welcome back to "face the nation." we want to continue with los angeles mayor karen bass. madam mayor your city has an unhoused population of more than

40,000 people. some of them reside in these l.a. riverbed areas. are you going to have to go in and clear them out because of the rains that are coming? >> well, actually, outreach started a couple days ago and you are right, we have hundreds of people on our riverbeds and every time we have a rain event, helicopters drive by as well as hundreds of outreach workers go by in advance to tell them to seek shelter and we do have shelters open. if you talk about our county, if you add in the county you're talking about more than 70,000 people who are unhoused and the vast majority of them are living outside in tents. >> when we spoke to you last year your said your first plan of action was to declare a state of emergency to tackle that homelessness. why hasn't it made more of a difference? >> oh, well, again, you're talking about a tremendous

number of people. we did declare a state of emergency on my first day in office and in my first six months, we housed 14,000 people. but it just shows you the magnitude of the problem. in addition, i am worried because of the covid protections ending like an eviction moratorium, et cetera, we're going to have more people who become housing insecure and hopefully do not fall on our streets. we are working as fast as we can, and especially in a situation like this, where lives could be lost because of the weather event. >> in terms of economic strain, which is a factor, you have multiple labor strikes in your city. on the writers and actors strike, the two sides are still negotiating, but this has now dragged on, what, longer than the last strike back in 2008. that strike drained more than $2 billion from the economy. how hard is this hitting you? what are you doing to mitigate

it? >> well, it is hitting us very hard and you are just talking about the writers. the writers have been on strike for more than 100 days, but we also have the screen actors guild on strike as well. the actors. i will say that negotiations are at least under way, so that is a it step in the right direction, but you are absolutely correct, the entertainment industry is our foundational industry to our economy, and so our economy has been hit very hard. >> is it time to -- >> in addition hotel workers are on strike. >> is it time to intervene in those? >> oh, i have been deeply involved in conversations with all of the affected parties. i am hopeful that there will be a breakthrough given that negotiations are under way and that's an advance because that was not happening for many weeks. >> before i let you go, i want to ask you about your role as a

surrogate for president biden's re-election campaign. our latest polling shows 70% of americans feel things in the country are going somewhat badly. or very badly. why suspect his message of accomplishment breaking through? >> well, i mean, i think that's in part my job and other individuals to talk about what has been accomplished during the biden administration. i mean, for the first time we've had a lot of agreements around climate change, around transportation, infrastructure, if you remember, the last administration had infrastructure numerous times but there was never a bill passed. a historic bill was passed under biden administration's and the economy is getting better. a few weeks ago we were all anticipating -- a few months ago -- a terrible recession. that has not happened. i think that's indication of the strength of the biden administration's policies. >> okay. well maybe some optimism will

break through some time soon there. madam mayor, we have to leave it and we'll be back. thank you. >> thank you. for a closer look at how the federal government is assisting hawaii and preparing for the next disaster we were joined by deanne criswell. good morning to you. >> good morning, margaret. >> the president told americans he has put fema on standby to deal with any impact from hurricane hilary. what are you preparing for at this point? >> margaret, it's a really good question. hurricane hilary is going to produce some really significant impacts to southern california. we have a team that is embedded in california in the state and several staff, one of our offices is in california, so we had a lot of staff already on the ground. we are moving in some additional resources to make sure that we can support anything that

california might need, but they're a very capable state as well and they have a lot of resources. if it does exceed what their capability is we're going to have additional search and rescue teams and commodities to support anything they might ask for. >> i know you will be traveling with president biden to hawaii. what is it that you think he needs to see firsthand? >> you know, i think the biggest thing that the president needs to see is just the actual impact, right. it really feels different when you're on the ground and can see the total devastation of lahaina town. then he'll talk to some of the families that have been impacted by this and hear their stories, and what he's going to be able to do, he's really going to be able to, one, bring hope to this community but reassure them that federal government is there. he has directed them to bring the resources they need to help them as they begin to start

their recovery and their rebuilding process, and do it in a way that they want us to help them with, right. this is their town, and we want to be able to support their vision for what lahaina town rebuilds to look like. >> i know federal investigators are now on the ground from atf to assist with the probe into how this wildfire started. the governor of hawaii has said many times that he believes that global warming is really the cause of what happened here. now there's scrutiny of human decision making too. does his conclusion about global warming match the facts you've seen? >> you know, i think what i would say is that we are seeing, right, a significant increase in the severity of the types of events that we're experiencing, the severe weather events that are fueled by these extreme winds, which is what we saw here, right. records, decades of droughts, dry conditions, and then these winds. when all of these different

