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justice, along with white house counsel and the president's personal attorney. we'll have more on that in a moment. we want to begin with the very latest on that shooting in monterey park, california, and our kris van cleave is on the scene. >> reporter: margaret, good morning. a lot of unanswered questions face investigators this morning. the work at the scene here continues. the fbi and local police still here. the suspect has not been identified. at last report was still on the loose. the motive, the why for all of this, that remains a mystery. >>hree anor the crati of new nar new year turns to tragedy. the it came as the event was wrapping up outside monterey park. authorities believe a lone gunman open fire killing ten, injuring ten others, some critically. >> when officers arrived on scene they observed numerous

individuals pouring out of the location, screaming. the officers made entry to the location and located additional victims. >> reporter: the mass shooting took place inside a ballroom dance club a little before 10:30 saturday night. >> all i can tell you, it was a firearm that was used. >> reporter: monterey park is a community of 62,000, almost two-thirds of the population is asian. the lunar new year celebration is a big attraction. witnesses said they first thought the shots were fireworks. >> i thought, fireworks? it's spre surprising, shocking to hear that something like this went on in not only a small city, but my city. >> reporter: according to some witnesses, the shooter appeared to be firing indiscriminately. the lunar new year festivities here in monterey park attract about 100,000 people a day. it's a two-day event. all of the plans for today have

been canceled. we understand police are at a second location a few miles from here in a neighboring city. the sherst may be related to the shooting here. we're still waiting for details on that. >> kris van cleave, thank you. we'll come back to you later in the show if there is any new development. right now we go to our chief national affairs and justice correspondent jeff. what are you hearing about this investigation? had. >> it's ongoing in terms of tracking down who this person is. the question is, what kind of weapon was involved here? is it a hate crime? some of the initial questions that law enforcement, whether local and federal, are asking right now. >> so, why are federal investigators involved in it at that point? how do they determine things like motive? >> here's what i think law enforcement has an advantage. in this phase of an investigation, when you have a

suspect still out there, having the help of the fbi, the atf. the atf, for one, can trace the weapon, the origin of these fbik ss t country. >> at this point, all we're hearing is that it was a firearm. why is that significant in terms of the type of weapon? >> well, it looks like, based on the amount of wounded and dead, that this was a high-powered sort of weapon. whether it was semi-automatic or automatic, it could unleash several rounds a minute. so, investigators are going to look at that as they try to process the scene as it unfolded moment to moment. >> how -- i mean, when you hear that the shooter is still potentially on the loose here, what happens in a scenario like that? >> we don't see in terms of active shooter situations like this, mass shooting situations like this, you don't see a lot of suspects who do the act and

then take off. in many cases, they will take their own life. so, this is an interesting case that way. that investigators are still searching for the suspect. they haven't not, at this time, released a description of the suspect or what kind of vehicle this person could or may bin. and so there's still a lot of questions about the investigation going forward in terms of tracking that suspect down, which is so rare in situations like this. >> jeff pegues, i'll let you get back to making calls. thank you. now to the other big breaking news story we're covering today. last night we learne that on friday the fbi executed what the white house is calling a comprehensive search of president biden's wilmington, delaware, home and took possession of six more items with classification markings. the search, which mr. biden's attorneys say began with full

cooperation, began at 9:45 a.m. and wrapped up around 10:30 p.m. president biden's personal attorney bob bauer said in a statement that the department of justice had, quote, full access to all the materials in the wilmington home and that the search included personally handwritten notes, files, papers, binders, memorabilia, to-do lists, schedules and reminders going back decades. bauer also said that some of the items taken were both from mr. biden's tenure as vice president and from his years in the senate. cbs news does not know the level of classification for the six new items that were retrieved friday, but at this point we do know that the number of known classified documents that have been recovered since november 2nd is between 25 and 30. the department of justice is considering searches of other locations tied to the president. the one friday was overseen by u.s. attorney john lausch.

mr. biden dodged questions about the document investigation most of last week, but on thursday reiterated that he was fully cooperating with the investigation and hoped it would soon be concluded. >> i have no regrets. i'm following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do. it's exactly what we're doing. there's no there there. thank you. >> we go now to ohio congressman mike turner. he is expected to head up the house intelligence committee. good morning to you. >> good morning, margaret. thank you for having me. >> so, we have this devolvement in regard to the further materials found at president biden's delaware home. what is your reaction? and what does it signify to you that no one realized that this classified material was missing, some of it dating back to his senate years? >> this is really incredible. as you know, congratulations to you. we would not know anything about you if it hadn't been cbs had broken this story. the white house nor the

