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it was just days after the 2020 presidential election that lawyers supporting then president donald trump began spreading unsubstantiated claims that an american company, dominion voting systems rigged the election. they said dominion was backed by venezuela and machines and software switched millions of votes from donald trump to joe

biden. they never showed any evidence, but that didn't stop pro-trump attorneys from making baseless claims or conservative news networks from giving them plenty of air time. dominion filed eight lawsuits seeking more than $10 billion in damages against fox news and other networks, corporations and individuals. but dominion's ceo john poulos has remained largely silent until now. we spoke with him about the lawsuits, the lies, and the irreparable damage he says they've caused to his company and his employees. >> people have been put into danger. their families have been put into danger. their lives have been up ended and all because of lies. it was a very clear calculation that they knew there wre lies and they were repeating them and endorsing them. >> it's important to you people admit what they said was wrong. >> it's important to me. it's important to all the people whose families have been impacted by this. anderson, my kids still are not allowed to get any package from the front door until we verify

that it's actually from a trusted sender. >> you're that concerned about somebody sending something to your house? >> it's not unfounded concern. >> people have done that? >> people have done this. people are warning that they will continue to do this. >> for john poulos and his company, the trouble began five days after the election when fox business host maria bartiromo brought up dominion with attorney sidney powell. >> sidney, we talked about the dominion software. i know there were voting irregularities. tell me about that. >> that's to put it mildly. the computer glitches could not and should not have happened at all. that is where the fraud took place, where they were flipping votes in the computer system or adding votes that did not exist. >> sidney powell was never able to show fraud, but she was repeatedly invited back on fox networks as was the president's personal attorney, rudy giuliani. who also wove a false narrative about smartmatic, an election technology company which is now

suing giuliani, fox news and others. >> smartmatic is a company that was formed by three venezuelans who were very close to -- very close to the dictator chavez of venezuela. and it was formed in order to fix elections. that's the company that owns dominion. >> does smartmatic own dominion? >> no. we do have a relationship. we are competitors. >> were you associated with the late hugo chavez. >> absolutely not. >> do you use a venezuelan company software that's been used to steal election in other countries? >> absolutely not. anderson, i can cut all of this short. we were founded in toronto, which is where my family was from. and there's nothing to do with venezuela. >> can you flip votes in the computer system? can you add votes that did not exist? >> absolutely not. >> president trump first mentioned dominion in a tweet november 12th and recorded this

video a few weeks later which was posted on facebook. >> we have a company that's very suspect. it's name is dominion. with a turn of a dial, or the change of a chip, you can press a button for trump and the vote goes to biden. what kind of a system is this? we have to go to paper. maybe it takes longer. but the only secure system is paper. >> why not just have paper ballots? >> we do have paper ballots. what the machines do is they count those paper ballots in a way that makes it very easy for people to verify after the fact through the means of audits and recounts. >> dominion makes two types of machines. one is called the ballot marker, a touch screen device that a voter with use to mark their choices and then print the ballot. the second machine is a scanner that reads that paper ballot, counts the vote and immediately stores the ballot securely. >> voter takes a paper ballot.

they've made their marks however they make their marks, depending on the jurisdiction. as they deposit it into the ballot box, it goes through a digital scanner and then drops into the ballot box. so how do you hack a paper ballot? >> he showed us how it work. >> this is the scanner that sits atop a locked and sealed ballot box. this is how they cast their ballot. goes through a scanner and now we have an image of the ballot we just cast and we have the paper ballot that is used for recounts. >> john poulos says it was watching the presidential recounts in florida in 2000 with those arguments over hanging chads that got him interested in improving how paper ballots were marked and counted. he was an engineer working at a startup in silicon valley and began looking at ways to make it easier to recount paper ballots and to help people with disabilities vote without assistance. >> our goal was to allow any voter to make their marks on a

