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russia is attacking civilians in ukraine with new waves of missiles and relentless assaults that the united nations calls war crimes. but even before russia's invasion, more than a thousand ukrainian children were already at war. they were fighting cancer. as we first reported last winter, russian attacks on hospitals and the power grid put these fragile children in immediate danger. the first lady of ukraine asked the world for help, and a renowned american hospital and 21 countries answered the call. what followed was an improvised flight to safety that ukraine called the convoy of life. the joy in 2-year-old melania defied both cancer and war. but if she was to live, her family had to escape ukraine.

in february, her mother, roksolana semeraz, joined the jam of thousands of refugees struggling to cross into poland. people were walking for miles, she told us, leaving their cars and belongings behind. they would only take with them their most precious ones, their children and pets. my heart was tearing apart. at the border, roksolana's desperation rose with the temperature of melania's cancer drug she was carrying. it had to be refrigerated. but now they were trapped. after waiting in line at the border for over 24 hours and it would get warmer during the day, i had no storage for the medication, and that's when i would become desperate. i didn't know what to do, how to have hope for the treatment of my c child.

motherers across u ukraine were losing h hope for ththeir sick chilildren. this was t the scene i in the cacapital kyiviv outside t the of o ohmatdyt children's hospit. dr. lesia lysytsia told us, as the missiles flew, she rushed patients to the basement, many on chemotherapy. all of the patients were very sick, she told us. being moved to the basement definitely didn't do any good to their health. dr. lysytsia specializes in eye cancer. and in the treatment room, they displayed their rage "we are continuing to work despite the war and we are going to win this war with russian soldiers and kill cancer." maybe they didn't need the sign. dr. lysytsia's look said it all.

she told us, their lives depend on the hospital's supplies, such basic supplies as blood, for example. you can't delay an operation for an oncology patient for a week or two. you can't stop their treatment because timing is crucial. if you delay chemotherapy for two weeks, then you've lost some percentage of their chance to survive. the plight of desperate children touched the first lady of ukraine, olena zelenska. we met in kyiv, in september. elegant but weary, she seemed to bear the burden of 44 million ukrainians. kids with cancer were among the first to find her empathy. >> how did you work with other countries to evacuate these cancer patients? >> translator: on my level, i can speak with the first ladies. for this convoy to work, they

needed to set up the system in their countries, making sure that physicians and hospitals in their country would accept the children for treatment. jill biden responded for the united states, brigitte macron for france, agata kornhauser-duda for poland and many others. they helped activate charities and medical societies. >> translator: we had a big team, everyone helping each other, and i am very grateful for that. >> that team likely saved the life of 17-year-old zhasmin alkadi, a woman who impressed us with the creativity, personality, and love of life that are rich in those who know they can lose them. in february, doctors ordered her into chemotherapy to save her leg from bone cancer. but before that happened, russia invaded. in march, zhasmin joined the

convoy of life. patients throughout ukraine took buses and trains to a children's hospital in lviv near poland. after treatment there, the children and their families crossed the border where they boarded a medical train. the entire route could take days or weeks. but throughout the exhausting journey, at least zhasmin had her mother to lean on. whwhen we see e you on thehe tr you are moving into the unknown in that moment. >> translator: yes. zhzhasmin t told us. on thahat journey,y, we didn't' what couountry on ththe destina list we e would end d up in. you'u're on the e train hopipin the bebest, trustiting doctors, hoping it will all be fine. but, as you said, you're moving into the unknown.

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>> thehe "unicorn n clinic" waw name thehey gave to o the hotelt cocould hold 300 refugugees, papatients andnd their famamili. memedical recocords were t tran and d hospitals s found for r trtreatment, a at no chargrge, welcoming countries. >> i suspect you'd never heard of memphis, tennessee? >> translator: i just knew that there was such a place, but not much else. >> in march, zhasmin alkadi arrived in memphis for treatment at st. jude. what are the doctors telling you now? >> translator: i have a few rounds of chemotherapy left. everything is going well. i already had my leg amputated, unfortunately. the doctors said it was too late to save the leg and it was impossible. i just need to finish my chemotherapy, and i can then continue living my life, as

