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welcome back to "face the nation." president biden heads to poland this week. his second visit since russia began its war in ukraine. for more we go to polish prime minister mateusz morawiecki. good morning to you. >> good morning. we knooening, warw. poland. what do you expect from these visits? >> well, i expect that there will be very strong confirmation of our resilience and our joint efforts to defeat russia in ukraine because instead of saying, some western european politicians say, that russia cannot win this war and ukraine cannot be defeated, we have to
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change the paradigm and we have to say, ukraine must win and russia must be defeated. and i believe that the words of president biden will reassure all europe that the united states is with us in this fight for freedom and peace. >> it sounds like you're referring to the french president's recently comments. does nato want ukraine to win his war and regain its lost territory? >> i believe so. i'm absolutely sure that this is the only way how we can restore peace and stability. i cannot imagine that putin and the kremlin winning this war and then spaes and stability is around us, because the very nature of russia is to conquer other countries. russia has actually, somewhat the worst of the 20th century, colonialism, imperialism,
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nationalism, and this is the nature of "russkiy mir" they call, and it's why it's such a critical moment in our history. >> president biden said he believes the war has to end in a negotiated settlement that's favorable to ukraine. you said last year poland doesn't negotiate with criminals, nobody negotiated with hitler, would you negotiate with hitler? with stalin? with pol pot? are you saying peace is not possible if putin stays in power? >> i just came here to this interview from munich conference. munich security conference is a very important platform to exchange opinions today. chri whell the leaders of the w succumbed to hitler and they believed they are bringing peace to their countries, and one year later, the second world war
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broke out. we can, of course, negotiate, but it has to be under conditions and under the definition presented by ukrainians themselves. it's up to them to define what terms and conditions can be acceptable to negotiate with with the kremlin. >> one of ukraine's neighbors mall dough va has warned that there is a plot to overthrow their government and open a new front in the war. an ally of putin recently said russia should "denazfy and demilitarize demilitarize poland next." do you see evidence that russia is going to try to move other countries including yours? >> yes. i see russian defense systems in mall dough va. ths weak count we need to help them. >> in terms of poland, you are
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in nato, so the united states would have to come to your defense if you went to nato and asked for it. there are 11,000 u.s. service members on rotation in poland currently and i know your government is asking for more. do you have any indications from the baste that they will send more -- biden administration that they will send more troops or make them more permanent on your soil? >> we are in the process of discussion with president biden's administration about making their presence more permanent and increasing them. but i'm very grateful also for sending new patriot systems and other very modern weapons and munitions because this is also, to some extent a proxy for presence of soldiers, but the two go in tandem. i also recall the words of president biden from last fall from his last visit in poland
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when he said that every inch or square inch of nato's country's territory is -- will be defended and russia is not going to put any inroads into those countries. i do believe that nato countries, we are all very much secure, but it's not only about us, it's also about creating stability around us in our direct neighborhood. if we fail to integrate ukraine in nato and european union, ukraine will always be a buffer zone, wisconsin not right. >> all right. mr. prime minister, we'll be watching that visit. thank you for your time. >> thank you. thanks for having me. and we'll be right back with some analysis. i count on personalized financial advice from my ameriprise advisor. she knows my goals and can help me reach them with confidence. the markets may fluctuate but you're still on track. more than 9 out of 10 clients are likely to recommend us.
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council adviser on russia and former u.s. ambassador to russia john sullivan, who is a cbs news contributor. good morning. good to have you both here. fiona hill i would love to talk to you first. secretary blinken admitted russia is not isolated. it's getting support from china, getting support from iran. does that mean the west's main tool sanctions are failing? >> i tnlane h wh hmblken t fs been at the munich conference, we have to up our diplomatic game. as you'rege a lot of other countries don't buy that as big an issue as we see it with russia's invasion of ukraine. they're always making comparison with the great power competition among the u.s. and russia and china as part of that. i think what secretary blinken and other members of the administration have been striving to get across it's not
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part of us. the united states isn't fighting over ukraine for any kind of competition with china and with russia. they're trying to help ukraine liberate itself. that's the message we have to get across. if russia gets away with a land grab in ukraine, it makes the world unsafe for every country imaginable who has a territorial dispute including all the neighbors of china in the south china sea, east asia and india and china have a dispute in the himalayas and what we have to do is work with the middle powers the countries in the u.n. general assembly to make the point we're trying to help ukraine liberate its territory from an unprovoked aggression. >> ambassador, you heard from the polish prime minister this concern that not just the blast radius from this conflict but that there will be some pushing of it beyond borders, maybe not over invasion, but destabilization. >> sure. >> when you were in the administration, you left in
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september, there was talk about the surrounding countries also being targeted by russia. do you think that's under way now? >> absolutely. i mean, we've seen the story earlier this week about a potential effort by the russians to undermine the government in moldova. we've seen over flights by russian missiles that were attacking ukraine that have gone over the territory of other countries that aren't parties to the conflict. this is a long-standing concern poles and eastern europeans that have felt threatened by russia and always described it to me as -- when i was deputy secretary, they felt they were on the front lines against this russian imperialist russian state. >> but this feels different. when you were here with us last time, you said, when you talked to secretary blinken february 19th of last year, he asked how why you feeling? it feels like 1939.