paper ballot in a clear, unambiguous way regardless of physical ability. >> john poulos is canadian and founded dominion in 2002. he remains as chief executive, though it was acquired by an american investment group in 2018. dominion is based in denver. do you ever think to yourself, i got into this to help paraplegics and blind people vote more easily and look what happened? >> i think about it all the time. >> dominion is one of three companies that make most of the voting systems in america. in the 2020 presidential election, their machines were in 28 states. red states and blue. on election day in a precinct, are your machines hooked up to the internet? >> no, not by any stretch. we go through a number of certifications, government certifications. and the first one is at a federal level. so, those standards mandate that election systems, such as ours, are designed to work in a closed

system. air gapped. no internet. >> in all the major swing states of 2020, there are paper ballots backing up -- >> not only are there paper ballots that make up the official record, those paper ballots have been hand counted and audited over 1,000 times. on just the 2020 election. >> recounts and audits in the swing states of georgia, arizona, michigan, pennsylvania and nevada all confirmed dominion's results. more than 60 lawsuits around the country challenging the election by trump or his supporters were ultimately withdrawn or failed. in georgia there have been three recounts. two electronic ones and one hand recount. >> in front of cameras. bipartisan poll watchers and thousands of local residents across the state of georgia and once agan reaffirmed the results. that should have put an end to all of it. but the lies persisted. >> and so have incidents of harassment and threats against john poulos and his employees. >> every single person of dominion is going to end up in

an orange jump suits and handcuffs. you [ bleep ]. you cheating bleep pigs. >> yeah, good morning, scum bags. we're going to blow your [ bleep ] building up. piece of [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> i don't wish to sit here and say that this is something that happened 18 months ago. this is something that continues to happen every single day for us. last friday we had an office on lockdown. two days prior to that, i was on a phone call with one of our employees who is a mother of two. very upset and crying. it's hard to talk about. >> had something been said to her personally? >> a very disgusting death threat in detail. >> received -- >> on her personal cell phone. >> it's completely and utterly surreal. none of these lies have been substantiated to any extent. every single one has been debunked.

b. >> chris krebz was director of the cybersecurity and infrastructure agency charged with protecting the 2020 election. he called it the most secure election in american history and days later fired by president trump. he now has a cyber consulting firm and is a contributor for cbs news. we showed him a press conference held two days after his firing at the headquarters of the republican national committee, when rudy giuliani, sidney powell and others continued their attacks on dominion machines and software. >> it can sit and run an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from president trump and flipped them to president biden. >> do you remember watching that? >> yeah. i tweeted about it immediately afterwards. i think i said something along the lines that was the most insane, dangerous 45 minutes of tv in american history effectively. >> how secure was the 2020 election? >> let me put it this way, it was the most litigated, it was

the most scrutinized, it was the most audited, this election was put through the ringer from so many different directions, and what i tend to say, don't listen to me. listen to bill barr. bill barr said it. he was then the attorney general of the united states. >> this is what bill barr later said to the january 6th committee. >> these claims on the dominion voting machines and they were idiotic claims, i saw absolutely zero basis for the allegations, but they were made in such a sensational way that they obviously were influencing a lot of people. >> dominion began alerting fox news and other networks of the false allegations they were broadcasting november 12th. four days after sidney powell first discussed dominion with maria bartiromo. dominion says fox news never retracted their reporting. >> you gave them a lot of chances to correct their statements? >> they still haven't corrected them. >> to me that's the most powerful part of the complaint.

>> lee lavigne is a first amendment attorney who litigated cases for 40 years on behalf of most media companies including cbs and fox. he's retired now, but his old firm is currently representing cnn and me in a separate matter filed by attorneys who also represent dominion in its cases against fox news and others. >> take the fox case, for example. november 12th seems to me to be the key date in that case because that's the day that dominion started on a regular basis sending information sheets to every producer on every show at fox that was having sidney powell and rudy giuliani on saying here are the true facts. here are links supporting our assertions that these are the true facts. and then these people continued to invite giuliani and powell on their shows. >> defamation cases are hard to prove, aren't they? >> yes, they are.

