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i'm mo rocca. "face the nation" is next and please join us next sunday morning. ♪ ♪ i'm margaret brennan in washington, and this week on "face the nation," extreme heat continues to smash records around the world and tactics being taken by texas officials at the border to deter migrants
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come under screwed ascrutiny. as july slogs on, so did the severe weather episodes dominating the summer of 2023. >> the idea that there's not global warning can't be denied by anybody anymore. >> the high temperatures are raising concerns about the future of the planet. but what can be done at this point? we'll talk to phoenix mayor kate gallego. the justice department ordered the removal of floating barriers in the rio grande after reports of injuries to migrants trying to enter the u.s. >> one of the goals is to slow down and deter as many of them as possible. >> we'll ask texas republican congressman tony gonzalez about some of the measures being used and his new immigration proposal. plus, the culture wars on the campaign trail intensify as vice president kamala harris blasts new florida guidelines
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for eaching black history in schools. >> they want to replace history with lies. they insult us in an attempt to gaslight us, and we will not have it. we will not have it. florida governor and gop presidential hopeful ron desantis says he doesn't involved but -- >> they're probably going to show some of the folks that eventually parlayed being a black smith into doing something later in life. >> we'll talk to former new jersey governor and republican candidate chris christie about that, and a possible third indictment facing president trump. finally, the facts surrounding gender-affirming care with the head of the organization that sets the guidelines for treatment, dr. marci bowers. it's all just ahead on "face the nation."
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♪ good morning and welcome to "face the nation." the excruciating heat and severe weather continues here in washington, and more than 75 million americans are under a hot weather watch today. here is our mark strassmann. >> reporter: phoenix wilting in the valley of the sun stroke, dehydration, dizziness and delirium, today's forecast, a record 24th straight day with temperatures hitting 110 degrees or more. >> i've been sweating all over my body. >> reporter: people wither in weather this hot. july is poised to become earth's hottest month in at least the last 6,500 years. ask palm springs, california and our carter evans. >> reporter: no kids on the flay ground today. you can understand why. the temperature here on the slide is 171 degrees.
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>> reporter: to case forecast will be a continuing meditation on climate change with more dangerous highs expected later today. phoenix 113, las vegas 113, tucson 109. in the u.s., more than 3,500 temperature records have been set this month alone. keeping cool can be a matter of life and death. america's leading weather-related killer, not hurricanes, not tornadoes, excessive heat. >> heat wave that drives dozens of people or more to an emergency department is a mass casualty event. >> reporter: officially extreme heat kills roughly 700 people a year. experts like dr. chris ted des ski, a columbia emergency medicine physician says the death toll is much higher. >> there's a b big stressss. >> there's's a limit. >> at some point your body is not made to function in these temperatures.
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it just doesn't work. >> also strained, power grids in southern california, arizona and texas. some areas could see rolling blackouts. even the oceans feel heat stress, shocking ocean omgts, up to five degrees warmer than usual. that's endangering korlt reefs that provide a natural barrier against storms heading to shore. later this week the heat wave and misery can rise to the country's midsection. >> that's mark strassmann in atlanta. we go to the mayor of phoenix, kate gallego who joins us from scottsdale. good morning to you, mayor. every single day this month it's been 110 or above in your city. i know you're used to hot weather in the desert, but the
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duration of this heat wave. what has been the impact? >> the heat has been unrelenting in our community. i'm so thankful to our first responders who are out there taking care of people who are vulnerable, to anyone who has to work outdoors. we appreciate what they're doing. we're urging them to be careful. we got a little bit of precipitation last night, so it was a little cooler this morning, and it was a real gift. >> the public service, your power grid operator there in arizona told us they're marking seven days in a row of the highest customer electricity use ever. so that's a lot of strain and we're not en into august. is this sustainable? >> we have to be innovative and that is the phoenix way. we build for extreme temperatures in the summer so we've made infrastructure investments that help us get out of these challenges, but this summer has set some tough records. i talk to a lot of mayors
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because i'm from a city that's known for heat, and sometimes when they have what's for them unusual heat we can provide useful advice. we are looking at the building materials we choose so that we can maintain less heat and hopefully cool more at night. that's a change that can help long term. we've made some real changes with our fire department and other responders to be more sustainable, and then we've set up a permanent office in the city of phoenix. i believe i was the first mayor to do so, that just focuses on heat response so that when we have good ideas, people know where to go. >> are you getting calls asking you, mayor, how do i deal with this? >> i spoke a lot this summer with mayors from texas. when we talked about some of the things that our first responders do that might be useful to them, for example, we have mobile cooling units that can go to an emergency site like a fire where firefighters can go inside and cool down while they're fighting a tough blaze.
