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>> our stories define us. welcome back to "mosaic". the memoir has just come out o sleet, pray and heal. i am always interested in titles of books. not only the books but

the chapters. tell us about with such an interesting title? >> it set right because, ira have written for the general audience first. not necessarily for the church audience. i wanted a title that did not sound too much sound too much like church. after my head injury i had difficulty speaking, . my eyes

went across and i would get terrible stomachaches and dizziness. just from the ways m eyes worked in were not focused the left side was week. i have difficulty walking. and had chronic pain. the brain rest to heal. if you overdo it, you run the risk of developing seizures and we don't want you to do that. i was used to pushing it , in order to better you go work out and you do a little more and you do a little more. you i was an overachiever. push the envelope. push the envelope. of the sudden it was turned on its head and is said, go head and is said, go to bed. whole

approach. >> in charge. and i worked hard. and i would read at least a book a week. just for sermon development. and all the sudden i cannot read a magazine article. i just could not do it. so i had to find a whole new paradigm for how to get through the day. when you cannot count on yourself for figuring things out or you cannot count on your words to pray, or you'd really do not know what you just did. or the name of your nephew, or how many cups of rice you put into the microwave, into the pot , in order to cook.

i could not keep track of counting. >> you chapters are captivating. you have three sections that stand out. tell us about those. >> my first section is called, breaking open. that is the time of the accident. it also broke me open spiritually. because all the sudden when you cannot count on your words or knowing what to pray, i fell back into the beginning, the essence of the spirit who created me. a call at the brushes of the spirit. >> you can feel it sometimes. kind of like a little wind. go this way. and in the second section it is painting prayers. i found in all of the down hours, what i was trying to work out, to sit with me.

what i was not expecting is that the spirit will become, the message of the spirit about healing would be inside of the paintings. this is broken and shells. it was a two-year anniversary of my head injury. however, i was told by an attorney that for the two years, that is permanent disabilities. he brought the ostrich egg shells back from africa and they broke. just like the broken abilities of mine. i put them on a cross, giving my brokenness to god. in that painting, what the brushes of the spirit gave to me

, was, i was feeling so discouraged, with having not healed, as i would hope. i thought, if you have faith like a mustard seed, you could tell this mountain to move. but that was not happening with my brain injury. was my face not good enough? and i wanted to return to normal and i thought that's what healing was. that painting of the cross and the egg shells, i saw a new person being born out of the broken shells. in the gospels, healing is wholeness. i can be disabled, i can be whole. i can be disabled and healed. it is like, new life. crucifixion and resurrection together. >> that is why it created a new. >> that is the third section. breaking open, painting prayers and creating a new. the same brushes of the spirit, i became in tune with when they were moving and instructing me toward my path to wholeness. when it was my own mind, that

was telling me something. they are very different. >> it took seven or eight years. it took a lifetime. the way i read it. >> right. i have stories from my childhood and meeting my husband. the spirituality, that give-and- take with god, that is the essence of the book. >> i love some of the pictures you have and we will see them in the next segment. >> wonderful.>> i am glad you brought them.>> please join us. we have been with donna and ron. and we hope that you join us in the next segment on "mosaic". thank you.

in one of our last segments we talked about painting prayers that donna has done.

i am glad mike, they cameraman will show some pictures she has painted. we lift them up at this point. there is one. >> i call this painting, formed by tears. it is a self- portrait, painted very quickly in a very hard spot i was in. it was my prayer about too much pain for too long. and what i discovered is that -- i hated the pain. i thought i was supposed to be counting my blessings and staying positive and that is the way to get through it. as i sat and watched this painting dry, i had to watch paint dry. that is the most boring thing to do. wait a minute, the brushes of the spirit showed me, the tears are beautiful. >> i hear honest, authentic, angry at times.

>> that is right. and to give god your tears and tears are holy waters at work. that is what the brushes of the spirit told me. don't be ashamed. they are moving through you. it is a beautiful thing. i changed my impression of tears . no longer am i ashamed of tears. the brushes in the spirit, they move with honesty. just like worship and in spirit and truth. spirit is a partner to truth. and ask, jesus said, spirit is a partner to truth. the path to wholeness is always grounded in truth. whatever you are experiencing. in the first year, i should be better let that nowork for mi had a an move forward is to stay with truth and spirit, which is honesty.>> i love brushes of

the spirit. i might use it as a title and give you credit for it. let's see another picture. tell us about that one. >> i call this painting, rocking lost. one of the effects of my head injury is that i cannot rock my baby who was nine months old at the time of my injury. i went through a lot for couple of years, just being very angry that was stolen from me. i had to stop nursing. i could not rock a rocker. i would get sick riding in the car. anytime there is motion around me. i painted my prayer of this rickety rocking chair. as the chapter in the book that is called rocking lost about this pain and prayer and what i discovered, a soda matt out of what she wore. that was where my heart was.