the plaintiff has to prove what the law calls actual malice. you need to show basically that the defendant published or broadcast a deliberate lie, a calculated falsehood. >> they knew it was a lie when they broadcast it. >> they knew it was a lie or they knew it was probably a lie. >> how strong is dominion's case against fox and the others? >> i think it is much stronger than most defamation cases that i have seen. i might say it is the strongest. >> how many defamation cases have you seen? >> i have litigated myself hundreds. and i'm certainly aware of every significant defamation case in the last 40 years. >> and this is the strongest one? >> in my judgment. >> in a statement to "60 minutes," fox says it is confident lit prevail, citing freedom of the press protections and state it was reporting on a newsworthy allegation made by the then president and aired segments fact checking the allegations against dominion.

dominion is suing fox news and its parent corporation for $1.6 billion each and in its statement fox said that dominion's financial demand is unsupported. efforts by fox news and other defendants to have the lawsuits dismissed have been rejected by the courts. >> do you think that you can show not only that they lied but they knew that they were lying? >> i don't even think -- i think that's the easiest part. >> you as a company told them specifically, repeatedly. >> we told them. we told them in realtime. others told them. government officials told them. partisan government officials told them. people inside the trump administration told them. local election officials on both sides of the aisle told them. this is not a matter of not knowing the truth. they knew the truth. safeguarding vote by mail -- >> it's impossible to now think that there's widespread fraud in it. >> a 60minutesovertime.com

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the united states has national parks devoted to canyons and deserts, glaciers and geysers, even under water coral reefs. 63 national parks in all, but somehow we skipped the american prairie. the grasslands that once stretched from the mississippi river to the rockies played a vital role in the lives of native americans, white settlers and an endless variety of wildlife. they inspired explorers and artists, but apparently not park planners. nearly 20 years ago a nonprofit organization began trying to fix that. not with a new national park but rather a huge privately operated nature reserve on the great plains. one that would be open to the

public but also a place where buffalo can roam once again. through a vast stretch of open and for the most empty assland, aison ip y two-track t sear of al this road is incredible. fox is the ceo of american prairie, which has, as just one of many audacious goals, the restoration of bison to a landscape they once ruled. oh, there. there. >> there they are. >> there. look at them. wow. there they are. >> look at the babies. >> look at that. >> oh. >> we found part of what american prairie calls its conservation herd of about 800 buffalo. this group is mainly mothers with new calves which are a distinctive shade of red.

>> trying to count the babies but now they moved the babies into the middle of the group. >> this land is like this as far as the eye can see. >> as far as the eye can see. >> that's not a bad description of the scale of american prairie's ambition to create the largest nature reserve in the contiguous united states. the nonprofit has more than 50 employees from fundraisers to buffalo wranglers. allison fox has worked there for 15 years and has been in charge for the last 4. overall, the goal is to have how many acres in this reserve? >> yeah. the overall goal is about 5,000 square miles, 3.2 million acres of in tact grasslands. comparable to the size of the state of connecticut and also comparable to glacier and yellowstone national parks combined. >> that is big. >> it is big. >> the big chunk of land is mostly north of the missouri river in north central montana, one of the most remote parts of

the country. it's a patchwork of privately owned cattle ranches and land owned by the government. including a huge existing national wildlife refuge named after the famous cowboy painter charles m. russell. >> and that 1.1 million acres serves as the anchor of american prairie's 3.2 million acre vision. >> you have these big chunks of federal land and you're buying land in between to try to piece it all together. >> exactly. >> so just about every time a private ranch comes up for sale inside its desired footprint, american prairie tries to buy it to add another piece to its puzzle and preserve more grassland. how many ranches have you purchased? >> we have purchased 34 ranches. >> to buy all those ranches, american prairie has raised nearly $200 million for more than 4,000 donors including wall

street financiers and technology mogul. it says it will take hundreds of millions more and decades more to complete the patchwork. this is a long game. >> this is a long game. and it's a long game for land acquisition. it's probably even longer game for the restoration of habitats and species. this area was america's serengeti, truly american serengeti with tens of thousands of bison, prong horn, elk, deer, grizzly bears, wolves. >> is that the goal or a goal to restore that? >> yes. to have the ecosystem function fully as it once did. >> charles russell's paintings portray a romanticized version of what the prairie ecosystem used to look like. teeming herds of buffalo, native americans hunting and living alongside the buffalo, at least until they both were displaced

