independent prosecutor. how many documents are we do?a haor hundreds? how serious are they? why were they taken? did anyone have access to them? and then is the president being cooperative? i think by all accounts it suggests, yes, of course he's being cooperative, as anyone should be. but these are the reasons why this independent prosecutor and an investigation is necessary. >> yeou're one of the few senat democrats who have said you have concern about this issue. i wonder, how concerned you are and politically, doesn't this damage the white house and the president in terms of trust and credibility? >> well, again, those questions do depend on the answer to the -- we'll get in this investigation. margaret, you know this, government has a tendency to overclassify. if they are looking at a document and they have to

analyze, decide whether to classify, sometimes they just mark it classified. i'll read it in the scif and say margaret was reporting on that a month ago or "the washington post" has been telling me this for the last six months. you have to see what's the scope, how serious, did anyone have access? those questions have to be answered before we decide, is this -- how significant an issue is this. >> right. that may take some time. i want to ask you about the business that congress will have to get to soon. as you know, the white house wants a clean lift to the debt limit with no strings attached. senator manchin said it's a mistake for the white house to refuse to negotiate with republicans. do you think that position is changing? is it a mistake? >> well, first, we should have a clean lift of the debt ceiling because the 14th amendment to the institution says nobody should question the creditworthiness of the united states. this is about whether we pay our

credit card. i don't think anyone should flirt with not paying the u.s.'s credit card. they are correct, we should raise the debt ceiling. if republicans are saying, they won't do it and threat ending our creditworthiness, let them put cuts on the table? is it cutting medicare or cutting aid to ukraine in the middle of a war between a democracy and illegally invading dictator? let them put on the table what they want to cut so the american public can see what their priorities are. >> speaker mccarthy says the president has invited him to speak -- have a conversation and to discuss a responsible lift to the debt ceiling. so, what does that mean? how does this politically get dressed up so we avoid the cliff? >> well, at first, that's a good thing. i'm very, very happy that the president and speaker mccarthy are talking. that's really positive. how do we fix this? jeff merkley and i have a bill that's based upon an earlier fix

that senator mcconnell led during the obama administration, when there was a similar brinksmanship around the debt ceiling. senator mcconnell said, look, we'll allow the president to raise it subject to a congressional disapproval. that was done. we think that should be the norm anyway. we have a bill called the protect our credit act that would basically say the president has got to cover the debts of the united states. if that includes raising the debt ceiling, the president can do that. but if congress disapproves, then you can have an expedited up or down vote in congress. i think that's the right solution to this. >> before i let you go, you're on armed services. how concerned are you that secretary of defense austin left germany with no agreement among western allies to provide tanks to ukraine? >> margaret, there are some differences about exactly what and what's the timing in terms of providing equipment. but we have assembled a global coalition to support ukraine. the unity has been very strong and the support, bipartisan and

bicameral in congress has been very strong, and i think that will continue. >> senator kaine, thank you for your time today. >> absolutely. some of the nation's mayors are in town. the first line of defense in every city, as you all know. stay with us. we'll be right back. hi, i'm jason and i've lost 202 pounds on golo. when you have to get wheeled through the airport because you're too heavy to make it and you have extreme pain, you have to make a change. golo enabled me to make that change. golo is real and it changes your life.

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we're back now with four of our nation's mayors. francis suarez is the mayor of miami and head of u.s. conference of mayors. latoya cantrell is the mayor of new orleans. atlanta mayor, andre dickens along with john giles, the mayor of mesa, arizona. good morning to all of you and thank you so much for being here in person. i want to talk about just what is developing in terms of the shooting in california. nationwide, we are seeing this spike in violent crime. we're seeing reports of an uptick in anti-semitism and hate crimes. all of you are from states where there are fairly permissive gun

laws. and i wonder, mayor suarez, how you put those pieces together. what is driving this? >> yeah, it's -- so many different factors are driving this. one of the things we focused a lot on on the mayoral conference we just ended is mental health. mental health is a huge component of what's driving a lot of these, when you look at the root cause and go back and sort of peel back the layers of the onion. mayors are very concerned about it. we also had a panel, obviously, our ban crime. certainly a lot of these mayors have talked about, you know, gun control in their cities. in our city, you know, we have -- we're very blessed. we had a great year. our homicide level went down. we've been able -- and i knock on proverbial wood, we haven't had any of these mass shootings we've seen across the country, which seem to be escalating in terms of frequency and in terms of, you know, the amount of times we're seeing them. it's almost every day it seems like we're having one. so, it's been tough. it's something that mayors are

grappling with across the country. we're focusing on it in a very comprehensive way. >> you specifically this week told your fellow mayors some of this is driven by no cash policies. are repeat offenders a problem? >> the no cash bail is creating lawlessness in a lot of our cities. people get out right away. they're not -- they don't even have to post bail so they're able to get out right away. we're seeing someone go into a cvs, for example, and take thousands of dollars worth of merchandise, which is causing a cvss to close, which hurts the rest of the city. but that's not particularly related to the gun violence issue. it's related more to petty crime, which is creating lawlessness in some of our cities. we are seeing in the city of miami, we are up-funding our police. a lot of cities got into defunding the police movement and we're seeing that as a bipartisan movement. i said it at the white house a couple of days ago and the

