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bucha, 20 miles from kyiv, was a modern suburb of 37,000 with big-box stores and department blocks. but after the russian invasion, 458 of its residents died, including 86 women, and nine children. >> they were my happiness, he told us. they were my everything. i wish i could bring everything back. this is the largest crop of off-shore wind turbines in the
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this weekend, russia continued its campaign of airstrikes against ukrainian cities. but, on the battlefield, russian troops fell back revealing new horrors of the occupation. we first saw this in april, when russia abandoned its assault on the capital, kyiv. in a suburb called bucha, we found a civilian massacre with a mass grave behind st. andrew's orthodox church.
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the grave was filled with sand, humanity, and mystery. we wondered, who was buried there? what lives had they lived? we promised ourselves, then, that we would return to tell the stories of the lost souls of bucha. at st. andrew's church, in the days before orthodox easter, 116 souls rose from the grave. the town of bucha was excavating the trench to rebury each victim with respect and with their name. photos of the dead were posted online, dna was taken. and families grieved to learn the fate of the missing. inside st. andrew's was illuminated by prayer, and last month, we asked some of the families to join us there to introduce us to the ones they loved.
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my father viktor worked as a set designer for tv studios, dmytro kozyarevich told us. he identified his father and his mother, nadiya, from photos of the dead. she was very kind, and i feel her absence very much. >> viktor was 75. nadiya was 65. they were in their apartment, minding their own business. and i wonder if you know how they died. >> translator: according to what our neighbors told us, there was a tank 120 yards away. perhaps someone inside the tank just had the urge to shoot at something, so they chose this building. my mother died from the blast wave.
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my father died, crushed by pieces of the brick wall. >> mr. and mrs. kozyarevich, married 43 years, were found, days later, in their apartment. atrocities, like theirs, were what we saw in april, the senseless slaughter of civilians. bucha, 20 miles from kyiv, was a modern suburb of 37,000, with big box stores and apartment blocks. but over 27 days in march its people suffered a distinct kind of cruelty, the cruelty inflicted by soldiers facing defeat. 458 were killed, their forsaken bodies calling out to serhii kaplychnyi, the bucha city official in charge of burials. there were bodies just lying in the streets, he told us. we understood that they must be
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buried, but we didn't know how to go about it. the russians had left them where they fell, on the street, at their own homes. serhii kaplychnyi had to negotiate with the russians for permission to gather them. we spoke with him and the men who worked with him, serhii matiuk and vladyslav minchenko. i imagine that a mass grave was the last thing you wanted. why was it necessary? >> translator: there was no more room in the morgue. >> translator: we were just placing bodies near the morgue because we had no idea what to do anymore. >> serhii, where were you finding bodies around town, and what kind of condition were they in? >> translator: with a lot of the bodies, it was obvious it was the work of a sniper because they were shot in the head. >> serhii matiuk told us, some were riding their bicycle, some were bringing firewood in their car, loaded in their car.
