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tonight, the president of france speaks with "60 minutes" at the palace in paris. >> thank you so much. and in washington, during an important state visit. about the most pressing issues facing america and its most historic ally. you have said that attacking civilian infrastructures is a war crime. >> this is a war crime.
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france is america's first and oldest ally. offering crucial support both financial and military during our revolution. during the 20th century, americans fought and died on french soil in both world wars. and now once again, the old allies find themselves in a dynamic and dangerous moment with yet another war being fought in europe. this time the french president is emmanuel macron, the youngest ever. who is striving to enhance france's role in the world while
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navigating divisions at home and relations with the u.s., strained by energy, trade and defense issues. we spoke with him thursday at blare house during his state visit to washington with president joe biden. earlier in the week we met the french president in paris at the elysee palace. we met president emmanuel macron as he was preparing for his second state visit to washington, d.c. his first with president joe biden. >> so here was, in fact -- >> reporter: the setting could not have been grander. >> and here is my office. >> reporter: french presidents have run affairs of state from this elysee palace since napoleon iii in 1848. this room the golden salon was a favorite of napoleon iii and his wife eugenia. >> the e and n is for -- >> reporter: today the french equivalent of the oval office. e
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the french president is here. this is where i work. >> reporter: this is magnificent. >> by the way, this is something i got from my first state visit. this key -- and it was brought by -- >> reporter: to the americans. >> to george washington as you know because lafayette, in the american revolution. the original is in the u.s., by the way. this is just a copy for me. >> reporter: emmanuel macron is very much an original, a centrist determined to shake up the status quo. seven months into his second term -- he has survived massive street protests over high costs and taxes, fought off tough electoral challenges from the right and the left, yet exudes an air of youthful optimism. at 44 you are the senior leader
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of europe. is that a comfortable fit? >> yes because you can have both experience and energy. >> reporter: since february, much of his energy has been focussed on the war in ukraine. from the u.s., it can feel a world away. from macron's vantage point, it's a wild fire in the neighborhood. >> russia decided 24th february of this year to launch its war. i think they made a huge, a huge mistake. the first one was not to respect international law and to bridge all the principles they did. and this is a killer for their credibility. and second, because probably they made a lot of mistakes in terms of assessment of their own capacities and the ukrainian capacities.and now what happens
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september, they decided to bomb ofilian infrtructures. their perspective is to despair ukrainian people and to make their life impossible during the wintertime. >> reporter: you have said that attacking civilian infrastructures is a war crime. >> this is a war crime. >> reporter: president macron had hoped to prevent all of this with his own shuttle diplomacy this past winter, flying to moscow to meet one on one with president vladimir putin. it seemed you thought you could talk him out of this. >> indeed this is true that i thought it was feasible to avoid the war at this time. >> reporter: still, emmanuel macron has been determined to keep an open dialogue with president putin. >> i always maintain regular conversations and direct contact with president putin because i believe that the best way to
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re-engage is to preserve this direct channel. it is the worst thing for a leader like him -- isolation. >> reporter: isolation. >> isolation. >> reporter: already the war has caused food and energy prices to skyrocket. how long can the open-ended western support of ukraine go on? >> i think it's extremely important that all of us, meaning european, americans and maximum number of countries in this world do support ukraine. it's clear that russia and especially president putin decided to weaponize at least energy and food, creating a lot of shortages, volatility and inflation. and i think his bet is fatigue. >> reporter: so how does this end? >> i think it's important to
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convey the message that this is the ukrainians to decide that. the only way to find a solution would be through annexations. negotiations. i don't see military option as a way. >> reporter: the french president approaches diplomacy and politics with a cool logic, yet often generates heat. on the eve of his trip to washington, he told us he would be direct with president biden, like he was when they met early in mr. biden's presidency. mr. biden said his first g7 meeting as president that he walked into the room and said the united states is back. and that you said, but for how long? do you doubt that the united states is a consistent and reliable ally? >> if i look at the 20th century, i have no reason to have any doubt about where the u.s. stands.