before. >> also living a rambunctious life at st. jude is 2-year-old melania semeraz, the girl who had been stuck at the polish border with her refrigerated medication. her mother roksolana told us there's hope that melania can be cured of her fibrosarcoma, a cancer of the connective tissue in her leg. >> we fled the war from people who just wanted to kill, roksolana told us in november. and here people are greeting you and want to give you the best help. they did so much for us and are still doing. this is something incredible. >> what does the world need to know about this war? >> translator: it is scary that

in our century people still believe that war is worth something. there are so many real problems in the world such as cancer. why doesn't russia fight cancer? but rather than fight disease, russia is attacking medicine. the u.n. says russia has assaulted hospitals and clinics at least 900 times. this is a hospital in mykolaiv, a hospital in mariupol. the luhansk children's hospital and a maternity hospital in kyiv. what are the russians trying to do? >> they are waging war against civilians, first lady zelenska told us. they are trying to scare people away, make them flee, leaving empty cities and villages behind, and then they would come and seize these lands using

scorched-earth tactics. >> since our visit with mrs. zelenska, russia has devastated ukraine's power grid. the kyiv children's hospital we visited sent us images of surgeries illuminated by generators and the neonatal intensive care unit swaddled in sandbags. dr. lesia lysytsia remains at work. >> what has the war taken from ukrainian children? >> translator: childhood, the most valuable thing that children have. they stole childhood from our children, and we now have a lot of kids who are mentally broken, no matter how hard we try to rebuild their lives. >> the m mass evacuauation of childrenen with cancncer ran, l spspring, fromom march thrhroug. drdr. marta sasalek of st.t. jud usus a few chihildren did d not

survrvive the jojourney. >> and so there were some instances where children would die on the journey. but i think those children would have died if they had stayed in ukraine. it was the gift that we could give to the families to give them that hope that the child could die peacefully in a safe environment and not have to worry about the effects of war. >> a gift? >> yeah. >> what do you mean? >> i can't imagine being a parent who has a child with a chronic condition that is approaching end of life, and the family member has to worry, will the hospital be struck by a missile? at the time the decision was to evacuate those children with the risk that they might die en route. but if that would bring peace to the family, as they were going through this terrible circumstance that was also now affected by war, then it felt like the right thing to do at the time. >> providing these children with a safe place to die? >> yeah. it's really important.

and, so, we honored that request. >> by recent count, the convoy of life evacuated 1,300 children into a welcoming world, allowing their families to fight one war at a time. i wonder what you'd like to say to the americans who have welcomed your family. >> translator: wherever i go, i want to say thank you to every person that i meet. i feel like i want to scream out loud to everyone, "thank you!" america gave this to us. and i would like to have a chance to help others, too, so that people believe that kindness wins. we need to do more good things. stories of the sick who stayed. the children fighting cancer in

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sportswashing...it's likely a term you have heard a lot recently, the use of games and teams and competition to cleanse a country's image and launder a reputation. earlier this month, the sporting world was stunned when liv golf, the breakaway tour funded by saudi arabia, ended a bitter legal dispute and abruptly merged with the pga tour. it brings another round of scrutiny to saudi arabia's lavishly-funded foray into international sport. hosting events, buying teams, and attracting athletes with colossal paydays. is this investment an attempt to diversify the economy and cater to younger citizens, as its leaders claim? or is it done to paper over human rights abuses,

authoritarian rule and even murder? as we first reported back in april, we visited the kingdom to check out the sports world's new nerve center, and check out what the saudis and their neighbors are getting for their money. >> argentina, champions of the world's greatest game. >> argentina may have claimed the world cup last december, but it wasn't the only country to emerge as a big winner. a controversial choice to host, the oil-rich gulf state of qatar threw more than $200 billion into staging the event and dribbled past criticism over its appalling human rights record. and another wiwinner was nexext door. saudi arabia fielded the one team thahat beat argenentina, a triumph celebrated around the arab world, not least by prince abdulaziz bin turki al saud, the country's minister of sport. >> it was unbelievable.