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remember, we picked up that man and woman? they had just loaded firewood into their car and were bringing it back to heat their home. they were shot. >> was it possible for you to determine how these people had been killed? vladyslav minchenko said, most often they shot people in the back. those who were killed walking down the road, they were shot in the back. the people we gathered from the basements, they were all shot in the back. people were on their knees, blindfolded. matiuk added, the people who were tied up, they were tortured. they were shot, first in a leg or arm, and then the finishing shot was to the head. >> the russians were killing too many too fast. there was no electricity for refrigeration. a temporary mass grave was inevitable. kaplychnyi's only choice in the
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matter was to dig it in the shadow of god. >> none of them deserved to die this way, minchenko told us. esthg. theay they died, eir dehs, thpeill never be forgotten. their names, their faces. let people remember and know that this was done by russia. for what? for nothing. >> most of those killed for nothing were men, but there were also 86 women and nine children. some, hands tied, were executed. elena rubailo's husband was discovered in the mass grave. >> he laid in the street for a week and a half until they picked him up and brought him to
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the mass grave. he'd been shot in the head, she told us. >> volodymyr rubailo was 70. his body was found near a store where he shopped. but like nearly all of the bereaved, elena has no idea why he was killed. >> translator: this year would have been our 50th wedding anniversary, but he didn't quite live to see it. we loved each other very much. we had two children, two girls. >> volodymyr retired from a forest management company. he stayed in bucha to watch their home while she sheltered on the edge of town. there were 21 people in the basement, she told us. nine children and 12 adults. we took the neighbors into the basement, too. one of our neighbors was shot, march 4th. he walked out of his gate and he was killed. and a little further up, that
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same street, a son was driving to his parent's home. he was 10 yards away, him and his girlfriend and a friend, and they were all shot in their car. that poor mother, dragging her own son in the door and burying all of them in the garden. just horrible. >> what does volodymyr's death tell us about this war? >> translator: this war is terrible. these aren't humans. could humans rlly do this? just come in and kill people. a person just walking down the street. how? i don't know. this is a terrible war. i pray for our ukraine everyday, for our soldiers. my heart hurts everyday when i hear and see this ruin, these rockets flying. so many children have died.
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so many women, young girls. my heart hurts. my heart really hurts. >> in bucha, heart ache is part of being. father andre, the priest of st. andrews told us -- >> translator: since the occupation, i've had to bury more than 200 people. >> and you have buried people who have no name? >> translator: out of the people whom i buried, 75 had not been identified. >> how do you say a funeral mass for someone who has no name? >> translator: god knows each person's name. he does not distinguish people by whether they are living or dead. for him, everyone is alive. as christians, we believe in resurrection after death. that's why for god, there is no difference. >> of all the bereaved who met us at st. andrew's, none lost
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more than oleksandr chikmariov. >> translator: they were my happiness, he told us. they were my everything. i wish i could bring everything back. >> chikmariov and his wife rita tried to flee the shelling of bucha. in their car, with their sons, 9-year-old matviy and 4-year-old klym, they came across a russian armored vehicle. >> translator: we stopped. rita yelled for me to make a u-turn and drive back. i heard shots. i turned to the backseat, and rita shouted, "i'm hit!"
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rita and my children were dead. i was in such shock, i didn't notice that my leg was only hanging on by a piece of skin. i didn't even feel the pain. i got down behind the car, and then the car burst into flames. >> oleksandr chikmariov was rescued by firemen and watched his family burn. he wanted us to see his family so he led us, on his artificial leg, across the street from st. andrew's. their home happened to be next to the makeshift cemetery where his family was first laid to rest. remembering lives like these,
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lost to the russian invasion is the reason we returned to bucha. what would you like the world to remember about them? >> translator: for the world to remember? so much joy. such a thirst for life. why did he have to die? why did he have to die? for what? it doesn't make any sense. why? it doesn't make any sense in any world to kill them. why? what was he killed for? how can i go on living? just to keep crying, and keep breathing? what should i do? what else can i do? he's not here anymore, i cannot hug him, i cannot kiss him, i cannot do anything. they were the meaning of my life. how can i live with this?
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how? just hold on and endure? to just endure, to fight everything inside of myself? what should i do next? i don't know how to live. >> i am so very sorry. bucha is learning how to live again. in the fresh earth of the city cemetery, bodies from the mass grave have been laid to rest with dignity. but about 50 remain unidentified. this marker reads, "here lies number 282, remember forever." the city says it will work forever to replace each number with a name. the bereaved will know what lives were lost but never the reason why. what bucha's gravediggers thought as they buried their murdered neighbors. at 60minutesovertime.com, sponsored by pfizer. peaceful state.