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>> right into you said the polish prime minister invoked hitler. >> what happened on february 24th last year, putin pushed all of his chips to the center of the table and went all-in. recall before february 24th, there were -- there was speculation about yeah, there will be maybe a limited incursion into ukraine. putin went all-in. he went full world war ii, world war i scale, this is war and we're going all in and going to take down the ukrainian government, subju cate the people and we're going to do with ukraine what we wish because ukraine isn't a country. ukraine is part of our "russkiy mir." we're going to do with it what we want to and you, the united states, you nato, anybody else, you can't stop us. >> he's betting on a short attention span here in the west, here in the united states. vladimir putin is set to give an address tuesday. it's going to be his first state of the nation since the war began. very same day president biden is going to give a speech in poland. what's the message you expect
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and should be delivered? >> well, i think what putin is going to deliver deliver is a message that picks up on what ambassador sullivan said. he's going to depict this as a patriot war, protection of the motherland, in this case putin has been trying to say this is the third invasion of russia after napoleon and the wars in the 1800s and nazi germany. he's portraying this is an existential threat for russia. we would imagine he's trying to mobilize the russian population in support of what he's depicting as the fight for their lives. president biden is going to have to counter that. we have to counter that narrative not just in europe as we've heard from the polish prime minister and many other european leaders, they see things in the same turn as a rerun of world war i and world war ii, in the sense of an
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unprovoked. the whole world not just lp ukrelf andre in a fighto evng distortion of history and fact. >> ambassador, when you talk about the war in ukraine politically here in the united states, president biden gets attacked by republicans in particular for being too slow moving to approve certain types of weapons. fighter jets, for example, for a year have been debated to give them or not. is this too slow moving if we are in this important moment? >> well, it is an incredibly important moment and i think some of the criticism has been fair. it has been i think the administration, which i was a part until recently, has been a little slow, has been cautious. president biden, the marching orders we got at the start of the conflict was, he wanted to do everything we could to support ukraine, but he didn't want a war with russia. that's the careful balancing act that we've -- the administration has been going through.
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>> vladimir putin doesn't want a war with the united states eater? >> vladimir putin says he's already at war with the united states. he said the reason he invaded ukraine was ukraine was going to invade russia and develop nuclear weapons. the united states and ukraine were developing bioweapons. the times he will t word war to discuss what's happening in vein ukraine when he says t vessels is at war with russia. when he talks about the special military response that's the response by russia to the war the united states is waging through its ukrainian proxies as they say the united states wants to fight against russia to the last ukrainian. it's all made up. >> those are the words you're listening for on tuesday? >> absolutely. fiona is right, it's going to be rallying the russian people to support in this what he
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considers existential war he's engaged in ukrainian. >> dr. hill, ukrainian's foreign minister said in munich the end to the war will be when russia's president comes to kyiv and begs for forgiveness. that does not sound like vladimir putin. >> 90 years from now some russian president might do that. i'm saying 90 because ambassador sullivan and i have irish heritage and took 90 years the queen to come and ask for forgiveness ireland in a very highly symbolic way for many of the conflicts. it's not inconceivable at some point some russian leader, not in the immediate future, would, in fact, ask for forgiveness for what's done in ukraine. we saw german leaders after world war ii ask for similar forgiveness at war memorials including in the soviet union and russia itself. it is true that when russia drops as a country, these imperial, this war will be over. but it won't be soon.
