched what everybody else was watching, he did not respond. and that is the most clear representation of his refusal to do the job and actually doing the job. what was amazing about thursday was not the specific testimony, which was amazing, but that no one can testify that he took actions consistent with his job. not the witnesses who talked about what he didn't do, but that no one can bear witness to him doing the job as commander in chief. >> right. and that was, that inaction was something congressman kinzinger put his finger on. and he was on another network this morning saying that when it comes to the hearings for republicans in general, this doesn't appear to be having a ton of impact. and i thought that was en "the wall street journal"
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editorial page, the "new york post," it drew a lot of attention that they were unusually harsh in their criticism of the former president in the past few days. the journal wrote, characters revealed in a crisis, mr. pence passed his january 6th trial. mr. trump utterly failed his. how do we assess where the conservative movement is on this? >> well, we'll have to see donald trump's reputation is in flux. when we think about the republican party, it's got kind of two challenges. there are a lot of tensions in an election year. two challenges and one thing going well. for donald trump, the challenge is he has been judged by the leaders of his party. mitch mcconnell in the senate, kevin mccarthy in the house, mike pence, as having failed in a fundamental duty of a job. how does a party go forward when most popular leader failed at a core job in a democracy?
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the other challenge is in the movement of people who look what happened on january 6th and think that the rioters didn't go far enough, who have an aptic e and think anything goes if you demonize the other sideepublcs h willause them to push atwater, they have a favorable political viechlt with joe biden's weakness and the party out of power does well in the midterms. all of those things will encourage republicans to leave their problems to the side for the hopes of winning power back. >> what do you think this legacy of trumpism is? does it blow up the system? >> well, the legacy as it's come through these hearings, let's think about what the hearings have lifted and what it means. it kind of goes beyond donald trump. it goes to the two challenges in
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a democracy. one of the things is that people who were challenged and under pressure of the trump administration and donald trump, they did the right thing under pressure. and we've seep that for weeks. the other challenge, though, is the people who knew better and didn't act. which of these two wins out? >> john dickerson, always good to c withouk a moment with more "fthon." with more "fthon." stay with us.ents ar'te all justkiest ? with more "fthon." stay with us.ents (fisher investments) nope. we use diversified strategies to position our client's portfolios for their long-term goals. (other money manager) but you still sell investments that generate high commissions for you, right? (fisher investments) no, we don't sell commission products. we're a fiduciary, obligated to act in our client's best interest. (other money manager) so when do you make more money, only when your clients make more money? (fisher investments) yep. we do better when our clients do better. at fisher investments, we're clearly different.
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♪ i a brutal heatwave is impacting large swaths of the country this weekend. temperatures are expected to break records today in states across the northeast and the middle of the country as cities brace for heat indices of 100 degrees or more. cbs news senior national correspondent mark strassmann is in tampa bay with this report. >> reporter: there is this southern expression, even satan's sweating today. >> it's too hot right now. >> this is hot. this is brutal. >> reporter: better get used tu of triple digiths hat alerts again for more than 80 million americans, for many of them that heat is considered dangerous. places like texas.
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this heatwave feels like a siege. standing next to one of the wildfires burning near fort worth or california near yosemite. more than five dozen communities in 20 states this past week hit record highs. take tampa bay. hit for most of the last week by hot, humid winds off the gulf of mexico. the daily high for the feels-like temperature between 102 and 107. texas and california highs of 115. overheated people in dallas hunted for air conditioning anywhere. libraries seemed cool again. geo scientist blamed inaction on climate change and warned hot house summers are here to stay. >> these are spectacularly tough things and they are only going to get worse unless we tackle the problem with everything we've got. >> reporter: europe's week of heat was historic and deadly. thousands died. most of them elderly.