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this past august, president biden signed a sweeping climate bill into law, making wind power a priority. specifically, offshore wind power. the goal is to capture the force of the wind in the open seas and convert it to power 10 million american homes by 2030. we have a long way to go. there are only seven offshore wind turbines off the coast of the united states compared to nearly 6,000 in europe. critics say they are expensive to build and maintain, unpredictable and ugly. we wanted to see for ourselves. so, we went to the largest offshore wind farm in the world, along the northeast coast of england to discover the power of grimsby. as you fly 200 miles north of london, along the coast, you can see the town of grimsby below.
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55 miles east of her port. >> we are on our way to the hornsea wind park, film crew on board. >> you can't miss them. elegant and a little eerie, white giants poking out of the north sea like something out of a science fiction novel. >> this is the largest crop of offshore wind turbines in the world, known as the hornsea wind farm. it is hypnotizing. more than 300 turbines spread across 335 square miles generate enough electricity to help power more than 2 million homes a day. >> beautiful day. >> yeah, beautiful day. >> to understand the power, size and upkeep of this evolving technology, we geared up on land and traveled 90 minutes on the heaving north sea with 24-year-old bridie salmon. her job is to scale and service the turbines. my job, with the help of a little antinausea gum, was to
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simply hold down my lunch. >> this is choppy out here. >> yeah, it is. how are you feeling? >> i feel okay. it's more important, how do you feel? >> yeah, i'm doing good. like i say, i'd like to think i've got my sea legs on. >> when your last ame is salmon, negotiating rough waters is sort of in your dna. bridie's great-grandfather worked on the grimsby docks. her dad owns this 100-year-old smoked fish shop in town. bridie was bartending when she decided to apply to an apprentice program to be a turbine technician. she was one of seven people selected from a pool of 500. the apprentice program combines classroom instruction with hands-on work at sea. but we soon learned that mother nature is a temperamental teacher. >> the weather here is ever-changing. >> yeah, yeah. we're holding on for our dear lives. yeah, i mean, and it is the north sea. this is not something we can control.
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so every day is different. and it can change like that. so it's just part and parcel of the job. anything to get these things turning. this is the environment for wind turbines. it's got to be windy. >> as we approached the turbines, we suddenly felt small. >> you don't get a sense of how large things are until you're right up under them. >> yeah, well, that's it. so at very top, the nacelle, all the way to the top of the blades is half the size of the eiffel tower, which is pretty massive. and because you've got nothing normal to compare it to like a building, you just see these in the distance. and then you're here. and it's -- yeah, they're pretty bloody huge. >> translation, they're nearly 600 feet high with spinning fiberglass blades roughly the length of the world's largest passenger jet. each blade weighs almost 30 tons. the turbines are partially assembled on shore, then shipped out to sea where each blade is
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attached with surgical precision to the top of the turbine. every angle has to be perfect to generate maximum power. once installed, keeping them spinning is critical. offshore wind engineers say one revolution can power one home in the uk for 24 hours. and that's where bridie comes in. >> it's raining, it's windy. >> can't wait. just another day at the office! >> in choppy waters, captain peter broughton has to find the sweet spot, maintaining constant contact between the bow and base. some days the winds are so high and seas so rough, the job can't be done. on this day, success. bridie harnesses herself to a cable, leaps to a ladder, and begins the climb rung by rung,
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eight stories to the top. on a narrow platform hanging over the north sea, she makes her rounds, carefully inspecting and servicing the turbine. a job not for the faint of heart. >> what was that like the first time you made that climb? >> oh, exhausting, exhausting. because you've got all your safety kit on as well, so you've probably got about 10 kilograms of harnesses and claws, and you've got to be clipped in, so you've got that friction of climbing. >> i imagine it would be kind of scary. >> yeah, really scary. i remember there was one day it was super windy. so we were up there. and the top of the tower is moving. so you've got the seasickness, the motion sickness from the sea, and then the top of the tower's moving. so all day you're rocking. and it was cold and windy, and i remember coming back onshore, and i was just rocking. i was, like, "i'm on land now, i don't need to rock." but it's -- yeah, it's pretty scary. >> benj sykes says those kinds of extraordinary efforts are
