♪ welcome back to "face the nation." we go now to the chair of the democratic congressional campaign committee, that's new york congressman sean patrick maloney. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i want to start where we just left off with our other guests. how concerned are you about the risk of political violence? and can you say, unequivocally, that you and your fellow democrats will accept the outcome of your elections? >> of course we'll accept the outcome of the elections. always have, always will. and we're very crned about the integrity of our elections, especially when people are trying to intimidate people with weapons, when they're engaged in these tactics to try to undermine confidence. we're going to accept the results of the election. that's the american way.

>> well, i'm glad you said that because there's been a lot of attention drawn to comments by some democrats, including hillary clinton, who just released a taped statement online where she was talking about upcoming elections. and she said, right-wing extremists already have a plan to literally steal the next presidential election and they're not making a secret of it. i understand hyperbole, but would you agree that's not helpful to talk about plots to steal elections? >> yeah, i don't understand what that means. i didn't see the comment. let me tell you what i think. what i think is it's perfectly legitimate for both parties to make sure voting is fair, there's no fraud, that when votes are cast, that the people have a right to cast them or don't. that's normal. and in a close election, you might have a recount, you might have other examination of absentee ballots.

that's all run of the mill stuff. what's different is people showing up with weapons sitting in the back of a pickup truck next to a drop box trying to scare the tar out of people just trying to exercise his vote. what's different is the first time in history says he was cheated when that's a lie. let's not pretend for a minute that both sides have the same amount of confidence in our elections. one side has been out there for a couple of years now, doing everything they can to pretend joe biden didn't win fair and square when he did. and that's the difference. >> on that topic, democrats shelled out about $53 million to support 13 republican candidates during the primaries. i know you're part of strategy here and the strategy was to elevate less electable republicans in order to benefit democrats. some of this worked for you, but in at least two races, these guys have realistic shots at

victory. i'm looking at john gibbs in michigan, for example. do you take responsibility for helping election deniers? >> well, at the dccc there's only one race in the country, one, where we engage in the tactic you're talking about. what we did was ran an ad that's true that said he's too extreme for western michigan. we ran that general election ad about two weeks early. and hillary sculton has been beating him -- >> you stand by that strategy? >> and she's going to beat him. in a budget of $340 million, we spent about $400,000 running a true general election commercial two weeks early calling john gibbs an extremist, which he is. that's all you're talking about. i can't answer to what governors did or what senators did or what other people did. but the committee i ran in a budget of $300 million put

$400,000 into speeding up a general election ad that was truthful. and we're going to win that race. >> the top three issues when we talk to voters they tell us they're concerned about are economy, inflation and crime. half of voters, according to our poll, think democrats would cut police funding. now, i saw an ad the dccc just bought in your district and it opens with you talking to a policeman. you are keenly aware of this. why hasn't your party been able to shake that perception of being soft on crime? >> well, because a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth gets its shoes on, as the saying goes. in my own case, i brought $7 million for local police departments, supported the invest to protect that, which will fund all the police departments in my district, all under 125 officers. that's the most important support we've done for police in 30 years. and if you care about rising crime, my goodness, we should listen to police who are begging

us to do something about the gun violence, which is at the heart of so much rise in crime. of course, the maga crowd is in the pocket of the nra and won't touch comments by bipartisan gun safety legislation, which we passed through the house. we have a record of results supporting good policing and going after gun violence. and that's what people need to know. >> in our poll, 46% of voters believe republicans' economic policies will help them. only 40% say the same about democrats. 53% of voters believe gas prices will go up under democrats. 21% say the same of the gop. i mean, since you're talking strategy here, in these closing days, how do you change these perceptions and how do you get out younger voters? >> right. what people need to know, we have a plan for cheaper gas, cheaper groceries, cheaper housing, cheaper health care. we have a plan for safer streets, supporting good

policing and attacking gun violence, which is so much of the problem. and supporting our freedoms. our preproductive freedoms and voting rights. those are real plans. you can take a poll and you can take a snapshot at any given time. of course, your former guest had no plan for the economy. they have no plan for gun violence. they have no plan to move our country forward, protecting voting rights, protecting reproductive freedoms. so, what i would say is don't punish the people who areing your pemew the peopleho trying to exploit the power. that's really the difference right now. we're engaged in the hard work of other side's working on their own power. >> congressman, thank you for your time. we'll be right back. covid-19. some people get it, and some people can get it bad. and for those who do get it bad, it may be because they have a high-risk factor. such as heart disease, diabetes, being overweight, asthma, or smoking.