by white settlers and hundreds of thousands of cattle. >> it's amazing to think of the people that lived here before us, people and other thing. so other this direction, there's quite a cluster of tepee rings. native americans used to use this. w. >> connie french operates this cattle ranch with her husband craig, and they are proud of their collaboration with conservation groups. in fact, they graze some of their cattle on a ranch that's been owned by the nation conservancy for more than 20 years. >> okay, girl. >> but when american prairie's early leaders came in talking about saving the land, it really rubbed her wrong. >> so saving it, yes. but not just tromping over people. >> is that what it feels like? >> it does feel like that sometimes, yes. >> they came in like we know better. >> uh-huh.

uh-huh. >> you have said that for their vision to become a reality, you and what you do that you're gone? >> uh-huh. i guess i can say yes, that's how it feels to us, to me. >> along the few roads slicing through the grasslands here, the signs are everywhere, save the cowboy. stop american prairie reserve. they make it clear that a lot of connie french's ranching share her concern. >> what some ranchers told us is when you say you want to save the land, what they hear is that you want to save the land from them. >> yeah. no, we are well aware that that word save hit a nerve. that was not at all our intention. many of our ranching neighbors are committed to conservation. so if i could pull back that word save, i absolutely word. >> american prairie is now working hard to mend fences with skeptical neighbors. it has a program called wild sky, run by a wildlife biologist

on its staff, daniel kinka. >> wild sky ranchers are the best at what they do in terms of sustainable ranching. >> wild sky will pay a rancher up to $15,000 a year for things like modifying fences, to make them easier for wildlife to get over or through while still keeping cattle contained. it also pays ranchers to install cameras on their property. >> the rancher gets paid for every animal that crosses the path of this camera? >> that's correct. you get a coyote, that's 25 bucks. a black bear, 300 bucks. four or five elk, that's 50 bucks. the biggest payouts are for wolves and grizzly bears. 500 per picture per camera per day. >> wolves and grizzly bears aren't on this part of the prairie at the molt. the idea of wild sky is that as they and other wildlife do return, payments will help cattle ranchers tolerate them. >> make sure you follow up the calves. >> lance johnson, a fourth generation montanan who runs a

cattle ranch with his wife and two daugs sky ranchers. the cameras on his property have captured enough pictures this year to earn him $6,000. the annual maximum american prairie will pay for photos of wildlife. >> these ranches are so hard to make profitable, if you can figure out any way to supplement your income, then that's probably necessary right now. >> johnson also leases grass and grazes cattle on a ranch owned by american prairie. so, while some of his neighbors see it as a threat, he says that working with it helps ensure his family's future. you see a place where you and your daughters and your cattle on this land for the foreseeable future. >> we hope so. we hope for the rest of our lives that we're there. i want to do everything i can to gve our girls that opportunity to have ranching in their future. >> american prairie says it intends to work alongside cattle

ranchers for decades to come. and it does have some natural allies in the neighborhood. >> the rancher and the wild space, can those two co-exist. >> yeah, they can and they are. happening right now. >> mark azure was born and raised on the reservation, which adjacent to where american prairie is assembling its reserve. he's a former president of the reservation's tribal council, made up of members of two tribes, the nakota and the ani. is there any recollection of what this land was like before the white settlers came? like the wildlife? >> yes. it was plentiful. millions and millions of buffalo and antelope and deer and prairie dogs, black footed ferrets, elk. >> the tribes began building their bison herd nearly a half century ago and it's now nearly

1,000 animals. mark azure took us out to see part of the herd which roams across a huge pasture on the reservation. >> they're just scattered out doing what buffalo do and that's eat the grass. and right now enjoy the weather. >> the tribe's benefit economically from selling some buffalo meat. but you can see in the symbols used during native ceremonies that their value is much greater than money. >> we know the history of the tribes and the buffalo. and they were one in the same to come out here and get on the prairie and see a herd of buffalo. you can kind of leave that world for a little bit and reconnect with that lifestyle that my ancestors lived years ago. might be just a little bit, but it's there.