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needed in extraordinary times. sykes is the vice president of offshore wind at orsted, a danish-based global energy supplier that runs the hornsea wind farm. >> you know we have a cost of energy crisis in europe and in britain at the moment. that's driven by the pandemic but also of course by the terrible situation in ukraine. and all of that adds up to a real drive to find clean, cheap energy solutions. >> about five years ago, orsted decided to sell off its oil and gas business and focus on renewable energies. grimsby, a depressed fishing town, became the unlikely backdrop to europe's clean energy movement. >> why here? why grimsby? >> it's got a good port. and it's geographically really well located. physically in terms of the water depth, in terms of the wind resource and of course places to connect to the national grid so that we can get that power to homes and businesses. >> long before russia's invasion
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of ukraine set off the energy crisis, the uk had a strategy to use 100% clean or renewable electricity by 2035. >> when you talk about clean energy, you talk about solar, hydropower, bio fuels. what makes offshore wind unique? >> offshore wind is really the only project in most countries where you can build it at the kind of power-station scale that we need. if i think about the projects we're building here in the uk, that's almost 3 gigawatts. that's, broadly speaking, the output of a nuclear power station. so, we're talking large-scale infrastructure projects. most of europe is too populated to fit very, very large wind farms or solar farms. so that's why we've gone offshore. >> one big criticism is cost. they're expensive to construct, to transmit and to decommission. is that cost passed on to consumers? >> so that's simply wrong. offshore wind power is one of the cheapest forms of electricity generation in the uk. we privately fund it together with investment partners that we
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bring in. >> privately, you fund that? >> yeah. there's no public exposure to the costs of building offshore wind. and i think the thing that has made the most difference is the fact that we've had political consensus now for more than a decade, and that's given investors confidence to step in and put the big money on the table to get these projects away. >> gas and nuclear still make up a majority of the power supply flowing into uk homes and businesses. but this year 13% of brita gyom offshornd. hereow it s.s ar er thhe in s rato energy then travels down, going 300 feet beneath the water's surface to cables buried under the seabed, connecting to an offshore substation. then, to a power station on land
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where that electricity created out at sea is transferred into homes and businesses, inviting the question, what happens if the wind stops blowing? >> using satellites and other technology, we can predict extremely accurately how much we're going to generate over the next days which enables those who operate the grid to make very clear plans about where demand is going, where supply is going. i mean, if i look at the turbines that we have got out at hornsea, they are operating 98-99% of the time. >> this is grimsby's second act. through the 1950s to 1970, the town hosted the largest fishing fleet in the world, with 700 trawlers, awash in cash and a port fit for a visit from the queen. >> it was absolutely brilliant the camaraderie of it because you can say nearly 100% of the population would be associated with the fishing industry in some way. >> dennis avery and bob formby
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were part of the town's fishing tradition. >> what was it like? >> it's a tough job. it's work from sailing till you get back in the port again. working in the winter around iceland and them places was pretty severe. but it's the kind of job that i would do again tomorrow. >> in those days you had two choices, you worked on the docks or you went to sea. >> the decker navigator. >> avery captained this hulking steel fishing trawler, the ross tiger for eight years. >> if you caught a good trip, and you steam back to grimsby with a fish room full of fish, you know it's a marvelous feeling. >> that marvelous feeling ended when iceland, britain's neighbor to the north, began enforcing fishing restrictions in their cod-rich waters. >> what did you see happen in town when that happened? >> gosh. it was a disaster, to be quite honest. because everybody was involved some way in fishing.
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like taxi drivers, the pubs, the dress shops, and places like that, they all suffered. >> once the fishing sorta went, it all sorta died a death. >> wind power has breathed new life into grimsby. offshore energy company orsted says it has created over 500 jobs here and invested $11 billion in local wind farms. but there are plenty of people who worry the environmental impact of the wind turbines hasn't been sufficiently studied, and others say the industry has not created the number of jobs they have promised, but the concern of these retired fishermen is more practical. >> we're not seeing benefits. >> your electricity bill hasn't gone down? >> no. it's gone up, if anything. when they said about them how, "oh, we're going to get cheap electricity and it's going to be green and everything." but i can't see any benefits to be quite honest.