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'22. mark strassmann reports from los angeles. >> reporter: america's zeitgeist, vulnerability, like this home invasion hammer attack on a polici82-year-old spouse. reinforcing, we're an anxious, often resentful bunch heading into midterms. >> now with joe biden, there's a big thumb on top of you where you can't enjoy yourself. >> i just need to see some peace. and i think the only way to do this is voting. >> reporter: the economy, especially inflation, indisputably top of mind in voter anxiety. >> groceries are outrageous. utilities are outrageous. keeps going up. >> reporter: and gas prices, look at these in los angeles. right at $7 a gallon for regular. that would be nightmarish in most of the country, but here in l.a., prices are actually been coming down in the last couple weeks. in our latest cbs news poll of registered voters, a majority blame president biden and the

democrats for the economy and gas prices. the president's fighting that perception. >> unemployment is not 6.5 but 3.5%, the lowest it's been in 50 years. >> reporter: republicans see inflation numbers and smell blood. >> not just a red wave, but a red tsunami. >> reporter: crime is another voter worry. like last week's deadly school shooting in st. louis.sear invo injuries or deaths. in major cities, murder rates and shootings both down slightly, but from a 30% spike two years ago. our poll shows republicans have a double-digit lead on crime policies to make you feel safer. but american voters want this election cycle of leadership to confront other challenges. immigration, an infectious dies trifecta, covid, the flu and rsv, gun policy and abortion in a post-roe america.

our poll says a majority of voters think republicans will pass a national abortion ban. another worry, culture wars invading the classroom and performance that's plummeting. it's one more challenge calling out for grownup intervention as millions of americans now vote for their idea of a grownup, knowing that whoever wins, half the country will resent it. again. >> mark strassmann reporting from los angeles. our new cbs news battleground tracker poll shows republicans still have an edge in the race for control of the house. cbs news elections and surveys director anthony salvanto is here. anthony, tell us more. >> good morning, margaret. we've been talking to voters throughout this campaign in all the congressional districts. right now our latest cbs news estimate is that the republicans lead in distri rity.ish to take now, there ran a these estimates. let me show you the political

implications here. they really center around turnout. you might ask, do democrats have any chance to hang on, even to a slim house majority? the answer to that starts with the possibility that they get bigger turnout from younger voters. if voters show up the way they did in, say, 2018, that could get the democrats a little bit closer, make the house effectively even. the trouble for them is, we have not seen strong indications that that is going to happen. the more likely scenario is that republicans, who do have an express turnout advantage, more motivation, more enthusiasm so far, if their turnout advantage grows, we plug that into the model and that would get the republicans up to 238 seats, a slightly larger majority. now, in any case, we're looking at a seat gain here for the republicans that's about or even below average for a party out of power. you might ask why that is, especially given the concerns about the state of the country and the state of the economy.

let me show you a split that i think tells a lot of the tale. i asked people, which concerns you more, whether or not the u.s. is going to have a functioning democracy or whether it's going to have a strong economy? and the results are somewhat split. but look at the voting differences here. those who are more concerned about functioning of democracy, voting for democrats. those more concerned about the strong economy voting for republicans. and i think that defines the way that voters see the very large stakes here and the way the parties are expressing those stakes, which is partly why this race is so locked in. margaret? >> anthony, thank you. we'll be right back.

for more now, we turn to our political panel, amy walter, publisher and editor-in-chief of the cook political report, senior white house and political correspondent, ed o'keefe is here, and nick timiraos, chief economic correspondent for "the wall street journal" is also at the table. good morning to all of you. >> good morning.