police echoed what i said about up-funding police, not defunding police. >> president biden put in $4 billion in grants available for local law enforcement use in cities around the country. >> yeah, as you talked about this issue that's happening right now in california, yet another mass shooting in our country, it continues to happen too frequently. so, it's just too many guns in america. it's too many guns in the hands on our streets and guns plus anger equals bad outcomes, equals violence. we have to bring back laws sensible, common sense gun laws to reduce the amount of access people have to guns. you see another mass shooting. lives are lost and my heart goes out to the people of california experiencing that. so, as mayor suarez mentioned, we're talking about mental health and how to make sure we have anti-violence in our communities. we're utilizing cure violent to bring down retaliation and make sure we have healing in our communities to try to use

policing and nonpolicing tactics to bring down violence. midnight basketball, things that are -- summer youth employment program to help our youth. but mental health and just getting people the quality care they need so they make wise decisions. most of the violence we're seeing in our community are escalating disputes. people unable to resolve a conflict and it's escalating too much. people aren't arguing, they're taking their hands to their pockets and pulling out a gun. that's the violence we're seeing in america. we have to take a whole of government approach to bring down this violence, things we can do to help our youth, help our communities and that's some of the stuff we're doing in atlanta. >> mayor giles, you actually, i was surprised when i saw mesa has such a big population. fest large cities. apoli >> right. >> how do you qualify that? how are you doing that, if that is a fact?

>> well, a lot of the things these fellows have just mentioned. we are doubling down on our investment in our police department and we are shifting the paradigm. a few years ago we changed the name of our fire department. it's no longer the mesa fire department. it's mesa fire and medical to better reflect what we do. we need to do the same when it comes to policing. it needs to be the police and mental health department. last year we diverted over 3,000 911 calls away from a police response to a mental health response. so, again, the importance of mental health is ubiquitous in all that we do. it was discussed at the conference. it has everything to do with how we address homelessness, it has everything to do with how we address policing in our community. >> mayor cantrell, i want to get to you on that, too, because president biden said it's not about defund, the police. it's about restraining the place. i know you've had a problem in new orleans with not having enough police officers, 1,000

for 3,000 people. >> it's about retention and it is also about recruitment. because of this second tranche of the american rescue plan dollars coming our way with direct allocation, oh, it has really been a life line. we're putting $80 million in public safety across the board. one of the biggest in terms of retention and incentive package to retain. we see it slowing down, meaning attrition is declining, our officers are staying. we have to continue to get the tools and resources that our officers need to respond. also in terms of the capacity issue you mentioned, you know, i've had to put all commissioned officers that were in special ops, over 75 back on the street because my officers were saying, hey, we need help out here. so, i have to protect my officers so they can protect my city. and so we're seeing a real result in regards to our redeployment strategy on the ground. >> new orleans has the highest per capita murder rate of any major city. why?

>> why is because, one, dealing with covid-19, violence, everyone has guns. also as ito or the lac reachinga actability. you know, low-lying offenses, when they don't get bail or re're just seeing how these crimes escalate. people need to be held accountable across the board. and we're seeing results, i would say, we're moving in the right direction, but i tell you, we definitely need to hold people accountable. you can't fight crime just focusing on police. it's about a system, a criminal justice system. it's about the d.a., your judges, and it's about building in accountability. everyone needs to be held accountable. that's how we're focusing on it, wholistic approach in the city of new orleans. definitely seeing a decline.

moving in the right direction. >> this issue of crime in your city is causing a lot of political problems. and you are the target of a recall drive that's under way right now. a number of allegations against you as well in regard to financial improprieties. how much of the responsibility would the crime issue do you personally take? >> well, first of all, it is the new orleans police department that is absolutely under my authority. and with that, making sure that not only i'm listening to my resoces that theyd crime. ats ely wt we'r seeing on the ground. the incentive packages, retaining officers, as well as recruitment. that's the focus. >> you believe you'll survive this recall effort? >> based on what i see is the residents of my city definitely appreciate continuity in leadership. so, with that, that speaks to keeping progress moving and alive under my leadership,

second elected twice in the city, 61% the first time, 65% the second time. continuity in leadership is what i'm seeing by my people. >> i want to get to all of you on a number of issues, but something very intense has just happened in atlanta, mayor dickens. i watched a press conference you held last night following the death of a georgia-based activist that turned into a riot. this stems, as i understand it, from the shooting death of an activist. and the body camera from the policeman who is believed to have shoot this individual doesn't exist. what can you tell us in terms of who is behind the violence that happened yesterday? >> yeah. earlier this week an individual that was protesting in the woods, a number of folks are in the woods trying to protest against a development of a public safety training center, which is for police and firefighters. a new state-of-the-art training center that's going to allow us to do 21st century policing, allow us to have an emergency vehicle obstacle course and

