please join us when our trumpet sounds again next "sunday morning." i'm margaret brennan in washington and this week on "face the nation," with just 15 days to go until midterm election day, both sides are making their closing arguments about why they deserve your vote. campaign '22 is hitting the home stretch now with democrats facing economic headwinds. is president biden a drag on some democratic tickets? house speaker nancy pelosi will be here. plus, we'll talk with the administration's senior energy security adviser, amos hochstein, about those stu stubbornly high gas prices. then we'll look at the surge of respiratory virus cases affecting the very young with commission dr. scott gottlieb and we'll get more on miss

information and election security with kara swisher and chris krebs. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ good morning and welcome to "face the nation." on this last full week in october, polls continue to show incredibly tight races across the country. can democrats revive their stalled momentum and get their supporters to the polls, or will republicans take control of the house and possibly the senate? president biden has been on the campaign trail in pennsylvania telling reporters, it ain't over till it's over, quoting yogi berra, of course. ed o'keefe reports. >> reporter: from pennsylvania -- >> dr. oz celebrated with roe v.

wade. ♪ got to have a friend in jesus ♪ >> reporter: to arizona. >> hello, arizona! >> reporter: democratic and republican candidates are making their final push. >> this is an attack on the very right to vote. >> reporter: republicans are sticking to a message focused on the economy and crime. >> this is an economic and health crisis. a doctor can help fix it. i'll keep us safe, cut your taxes and protect our jobs. >> you think you and your family deserve better than open borders and fentanyl and double digit crime increases? >> reporter: while many democrats believe a focus on abortion rights will help bring out their base. >> the republican party have been very clear it is their agenda to have a national ban on abortion. >> reporter: for his part, president biden has been working to curb inflation and gas prices. last week he approved the release of more oil from america's strategic reserve but denied any connection to the looming election. >> i've been doing this for how long now? it's not politically motivated

at all. >> reporter: despite the president's work, many democrats in the most competitive races don't want to be seen with him. >> tim ryan in ohio said he didn't want you there, warnock wouldn't say. do you think they're making a mistake? >> no. >> reporter: one democrat who is in big demand, former president barack obama, who's now on the air waves for democrats in key races. >> you can count on john fetterman. make sure he can count on you. >> reporter: plans to campaign in michigan, georgia, and wisconsin. in the coming days, attention will focus on pennsylvania, where democrat john fetterman and republic oz will met in their one and only debate. here in washington there are looming fights over raising the debt limit and future funding for the war in ukraine as republicans say they'll force a rethinking on issues if they take control of congress. margaret? had. >> thank you. we're joined by speaker of the house, nancy pelosi. good morning. it's great to have you here at

the table. >> my pleasure. thank you. good morning. >> you have said a lot is going to be determined by turnout, but you've heard our cbs estimates have the republicans taking the house with 224 seats. how do you shift the momentum? >> well, let's just say, first and foremost, good morning. it's sunday morning, 15 days or so before the election. people are already voting. we're very pleased with our early vote for our owning the ground initiative. it's interesting to me because for a year and a half, the media has been saying, oh, it's gone. the president's party always loses in the off year and now we're down to the stretch and we're down to very close races. we feel very confident. i've been in over 20 states since congress adjourned in the last month or so. and i see very clearly that the ownership of the ground is with us. it's about getting out the vote. everything else is a

conversation compared to that. but in order to do that, you have to have inspiration. you can't run on empty. and the fact is that when i hear people talk about inflation, as i heard there, we have to change that subject. inflation is a global phenomenon. the eu, the european union, the uk, the british have higher inflation rate than we do here. it's not -- the fight is not about inflation. it's about the cost of living. and if you look at what we have done to bring down the cost of prescription drugs, to bring down the cost of energy and the rest in our legislation, you will see that it has been opposed every step of the way by the republicans, and they have no plan for lowering the cost of living or helping with inflation. >> absolutely inflation is a global problem. it's hitting a lot of countries very hard. but there is also that question of fiscal spending. congressman jim clyburn, who