it was so amazing. when in the moment i finished this painting, the grief and anger over having lost that time with my infant, it finally left. i had taken it to god and leave it there in prayer and it was always right back there. but i was so angry. when i finish the painting and i can touch those blanket sleeper arms, i gave that grief home to reside. and that is the brushes of the spirit. showing me, how to walk forward , when you are sorrowful. >> i have not asked you until i thought of it now. how long did it take you to do the paintings? >> there is three years. these are the brain injury paintings. the initial ones. some of them took five minutes and some took three or four

months. it just depended on where i was at and how honest i was being. there are a lot of paintings that are not there. you should be this way and you should be doing this. i wanted bright stars and something beautiful. creative spirit was not moving with that. a lot of paintings got off the wayside because they were not telling the truth. and that is where the spirit moves. >> isn't that something? i had the privilege of hearing and seeing smokey robinson a few months ago. he took about five minutes to do one of his songs. but it took him five years to do another. >> the one of me crying is a five-minute painting. that was just two colors of

paint. >> let's see another one. yes. tell us about this. >> i call this the self- portrait. from the outside i look fine. but from the inside looking out it is like this painting appears. there are broken spaces where my brain is not connecting to one another. and the way i did this painting is i through a mirror on the floor to see what happens when glass falls. that was my prayer. what happened to me when that glass fell on the? i cut a pastel drawing of myself into the same pieces as the broken glass. >> how long did that take? >> that was about four weeks. that is also on the path of me being up two hours a day. i would do a little bit, lie down. to a little bit. back and forth with the sleeping, praying and healing.

>> let's see the last two pictures of the family before we go to the next segment. we will run out of time. i want to see the wedding picture. what year was that? >> 1986. that is reverend dr. hubert ivory. we were married in fresno. >> my dad. >> we had so many ministers baptist and christian methodist, episcopal. everything possible. it was a wonderful time. >> let's see the family.>> that is with my youngest daughter and my older daughter. that is the first time i shared my painting publicly. >> wonderful. how old are they? >> 30 and 26. they are not little girls anymore.

>> i remember when they were little girls. that is amazing. i am glad. thank you. we will have another segment and we look forward to one more poem. and one more picture that i think is important to see.

we are with reverend donna

ivory. we talked about creating a new in the last segment of her book. i wanted her to read a poem that i think would be so important during this christmas season. which we look for the new and the christ child. and dancing with pain has been her story. this poem expresses that. share that with us, donna. >> this poem goes with the painting, dancing with pain that has me dancing with a body of broken mirrors. dancing with pain. i do not choose to have pain as my partner. following my every step. bending my body to its intention . holding me always with cutting arms. tripping me up to fall fully into its blunt, harsh, body. reflecting distorted and exaggerated aspects of me. i do not choose to have pain as my partner.

for three years now i have grown into knowing this partner of mine called pain. i have caught on to distant and above a stunning, suspicious secret about pains way. why the secret? perhaps the face of pain is so gruesome my fear runs after pain. pain follows rhythm. i step forward, pain steps back. for a moment. then pain steps forward again. i ever do too many steps at once. pain cuts in. i can do, as long as i keep rhythm with pain. pain follows rhythm. with pain as my partner, i can dance, sachet and step together and tap and moving and rejoicing and feeling the exhilaration of freedom as body blends with bressler's desire of soul. i can dance. it is a precarious dance i live with this nasty partner called pain. but pain follows and noticed

rhythm. i choose to improve my dancing skills. i will out with, out step, out and that i will keep up the joyce movement while keeping in rhythm with life's music while keeping in rhythm with pain. will i become so advanced that i will take the lead? >> i love it. i'm glad we took the time for that. that is better than "dancing with the stars", anytime. what we left out, website, how to get your books, and any book readings coming up? >> i have a website. adventures and healing.com. you can get there to my name. facebook page, adventures and healing. sleet, pray, heal can be found at any bookstore anywhere. just ask for it. i also sell them on my website and amazon and barnes & noble. everywhere. >> second question, when is the next book? >> the next book is in 2020.

color, sleet, pray, for live. it is working with a healer. and working with the brushes of the spirit. how i restored my ability to walk again. >> we can dance with pain and we comply. >> that is right. >> thank you for being with us. thank you. i am sure the audience who has listened will be inspired and feel resilient because of your example. >> and the resiliency of christmas. the manger and everything going wrong. but yet, the star shone and jesus came. >> thank you for joining us. i hope you have been lifted by the story that is in this memoir , that is so gripping. you will be deeply moved, if you read, sleep, pray and heal.

god bless you during the season. and may god always be with you. the brushes of the spirit. thank you for joining us.

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