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>> has your electricity gone down? >> try double, it's doubled. >> there are people who have said, yeah, we've got all these turbines. but our electricity bill hasn't gone down a cent. >> yeah, it's a real challenge. it's going to take time. because we need to build more offshore wind. >> so you think if there's more offshore wind, prices could go down? >> yeah, absolutely. >> fearing the war in ukraine could lead to blackouts this winter, the uk government announced more drilling for oil and gas in the north sea. they will also speed up the time it takes for new offshore wind projects to get online. benj sykes told us that over the next eight years orsted plans to invest another $17 billion in wind farms and add more than 300 jobs in grimsby. >> you know the fishing industry was fantastic for grimsby. that era has passed. what we want to do is be a part of creating the next chapter of grimsby's life and of the country's life as we build out. >> a chapter bridie salmon is very much a part of.
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>> so that's gone from grimsby, being the fishing town, to the powerhouse of the north, which is an amazing transition. >> proud of it? >> so proud of it. and to be a part of it is amazing. >> a town's future and fortune, once again tied to the sea. numbers move you. but some can stop you in your tracks. like the tens of thousands of people who were diagnosed with certain hpv-related cancers. for most people, hpv clears on its own.
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his personality as flamboyant as his football talent, deion sanders had two nicknames during his hall of fame nfl career: he was "neon deion" and "prime time." but for his latest gig, sanders high stepped it to mississippi. and, at age 55, he is now the head football coach at jackson
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state, an historically black university or hbcu. sanders' salary of $500,000 is less than 5% of what, one state over, alabama pays its coach, nik saban. yet, jackson state might be the hottest program in america, poaching talented recruits and winning games in equal measure, powered by, yes, the style, but also the substance of the man who now calls himself coach prime. >> fans, welcome your defending swac champion! >> deion sanders had never coached in college when he agreed two years ago to try and rescue jackson state from football irrelevance. >> why are you here? >> i truly believe with all my heart and soul that god called me collect -- and i had to accept the charges. >> you picked up, you accepted the charges. >> i had to accept the charges. but understanding when you accept those type of charges, it's going to cost you something. >> what's it cost you?
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>> a lot of sleep. but i can't say i don't love it. i love every darn minute of it. >> it doesn't hurt that his team is durn good. the jackson state tigers are blazing through their hbcu football opponents: 11-2 last season, undefeated so far this season. >> everybody do your jobs! just do your jobs! >> watch the tigers rack up points, led by deion's son, quarterback shedeur sanders, and you wonder how they'd fare against the football elites, the so-called power five schools. >> switch! >> sanders took the job at jackson state three months after george floyd's murder, timing, he says, that was no coincidence. >> it was relevant because a lot of folks sit back on them, with twitter fingers and talk about what they gonna do. and i wanted to go do it. >> do what? >> change lives. change the perspective of, of hbcu football. make everyone step up to the plate and do what's right by
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these kids. >> ashley robinson, jackson state's athletic director, pursued rumors that sanders might be interested in coaching, and offered him a job. >> what's been the impact here at jackson state since he's arrived? >> coach prime was the biggest hire in college football. i'm talking about power five level. he's the biggest hire in college football. >> all of college football? >> all of college football, it's no, it's no other deion sanders. >> what's deion sanders worth to jackson state? >> hoo! i don't think i could put a number on that. i don't think it's enough zeros. i mean, he's worth a lot. >> the bump in attendance, buzz and commerce is especially welcome in a city marked by poverty, deprivation that can be glimpsed just on the other side of the fence from the jsu football facility. the program was depressed as well. jackson state produced four hall of fame nfl players, including running back walter payton. but when sanders arrived, not one jackson state player had been drafted in 12 years. >> what struck you about being here on this campus?