serves in leadership alongside you, said the following this week -- >> all the voters are concerned about these rising costs. and all of us knew this would be the case when we put in place this recovery program. any time you put more money into the economy, prices tend to rise. >> did you also realize at that time that the congressional spending would add to inflation? did you see that risk then? >> first of all, government spending does. we have a pandemic. and that brought down unemployment from 7% to 3.5% now. it put people back to work, children back in school, inoculations in the arm, and it helped take us through that phase of the pandemic. but let me just say that because of more people working and the rest, the national -- the deficit has been cut in half from 2.8% to $1.4 trillion.

that is a big change. so it is -- yes, we have to take a step forward to solve the pandemic problem, but we did so in a way that would reduce the national deficit. and that is -- cannot be ignored. >> but on things like sending $1400 checks, putting cash out there, didn't that end up contributing to inflation? do you have any regrets about the bills you passed and how you structured them? >> no, absolutely not because this -- that was necessary for people to survive. our purpose -- >> but it was inflationary? >> but the point is, is that when you reduce unemployment, it's inflationary. that is a fact. when i was a new member of congress, i was told that unemployment was dangerously low in our hearings on inflation and unemployment. unemployment is dangerously low for what it does to inflation. but the fact is, the point is,

is that this is about helping america's working families meet their needs. and that was essential to them. less inflationary than $2 trillion tax cut for the high end that the republicans gave, and we're still paying a price for. $2 trillion, 83% of the benefits going to the top 1%. so, we feel proud of what we've done. we feel proud of the president to help america's working families to lower their costs, and in doing so, to reduce the deficit. >> well, on the issues that voters tell cbs news are important to them, abortion ranks number seven. up top, economy, inflation, crime, immigration. what is a miscalculation to believe that the momentum from striking down roe versus wade was going to help democrats? why not talk more about these issues around the economy? >> well, i can just say this --

nobody ever -- elections are about the future. they're about the economy. everybody knows that. nobody said we're doing abortion rather than economy, but it's about both. and i can tell you that that issue is very, very provocative and encouraging people to vote across the country, having just been there, not sitting in washington, but going around the country. but i will say this -- >> 24% of likely voters, according to our polling are motivated by this issue about roe. >> that's a good number. >> you need them to win, right? >> that's right. >> they need to show up. >> let's just talk about what this comes down to. in these races, and why i'm optimistic about it, i mean, it's a fight. these are close races. it's like the olympics in half a second you can be gold, silver, bronze or honored to be an olympian. these are tough fights. but that's what they are and

it's a big change from what the media was -- media thread, they can't possibly win. but here's the thing, in these districts, the republicans have said that if they win, they want to subject medicare, social security held blackmail to lifting the debt ceiling. they have said they would like to review medicare and social security every five years. they have said that they would like to make it a discretionary spending that congress could decide to do it or not rather than mandatory. so, social security and medicare are on the line. a woman's right to choose is on the line. the planet is on the line. issues that relate to prescription drugs, for years we've been trying to get the secretary to negotiate for lower prices. we couldn't get it done until we had the democratic president and a strong majority and enough in the congress to get it done. >> i want to ask you about that,

the future and the new congress potentially. you told andrea mitchell earlier this week, we need generational change, but in some cases there's no substitute for experience. >> right. >> will you remain in leadership in the new congress? >> i'm not talking about that. i'm here to talk about how we win the election. >> but to deliver on all these -- >> i was only paying andrea a compliment for all the experience she has. >> i see. >> but the fact is -- >> so, you may or you may not? >> i'm not here to talk about me. i'm here to talk about the future, america's working families, for the children. it's always about the children. and the point is this, that the -- these issues, if you're a senior, you have a lot at risk. >> yes. >> if you're of child-bearing age, woman, you have a lot at risk. if you care about the planet, you have a lot at risk. they said it's a hoax. when they had the debate on funding for addressing the climate crisis, not one

republican vote. we talked about -- so what we need to go forward, what is more that we had in our agenda, child care, child tax credit, issues like that. >> madam speaker, i appreciate you coming here today. we did also invite the republican house leader to join us. he declined the invitation. we'll be right back. >> thank you.