department of justice had shared any of the information with the public. and this really is one matter, we wouldn't have this issue if it hadn't been for biden's attorney general making the decision to raid former president trump's house, looking for classified documents that were being held there. what's amazing about all this is it takes us to the question of why were these documents here? now we learned some of these go back to his senate time, you know, clearly he's become a serial classified document hoarder. why did he have these? who did he show them to? the only reason you can think why anyone would take classified documents out of a classified space and home is to show them to somebody? who did he show them to? this is going to be crucial to the special counsel's investigation, is why did the president have these documents? who did he show them to? is it connected to the biden family businesses? >> you know the differences, of course, to -- i want to talk about the biden situation, but just to clarify when you reference president trump, there were 300 classify the documents,

there was a warrant, there was refusal to comply in terms of handing things over, and the white house and the president's lawyer are pointing out in the case of biden, he granted permission and this was consensual for the doj to come in and search. does the fact that the justice department conducted the search signify anything more to you? do have you any insight into the sensitivity of the documents? >> sure, absolutely. i think this looks more like a cover-up than an investigation. >> do you have any facts to back up your allegations that he was hoarding things in terms of intention to take classified material versus it's been characterized that it was somehow accidental. do you have any insight into what these materials were? >> well, they didn't fly to his home without him. they went on a train with him from his senate offices and then in boxes that he was in charge of. the chain of custody here is going to be important because we know that these were in joe biden's hands and joe biden's control and ended up behind his corvette in his garage and in

his office that he did not control. and also throughout his house. so, the -- the special counsel's going to have to deal with the issue of, what was the chain of custody? who had these? why de take them to begin with? when was he handed these documents and what did he do with them? this is a real critical question to all of this -- why did he have these documents to begin with? that is why the special counsel's work is going to be really important. i can think of no reason why the president should have taken home, as a senator or as vice president, any classified documents that clearly have no protection, they're available and open to anybody. >> you have also before this development asked for a briefing from the director of national intelligence. you set a deadline of thursday. do you have any reason to believe you will meet that deadline, you will get any insight into these materials? >> we'll have to see. what's critical -- >> they haven't responded? >> this is what's very important to all of this, margaret, that

is the fbi and the national archivists were working completely independent of the intelligence community or the department of defense. they claim this was all an issue of national security, but they did not speak to anyone who's involved in national security. >> so no response yet from the intelligence community? >> i have not received a response, no. >> i also want to ask you what leadership looks like with republicans in charge. you are also on house oversight. >> correct. >> of the 26 republican members on the committee, 19 of them denied the results of the 2020 election. your colleagues now include marjorie taylor greene, paul goe sar, lauren boebert, scott perry, they all played critical roles in the former president's attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. do you have any concerns about working with these lawmakers? i mean, you're very much a centrist. >> well, you know, even on the democrat side there's been a number of people who objected to

president bush's re-election and voted against certified his election. >> i'm asking about you, your party and your colleagues. >> there's a long history of both sides having raised issues, including, you recall, the al gore taking president bush -- >> you're not an election denier, by cbs standards. >> there are election deniers on both sides of at isle. >> you're comfortable with all those individuals i just rattled off and the fact that the majority of the republicans on this committee denied election results? is that what you're saying? >> what i'm comfortable with is the electorate are very smart. they have been sent to congress to represent their districts and be part of the congressional debate to lead us to what is going to be bipartisan, bicameral resolutions. we have a split government right now. republicans control the house. the senate is controlled by the democrats. you have a democrat president. we're going to have a lot of debate and discussions. i think this is going to be a

very fruitful period for congress and for our country because it's going to have to be bipartisan, bicameral. i believe the president in opening negotiations with the republicans is starting that process. >> what is actually possible in this bipartisan, bicameral situation? what can you get legislation through? >> depending on what the president is willing to do, it's unli unlimited. we have out of control inflation, we have an open border and record people crossing our borders. >> what about gun control? >> we have the issue of russia and certainly ukraine and certainly china. i think we're going to have a number of issues that we're going to have to deal with. >> all right. congressman turner, we have to leave it there today. >> thank you, margaret. "face the nation" will be back in one minute. stay with us.

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you. it was last night, probably around 7:00 or so when we got the email from the president's attorney and the discovery of this latest discovery of documents. this drip, drip, drip now continues. >> it is. it's by design now. the personal attorney making clear they withheld the information until after the search was conducted at his home in delaware. this is how we're going to be learning about things. once things are taken by the justice department, in this case an fbi search of a sitting president's home, a pretty extraordinary development in this case, and something we've not seen before, but a step they made very clear, they took voluntarily, they were there for this, attorneys were, and they took away six more items marked classified. for now a total of about 25 to 30 classified documents found in -- at his former office here in washington and then at his home in delaware. it raises questions about, what was that material? what more could be found?