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wildfires in spain. in the uk, where central air is rare, temperatures reached 36 degrees above normal. portugal's high 117. on both sides of the atlantic people shared triple digit misery and talking about the weather has meant more than making small talk. >> they should take it seriously because heat-related illnesses can be life-threatening. >> that was mark strassmann reporting. we turn to miami mayor francis suarez. he is a republican and the current chairman. u.s. conference of mayors. he joins us from miami. mr. mayor, good to have you with us. you just heard our reporting there. you know, in this 2,000-page report, the u.n. put out earlier in the year, it refers to florida as an example of place where the impacts of climate change are already being felt and it mentions people are likely going to have to move
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away if they live on the coastline. you in your city have had to come up with a strategy and the one released would spend 4 billion, 3.8 billion, the next few decades to build seawalls, take other measu yfford what's coming? ,arre tetical for usn tea ealh d in, day dous amount of resources, em updatek our building codes over decades since 1992 when we had a 2 200 mile per hour event called hurricane andrew. the latest challenge is the water and the heat, as you said in the prior segment, and our citizens approved right after hurricane irma in 2017, which created a four to six foot storm surge in our central business district, a plan called miami forever. and the basis of the plan is to
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spend hundreds of millions of dollars what were voter approved, a voter approved tax and combine with funding sources like the state and federal government to be able to upgrade our infrastructure to deal with the things that are being thrown our way from mother nature. >> when you said you can't afford not to take it seriously, i wonder if you think the national republican party takes the problem of climate change seriously. >> well, what we are seeing at the national level is that the only action that is occurring is action that's taken in a bipartisan basis. the democras, unfortunately, have failed to be able to pass bills to address climate at any sort of scale. so the infrastructure -- >> they don't have any republican votes. they also don't have all democrats onboard but it would help if they had republican votes. >> yeah, exactly. well, i think what it means it has to be bipartisan in terms of outreach, in terms of messaging, which is how they passed the
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$1.2 trillion infrastructure bill with republican votes. and we still haven't seen any funding from that bill, by the way, like i said. we dedicated $200 million in funding from our -- >> why not? >> that's a great question. they have a great infrasructure czar, which is a former mayor of new orleans, who was a president of u.s. conference of mayors who we work with. but we still have not seen a penny of that money trickle down to the cities and we need it because, as i said, we dedicated a couple hundred million dollars. we have 30 or 40 million from the state. we need more than that as you indicated in your comments. >> there was this $2 trillion american rescue plan that passed back in the spring with zero republican votes. florida did benefit. republican governor desantis allocated over 400 million to help coastal communities in florida. so have you gotten that money in
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your hand? and how much more do you need exactly? >> yes, we have. actually, the american rescue plan, it's coming in two tranches. 950 billion last year, 950 billion this year. we have allocated it effectively. and we are trying to leverage the money that we have to do things like, you know, increasing our seawalls, tidal valves that prevent black know of water in our city in storm events, pump stations, we have built more and plan to build more. we are addressing the issue head on. and certainly the funding that we're going to be receiving from the state and from the federal government, hopefully, eventually from the infrastructure bill is critically needed for us to be able to tackle this problem and make sure we have miami forever. >> we mentioned you are registered republican. mayor of the second largest city in florida. when you were on this program in january, you told me that you
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had repeatedly reached out to your governor, fellow republican, to talk to him about health precautions you wanted to take in miami, but you had no contact. no outreach. and i wonder what you think that says about ron desantis' executive leadership in a time of crisis? >> you know, we are different. we have different perspectives and different personalities and different philosophies in terms of our leadership style. i lead like you said the largest, arguably, the largest urban city in the state and his mandate is significantly greater in terms of number, but it's also very different in terms of cities in rural areas. >> does he talk to you now? does he talk to the mayor of the second largest city in the state? >> we have spoken. one of the ones we spoke about recently happened to be about resiliency. the state did give us about $40 million that we combined
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with the $200 million and we did a press conference together in broward county. i have to say his record over the last four years, including the legislature's record, has been very much pro environment and something he and i share. >> what about on issues of health? when it comes to covid, florida's response has been heavily scrutinized. monkeypox right now, florida has the third highest case count of any state in the country. are you in miami getting the vaccines you need? are you getting the tests you need? has that part of the health rollout working with the state been smooth? >> we are monitoring this outbreak as you mentioned. i am not aware of any shortages in vaccines or testing at this particular juncture. none of it has been, you know, come to my attention. certainly we'll work with the state and certainly we'll work with the federal government to make sure that our city is protected and that those here get the necessary testing and vaccination to protect themselves against the monkeypox virus. >> all right. mayor suarez, thank you for your time today.