climate-related events come together, you know, it produces these catastrophic type events. the governor has ordered an assessment of this entire situation, and i would defer to you and the other officials that will be doing the investigation to better understand what overall cause was. >> but if it makes natural disasters that much more intense that ends up on your desk, right. do you think that fema needs to be doing more to anticipate some of these worst case scenarios and decision by local officials that make these things sometimes even more impactful? >> margaret, i think, you know, threats we're seeing today are very different than what we saw 5 to 10 years ago, right. they are more intense, they are more complex. so we do need to make sure it that we're working with all of our communities to understand what the risks are going to continue to look like as we go into the next 5 or 10 years. we are working very hard with

all of our local and state officials to better anticipate and understand what the risk landscape is going to look like, what types of mitigation measures they can put in place to help reduce the impacts of these risks, and help communities with their preparedness plans and help individuals make sure they understand what the risks are going to be. you know, thanks to the investments through the bipartisan infrastructure law, we have been given additional funding to really go into these communities and help them anticipate and put mitigation projects in place to reduce the impacts that we're seeing from these severe weather events. >> so should there be a national standard, for example, on when to actyvivate a siren? >> i think that's something up to each individual community. sirens are used for a variety of things. the most important thing is that communities use the tools that they have to understand how they're going to prepare and warn individuals and they put those plans in place. >> the cost of this is going to

be a conversation here in washington, as you know. you testified before congress back in july that fema's disaster funds would be depleted by late august. that comes right in that atlantic hurricane season time period. fema officials said on friday to reporters that the agency has sufficient resources to meet the immediate life-saving operations. those things seem contradictory. how close are you to depleting % this disaster fund? >> yeah. we're watching our disaster relief fund very closely, and the projections that we've put out there, the analysis that we do, takes into account the response to a major event like we are responding to in maui or that we will respond to potentially in california. our system do still stay that we may have a depletion of our fund now. it's pushed into the middle of september. as we get closer to that, i mean, this is a day by damon touring of the situation, we

will start to move some of our recovery projects and delay them until the next fiscal year so we can assure we have enough funding to do life-sustaining needs for any of these systems developing, whether it's california or what we're seeing in the atlantic. >> congress doesn't come back until after labor day to authorize new funding. can you say what you have in your hands won't impact operations? >> it will not impact response because we will push recovery into the next fiscal year to ensure that we have enough funding to support any responses through the end of this fiscal year. >> okay. so is $12 billion, which is what president biden is asking congress for, is that going to be enough, given what you're seeing happen? >> yeah. the 12 $12 billion was to covere immediate needs we need to get through this fiscal year as we're continuing to see the

increase in the severe weather events, that dollar amount may need to go up as we go into the next fiscal year and what we need to do to be able to continue to respond to the increased number of events that are happening across the nation. >> administrator criswell, thank you for your time and good luck. >> thank you, margaret. if you want to help the victims of the maui fire, find a lot of ways to do that at cbsnews.com/helpmaui.. we'l'll be rightht back. she's bebeen lookingng for. sotyktu is the f first-of-itits-kind, once-d-daily pilll for momoderate-to-o-severe plplaque psoririasis for the chance a at clear or almosost clear skskin. it's likike the feeleling of f finding youour back.... is back. or fininding psoririasis cacan't deny t the splendodr of thehese thighs.s. oncece-daily sototyktu is prpn toto get more e people clclearer skinin than t the leadingng pill. don't t take if yoyou're allerc to sotyktu;; seririous reactitions can oco. sotyktu u can lower r your abiy to f fight infecections including g tb.

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we turn to the 2024 campaign and our new cbs news poll shows former president trump with his biggest lead yet this cycle with support of 62% of republican primary voters surveyed. florida governor ron desantis has dropped since our last survey. he's now at 16%. and the roest of thefield remai in single digits as they prepare

for the primary debate this week. anthony salvanto is here with us. anthony, great to see you in person. >> good to see you. >> does it matter to the primary voters if donald trump is on that stage or not? >> he's not in a competitive race right now. right now, they would nominate him and it would be not close, an easy win for him. look, you know, there's a couple of dynamics here going on for those who do debate that i think even underpin him more, and that is, when we ask voters what it to you want to hear in this debate? you get this lopsided number that once the other candidates make the case for yourself but don't criticize donald trump. 9% want to hear critiques. that puts the others in a box lot. >> it dynamic with donald trump is always different, isn't it? have the indictments he has had to date impacted him in any way? >> he's held steady. his lead as you said at the top

is bigger as the rest of the field has fallen back. >> sounds like no? >> the answer is no. it's underpinning him in this regard. he is, when we ask, why are you supporting donald trump? well among other reasons, his voters say is to support him during his legal fights to show that support. in that regard it does help him or at least it girds that support from his substantial base. well, the other part of this, though, if we unpack it is why, and you see a couple things. one is, that they reject the premise of these indictments because, a, they say they're politically motivated and that swamps any other concerns, number one. we've seen that throughout all the indictments. number two, they say that well, if donald trump tried to stay in office, they feel it was through legal and constitutional means, that's different from other americans who think it was illegal, but for republicans,