>> some ranchers fear that the tribes and american prairie will let their buffalo roam free, as they once did. >> you use the term free. and i always argued that point because there's a fence somewhere. there has to be a fence somewhere. but as much room as we can give them to roam, then within that context they'll be free. but not like it was 200 years ago. and we understand that. >> still a place where you can come and see the buffalo roam. >> absolutely. >> american prairie encourages people to visit the land it owns. it operates campgrounds and has built huts and yurts anyone can reserve. it allows hunting on many properties which helps to build support among montanans. >> across the west you see more and more no trespassing signs. we talked a lot about wildlife and wildlife habitat, but certainly providing access for

people to appreciate, learn from, recreate on this land is really important part of what we're doing as well. >> the debate over american prairie is often framed as an either or. either there are cattle or buffalo. if preservationists win, ranchers lose. what we found across these wide expanses of grass were much more subtle shades of green. >> when a new group comes in, new folks, new neighbors, it takes some time to learn if it's legit. >> what i think i hear you saying is they have to earn your trust. >> uh-huh. >> and so far they have not. >> no. that trust isn't given lightly. >> with the size of the state of montana and the herds of cattle, hundreds of thousands of animals in this state, i don't think buffalo will ever compete. that's not what we're trying to do. we're trying -- with american prairie, take a section of land

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>> was julia childs book your cooking school? >> julia chiles was my cooking school, yeah, exactly. >> her actual degree was in economics. at 26, she had a job at the white house analyzing nuclear energy policy for the ford administration. jeffrey worked around the corner at the state department. each weekend ina says they devote their time to less bureaucratic pursuits like making a great dinner party look simple. >> to this day i thought i never made something for a dinner party i hadn't made several times. so i would on monday i would make the roast leg of lamb with tomatoes with minced mushrooms for jeffrey for dinner. >> lucky man. >> make it again on wednesday. then by saturday, i knew how to make it. and the poor guy would go, oh, this is delicious. what is this? >> after 1,000 dinner parties and two administrations, 30 years old, ina had burned out of life inside the beltway.

1978 she saw this ad in the back of the new york times for a 400 square foot specialty food store in west hampton, new york, called the barefoot contessa. but you had never been to the hamptons. you didn't know how to run a store. >> i knew how to make 12 brownies for my friends. but i didn't know how to make 100 brownies. i didn't know how to cash out the register. slice smoked salmon. to me brie was a foreign language. >> was it confidence that allowed you to do that? or was it that you were being naive? >> i have a very low threshold of boredom. i was really bored with my job. i thought this is really exciting. this is what i do for fun. and now i can do it professionally. and so i thought, i'm just going to jump in. thinking, how hard could this be? oh my god. >> it was really hard. they say they double mortgaged their house. she was working 20 hours a day to keep up with the crowds who came to gawk at the goods and

load up on lobster salad. soon she opened a bigger shop in east hampton. >> it's very deliberate. i was always doing research. looked like i was having a good time wandering around having a party. but it was all careful and deliberate. >> a calculated businesswoman, sce and soonli falling over themselves to have the barefoot contessa cater their weddings or thanksgiving. >> every year we would pack up the orders wednesday night so people could come in thursday morning and i would use the van next to the store as a refrigerator. one year it was like 33 years when i was going home. i thought, nobody wants frozen thanksgiving dinner. so i drove the van home. and i set my alarm for every single hour all night to turn the heat on for a few minutes and then go back to sleep. >> to keep the turkeys warm. >> well, the turkeys we roasted in the morning, the vegetables

and the sides and all that stuff. >> after 18 years, she decided to sell the barefoot contessa in 1996. >> so one minute i'm making 1,000 baguettes and the next minute i had nothing to do. >> how was that? >> it was horrible. i thought, i'm 50. t of my career. >> hardly. the lull lasted nine months before she started writing the barefoot contessa cook book, the first of 13 cook books, nine of which became new york times best sellers. crushing big name chefs by remembering the lessons learned at her specialty food shop. >> i realized later what i knew was what people wanted to eat at home, which is roast chicken and roast carrots and chocolate cake and coconut cup cakes and things i knew from the store people bought and took home. >> you weren't trying to say, here is everything i know. you were saying here is what you need to know. >> yeah. here is what will make you happy at home. >> her latest cook book, go-to dinners was inspired by the pandemic. and again, ina is in every