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today marks five months since russia launched a full-scale bar war on ukraine. it cost tens of thousands of lives and roiled the global economy. for a look at where the fight stands we are joined by ukraine' ambassador to the united states, oksana markarova. good to have you back on the program. >> good morning and thank you for having me. >> i want to ask you about what happened in the past 24 to 48 hours. there has an estimated 20 million metric tons of grain stuck in ukraine, can't get out. this is contributing to food inflation and food shortages around the world. so less than 24 hours after signing this u.n. brokeered deal to allow ukraine's grain to export, russia sent missiles into the odesa port city where that grain would be transiting. >> this is what the state department says. your government said it's like
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spit in the face, sticking with the deal? why? >> well, what happened in the port is so russian and it's very telling about what has been happening for the past eight years. for the past eight years, ukraine always acted in good faith and tried everything possible and sometimes impossible to end the war and to return our sovereignty. similar was this 151 days. we are defending, we are standing strong in defending our country. at the same time, westerliel we will find any options in order to resolve the crisis. like this food crisis russia created for other countries, not only for ukraine. we will do everything in order to perform and fulfill our part of the deal. when russia is violating it, they are clearly showing who they are and that they need to be stopped. >> so is russia technically violating it? because unnamed u.n. officials are quoted as saying they may not have because russia never pledged to avoid attacking the
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parts of the ukrainian ports that are not directly used for grain exports. really? that seems like a pretty big oversight. >> well, let's yocall it what i is. everything russia is doing in ukraine is a violation of pretty much every international law. attacking a sovereign country is a violation, a war crime. we have the deal with u.n. and from turkey. we are fulfilling the deal. they agreed also with russia and they have to first stop the war, you know, and they have to do everything without even any initiating signs. but with this, i think they are showing their true face again. so the good response to that should be more weapons to ukraine so we can defend ourselves, we can get them out from our country, and we can unblock our ports and unblock all ukraine in order not only to ship the grain, but the sunflower and everything else that is stuck in ukraine. >> that impact your baby
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formula, foodstuffs for everything. does this attack make that food crisis worse? will this hurt your ability to export what little is getting out? >> we will do everything possible. we are exporting through the western border, of course, the capacity through land, through railroads, through all possible ways. and we will continue doing so. our farmers are even planting and harvesting under the fire. so we will, as we defend the country, we will continue also to rebuild at the same time and plant and do everything possible to feed us and feed the world. hopefully, and we see already good results of the new artillery being provided to us, that will allow us to go on the counter to offensive and free our territory, which we need to do not only for grain, but also to save our people. >> so your first lady was here in washington and addressed congress and specifically asked for air defense systems. we know the u.s. has pledged to
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send national advance surface-to-air missile systems but they haven't arrived in ukraine yet. is that what she is referring to and what specifically are you asking for? >> yes, very effective visit of the first lady and her message why russia kills, america saves i think have been heard by everyone here. and, yes, we are talking about the defense systems. we are also talk aing about mor firepower, more artillery, more himars, which just left friday. >> precision gun rockets? >> exactly. and we already see that with that equipment, that is very effectively used by our defenders. we are able to destroy the -- that russia is creating on the uncontrolled territories and we are moving into territories in the south and, hopefully, with sufficient number of weapons we can do the same in the east. but the situation remains very,
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very difficult still. >> it is. and we know now u.s. intelligence says russia controls about 20%. >> that is correct. >> of ukraine. i want to make sure i bring this up with you because it was so deeply disturbing when i heard it. a state department official, ambassador newland, said russia makes orphans and then steals orphans. up to 1,000 ukrainian children have been stolen and given to russian families. what exactly is happening? what can the u.s. government or the american people do about it? >> it has been one of the key pleas of the first lady here on all uncontrolled territories from mariupol to other places, russia is forcefully deporting not only adults and families, but specifically children. and russians themselves already admitted that 350,000 children have been evacuated, as they say, but kidnapped. let's call it what it is, to russia.