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are reminded of that frequently. for a closer look at what may feel to many like an epidemic, we want to bring in dr. joshua gordon of the national institute of mental health the lead federal agency for research on mental disorders. good morning to you, doctor. >> good morning. >> i want to start on one of these triggers, you know, senator fetterman, stroke survivor, checked himself into the hospital with clinical depression, and it has inspired a lot of people to talk about their experiences with depression. in his case, what are the symptoms of stroke-induced depression? >> the symptoms of stroke-induced depression are pretty much the same as typical depression or depression not associated with stroke. low motivation, sadness, challenges with sleep, appetite, energy, loss of motivation and the like. >> so what is a reasonable
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expectation and timeline for someone'sreatme? do they get back to their o old selves? >> there are effective treatments for depression and those treatments do generally work for most people who have stroke-induced depression. the timeline, though, varies tremendously from individual to individual, and it's hard to make a prediction in the senator's case. >> what is the typical treatment for someone these days? is talk therapy still strongly believed in? is medication more prescribed these days? >> well, given the typical severity of post-stroke depression, most health professionals would recommend a combination of medication and what we call psycho social or psychotherapeutic interventions, so yes, talk therapy is still used. it is a very effective tool for depression, as are medications. if patients don't respond to
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talk therapy or medications, there are additional options to try. >> you know, there was a recent cdc study about teenage girls that was sobering. three in five u.s. teen girls feel sad or hopeless. double that of boys representing a 60% increase the highest level reported over the past decade. what is going on with young girls? >> well, it is truly a tragedy. it is truly a crisis. we desperately need to do something about it on a societal level and on community levels. the what is going on question is one that we can't fully answer at this point. a lot of people think, oh, it must be the pandemic and its effects, but if you look at the surveys that the cdc has been conducting for the last decade or more, you can see the slow rise in levels of
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symptomatology, amongst teenage girls, goes back long before the pandemic started. there are a number of contributing factors, but on the whole, it's a complex picture that we don't fully understand. >> so what are parents supposed to do? >> that's a great question. first and foremost, parents need to talk to their kids. they need to listen. if they're do needuestionsuthowe to a ques, are you thinking abong yours killing yourself. that's the first thing, ask questions. the second thing, listen to the responses, and try to be there for your kids. if the answers suggest that your child is having more trouble than you think or is thinking about harming themselves or is otherwise having challenges going to school and getting good grades, parents should seek professional help. >> doctor, thank you for your
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we learned the sad news saturday that former president jimmy carter has entered the final stage of his life and will forgo any further medical treatment. bob schieffer covered former president jimmy carter almost 50 years ago and brings us his insights into carter's career. >> reporter: when the former governor of georgia decided to run for president in 1975, it was not as if america had been waiting for him with bated breath. >> jimmy who? >> jimmy carter. >> i don't know who he is. >> reporter: he was so unknown, that his surprise win in the iowa caucuses brought headlines
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blaring the same question. that race changed politics so much that iowa became an obligatory first stop for presidential candidates. carter tried to make a virtue of his lack of washington experience, self-made peanut farmer from plains, georgia, introduced us to an improbable cast of small town characters. but his best asset was always his wife. carter's campaign came down to one promise. >> i'll never tell a lie, i'll never make a misleading statement. >> reporter: after the lies of watergate it worked, despite a campaign of dubious firsts. >> the audio has been lost. >> reporter: the sound went out during his debate with president gerald ford, leaving the two candidates just standing there for 28 minutes. carter went on to defeat incumbent gerald ford, maybe not so much because of what he said, but because ford had pardoned
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richard nixon. >> i, jimmy carter, do solemnly swear. >> reporter: like his campaign, carter's presidency began in some chaos. he bombarded congress with so many proposals, plans and legislation, washington couldn't sort out his priority. the low point for carter came when iran's revolutionary leaders took u.s. diplomats hostage. the conflict set off a fuel shortage back home and americans faced long lines at gas stations from coast to coast. a military mission to rescue the hostages collapsed in an iranian desert and with it carter's campaign for re-election. the captives remained behind bars until the new president was sworn in. for all that, carter was responsible for two extremely significant achievements, negotiating the panama canal treaty ensured the canal stayed
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open to american ships and troops would not be needed to put down an almost certain rebellion. carter engineered the camp david accords which remains the single most important diplomatic achievement in the middle east. it took egypt, israel's most dangerous adversary out of the conflict. >> i would like to say as a christian, to these two friends of mine, the words of jesus, blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be the children of god. >> reporter: although he served only one term, carter went on to become america's most active and productive former president. he visited countries around the world, serving as a mediator and settling disputes. his scientific work in africa helped eradicate the worm where it was said his was the presidential name most often remembered. his work in habitat for humanity
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revived voluntaryism in this country. when president biden visited him in may of 2021, the pair discussed cancer research, a topic close to both their hearts. carter survived brain cancer in his early '90s. jimmy and roselynn carter have been married more than 75 years. the longest presidential marriage in history. this is bob schieffer. >> that's ir tay. thk you tching until next week, for "face the nation," i'm margaret brennan.
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♪ >> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." today an outpouring of tributes for former president jimmy carter after it was announced that he would be receiving hospice care at home. at age 98 mr. carter is the nation's oldest living president. his decision follows a series of hospital stays and many years of health challenges. today president biden and first lady jill biden said that they admired mr. carter for his strength and humility, adding that they hope he continues his journey with grace and dignity. cbs's robert costa is in the former president's hometown of
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