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when our liberty and values are at stake. but when you look at the recent period of time, some change of administration had big impact on climate change, on iran, on some riches. >> reporter: you mean the trump administration? >> i do. so my point is i want to be allies, i want us to be friends, i want us to be partners. i want to engage with the u.s., but i don't want to be dependent. and i think this is very important because just imagine on your side, would you accept as u.s. citizen to say my security, my future will depend on an election in france? no. i cannot imagine. >> reporter: you think there needs to be a re-synch of relations. how have relations been out of synch? >> i think this administration and president biden personally
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is very much attached to europe, but when you look at the situation today, there is indeed desynchronization. why? energy. europe is a gas and oil buyer. the u.s. is a producer. and when you look at the situation, our industries, now households, are not buying at the same price. so there is a big gap impacting procuring and competitiveness of our societies. >> reporter: with russian natural gas drastically cut, europe is buying more from the u.s. but at a price as much as six times what americans pay. this, at a time when inflation and unemployment in france are hovering around 7%. you have said that's not how friends behave. >> yeah. we are very much engaged together in this war for the same principles. but the cost of this war is not
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the same on both sides of the atlantic. and you should be very aware of that. >> reporter: president macron also points to the inflation reduction act, or i.r.a., new legislation designed to grow green jobs in the u.s. with subsidies and tax credits for electric cars and clean energy manufacturing in north america. >> but they are at this very moment of the war a killer for our industry. >> reporter: a killer for your industry? >> for sure. the u.s. decided two and a half months ago to subsidize much more big green projects, for battery, for hydrogen, for a lot of things. a lot of subsidies is now two to three times higher in the u.s. than in europe. we are totally aligned in this conflict. we work hard. ad i think if the day after the conflict the result is to have a
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weaker europe because a lot of its industry will have been just killed, i do believe it's not in the interest of the u.s. administration and even the u.s. society. i think the main interest is obviously to protect your middle classes, which is a very fair one. i do the same for my country. and it's to be competitive with china. but the result of the recent decision and this momentum, i would say, is it's bad for europe. ♪ >> reporter: president macron brought those concerns to the white house this past thursday. >> we want to build peace. >> reporter: after the pomp and pageantry, the two presidents retired to the oval office and cabinet room, discussed the problems of the world for two hours and emerged unified. >> france is one of our strongest partners. we share the same values and address all challenges together. >> reporter: after meeting with
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members of congress and a half hour before racing off to the state dinner -- >> how are you? >> i'm fine. >> reporter: president macron talked with us at blair house, the presidential guest house. as we were talking in paris, you're a man who likes to be direct and look someone in the eye. so, you're sitting across from president biden. what did you tell him about the challenges, the inflation reduction act is inflicting on your country and your people? >> we had a very good and frank and fruitful discussion. president biden's intention is to make his country stronger, to create jobs here, and at the same time to address climate change issues and to build more green industry in your country. i do share this objective. i do respect this objective. guess what, i have exactly the same for my country. >> reporter: it sounded in the press conference like the two of
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you agreed to disagree or to at least keep talking. what we say in the united states is it sounded like the two of you decided to kick the can down the road? >> no. i don't think so. honestly speaking. it's not an agreement to disagree. this is a strategic agreement. and i think we do share now much more in-depth our strategy on both sides. >> reporter: but you told us in paris that the inflation reduction act is an industry killer, a job killer. >> for europe. >> reporter: for europe. and with unemployment and inflation in france, hovering around 7%, it seems like this is urgent to get a resolution. >> i confirm. this is why i can tell you that what we decided with president biden is precisely to fix this issue. and they are fixable. >> reporter: what can be fixed? he said he could think of some tweaks. >> yeah. >> reporter: some tweaks. is that enough? >> my point was to say it was urgent to raise this issue. i did it.
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it was urgent to dis th at. did. it's urgent to fix it. we can do it. >> reporter: you're the senior politician in europe right now. so when you go back to europe, what do you tell your european partners? was this state visit a success? >> yes, definitely. number one, because we did confirm our total alignment on the ukrainian situation. second, we had a very fruitful and in-depth discussion on this context, ira and the side effects. and we will fix it on the short run. third, we had a lot of convergence on climate change, health, security in africa and a lot of projects. so for me, this is a very good state visit with a lot of very positive outcomes. i can tell you. more from president macron -- >> reporter: should vladimir putin be charged with war
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mozambique's gorongosa national park was the envy of africa. wildlife drew tourists from around the world. but beginning in the 1960s, a man-made catastrophe slaughtered the animals until it was said there was nothing left but mosquitos and land mines. in 2008, we followed an american entrepreneur who dreamed of returning a waste land to greatness. now 14 years later, greg carr has something to show the world and we couldn't resist a return to gorongosa when carr sends by te in t cente this.suns
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n i meanti and you get 100 colors of yellow and 100 colors of orange and then the dusk sets in and then a flock of birds go over the water and there's a hippo over there making a noise and impala over there. and you know, it's like, whoa. i could have been here 100,000 years ago and it might have been the same. >> reporter: greg carr's wonder is almost like disbelief. 1 million acres of africa, reborn. >> when i first came here in 2004, i could drive around with my mozambican friends all day long. and if we were lucky, maybe we would see one bam boon or one wart hog or something. now, we drive around and it's an ocean of wildlife.