it was just a milestone that we ticked that shows that if you put the effort and -- and the right resources behind it, you can achieve impossible things. >> the improbable continued after the world cup. saudi arababia's enormouous resources - that is, sloshing oil money - enticed cristiano ronaldo of p portugal, a gegenerational s star, to playaa team in riyadh. his salary? momore than $20000 million a s . that's right, $200 million, roroughly the anannual playingns of lebron james, steph curry, aaron judge, and patrick mahomes, combined. >> such a calm, composed fella. the opening bell for saudi arabia's investment in global sports sounded three years ago with "the clash on the dunes," a heavyweighght title fighght. a few momonths later, , the kin stagaged the worldld's richest e race. >> there's formula 1 racing, and

a ten-year deal with the wwe. but, to many, these mega-events in saudi arabia are financial loss leaders being used to launder the image of a country, while cloaking repression and authoritarian rule. >> you've heard this term sportswashing, the this idea that countries can cover up bad acts through sports. do you believe in the concept that a country can use sports this way? >> not at all. i don't agree with that -- with that term. because i think that if you go to different parts of the world, then you bring people together. everyone should come, see saudi arabia, see it for what it is, and then make your decision. see it for yourself. if you don't like it, fine. >> which is precisely why we came to saudi arabia late last year, to see this unlikely sports hub for ourselves. december is the offseason for pro tennis, yet riyadh was the site of an exhibition, studded with top ten stars and embroidered with local touches,

falcons enlisted to help with the draw ceremony. but the real draw? australia's nick kyrgios was blunt. >> what brought you here at the end? >> well, the money is pretty good, i am not going to lie. >> despite deserts of empty seats, and little in the way of television rights, usually the lifeblood for sports, the players were paid millions just to show up. >> mag enough! and taylor fritz, a californian, earned $1 million in prize money for winning the weekend event. >> the saudis aren't just hosting events, through the kingdom's sovereign wealth fund, they bought an english premier league soccer team, newcastle united. we saw them for a visiting game against a local team, pointedly, abandoning their usual striped kits for the green of the saudi flag. >> then there is, to date, saudi's biggest swing in sports,

that $2.5 billion breakaway liv tour, which tiger woods dismissed as, quote, the endless pit of money. top players, including phil mickelson and dustin johnson, switched their tour allegiances, both paid, as they were, north of $100 million. earlier this month, the pga and liv merged, a win for the saudis, securing their foothold in the sport. >> this flood of saudi money into sports is just absolutely, it's a disruptor. it's -- it's completely changing the face of sports. is -- is that the intention? >> not at all. it adds a lot to the sport. >> but you have to realize the impact this has. i mean, when winners of liv golf events are making multiple times what tiger woods won last time he won the masters, that's a big economic change. >> it doesn't matter i think if the impact of increasing the participation of sports and the interest in that sport is growing, then why not? >> the sports minister insists that the massive investment is an essential pillar of what is

called "vision 2030": a $7 trillion plan by the kingdom's effective ruler crown prince muhammad bin salman, or mbs, to diversify the economy beyond oil, while softening some of its most restrictive social conventions and laws. it's now permitted for women to drive, uncover their head, hold a passport and travel without a male guardian. on the country's fields, and in gyms and rec centers, young saudis, male and female, are embracing sport. so are their moms. rasha al khamis is the country's first female certified boxing coach. back in 2019 she attended the clash on the dunes fight. >> this is your country. these are two international superstars, and you're not watching them on tv. you're watching them live here. what was that like? >> i would never imagine that me, going to the fight, driving my car and attending the fight in -- in my own country. so that's a -- that's a massive transformation. and you can feel that the change

is tangible. >> yet, these changes come at a cost. loujain al hathloul led the saudi woman-to-drive movement, and was punished for her activism. arrested, charged with terrorism, and sentenced to prison, where she says she was tortured. even after her release, she is prevented from leaving the country. her sister lina lives in exile and spoke with us remotely. >> when we talk about sports, of course, we do want to have entertainment in saudi arabia. we d want to have this. but not at the expense of -- of our freedoms. we don't want to be living in fear and not knowing if tomorrow they will break into our house and take our sister or daughter. i do not want to live in this country. i want to live in a country where i feel free, truly. >> even if they have fancy sporting events? >> i want both. >> her sister's harsh treatment, she says, underscores a stark paradox: at a time when social freedoms have expanded,

political repression in saudi arabia has become more severe. >> you're saying this is window dressing. this is -- this is cosmetic. and behind the games there's mass executions and repression like never before. >> absolutely. exactly. this i is what's hapappening. >> the cultural shift goes beyond sports. who would have pegged saudi arabia to o start hosting an annual desert rarave? bruno mars and dj khaled were among the headliners. it's all of a piece, sports, entertainment, tourism. to marry it all, the crown prince turned to american impresario, jerry inzerillo. >> what's a guy from brooklyn doing in a place like this? >> creating magic, making a place welcoming for everybody to come see the kingdom the birthplace of the kingdom. very exciting times. salaam-alaikum. >> in his career in hospitality and entertainment, inzerillo launched atlantis in the bahamas. name a global celebrity and, be