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residents have also used those sometimes when there's an intense fire the electricity needs to go down for safety if wires are down and our residents can go into those mobile cooling units. we even have tactics where we can go out with ivs that have been cooled, and that can cool people from the inside which can save lives. another program we have that's very popular is our cool pavement program. so we are just really looking at how we design the city. >> ivs to cool people from the inside, wow. can you tell me, you have said that phoenix has a 100-year water supply. you have to show that before you develop, but given these changes and how extreme they are, can you actually say that you trust all the plans you have that the infrastructure you're building is meant to withstand this? do you need to slow down your development because of this heat?
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>> i hold an environmental degree from harvard, and i worked in water and utilities before running for office. so this is something that i believe i was hired to focus on. we take long-term planning very seriously. that 100-year water supply you mentioned is pretty unusual for a planning timeframe. some cities just plan on a matter of years or decades. we are a desert community, and we take that into account when we make any decisions about development. my city council and i unanimously passed sustainable desert guidelines that will push so when we use our natural landscaping, much more resilient to the heat and lower water use. we're really pushing on water recycling and moving forward with a billion dollar plan in that area. we know that it is going to get hotter and that we need to worry about long-term drought, so we plan ahead. >> i ask you about development. arizona and phoenix are very much on the national stage because of the billions of taxpayer dollars hat are being
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invested, particularly in semiconductors, computer chips and this is part of president biden's big plan to make america more sustainable, and a lot of those centers will be based out in arizona, but this then past week the world's biggest maker of those computer chips taiwan semiconductor said they can't find enough skilled workers in your area and they'll have to slow everything down. how concerned are you about that problem? >> we are very excited to be the future of semiconductors. it is so important that we are onshoring manufacturing of these essential devices into the united states and we will take an all hands on deck to make sure it is successful. president biden has picked phoenix as one of the innovation job hubs, and we'll be able to partner with the u.s. department of commerce in particular, but
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across his administration to do training for our residents. we have a very successful project with our community college where people can get a six-week certificate in semiconductors that's produced hundreds of graduates so far, but we know we have to turn it up so we have to deliver not just for arizona, but for the world. >> we will watch that developing story, mayor. thank you for your time today. >> and we are joined now by texas republican congressman tony gonzales who is in san diego, california. >> good morning, margaret. thank you for having me. as you well know the justice department has given governor abbott until 1:00 p.m. on monday to remove this floating barrier in the rio grande which he says is in place to expel migrants. do you think this is humane and acceptable? >> i think the border crisis has been anything but humane. i think you're seeing the governor do everything he possibly can to secure the border, but you have this states versus central government non-stop going back and forth. the buoys are one step. i think you're seeing how desperate a situation is
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happening in texas, but what i'm seeing is people are getting injured along the border. people are drowning certainly in that river. i would much rather see not one person step foot in that river vice going through these obstacles in other areas. >> right. the administration says in one week alone agents reported dozens of migrants with injuries including those broken limbs you referenced and drownings, including several children under the age of 1. should those buoys be removed now? >> i don't think the buoys are the problem. honestly, margaret, every single week we see people drown. last year there were hundreds of migrants downing. i'm glad it's getting some attention. i'd much rather see the attention get focused on something else. the reality is the buoy is a small little portion of the
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river. so it continues to have these other obstacles. i am concerned, though, that i've seen reports that dps troopers, over a dozen have filed complaints about what is happening. >> the administration is looking at some of these claims being made by texas troopers and texas medics. one of them nicholas wingate had an e-mail that went public. i'm sure you've seen it. he said troopers were ordered to push small children and nursing babies back into the river, to deny water to migrants in this extreme heat. he said a pregnant woman who was in the midst of a miscarriage had to be cut out of razor wire she was ensnared in. this is your district. is this acceptable? these tactics? >> it's not acceptable and it hasn't been acceptable for two years. if is appropriate for president biden -- >> these tactics specifically. this medic is saying they will take measures under the law and not ones that are inhumane.