we turn to former fda commissioner, pfizer board member dr. scott gottlieb. it is great to see you. but i have other tough issues to ask you about, including the surge in respiratory infections y hapng an in 33 states. sg so. rge ght inreviru weyply snte summeakight now.this notnl seas

last year where we saw an early peak in those cases. some subsubscribe it to the fact that children have been removed from the pathogens. so it's changed the typical cycle for this virus. we're seeing these waves of infection from rsv earlier in the season than we normally would see. for most people this is a self-limiting infection, upper respiratory infection that causes cold-like symptoms. for children under 2 it can be a serious infection. it's especially concerning for those who are immunocompromised or those in the neonatal intensive care unit as well as older adults, elderly americans or people who have other kinds of conditions who put them at risk. >> this is happening. you have flu season coming and covid ticking up. the white house says everyone needs to go out and get the boo. against all of these rra >> well, look, i think now is a prudent time to not just get the

covid booster, the new bivalent vaccine and the flu vaccine. we have flu cases picking up. it looks like this may be a more aggressive flu season. the predominant strain is h3n2. the vaccine based on the genetic sequence of the strain circulating and the antigen in the vaccine shows it will be quite protective. in terms of protecting yourself, it's the normal thing, wash your hands, avoid crowded spaces. if you don't feel well, stay home. don't send a child to school. >> wear a mask? >> all the things we've learned -- look, i think if you're someone who's at at risk or someone who wants to take extra precaution, one way we know masking does work, i don't think people will generally be wearing them right now, but i think for people who are at risk, who want an extra measure of protection, that's another step that can help in that. the final thing i'll say isor h

have an upper respiratory infection, many times they test them and find out it's not covi flu. there are treatments available that could help children with rsv. >> noted. it is election season, and i want to ask you about a false claim about covid vaccines that really hit the campaign trail and it's been in conservative circles in particular. under u.s. law, just to be clear, the cdc does not mandate vaccines, as we've talked about here before. the state governors have the authority to do that. can you explain what the cdc advisers actually did last week? >> yeah, well, this week they took the recommendation that already existed for children to get vaccinated with the covid vaccine, which was their general recommendation they issued last year and they incorporated it into their formal recommendations, their permanent recommendations. some people refer to it as their

vaccine schedule. that doesn't translate into state mandates. there are a lot of vaccines in that schedule, for example, the flu vaccine is in that schedule, they recommend that for children. no states mandate that. the hpv vaccine is in the schedule. only two states mandate the hpv for children to attend school, and even dengue fever is in the schedule and no state mandates that. what got started on twitter initially is the cdc recommendations automatically translate into state mandates, which is not true. one of the reasons why the cdc went ahead and made this formal recommendation is it also allows vaccines to be incorporated into vaccines for children program which allows them to get vaccines. there will be no state mandates. i don't think there should be state mandates. i don't think we're at the point we should be considering mandating this vaccine as a condition to attend school. i think every child should seek out this vaccine, parents should

strongly consider vaccine their kids. i don't expect to see any state mandating this vaccine. >> thank you for your clarity on that. the misinformation you just said started on twitter. tucker carlson amplified it. as we showed our viewers, you see a number of candidates and sitting governors spreading this. you have presidential candidate potentially mike pompeo, you have the governor of virginia, the governor of utah, senator tom cotton of arkansas, kari lake. they're all putting out tweets with this false idea. so, there is clearly a political force in anti-vaccine sentiment. >> well, look, i think from a public health standpoint, the more this becomes a political matter and the more people make this a political matter, the campaign against mandates bleeds into a campaign against the vaccine itself. and people generally don't take away the nuance of those messages if there is any nuance in those messages in the first place. they hear the skepticism against the vaccine and then they're less likely to consider it for