assured, jerry has made their acquaintance. >> i've done five decades in tourism. my job is to welcome people and to create joy and festivity. with vision 2030 now we want people to come to saudi. >> today he oversees a massive $63 billion development on the site where the saudi state was born, converting it into a modern xanadu with homes for 100,000 people, luxury hotels and restaurants. we asked inzerillo about his comfort level representing this autocracy. he told us he focuses on the positive. >> you know i went to school in las vegas, and there's a gambling term that when you're way ahead, you're playing with house money. >> you winning? >> oh, i'm -- not only am i winning, i've won. >> you know there's a country western song, "dance with the one who brung ya." >> who brung ya? >> who brung me here? >> yeah. >> vision 2030, a very benevolent, very loved king, and a very visioionary, dynamimic c prince.

>> but i it's the lessss noble doings of the crown prince that hahave stained t the country's' repuputation, bothth accelerati and cocomplicating i its foray spsports. a cia report said mbs approved the 202018 assassinanation and didismembering o of "washingtot post" joururnalist jamalal khasashoggi. under mbs' rule, executions have drasticacally increasesed, inclg a mass beheheading of 8181 peopn one day last year. the mildest criticism of the state, even on twitter, has been met with detention, torture, and long and arbitrary prison sentences. >> we've heard a lot about transition. we've seen it with our own eyes. but the concern is that this country right now is still not fit to hold international sporting events. >> we're not saying that we're perfect, but what i'm trying to say is that these things help us to achieve a better future for our population. >> i think no country would say they're perfect, but are you saying that every country has a leader that, according to the cia, has ordered a murder of a journalist?

are you saying that every country has 81 beheadings in a single day? and if the answer is no, doesn't it make this relative argument, this whataboutism, doesn't it make that irrelevant? >> well, what i'm trying to say is that, "let's look at the good side about this." and -- and, you know, you're just pinpointing certain topics that if we -- i go and, you know, we had the mass shooting a couple weeks ago in the u.s. does that mean that we don't host the -- the world cup in the u.s.? no. we should go to the u.s. we should get people together. >> a mass shooting is not a government actor. let's be clear about that. >> still, whatever -- whatever, people died. but what i'm trying to say is that if we look at only the bad side, then we shouldn't do anything. >> are there not universals, are there not basic thresholds you think need to be met? >> as i said, there is a lot of issues with with a lot of countries. but then you mention that the order came from the crown prince, and that's not true. there's no proof of that -- as we speak. >> you're denying that the cia's report that says this was ordered and approved -- >> i don't think the cia report actually says that, if you look at it. >> the cia report concluded: saudi arabia's crown prince

muhammad bin salman approved an operation to capture or kill saudi journalist jamal khashoggi. >> still, the games go on, so do the choices. earlier this year, fifa, soccer's governing body, not known for occupying ethical high groundnd, responded d to protes from plalayers and turned down saududi tourism's s sponsorship offer for this summer's women's world cup. these moral dilemmas will only intensify. >> when we were in saudi arabia, we saw a top-level tennis event, a top-level golf event had just been held. buno mars had given a concert. what would your message be to the athletes and entertainers who are coming in to perform and compete? >> my message is that, why would you go to saudi arabia and stay silent on what is going on, on the ground? why won't you speak on behalf of the prisoners who have been muzzled, on all the families that cannot speak?

because when you go to saudi arabia you are a part of -- of this covering up machine. >> what do you think the purpose is of throwing around billions and billions of dollars into sports like this? >> i think the saudi government, the saudi regime and -- and mbs, he wants people to think of ronaldo when they think about saudi and not about khashoggi. >> that's become the association now. we've gone from the murdered journalist to the star soccer player. >> absolutely, yeah. unfortunately. bersececurity job. ♪ the googogle cybebersecurity y certificate was made to fill thahat gap. -witith hands-onon training, recruiuitment supppport, anand access t to a wide network k of employeyers, thisis program p provides the nececessary skilills to begegin a careeeer in c cybersecuririty. -one o of the bestst defenses againsnst cyberattttacks is a a growing w workforce trained d to stop ththem. ♪