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come around the corner, there's a herd of elephants. go the other direction, there's some lion cubs. 10,000 water buck and i say to myself, you know what, nature can rebound. >> reporter: the rebound is in southeast africa near the center of mozambique. here, 28 years of war from the '60s to the '90s killed an estimated 1 million people and wiped out 95% of the wildlife in gorongosa for food and profit. as the war raged in the 1980s, greg carr was a tech entrepreneur who had made a fortune perfecting voice mail. he quit business to devote himself to human rights and in 2004 he met mozambique's president, joaquim chissano, who made a wild pitch. >> and he said, look, please come to mozambique and help us. we want to restore our national park. >> when we flew over this, i said, this is it.
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>> reporter: when we met carr in 2008, his nonprofit foundation had signed a 20-year contract with mozambique. his plan was to import animals from all over africa. >> well, step one, we had to remove 20,000 traps and wire snares that were left in this park, leftover from the war. get rid of all those because when i first came here, i mean, we think we had five or six lions maybe. >> reporter: in a million acres? >> in a million acre. the lions that we did have, most of them had three legs because they had stepped on a trap or something. and then second, some of the species were just gone completely. so we went on a process. first bring in the herbivores. so we bring in 200 buffalo, 200 wield beast and some zebra. then when you have enough herbivores you want the carnivores back. so we reintroduced leopards, we reintroduced hyenas.
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the lions all by themselves their numbers took off. from five or six lions when we started, we now have probably 200. >> reporter: gorongosa's lion conservation is urgent because since 1950, africa's lion population has fallen from half a million to 20,000 due to habitat loss and hunting. we saw how gorongosa is protecting its lions on a mission with park veterinarian antonio paolo. >> okay. >> reporter: paolo fired a tranquilizer dart -- >> right on target. >> reporter: and a 300-pound lioness led us on a chase. >> give space. turn around. turn around. >> reporter: she left us behind, but she couldn't outrun the sedative. there she is. >> she's there sleeping. >> reporter: she would be out for about an hour as dr. paolo changed her failing gps collar. the signal goes to headquarters where they track the prides and
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herds. a bit of ear was nicked for genetic tests and then there was a surprise. you think she's pregnant? >> yeah. she looks pregnant. >> reporter: and there is the future of the park. >> yes, the future cubs of the park. >> reporter: later she awoke and headed out with her future cub. >> i never imagined it would go so well or so fast. in 2018, we did an aerial survey. you know, so counting only the big animals, we counted 100,000 large animals from the air. >> reporter: thrilled as he is, it wasn't wildlife that drew this 63-yeld idahoative ed0,00opleiving ndhe parvs g ona a day.
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>> they didn't have clothes. wearing rags or made clothes out of tree bark and eating insects and trying to catch mice. that's when it struck me, well, this national park is going to have to help the people. >> reporter: today, gorongosa national park employs 1600 workers, tourism brings in cash which goes to the people and to the park. ♪ >> reporter: and greg carr has partnered with the government on healthcare and education. carr is the biggest donor, but u.s. foreign aid kicks in about 6 million a year. >> we now work in 89 primary schools which is every single school that surrounds this national park. we're training 600 schoolteachers right now. now think about how difficult it is to create a school system when you don't have schoolteachers that know how to read and write because of generations of war.