themselves, even where it makes sense from a clinical standpoint. i didn't see a lot of people stepping up saying, look, my state won't mandate the vaccine. these are decisions left to pediatricians and parents. i would strongly encourage parents to make sure their children are up to date with all the available vaccines especially am advance of the flu and covid season. that would have been an appropriate message for governors to say, look, we're not going to mandate it but we still think it's important. the closest i saw anyone coming to that was spencer cox in utah. >> and to be clear, the cdc wasn't as clear as they could have been either. that's why we wanted you to help -- >> that's right. >> -- translate that for our viewers. dr. scott gottlieb, thank you. we'll be back with more "face the nation." stay with us. anager) different how? aren't we all just looking for the hottest stocks? (fisher investments) nope. we use diversified strategies to position our client's portfolios for their long-term goals. (other money manager) but you still sell investments that generate high commissions for you, right? (fisher investments) no, we don't sell commission products. we're a fiduciary,

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podcast "on with kara swisher." thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> on the election front, and kara, i want to start with you, there are have been recent studies talking about facebook, tiktok approving ads with political misinformation on them. how does this continue to happen with vaccines and with political misinformation? why can't these platforms get control? >> because they don't want to make those decisions. they want to opt themselves out of decision-making on editorial. you heard nick cleg, number two at facebook, gave an interview where he talked about that. we shouldn't do this. it should be government. then we have the first amendment so government can't interceed. there's so much of it and it floods the zone and they make money from it that they don't want the responsibility for it. even though it's on their platforms and they should have the responsibility. >> and some of it's sort of -- dances or flirts with

distortions. so, you have to be in that government business of spotting this. chris, how do you even do that? >> well, it's a challenge with the first amendment issues, you know, dhs launched their disinformation governance board earlier in the year. that was not actually met with any kind of fanfare. they ultimately sort of backed down. even though efforts they were taking through that group have been under way for a decade or more within dhs. one of the things we looked at back in the 2020 election was not the specific claims or specific elements of mis or disinformation but more the thematics that were emerging. not pinning it to a sing individual. these were the claims we were hearing and security controls or prevention in place that would not allow that to happen in an election. we're seeing some continuation of that. but once again, there's so much of it. you know, once it hits, it's really hard to go bit by bit and

pull it back. >> i want to show our viewers our cbs affiliate out in arizona filmed multiple incidents of possible voter intimidation. they had armed individuals wearing tactical gear, as you can see there, camped out by a voter drop box. there were other two with handguns concealed yesterday. so, some of this is driven towards a very specific conspiracy that emerged, right? so, chris, how does the fbi head this off and not allow it to go into political violence? >> well, i think the important thing here is that if any volter or election official sees these sort of things happening in arizona, they make a report. they tell the relevant officials and they can investigate and look at these people and investigate. then there's a deterrent -- >> take the guy with the tactical vest -- >> the continued efforts to delegitimize the 2020 election are resulting in candidates

incentivized to push these lies, but also you have a radicalization and activation across the voter base that are effectively -- this is performative. this doesn't happen. the claims of mules and ballot trafficking, it doesn't happen, particularly in a way that someone like this would be able to detect anything. moreover, what's happening is the people that are being accused of ballot trafficking or being a mule actually report it to the officials and say, here's my name, here's my contact information. i was accused of this. would any legitimate fraudster or mule do that and then report on themselves? of course not. it's all performative. >> unfortunately, chaos is the point. chaos and discord from the russian playbook is what they want. discord problems, making people radical -- radicalizing people. it's in the mainstream. before it bubbles up from the bottom and now it's pushed down from the top. last night you heard trump say a

number of things that were radicalizing. so, that goes down and goes back up. it's hit the mainstream now. they don't even need these ads or anything else because it's now infected some of the public so much. so, this is where people get their news, a lot of news. before this, we had sort of information obesity, not enough people got 2k3w50d news. now they get a lot of information but not actual facts. >> we're going to take a quick break and come back, talk more about this in a moment. stay with us. your shipping manager left to “find themself.” leaving you lost.

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