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♪ music in the background of a movie is often crucial to how we experience the film. in some cases, it can become as memorable as the movie itself. think of the screaming violins

in "psycho" or that haunting tuba in "jaws" - the latter written by john williams - who for more than a generation was hollywood's leading composer. but over the years as directors and studios began to look for edgier scores, they have -- as we first reported in january -- increasingly turned to a german-born composer named hans zimmer. if you've been to the movies in the past 40 years, you have heard a hans zimmer score. action, drama, comedy, romance, blockbusters, he's done them all. ♪ ♪ >> including the 1994 film, "the lion king," which he won an oscar for with its opening zulu chant.

sung by lebo m., a south african musician, who was working at a car wash in los angeles when hans enlisted him. >> that's how that opening song came about, literally. microphone in the room, not in a booth or anything like this. >> hans told the executives at disney that he wanted to say right off the bat this is not a typical disney movie, it's a father/son story that takes place in africa. >> and they said, "exactly. that's good. do -- do what -- do what you do." >> he showed us what he does at his studio in los angeles, where he composes his scores on this keyboard and computer. for example, the music for the first "pirates of the caribbean" movie. >> so, if you have "pirates,"

which is basically this sort of a thing, there's a jauntiness, right -- ♪ >> yeah. >> and it's -- the music is really big. anand he's in a a little rowowb wiwith a little sail, and you hr this huge orchestra. because that's thehe music he hears in the -- in his head, because he's the greatest pirate that has ever lived in his imagination. so, when you listen to the joker, he's quite the opposite. it's like, you know, a bow on a bow and arrow. and you stretch it. >> ooh. oh my god. >> and i it's -- it's not prett. ♪ >> why so serious? >> it's very emotional inducing. i can't even express why. i wouldn't know -- be able to put words to it.

but -- >> that's the idea. at my best, words will fail you because i'm using my own language. >> since the 1980s, hans zimmer's language in his scores, like last year's biggest hit, "top gun: maverick" has defined not just the characters but has helped tell the stories of chest-thumping action films and sci-fi epics -- like "dune," which he won an oscar for in 2022 in which he used juddering drums and electronic synthesizers. >> so you've been called a maverick. you've been called a visionary. how would you describe yourself? i would describe myself as somebody who's deeply in love with music, and deeply in love with movies, and playful. i love to play, like, as any musician does, as in any language. it says, you know, you play music.

>> his choices have been unpredictable. for every man of steel, there's a kung fu panda and a sherlock holmes in which he used a broken piano and banjos for the 19th century detective turned quirky action hero. >> how important is the instrument to getting what you want? >> vastly important. i mean, because instruments come with baggage. you know, for instance, the definition of a gentleman is somebody who knows how to play the banjo but refrains from doing so. >> whoa. [ laughter ] >> why that banjo worked, right? because it was funny. >> he has used banjos, bagpipes, buzzing electronics. and this, a good old-fashioned orchestra. >> think about the composer of "the dark knight" writing something this delicate.

>> really good. can we just have one more to, you know, to protect the innocent? >> he invited us to watch him record the score of a new movie in a london studio last summer. it's about a young girl coming of age based on a judy blume book, "are you there, god? it's me, margaret," that was released in theaters this spring. >> like the sound? >> mmm-hmm. >> academy award-winning director jim brooks is a producer of this movie. this is the eighth film they've worked on together. >> very nice! >> what's unique about hans, says brooks and other directors, is how deeply involved he gets in more than just writing the music. his process typically begins with a conversation with the director long before a single frame of the movie is shot. >> you talk about what the movie's about. the story of it. what the scene's about. you don't turn to a composer for that.

>> so he becomes almost a partner in the -- >> absolutely -- >> -- writing and the directing -- >> yeah, yeah, yeah -- >> -- every phase? >> yeah, yeah. >> on "gladiator," he partnered with director ridley scott. he says he told him that he thought this movie should be about more than just a man in a skirt going into battle. >> and i felt right at the beginning we needed to set up the possibility that in this movie we could have poetry. >> can we listen just to a bit -- >> i mean -- >> -- of the musicic that you wrote for the -- ♪♪ >> it stararts off with h just note. >> and you see the hand. >> and you see the hand. and you're already in a different woworld. >> and there's -- no one is talking -- >> you left the 20th century. you don't expect the tenderness. >> i mean, you are setting a mood. >> it's a cry. it's a cry.