>> amy, we just heard anthony's scenario here. this is not a red wave, but it is a republican majority. does it match with what you're seeing? >> yeah. i think the way that anthony pointed it out is a very smart way of thinking about this. you know, elections, normally midterm elections, the challenge for the in-party is usually their own side doesn't turn out. that's where the other side is much more motivated and you see those big, big gains like we saw in 1994 or 2010 on the part of republicans. this year we're seeing republicans and democrats are motivated. republicans a little bit more. democrats feel pretty good that they're at least getting more of their base turned out. now, young voters being always a challenge for democrats. look, i think what happened over the course of the summer is that the issues surrounding abortion rights, plus the focus on donald trump, january 6th, and, quite

frankly, a little better of an economic picture, gave a boost of enthusiasm to democrats and got them energized in terms of the voters, more energized to turn out. but it feels as if that has pretty much stalled. it hit this point and it hasn't gone much further. instead, where the focus is now, it's no longer -- as much about abortion or donald trump, and much more about the things that anthony pointed out, which is the economy, gas prices and people feeling, quite frankly, pretty stuck. >> and we frame this as sort of a choice with -- and, ed, in some of these recent mpolitical ads, in maloney's district, they're changing the focus to be about extremism. not even talking about the affirmative case, but fear the other side. >> right. not only in the realm of democracy and those concerns, but in the realm of abortion rights and social security and medicare being ripped up or rethought.

i watched maloney this week actually make that exact argument to a bunch of seniors in an assisted living facility. he says, if you don't think they might not come after social security and medicare, look what they did to abortion rights after 50 years. that's a way to make both arguments at the same time, and that's the kind of pivoting they've done here, now realizing abortion isn't as urgent an issue. part of the reason, one republican i talked to this week said, look, you look at mothers across the country who may be concerned about abortion rights, but they're not necessarily bumping up against the issue of abortion rights every day. they're bumping up against the fact that beef is costing three times as it did before. the more urgent economic issues may be drawing people back to the republican side. >> i want to come back to the issue of abortion in a second. nick, can you pick up on this, because our poll shows 69% of voters describe the condition of the national economy as bad. only 27% say it's good. you've got a piece saying, out in the journal, saying basically

american consumers are doing pretty well. so, why don't they feel that way? >> yeah, that's a great question, margaret. the issue here is that if you look at the labor market, 3.5% unemployment rate, what's not to like about that? but if you look at, you know, what's happening with wages, they are not keeping up with prices. we had another report friday that shows americans' wages are not keeping up with prices. there are real income cuts. nobody likes that. you drive by the gas station, you see how expensive gas is and you look at what's happening with interest rates, they've gone up a lot this year. mortgage rates this week are above 7% for the 30-year fixed rate mortgage. we haven't seen that since 2001. yes, on paper, you know, there are things you can point to that look great, but people don't feel great about it. >> we have this fd meeting in the coming days. what are the conversations inside the federal reserve right now about when inflation gets better and what they plan to do? >> the pro blem for the fed is monetary policy takes time.

it acts with a delay on the economy. you can't see the moves right away. the fed this year has raised interest rates as the fastest pace since the 1980s. normally they raise rates by a quarter point every six weeks or so. this year they've been going three-quarters of a percentage point. when you don't have time to see how that influences the economy, it's like barrelling down the highway but using the rearview mirror to guide where you're going. it raises the risk that you're going to drive off the road. and the problem here for the fed is, they can't take a risk of not getting on top of this inflation because even though the risk of doing too much is a recession, the risk of not doing enough is that inflation just stays high and you have to have a bigger downturn later. >> and, i mean, those are the details of it. that is monetary policy. what is it that republicans are actually arguing, ed, they can do? because really, the reality is, their hands are pretty tied here. >> they are. if you read their websites, if you listen to what they say, they want to cut government