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they have relaxed their own legislation in order to allow them to be adopted quickly into russian families. this is a brutal violation not only of international how can you stealren and try to hide them somewhere in russia? only 47 children we were able to return to ukraine right now. and as of august 1, ukraine will be starting a platform, children at war, which will allow people throughout the globe, including russia, to add information about all the children. it's our first priority to locate, find them and return them. and it's very difficult because we don't have control over this territory. >> and do you have any hope you can actually return these children without the united states or other countries getting involved? >> we need everyone who can to get involved. and i can assure you that everyone in ukraine will not rest until all of them are
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commerce secretary gina raimondo. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> so you have been making this big push for this chips bill that would direct about 50 billion towards the semiconductor industry, computer chips and phones and basically everything. the bill now has about $200 billion in additional spending which i understand you would play a role in helping to dole out in some way. for people at home, why should u.s. taxpayers subsidize a profitable industry? >> right now we are dangerously dependent on other countries, mostly in asia, for our supply of semiconductor. we don't make any leading-edge semiconductors in the united states. those are the sophisticated chips for military equipment and high-end computing. we buy almost all of them from taiwan. the reality is we need companies to expand in america and other countries around the world are
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providing incentives. >> doesn't rolling out state subsidies of private industry create a dangerous precedent, or are you arguing we need to think of vital trees as partially state funded or subsidized? >> i am saying this a matter of national security and i don't think we can put a price tag on it because we are in a very vulnerable spot. if you talk to the military experts or the national defense contractors, you know, they'll tell you they need chips. there is 250 chips in a javelin launching system, and that's not as sophisticated as some of the new equipment. >> there is a long list of things congress needs to get done in a short period of time. are you confident the votes are actually there to get this passed? >> yes, i am. >> 16 republicans voted to moving along with this. it's still not done. it's being tweaked. i want to ask about some. things proposed.
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you have skeptics on both the right and the left for this, right? bernie sanders has said he doesn't like it. it's a blank check to profitable companies. rick scott of florida, republican, has compared it to corporate welfare. a former labor secretary from the clinton administration called it pure extortion. that doesn't sound like this is truly bipartisan as you called it. this sounds like this is fairly controversial. >> no, i don't think so. it's clearly bipartisan. you don't get 64 votes in the senate every day, right? >> on this final bill, you think, despite these detractors -- >> this will be a big bipartisan vote in the house and the senate, yes. i believe so. now, also i fully dispute senator sanders' characterization of this. it isn't a blank check. there are many strings attached. strings attached, companies can't use this money to build facilities in other countries. companies who accept this money
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can't then turn around and be building facilities in china for leading-edge tech knowledge. there is a lot of strings attached around, you know, the qual of jobs that have to be created, working with small contractors and minority-owned contractors. there are labor protections. to say it's a blank check is just dead wrong. >> are those sufficient though? you have marco rubio of florida coming out and arguing high-tech chip production should be further, sort of restricted here on the national security portion. he says that corporations that receive the funding cannot expand chip production in china but there are some things grandfathered in that are loopholes here. are there other places that you need to tightenicte port restri example? >> we always have to be looking at our export controls. i would say i feel very comfortable about this bill. it protects national security and protects taxpayers. also, as written, there are
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taxpayer protections. it will be a competitive transparent process and there is a claw back provision. if we give the money to companies and they do what they are not supposed to, we will take the money back. i feel confident around the taxpayer protections and china guardrails. >> other industries as well? >> absolutely. we have to do everything we can to make sure that our leading-edge technology, whether it's in chips or artificial intelligence or other areas, can't get into the hands of the chinese. >> you are open to further export restrictions? >> yes. >> on taiwan, embedded is the asefrms that taiwan is at risk of annexation by china, how confident are you when you get briefed by u.s. intelligence that this is an immediate threat? >> i feel confident in saying it's not immediate and i feel also confident in saying that there is no crystal ball. but we need to be prepared. that's our job, to protect the american people. >> has inflation peaked? >> i think probably. but, look, if i had said that
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year ago, you know, assuming another war doesn't break out, assuming we don't have another covid, assuming -- there is so much out of our control. inflation is being -- inflation a global problem. >> i want to ask you as well about climate. noaa is ununder your purview. the climate agenda under the administration is completely stalled. is the fact that you have been unable to unstick that climate agenda but moved this far with chips, does it signal to you that you need to make private industry a partner in this? >> i would say yes, but much of business is onboard. like let's be honest with ourselves. climate-related events are more frequent, more dangerous, and more expensive than they have ever been. so do we need to do more to get business onboard? maybe. and it's, you know, something we are always wondering, how do we get things done in this divided
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