things that police and fire will be able to work together to bring about, you know, safety in our community. so, we're building it, but some folks don't want to see anything built that supports the police so they call it cop city. these individuals are in the woods protesting it. unfortunately, they were engaged by georgia state patrol asked them to be able to move out of the woods, an individual shot at the georgia state patrol. georgia state patrol officer shot back. unfortunately, that individual was killed and patrol officer, the state patrol officer was shot in the abdomen. now, they had a protest last night. it was peaceful, but there were some individuals within that crowd that meant violence. they had explosives, they burned down a police car, they broke windows at businesses. so, our police department a long with our state and federal partners took swift action within two blocks and brought that situation under control and the violence stopped. those six individuals were arrested. it should be noted that these

individuals were not atlanta or georgia residents. most of them traveled into our city to reek havoc. we love to support people when they're doing right, peaceful protest is part of the american freedoms, but when you are violent, we will make sure that you get -- held accountable. >> i want to pick up on that point. when you say people from out of town carrying explosives. is this an organized movement here? your local paper says this is having national reach with reaction from groups ranging from, quote, environmental activists, radical anarchists and black revolutionaries. marjorie taylor greene, georgia congresswoman, named black lives matter and antifa and she blamed democrats. on the facts, 7 to 13 people have been charged with domestic terrorism. is this terrorism? is this crime? what is this? who's behind it? >> yeah, i won't go as far as whatever that representative said, but what i will say is

that it is a crime. that's why they've been charged with a crime. these crimes -- >> domestic terrorism. >> the crimes range from violence to domestic terrorism, assault and battery and some other things. yes, it is violent when someone turns to burn down a police car, break out windows or have explosives on them. i don't get into the names. i don't know all the organizations. i'll let y'all decide who did it. i just know they're arrested. if they come into atlanta again to reek havoc, they will be arrested again. >> do you believe your city is being targeted by organized groups? >> in that regard, yes. those individuals that are protesting against cop city, as they call it, it's really a public safety training center, they don't want to see the very things they ask for, more police training. we can't train imaginary. we have to do it in a facility that allows for police, firefighters and the community to train together. so, this is bringing about the change we wanted to see in 2020. now while we're doing it, these individuals don't want to see any resources go towards that

training. so, we're going to develop this training center and those individuals will have to come to a halt. >> mayor giles, you are on the front line of the migration surge. i think it's so interesting that you're characterizing your city as very safe. you know, these issues of migration surges being uncontrolled and crime are often conflated. how are you doing that in terms of not having this overwhelm your local officials in law enforcement? >> i could say it's not overwhelming us, it is and has been for decades. one thing i've enjoyed about this conference over the last few days, you're starting to see more bipartisan frustration. you're seeing the mayor of new york city and chicago and denver are all top of their agendas now is talking about the problems that are being created in their communities as a result of the migration surge. i in no way support or encourage the practice of some of our

border state governors in sending migrants to these large northeastern cities, but i do have to admit that it has elevated this issue to a place it has not been previously. border states have been complaining for decades about the need to address immigration reform, the need to dedicate additional resources to the border. and we're doing the best we can. but in our city, the church groups, the nonprofits that are being put upon by the federal government to come in and take up the slack, we are past our resources. hopefully this new-found bipartisan frustration and joining of northeastern cities to this issue will help elevate it. >> and you have the super bowl coming out to arizona soon. i know -- i read that you plan to take homeland security secretary around your city? >> absolutely. we met with the secretary

mayorkas a few days ago, extended that invitation. we have very limited resources as far as welcoming centers to process migrants as they proceed sometimes totheastern cities. we need the band-aids to keep coming from the federal government in terms of facilities. but we also need to address the underlying issue of immigration reform. >> mayor suarez, i need to get to you on this as well because south florida has seen this influx by boat, cubans, haitians. there's a 400% increase in the month of october alone. are these new tighter regulations from the biden administration making any difference? >> it's hard to say. we're just imposed. but certainly i think the failure of having immigration solution, as mayor giles said, is creating sort of miami becoming a border state and border city. as you said, we had the single largest increase in public

school enrollment year over year this year. and so that -- just to put that in context, about 14,000 new children. if a big school is 10,000 children, that's 7,000 schools we have to create in the system. it obviously, as you said, puts a strain on the homeless system and trying to take care of the least, the last and lost in our city. it puts a strain on our public hospital system. we have one of the largest public hospital systems. puts a strain on that system. i think sti cities across the america, as mayor giles said, are coming together in a bipartisan fashion and asking for a long-term solution. this has to be fixed, a lot of immigration is coming from this hemisphere. it doesn't seem like -- you know, either party really has focused on solving the problem as opposed to demonizing the other side for their position. i think that's what mayors do, is we focus on solving problems, not blaming somebody else for

it. >> all right. and you delivered that message here in washington this week. mayors, thank you very much for coming to the table. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back.

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>> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." and good evening. thanks for joining us. a lunar new year celebration in california erupted into chaos overnight. the festive atmosphere shattered by yet another mass shooting in this country. this time police say ten people were killed and ten more injured at a ballroom dance studio in monterey park. it's about seven miles from los angeles. the gunman fled the scene, leading to a massive manhunt, and s.w.a.t. team members eventually surrounding this white van. investigators released a photo of the suspect but have yet to release a motive for his attack.

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