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are these tactics, in your view, inhumane? >> everything that is happening along the border is just adding fuel to the fire. the governor, no doubt, is doing everything he can to secure the border, but there is a disconnect between what is happening at the top and the person at the ground that is doing the actual function. i would be happy to host the president of the united states in eagle pass and walk through the situation. to me, congress has to solve this because we've been waiting on a president for decades to solve this and it's not going to be solved and that's why i introduced the higher act. what the higher act does is it focuses on legal immigration. i'm a proponent of legal immigration. right now nine out of ten people illegally do not qualify for asylum so let's stop sending them down this route. i'm excited this higher act has a dozen republican co-sponsors and half a dozen democrat co-sponsors. it takes work visas from one year to three years. >> do you have any pledge from the speaker of the house that
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he'll put your bill to a vote? >> i've spoken with leadership on both sides of the aisle. i think this bill has a long way to go. in my eyes in the 118th congress what can get done is something along these lines. immigration reform has for so long been focused on the fringes and focused on border security or pathway to citizenship. this doesnone of that. this focuses on work visas. >> right. it's very, very, very narrow and very focused on seasonal workers and extending for a very short period of time, which i understand your broader efforts, but it's chipping away at a problem. in the moment we are in, do you think this immediate crisis at the border, do you have any doubts about the effectiveness of what the state is doing? >> i do worry what's happening at all levels, state, local, federal, and what i see is a disconnect. i see distrust. i see republicans blaming republicans and democrats blaming republicans and round and round we go with nothing getting accomplished. the goal of the act was one
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simple thing, create trust and put one step forward. >> in terms of the policies in place right now at the border, a california judge is poised to potentially throw out some of the biden border policies that were put in place because they're characterized as too restrictive, okay? this would declare migrants ineligible for asylum if they enter illegally and the court may throw that out. what do you think will happen and do you think the administration deserves any credit for what they have put in place? >> the numbers are absolutely down, but we're still on track for 100,000 people coming over illegally a month and they are down. i would much rather see the administration, instead of focusing on illegal immigration because right now, nine out of ten people that claim asylum aren't going to get asylum. so stop sending them down this
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dead end road and i would much rather partner on the administration on legal immigration. there's no talk of increasing legal pathways. it's only what happens when people are here illegally. >> so homeland security and the secretary deserve some credit for the numbers being down, but you're saying it's insufficient. >> they do deserve some credit for the numbers being down, but there are a lot of reasons for that. it is also 115 degrees in texas right now. so a lot of people are waiting until a cooler part of the year to come over. but once again, i don't want one person to step one foot in that river illegally. what if there was a route when they didn't have to be smuggled in a train, and what it got passed and people would be able to live legally and not live in the shadows and be able to live their lives. most people are coming here for one reason, margaret, and that's economic purposes. >> i want to ask you about other bipartisan efforts you have undertaken for school safety and around guns. uvalde is in your district, and you championed the bipartisan safer communities act which was
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put in place after the uvalde massacre. so why is it that schools in your district are being denied grants that they were supposed to be given under this law? >> i had a discussion with the attorney general on this, and to his credit we're working together on it. there's a couple things. one is, honestly, the money isn't going to the places it needs to go. that's one. a lot of areas and a lot of times these rural communities and small west texas community, they have police officers. if they were to get this grant -- they stayed up until 11:00, filling out this grant, the best they could and a large part of that is getting the help they need. >> understood. ththank you, c congressmanan, fr timeme today. "face ththe nation" " will be r back. stayay with us.. nevever been a repoported ransosomware attk on a c chromebook.k. which h is why thousasands of schchools
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from bayhead, new jersey, this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning, margaret. >> i want to get to a number of issues with you, one of which right up top are these culture wars. vice president kamala harris, as you know is taking aim at this florida guideline in terms of new, educational standards, a component of which says, and i'm quoting slaves developed skills which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit. governor desantis who signed a law requiring changes in how race is taught in school said this was all written by scholars. here's exactly what he said. >> i didn't do it, and i wasn't involved in it, but i think what they're doing is i think that they're probably going to show some of the folks that eventually parlayed, you know, being a blacksmith into doing things later in life.