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>> the need. >> what kind of needs are you sensing here? >> you want to start in alphabetical order or numerical? [ laughter ] >> sanders was immediately confronted with the economic realities of hbcus, and with the social cleavages of mississippi. >> what were the facilities like? [ laughter ] horrible. and i'm sitting up here thinking, even to this day, how can a public high school in texas look better than a college? >> football facilities where you lived in texas were better than this? >> school. forget the durn football facility. the whole durn school. that, that shouldn't be right. >> jackson state's old practice field was so shabby, when it rained the tigers had to bus to a local high school, coach prime reached out not to a wealthy booster, but to walmart, which built jackson state a brand-new practice field. next he had a new locker room built. the attention sanders has
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brought to hbcu football has translated into a revenue spike for his league, the southwestern athletic conference. dr. charles mcclelland is the conference commissioner. >> did you expect him to have this kind of impact on hbcus when he came to jackson state? >> i did not, and i often say this. i've been around stars before. this is the first time that i've been around a super star. and i really didn't realize the difference. >> what do you mean by that? >> well, you know, a super star can enter any room, can enter any board room. coach prime is a businessperson. coach prime has opened up doors for the southwestern athletic conference that we could not get into. >> pepsi, american airlines, procter & gamble all are new sponsors of jackson state or the conference. call it the prime effect, but for all the flash, sanders is defiantly old school, even by
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football standards. what other head coach brings his own lawn mower to the practice facility? >> i may tell you once, you know that grass needs to be cut on thursday. okay? now if you don't cut it, i'm going to go do it. >> that's you in a nutshell right there. >> i -- i can't -- it's unfathomable to me to understand that you don't want to do your job and you getting compensated for it. that's not the generation i came from. >> we don't have water, therefore we don't have ice. >> also unfathomable to sanders, how the city of jackson hasn't been able to provide clean water consistently or sometimes any water at all, at one point a documentary team caught him bathing out of necessity in a hotel swimming pool near the stadium. >> the water crisis here was a national story. tell me specifically how that impacted your program these last few months. >> forget our program. it impacted the whole durn city. i'm not into politics, but i am into people. and i just feel as though our people should be taken care of a lot better. >> just to be clear, in
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wealthier areas they did all right with their water. i wonder if there isn't some parallels between hbcus and resources. >> shoot, you know darn well there's a parallel with hbcus and resources. underserved and overlooked. >> what do you do about that? >> you're here, that's what i do about that. >> as if the water crisis weren't enough, last season sanders was hospitalized with life-threatening blood clots that had formed in his leg. did you have any idea at the time how serious this was? >> no, none whatsoever. >> sanders had to endure nine surgeries. two of his toes were amputated, a chunk of his leg was removed. he spent 23 days in the hospital, and when he returned to his team, he needed help moving around. >> everything is going good, man. >> twice a day, his damaged leg is rubbed to get the blood flowing. a towering athlete in american sports, who once darted and dashed into the end zone, who played in two super bowls and one world series, we didn't mention that? yeah, he played major league
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baseball, too. that man may never run again. >> i had my turn. now i'm helping someone else dominate theirs. >> though sanders now limps noticeably and struggles to stand for an entire practice, his ambition persists. >> full speed by the ball. do not stop until you hear this whistle. >> the entrenched college football powers are getting nervous. it's one thing for sanders to recruit his sons, shilo, a defensive back, and shedeur, the star quarterback. >> chuck me out, mom. throw me that hat. >> but heads really swivelled last winter when travis hunter, considered the top-ranked recruit in the country, switched his commitment to jackson state from florida state where, ironically, sanders starred in the 1980s. >> what changed your mind? >> uh, coach prime. he just let me know how big of an impact i can have on the people, and that's one of the things i wanted to do. i wanted to shine a light on our people and shine a light on hbcus. >> "our people," you mean? >> yeah, african americans. >> what he was going to do was normal. that's been done.