>> his love of music -- his obsession -- grew out of his childhood in west germany. while other kids liked to play games, he liked to play the piano. >> so did you take piano lessons? >> absolutely. it was two weeks of absolute torture. >> two weeks? >> well, yeah, because he then went to my mother and said, "it's either him or me." and, luckily, my mother made the right choice. she kept me, you know? [ laughter ] no, no -- >> i drove -- i drove him crazy. you know, i'm 6 years old. so my idea was a piano teacher is somebody who teaches you how to -- the stuff that's going on in your head, how to get that into your fingers. that's not what they do. they make you do scales. they make you play other people's music. and i didn't want to do other people's music. >> right from the beginning. >> right from the beginning. but i promise you, i know my beethoven and my brahms inside out. >> he learned about them from his mother, a classically trained pianist. >> and there is the other side, which was my dad who was an extraordinarily appalling jazz

clarinetist, but with great enthusiasm. in the middle of his work day, he'd get out the clarinet. i'd be banging around on -- and we'd be jamming, you know? so that's where i got the joy. >> instead of college, he became a rock and roller performing with the buggles. ♪ video killed the radio star ♪ >> he's that young guy in the black jacket on the synthesizer. they made pop history in 1981 with the first music video to air on mtv. he began composing scores for low-budget films, one of which in 1988 caught the attention of the hollywood director barry levinson -- >> so, this is where it all began. >> -- who showed up one night out of the blue at what was then hans' london studio. >> and so he said, "would i mind coming to los angeles and maybe so, off i went to los angeles. and i got nominated for an oscar. >> first movie, really. >> first movie. i didn't win, but it didn't

matter because everybody wanted to meet me. >> that film was no less than "rain man," which led to "driving miss daisy," "thelma & louise," "black rain," and more than 140 other films that began to push the sound of movie music into a new direction. >> i love the idea that electronics let you shape sounds in a way that go beyond the way an orchestra can. >> he became a pioneer in fusing electronics with orchestral music, using his secret weapon: a digital library that he built himself, with original computer code. he painstakingly recorded each instrument in a real orchestra, note by note, using world-class musicians and the finest instruments, and loading it all into his computer. >> take a violin. and you have the violin play

middle c. and then you have that instrument play middle c loud, soft, and all different. >> oh, yeah. look, look. it can play pizzicato. it can play short, you know. >> so, you're not making it piccato. they played it that way. >> they played it that way. >> and you're bringing that up? whoa. that must've taken months. >> no, it's actually taken years. >> and millions of dollars. he doesn't write out his compositions on paper, his computer does it for him, and it helps create the "unconventional sound" you'd find in his scores. >> scraping metal. >> yeah. >> and electronic thuds. music?

>> it can be. everything can be made to be a musical instrument in one way or the other. >> he often collaborates with pedro eustache, a world-class flautist, who has built contraptions that produce unusual sounds that hans thinks up for his movies. >> this is an ostrich egg, okay? >> that's an ostrich egg! you put the holes in. >> yeah, and i put all that there. and, it's a musical instrument. >> so you made -- >> yeah. >> -- an ocarina out of the ostrich -- >> let me explain. >> yes, please. >> when he's not stealing eggs at the zoo, he is a very good customer of home depot. and -- [ laughter ] and so many of his instruments made out of pvc piping. >> pedro actually used pvc piping to come up with this 21-foot-longhorn that hans wanted for "dune." he's currently working on "dune: part two."

>> gute nacht hamburg! >> and n now he goeses on tour a 3838-piece orcrchestra andnd o perfororm his movivie scores.. >> how havave you chananged? you've beeeen working g at this 40 y years. >> i t tell you whwhat. so, when you start out, you have all that stuff that you've never done before. every movie had every idea, every device, every chord change, every -- whatever in it. now, i think it's more of figuring it out what to do new. but it becomes harder and harder, because i've used up so much ammunition in the past. >> he told us that after more than 150 films, he lives in constant fear of the day his phone will stop ringing. >> even after 150? do you think you're motivated by that fear? >> but it's only 150. do you know what i mean? [ laughter ]

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