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>> i wonder what you think of this controversy and how it reflects on your party? >> i think two things, margaret. first of all, i didn't do it and i'm not involved in it are not the words of leadership. you know, look, governor desantis started this fire with the bill that he signed and now he doesn't want to take responsibility for whatever is dne in the aftermath of it and from listening and watching his comments he's obviously uncomfortable. the second part is this is one of the reasons i'm running, margaret. the issues, the smaller issues when we have big issues in the country like runaway inflation that continues to hurt families and like an educational system, instead of worrying about this, let's talk about the falling test score throughout this country that are making us less competitive with the rest of the world. you know, we have enormous issues to deal with in this country and around the world and
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we're spending time, and i don't plame you for asking, but we're spending time on this as the first question to a presidential candidate on a sunday morning. >> right. >> the fact is governor desantis starts these things for political advantage and tries to take political advantage of them and then he says i don't know. i didn't do it. i wasn't involved. i mean, that's not leadership, margaret. >> i understand the point you're making, but when you said focusing on smaller issues and the issue of race is in this country and you're not referring to those as one of the smaller issues. >> no. i'm talking about governors micromanaging curriculum in schools, and the fact is that, you know, if this was such a big issue for governor desantis, he had four years to do this. he only started to focus this when he decided he wanted to run for president and try to get to the right of donald trump and so i think people see this as politically manipulative, and i'm talking about, margaret,
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we're dividing our country interest smaller and smaller and smaller pieces and politicians are pitting them against each other to create conflict and that's not going to bring the country bigger, better, stronger or freer, but if we improve the entire education system so they're going up and they can get great jobs and be competitive with the rest of the world, that's the kind of thing the president should be inspiring people to do. >> under stood. on the issue of parental right which is has been a huge focus of so many republican candidates, back when you were governor of new jersey, you protected bills to protect transgender residents. why do you think you are one of the few republicans not embracing the culture wars when pretty much everyone else in the field is embracing them. >> listen, margaret. i have very clear views on this that parents should be making these decisions inside their families with their children the same way parents should be deciding, in my view, and we'll
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be talking about this in the coming weeks where their children should be going to school and how they should be educated since our public education system in so many places are failing folks. so i want to be very clear about this. i'm obviously, as a parent, concerned and aware of these issues, but parents should be making these decisions. parents should be the ones who work with their children to work through some of these difficult problems and let's remember something else on the transgender issue with minors, margaret. you know, you're talking about over the last three years, less than a thousand minors who have been involved in this in terms of transitioning in a country of 330 million people. that's what i'm talking about in terms of small and it's not that the issues don't matter. it's just that they don't matter to the great, vast number of people in the country who want to be helped. >> understood. i have to take a break, g goverr anand we'll c come backk to you minute andnd finish ththe coconversationon. ststay with usus.
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