where else might they search? >> right. and what the classification level is? the reporting on this is continuing, but the politics, bob, as you know, were laid bare there with congressman turner talking about outrage, frankly, that in so many different locations these materials could have been found. it changes the calculus for republicans and gives them an advantage, frankly, politically to make this argument. >> the republicans remain confrontational with this white house. they see divided government as an opportunity, especially in the house where they have majority, to continue this investigation, even as the justice department continues it's own investigation. you have the judiciary chairman jim jordan mounting his own investigation of the fbi and the justice department and the intelligence agencies. this also comes politically at a moment of transition for the biden white house. ron klain, the chief of staff, has signaled he will be departing his position in key

months. he's helped biden work on signature legislation like the american rescue plan and he's lasted quite a long time for a chief of staff, two years. >> i'm glad you bring that up. the other thing that the departure of the chief of staff raises questions about is this looming policy and political conversation about the debt ceiling. who runs point on that? obviously the treasury secretary is a huge role, but in terms of talking to the hill and negotiations, who's doing that if the chief of staff is leaving? >> what i'm told from people inside the west wing is president biden himself has a relationship with mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader, of course with chuck schumer, they are in some ways going to try to cut out speaker kevin mccarthy and the house republicans. there's not an appetite among house republicans to put a spending bill on the table at all. jim clyburn recently told me he could see a scenario where centrist house republicans band together with house democrats

for a clean debt limit extension. >> and that outreach is under way. we've heard from the white house saying they are trying to reach out to these new members. there's going to be a meeting this week with newly elected members to come to the white house to say hello and one of the ways they'll try to work this, are there enough republicans out there, maybe in districts that the president won or just know they'll face a tough re-election who can be at least talked to about the risks and the potential to work together on this issue. >> but clarify that. when you say cut out the speaker of the house, are you saying it's 212 democrats plus however many, 15 or more, republicans they can pull over rather than republicans moving to lift the debt ceiling? >> what i'm hearing is many more moderate centrist house republicans, those who are traditional republicans, are looking at this and they don't want to get in front of mccarthy. they know he has to meet with biden in the coming weeks and tell the president he wants this and that in terms of a coming deal. if a deal falls apart, they're starting to have back-channel

conversations of could a co-aligs of 10 to 15 house republicans get together with 200-plus democrats to get a clean extension through the house. >> thnot the prettiest way to d it but worth talking about. >> when you talk about, bob, leader mcconnell and president biden, they have history going back to the last time -- >> you're so right. >> -- we went to the brink with the debt ceiling in 2011. but the politics are even more complicated than they were back then. how do they carry out this strategy? i feel like you're laying out on espn the different potential strategies on the playing field here. >> privately, i'm told president biden and senator mcconnell have chuckled behind the scenes with long-time friends about how at this stage in divided government it's these two men who have long been friends who are being counted upon to, perhaps, cut a deal. i remember when i first started covering congress a decade ago, i would remember vice president biden would come to the capitol

to meet with mcconnell to cut a deal on the fiscal cliff. so they have history and were recently in kentucky together, showing at least not political solidarity, but in terms of a personal relationship, there's a real rapport. >> but politically, this still is something we're going to be -- it can be very complicated. i mean, you can't completely cut the house out of the situation, right? >> you can't, you can't. look, this is also helpful for the white house. one of the things they want to keep doing, other than talking about that potential fight, other than talking about this search of his home over the week -- on friday, is about the economy. so, you can go out there as president, as a cabinet secretary, as the vice president and say, look, the economy is on the rebound. we seem to have held off inflation for the most part. things are in decent shape. it's going to get much worse if republicans allow this brinksmanship to continue, and even worse if they go after things like carving into social security and medicare to pay for things. >> that's the third rail and then you add in cutting defense

spending and that also becomes problematic. it seems republicans are shifting the conversation in some way to the need to have a conversation about fiscal spending. >> that is exactly right. and keep an eye on senator joe manchin of west virginia. he is telling his colleagues he is open to having a discussion about spending cuts. as many top democrats say, hey, we want a clean extension, they now have senator manchin ask a few others saying, maybe we should negotiate. so there's a tension point in that area. >> we'll see if there are other senate democrats willing, and maybe we'll talk to them on the snow. thank you. we have virginia senator tim kaine standing by, but we have technical issues, so stay with us. est minds in medicine. this is a leading healthcare system with five nationally ranked hospitals, including two world-renowned academic medical centers. in boston, where biotech innovates daily and our doctors teach at harvard medical school and the physicians doing the world-changing research

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we're back with democratic senator tim kaine of virginia. i know you have dealt with a number of mass shootings as governor and senator in the state of virginia.

i wonder your thoughts on monterey park this morning. >> margaret, it's just like scar tissue that keeps getting reopened every time these things happen. we're reminded in virginia of the shooting at virginia tech in april of 2007. my heart goes out to this community. i'm worried that the perpetrator is still at large. let's first make sure law enforcement has the support to catch him and we need to support the survivors and all of those affected. senator, we have to take a quick break. we'll talk to you more on the other side of it.

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