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now something we really focussed on as step one was really vulnerable girls. a lot of times what happens in the poor families around here, a girl turns 13 or 14 hand the family says, well, it's time for her to get married. now, may not be what they actually want, but they don't think there's another choice. this is what happens. and she marries a farmer and that's it. so we started something called the girl's club. >> reporter: there are 3,000 girls in 92 afterschool clubs. the program is led by larissa s-oussa. why is this the job of a conservation park? >> why not. it should be the job for everyone. for everyone. education is for everyone. >> reporter: the clubs provide the resources to get the girls into high school and it gives students an answer to our question, which five years ago, wouldn't have made sense.be?we
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conservation park ranger and another nurse. >> another nurse, yes. when we started the program, they didn't know that they had this choice. >> reporter: and now they do. >> now they do. >> this land belongs to these people. they've been here forever. it's their animals. it's their land. it's their trees. it's their cultural and spiritual heritage. right? it's an idea that came from my hero, nelson mandela. the idea was to create a human rights park. what does that mean, right? a park that cares about the people. a park that belongs to the people. instead of a park turning its back to the people, opening itself to its people, this is your park, these are your animals, these are your opportunities. ♪ >> reporter: we saw those opportunities on mount gorongosa, which was stripped foundation is giving away coffee
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trees. than ever, so they can't plant trees fast enough. which reforests the mountain. carr's foundation buys the beans at above the market rate and built the farmers a roasting plant. there's no better example of carr's model for lifting people and healing the wild. it's working. but the last 14 years haven't been sweet music alone. since we were here in 2008 -- >> yes. >> reporter: there have been enormous roadblocks to this project. >> that's right. if i had known then what was going to come -- >> reporter: what came was another civil war in 2013. and then in 2019 a cyclone levelled 100,000 homes.
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>> okay. there was the six years of war and then the cyclone. when the cyclone hit, basically every one of our employees became a first responder. so in other words, oh, there's an elephant right there. >> reporter: well, there certainly is. >> i just have to stop and say hello to the elephant. >> reporter: we couldn't find the wildlife in 2008. >> and now they're interrupting our interview. >> reporter: and now they're walking in on the interview. [ laughter ]. >> well -- >> reporter: was there ever a time that you thought to yourself, i did my best, but this just isn't going to be humanly possible. >> not for a second. not for one second. >> reporter: with the cyclones, with the return of the civil war -- >> i just think every time something like that happens it just makes you more determined, not less determined.
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and when you've got people suar help or people suffering in a cyclone that need help, you're more committed. you don't lose commitment at a time like that. ♪ >> reporter: we saw commitment in the rangers who protect the park. ♪ >> reporter: for the flora and the fauna they sing, we will die for our park. part of what they protect are endangered species, including this mammal with a bottomless taste for termites. pangolins are hunted for their scales, swhich are prized in fok medicine. veterinarian angela told us that pangolins ride on their mother's backs. hello there. but we found any back will do. that's funny. he just naturally goes right up to the shoulder and hangs on your back. >> yeah. >> reporter: powerful tail. >> tail, yeah, the tail is very powerful. they are also used for .orr: why
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ing? i'm rith i , >> yes, it's a wild animal. >> success, ay? >> reporter: but for us, the most interesting animal in the park is greg carr, an entrepreneur with the empathy to see, the humility to listen, and the optimism to act. his business model is creating a new ecosystem where animals that were hunted are suddenly worth much more alive. how much of your personal fortune have you put into this? >> well, well i would like to keep that a secret but unfortunately i think, you know, you could probably do the math and figure it out. it's more than $100 million. my message to anybody with money is, i mean, what are you going to do? stick it all in your casket? why not enjoy the joy of philanthropy.
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old spy isis. not the case for pool. the sports very name comes from pooling money to determine odds and wagering lends pool mystique. hustling in pool go together like a cue stick and chalk. but that's as much a curse as a blessing. how can a sport thrive at the highest level when so much of it exists in the shadows? well, here comes shane van boening from rapid. age 39 with no interest in gambling, he's arguably the best american player ever to break a rack and ranked number one in the world for 2022. he also happens to be deaf. can the south dakota kid help turn pool, popular in bars and basements but not on tv, into a proper pro sport? we hit the circuit with him to find out. >> reporter: another day, another casino hotel. shane van in year on the road p professional pool. today, he's clocking in early at
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the jam boarboree, the derby city classic. held every january outside louisville, derby city is a colorful expression of the split personality. downstairs felt ocean drawing dozens of the world's best practitioners. they compete 12 hours a day for nine days in multiple events. this winner is smiling ear to ear and his check tops out at $16,000. but upstairs, it's a different economy. behold pool's zestier side. popup action room, standing room only where pros, amateurs and wannabes alike come to the table for unofficial competition. the signs say no smoking and no gambling. and we sure didn't see any smoking. ten, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars, big timber, they call it, change hands until the sun comes up. one player we didn't see v boing, generational talent known for his killer break.