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big-time recruit going to be a big-time school. but a big-time recruit chooses to go to jackson state? oh, that changes the trajectory of so many other kids. now they're saying, hmm, if it's good enough for travis to go there and play, it may be good enough for me. so that's a game-changing decision that he made for so many. >> disruption? >> that's it.>> there is an uer aferan, get a taste of the full hbcu football experience, in stadiums packed with people who look like them, it could be a powerful pull. just listen to shedeur, deion's son, immediately after a lopsided home win last month. >> tens of thousands of fans, tailgate, band. what's it like playing a home game like this? >> man, it's amazing. you see, you see all these people, it's just real love there. just playing at home, in jackson, they needed us to pull it through.
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>> hbcus are starting to think big and dream big. >> you were a good high school football player. you said you -- >> i was a great high school player. >> you were a great high school football player. you said you weren't, weren't considering hbcus. >> they never recruited me. that's why i never considered hbcu. hbcus just started recruiting the four- and five-star players just recently because they never thought they could get them. now, they believe. >> but can hbcus compete with schools where players' lockers are designed like first-class airplane cabins, and rehab facilities feature underwater treadmills? >> kid gets hurt here, there's no hydrotherapy pool? >> no. you better get in the pool with a fan and that's about it. >> that -- that's how you do hydrotherapy here? >> that's about it. >> put a little fan in there with a little battery. hope you don't get electrocuted. >> jsu's entire football budget is only $4 million. >> ohio state, alabama, 15 times that.
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>> yeah. and we came down to the final two, us and alabama for this big lineman that we almost had a few days ago. >> how does that make you feel? >> it makes me feel good because we were right there neck to neck with alabama. and we broke. [ laughter ] so, so what if -- so what if -- and i'm hoping a political figure or someone, some billionaire out there saying, you know what? i'm going to bet on prime, man. let me go help that program, because i just want to see what it would be like if he had the resources these other schools would have. >> the cinematic version of the story has coach prime sticking it out at jackson state, as the program grows on par with those of the power five. the reality, it may not be long before he takes his gold whistle to a school that doesn't need to beg for resources. >> what happens when a power five school says give us a number, we'll make it work? >> i'm going to have to entertain it. >> you are? >> yes.
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i'm going to have to entertain it, straight up. i would be a fool not to. >> sanders says he needs to look after his assistants who are wildly underpaid by college football standards. >> sanders has ruled out one bigger leap. >> you don't want to coach in the nfl? >> not one bit. >> why not? >> it's hard for me to coach a person that makes a lot of money that does not truly love the game that blessed me. and i don't want to go to jail. [ laughter ] >> what would you go to jail for? >> because i'm going to jump on somebody. [ laughter ] i will come out at halftime with half the team. >> it's that offensive to you? >> we're going -- we'll go in and half the team will come back out at halftime. yeah. >> if you had a bunch of guys doggin' it, it's that offensive to you? >> i couldn't do it. i just challenged a walk-on. i said, dude, you're a walk-on. you're supposed to be trying to get my attention and you chilling? i say, you're going to be a walk-off if you do that one more time. not a walk-on. you'll be a walk-off. >> what's the significance of winning to deion sanders?
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let's just say vince lombardi never put it quite like this. >> i got to win in every facet of life. that's what winning is. and we -- that's our natural odor. we don't even use cologne. baby be a winner. we smell like winning around here. when you saw us on the practice field, you walked and you -- when we first met, you you could feel that you shook the hand of a winner. you felt that. i know darn well you had to call somebody, say, hey, man, i just met coach prime, baby. something about him. he's magnetic. i'm going to win. but not only win, i'm going to dominate. that's what i do. that's who i am. cbs sports hq is presented by progressive insurance. i'm james brown with the score from the nfl today. yes, they are called the bills, but that team full of dogs got the dub.
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