detail. one of the things about the book that is not by accident is that you can put it on the counter and it doesn't flop shut. >> i'm so glad you noticed that. >> early on she sought out a printer in japan so her cook books would lie flat, wouldn't close while cooking. she designed them to have white space for notes and pictures for guide. simplicity is a non-negotiable. >> do you throw something out because it's too difficult to make? >> absolutely. if i get to a point in a recipe and i go, i'm never going to make this recipe again, everything goes in the trash. and if you're exhausted by the time you finish that, it's not good for the party. >> you're thinking about the party above all things. >> always thinking about the party. >> the party got real big, real fast after ina was invited to be on martha's stewart show. outtake caught the eye of a food network executive. >> she said i was making something and i took a spoonful of it and tasted. this is really good.

and martha stewart crews said, cut, you can't talk with your mouthful. i was like, why? it's a cooking show. >> she told network executives she didn't want a show. gave in with a caveat. instead of an adoring studio audience, she insisted more intimate affair in her kitchen. she directed the cameras to com party. one of the things i'm fascinated by, there are a lot of people who watch your show who don't cook. what do you think the appeal? why are they watching you cook? mom was in the kitchen cooking for us. i feel like people are hanging out with me and i'm cooking for them. >> it's not about look at me. >> it's never about look at me. i'm like don't look at me. i'm just the opposite. it's funny. i have a friend who said everybody else is like look at me. look at me. pay attention to me. i'm like, well, this is what i do.

you can do whatever the [ bleep ] you want to do. and i'm just having fun here. >> the fun came to a screeching halt for ina and everyone else during the pandemic. unable to film her show or cook for her friends, she turned to instagram, offering practical advice to home cooks. >> it's really important to keep traditions alive. >> and stirring up fun. >> you never know who is stopping by. wait a minute, no one is stopping by. >> two cups of vodka and 3 million views later. >> delicious. >> with the lockdown over, we wanted to make sure ina didn't have to drink alone. >> you do this, jeffrey arrives. >> hi, sweetie. you know sharon. >> i know sharon. hi, sharon. >> we made a red grapefruit paloma for you. how is that? >> mr. garten served as the dean of yale business school. and had a successful career on wall street. millions of viewers know him simply as jeffrey.

>> ina called you her muse before. what is she to you? >> well, she's the center of my life. she's actually the font of enormous amount of fun. and she is the center of a home. that's what she is to me. >> thank you. that's not bad. >> the couple has been married for more than 50 years. is this a typical day at the house? >> oh, yeah. we have cocktails all the time. >> couple times a day. >> that's the secret to a happy marriage. >> exactly right. >> just delicious. >> thank you. >> the next morning we went looking for cars but in the hamptons the corner shop doesn't sell donuts. >> this is carissa's. >> so cute. >> isn't it wonderful? >> she took us to her favorite local bakery for a taste of the good life. what is it that you love about this spot? >> well, first i love carissa's because it's two local women. the two have built this extraordinary place with great quality food.

they use local ingredients in almost everything. they're here everyday. it just feels like what i used to do. feels like coming home. look how fabulous that is. >> this is just what i would typically have for breakfast. >> exactly. >> this is all lovely. but the bacon, egg and cheese sandwich is $20 a lobster roll is 38. >> first of all, it's organic, it's local and things are expensive here. but it's not just a piece of white bread. it's on a roll that carissa made. one of the luxuries of here is you can make really good quality product. >> garten's life isn't all rose colored cocktails and french pastries but we thought it's pretty dang close. she still may be a nervous cook, but ina has nailed the recipe for a good life. >> i want to do what i love doing and do it well and have a good life. w. julia stole french food. you martha stole perfection. you're slinging fun. >> well, i just think if you're

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