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van boening has won the u.s. open five times and been named player of the decade. deaf since birth, he wears hearing aids and shuts down any question this makes it harder for him to play pool. >> it's actually a bigger advantage for me. >> reporter: how is that? >> when i play pool tournament, i can shut it off. >> reporter: do you shut your hearing aids off when you play? >> yeah, when i won my first u.s. open, i had everything off. i was focussed. >> reporter: total silence. >> yes. i'm totally 100% zoned in. >> reporter: never more zoned in than in 2018 when he led the united states to victory over europe at the moscony cup, pool's answer to ryder cup. >> he is going for it. >> reporter: he closed it off with an off angle, long distance 1-9 combo. high risk/high reward pressure-packed shot. what a shot! have made that shot?d team usa!
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we went to rapid city, south dakota, a side pocket of america, to van boening's pool hall, where he explained that making balls disappear into pockets is only half of pool excellence. it's also about setting up your next shots. cue ball control, they call it. >> i will make the cue ball stop right here so i can shoot the 2 in the side. and then i'm going -- >> reporter: you did that how? how did you do that? >> just hit it right below center. >> reporter: so now it lines up that next ball perfectly? >> yeah. >> reporter: i'm so struck by the geometry of all that. >> yeah. i love geometry. it's all about the angles. >> reporter: van boening says he can see every angle on the table, a sixth sense that comes from practicing as much as ten hours a day, shooting half a million balls a year. >> i want to make the shot perfect. only way to hit it perfect, you have to do it over and over and over. >> reporter: can you be perfect in this sport? >> no.
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i tried so hard all these years. >> reporter: van boening comes by it honestly. his grandfather gary bloomberg known trick shot artist opened pool halls off i-90. easy access for hustlers passing across the great plains, but these rooms were family-friendly places. so much so shane got his first pool cue when he was 2 and went to the poolroom everyday after school. not just to play, but to escape kids who picked on him for being deaf. how bad did it get? >> the kids would start throwing rocks at me. they would put gum in my hair. then i would go home to my mom. i would be going home crying, you know. and then she made me feel better by asking me, do you want to go to the poolroom? >> reporter: why did coming to the poolroom make you feel better? >> when you walk in the poolroom, what do you see? you see people having a good time. >> reporter: but it was more than that. he had prodigious ability for thinking multiple strokes ahead. when van boening was 18, he hit
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the road. he and his uncle loaded into an rv looking for money games. >> came to play pool. >> reporter: of course they did. the hustler, that's stealth road man armed only with a wooden stick and confidence, divorcing the locals from their cash, been romanticized for decades, not least by paul newman. this reporter was so taken by pool hustling he once wrote a book about it. for van boening, the romance hit the rocks. abruptly. >> yeah. i actually was playing poolroom in tennessee and i would find this guy for money. and we were playing for a whole lot. he was losing. and he picked up the cue ball and threw it at me. >> reporter: where did he hit you? >> right on the chest. >> reporter: it's the kind of thing you do to start a fight. >> yeah. >> reporter: how did you react? >> i told my uncle. i said i don't want to do this anymore. i don't want to live on the road anymore. just too dangerous. >> here we go, for the title. >> reporter: he chose to go legit and began playing and winning proper tournaments.he
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raling gambling lifen boeng enj professional. did you worry that coming in off the road was going to impact your finances? >> i know some of the pool players, the top pool players were making money, so if they can do it, i can do it. >> reporter: but pool is a deceptively tricky sport. >> next up, two super powers collide. >> reporter: just ask jason shaw, another top player, his counterpart. earlier this year shaw holed up in a virginia poolroom for five days and broke the straight pool record making 714 shots in a row. >> the stuff that happens in pool will completely screw your brain up. >> reporter: what do you mean? >> you'll see shots. you'll be like, how did that happen? you'll hear that how did that land over there or did you see how that went in? in pool you see something weird that will happen. >> reporter: that make it more exhilarating and frustrating? >> both. mentally you want to flip the table at some point. >> reporter: you ever flip the
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table? >> no, i thought about it a few times. >> reporter: people come in, how hard can it be? just a rectangle with six the guy is scratching his head like i thought this was easy. it's not. >> reporter: we watched you at derby city play jason shaw. >> jason who? >> reporter: yeah. is he a rival? >> yeah. it's been going on for several years now. he's a great player. and we're always going to have a battle. >> reporter: you okay with that? >> yeah. you have to accept losing. if you don't accept losing, you're going to go crazy. >> how thick is this ice right here? >> reporter: having a rival is central to being an elite athlete, so is this, leaving time to clear your head. so it was we found ourselves following shane van boening out on to a lake in the black hills. van boening goes fishing, season didn't h .