spending and, in some cases, they want to see implementation of the bipartisan infrastructure bill that either they voted for and they don't want to admit will help their districts even if they voted against it. go ahead. >> that's the bottom line. when you're in charge and things are going well, you get the credit, a lot of which you don't deserve. when you're in charge and things aren't going well, you get the blame, even if you're not to blame. when you're the out party, you get the benefit of the doubt because voters are saying, well, i don't know if ed can really fix this, but these folks in charge aren't doing a very good job. let's just put it -- let's just give them a shot, which is why democrats are doing the extremism thing. if people are upset with the status quo, whi thelearly are, democrats' only chance to hold on in some of these senate races is to say the only risk is taking a risk on the other side. staying with a status quo you don't like is uncomfortable but

not as bad. >> the problem for the biden administration and the democrats is a lot of their accomplishments will take time to implement. they can talk about all these things in the abstract but the voter can't see it yet. the president may know, come to my re-election if i'm running in 2024, people will see what i did but they won't see it before november 8th. >> it's also hard to message around market forces. >> kind of? >> an energy analyst i speak to was pointing out, the chief of staff for the president tweets daily about the price of gas. he says, why are they trying to own something they cannot control? >> that is a question that the white house chief of staff is going to have to answer for. not only is why are they tweeting about something they can't control, why is he tweeting so much to begin with every morning about this and other issues when he, perhaps, should be running the white house? i've heard this from democrats. i think we'll hear it more from the democrats after the elections if it goes south for them. it is an obsession because they know it is the psychological and

the sort of data barometer we've all used to measure inflation and the discussion about the economy. but, yeah, it is something completely out of their control. and perhaps by doing that, it's -- as that energy analyst noted t may have drawn too much attention to the president and allows him to take more of the blame. >> nick, in the journal you have a survey of economists putting the probability of recession over the next 12 months as 63%. so, that is the congress that republicans would be walking in to control. >> yeah. and the issue here is, the economy is slowing. we knew it was going to slow because we had a boom last year. but if it doesn't slow enough, if consumers keep spending the savings they've accrued during the pandemic, then that just means the fed is going to come in and raise interest rates more. this week we'll get close to 4% on the policy rate that the fed sets. but we could go closer to 5% next year. and, you know, there's a fed chairman who used to say that it was the fed's job to take the

punch bowl away as the party was getting started. that's what you're seeing this year.s past week from united, visa, coca-cola, if consumers keep spending, jay powell will get on the phone and call the cops and say, we have to get the noise volume down. we have to get these people to go home because this is not sustainable to have inflation continuing to run higher and higher and higher. >> that's hard to explain sometimes. things -- some things are going to get more expensive by design. it's going to get more expensive for you to borrow money because of what's happening. coming back to the issue of abortion, amy and ed, i think it's interesting the dynamic seems to have changed on this in terms of bringing out voters up. were saying, ed, people feel inflation, perhaps, is a more immediate crisis than abortion access. i wonder, amy, because it's so different state by state. >> it's quite interesting, actually.

we're seeing democratic, especially candidates for the house, having the most trouble is actually in blue states, like the of as py rnia, places where well settled. these are moatic-rtate codified or it's democratic and the governors' candidates have all pledged to go forward in that way. it's the red and purple states, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, where we know that this issue is not settled and where, in michigan, of course, they have a ballot initiative as well as a governor's race. you have governor races in those other states. there's much more of a friction there about a decision being determined by your vote this november. that's not as apparent in some of these blue states. >> and then the fact that they have to run into new york, oregon, the president's going to new mexico this week, it all speaks to the fact that perhaps they miscalculated how abortion would work in those states and

how much money republicans have to spend right now in the closing weeks to really put a bunch of democrats on the ropes. >> good to have all three of you here. thank you very much. that's going to do it for us at "face the nation" today. thank you for watching. tune in next tuesday, election day. i can't believe that. wow. starting at 5:00 p.m. on our streaming network with a special edition of "red and blue," and we'll be on both the broadcasts and streaming networks starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern time through the night and into the mrning. for "face the nation," i'm margaret brennan.

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