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we did cat vugh,is take on the virtues of complete silence. vanity plate not with standing, few extravagances come with being number one in the pool. the rag tag pro tour barely televised in the u.s. struggles to draw much interest or investment outside of pool die hards. how many sponsors do you have? >> i have six sponsors. >> cues and tables and pool products? >> yes. >> reporter: any sponsors outside of pool? >> no. >> reporter: what can a top player make? >> top player in pool can make only six figures. after expenses, maybe five figures. >> reporter: no one is making a million bucks. >> no. it's never happened. >> reporter: van boening says cleaning up the sport, doing away with back room money games would lure big corporate sponsors, big media deals and grow professional pool. we saw firsthand his discomfort with gambling and all that comes
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with it. when we interviewed you in derby city, i don't know if you remember, the interview was interrupted. do you recall what happened? >> oh, the gambler? is that what happened? yeah. >> reporter: it was morning at derby city and the action upstairs from the night before was still simmering. [ bleep ]. >> are they arguing? >> reporter: over the course of a few minutes, two players who bet on a game nearly came to blows. >> you cannot gamble, you know. >> reporter: van boening could only shake his head. >> got to be a clean sport. >> reporter: enter pro pool's unlikely new guardian, emily frazier of the british sports promoter. the company recently revamped pro darts and snooker in the uk, streamlining their circuits and turning top players into celebrities who make millions. frazier is tasked with doing the same for pool. and she says gamblin t leof her worries.
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>>eportehy du say olute mes d in 201 oh myh, t players turned up. they were in jeans. when i'm going, hang on a second, what's happening here? why is this guy turning up in jeans? >> reporter: frazier asked pro e e won'ask them to give up their side hustles. >> now, all of the basement tables and the money matches, i think that's brilliant. and that -- >> reporter: you do? >> yeah. i think it's fantastic because it has the history behind it. >> reporter: you're okay if people are gambling and playing money games? >> as far as i'm concerned in a couple years time, they won't need to have any money downstairs. >> reporter: it will be obsolete. the market will do its thing. >> exactly. right now it's not viewed as this professional sport. and it has all the ingredients to be one. >> reporter: she standardized the format, commercialized sponsor friendly nine ball, not the solids and stripes eight ball you've likely played. in october, at the u.s. open, held in atlantic city, frazier
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brought in bigger live audiences and ramped up tv production. she's kept one pool hallmark, the smoke-filled room. close but not cigar. there's a machine puffing away in the corner. when the smoke cleared, there was shane van boening. he was fresh off winning his first world championship. sealing his status atop the sport. he confided to us he slept with the trophy for a month. van boening is mobbed at pool tournaments but can still walk through an airport unbothered. >> he is no lebron james. i totally understand that. and i recognize that. and it's our job to turn that around. it is our responsibility to turn that world number one prize money from $80,000 to 1 million, so it's prize money. it's more events and let's get these players known. you've got to fall in love with them. >> reporter: are they lovable? >> yes, some of them. >> reporter: the health of the
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sport also depends on minting a new generation of elite players, so this tournament had a junior division held alongside the pros and named, what else, the shane van boening junior open. >> reporter: these are future pros? >> definitely. definitely. they have so much passion for the game. i'm going to shoot this. >> reporter: back at the pool hall in rapid city, we experienced pools highs and lows in the same hour. you didn't even let me hit a ball. ever the sport's gentleman, shane van boening wouldn't let us leave without setting us up to sink a trick shot. pool may or may not clean up its act, but any sport that can provide this pure, simple thrill -- go right down the middle. >> yep, right down the middle. >> reporter: you reckon it will survive just fine. oh! you got that.
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