the reason they feel that way, is that so many of them still buy what trump was talking about in terms of a fraudulent election. those unfounded, unproven claims. republicans believe that. so that's how that narrative then forms that but tress against what's coming at him in the indictments. i have to add this, and that is, republicans to a larger degree see the u.s. political system, they tell us, as corrupt. a lot of people think it's dysfunctional, but republicans in particular think it's corrupt. what that does, it sets up trump for them as the honest broker for them against that system. in fact, he's winning among people who want an honest candidate. they see him as the truth teller. >> that's fascinating dynamic. so for everyone else who has to show up at that debate stage, how do they differentiate themselves? >> well, i think there's one possible opening between the --

what people say they're hearing and what they want to hear and it's this, republican voters tell us they're hearing a lot about donald trump. he's the frontrunner, but they don't all want to hear that in part because of the indictment news. what they want to hear about is the economy. specifically, about plans to help lower inflation, to help the economy. in that way, they're like all american voters it at this point, right. they care how does the price of eggs come down, how do they get to buy a house if they're trying to. >> they want more policy. that's interesting. this is fascinating. and you can find the full poll results on our website at cbsnews.com. we'll be back in a moment.

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for a look at some health concerns on the horizon as we approach the end of summer including a rise in covid cases and questions about updates to vaccines, we're joined by former fda commissioner dr. scott gottlieb who sits on the board of pfizer. it's great to have you in person. >> thanks a lot. >> i want to start on news we got on thursday. the cdc announced a mutated strain of covid has shown up in michigan, ba.2.86.

how concerned does the public need to be? >> right now i've talked to n number of virologists and they're concerned about this. it doesn't appear to be spreading wildly. seven strains identified and sequenced in five countries. the uk, denmark, israel and now in the u.s. we don't know whether or not this has been spreading quietly and didn't detect it or something spreading quickly. >> the concern is when you look at these strains identified, they're genetically similar. that suggests it's spreadly simultaneously in multiple countries. whether or not this is more transmissible than what we've seen before is the key question. certainly at this point it doesn't appear more path know genic. doesn't appear to be more dangerous but more transmissible than the strains circulating now and it could overtake them. it's too early to know. the testing is under way. we will know more in a week or two. put this in perspective, this new variant is as genetically different from omicron as

omicron is different than what emerged in wuhan. >> that set off alarm bells at that time. we will watch this, but for people at home who say i've heard someone that has covid the strain causing most is not this one? >> right. right now the two strains circulating causing infections is called eg-5, people have heard about that, the era strain and the other strain fl 151 that have a similar mutation called the 456 mutation that allows them to pierce the immunity we've acquired from prior infections and prior vaccinations. people getting infected with that. the good news is that where we are right now relative to where we were last summer when ba.5 was spreading is a lot better. there's fewer infections. we have probably roughly about 600,000 infections a day happening based on the modeling work that's been done looking at waste water daughters and about 10,000 people hospitalized in the last week. compare that to last year last year we had 40,000 people

hospitalized and running 1.2 million infections a day. >> for those strains, there is a booster shot that i know pfizer has talked about coming to market soon. it's still not available. when do we expect it, and does it protect against these variants? >> right. the data looks like the new booster, based on ba 1.15 the strain that emerged last spring, looks like it will protect against the new variants. my guess is these new variants, this infection rate from the wave of infections from eg 5 is going to be coming down by the time the new vaccine is available which is going to be mid-september. september 12th the date they've talked about. it's going to be some point in mid september these will be widely accessible in pharmacies and other health departments and people can get it. there are studies under way called neutralization studies, laboratory studies, to look at whether the new vaccine covers ba.286 variant that you talked about at the top of the show, and we'll have that data by the time the new vaccines become

available. so by the time these are out in september consumers will know how well, it covers that new variant. we'll know whether or not it's spreading. >> moderna has one, perhaps. >> and pfizer and novavax as well. >> so what is different as we go into the fall and back to school is that the federal government emergency programs have largely stopped. so people have to actually plan getting their vaccine. you can't get them for free everywhere. how is that going to impact what the season look like ahead? >> yeah. insurers are going to cover these vaccines in the same way they cover flu vaccines. people under insured or uninsured the administration has a program where people will get these for free at pharmacies. that program should be up and running by the time the vaccines become available and also free of charge at federally qualified community health centers and public health departments day one. they should be widely accessible. it doesn't mean there's not going to be gaps in coverage in people who face certain hardships but broadly most people should be able to get these free of charge without a co-pay based on what i'm seeing

right now from the insurance companies. >> of course, they have to choose to get them and we know what, 17% of the population took the booster shot according to the cdc last it time around. why does someone need to continue to update? >> yeah. look, i thin we have to have a lot of humility around this virus. there's a lot we don't understand and continuing to surprise us as with the ba 286 mutation. this does look like it's going to be a flu like paradigm, new variants emerge each year, hopefully we'll guess right in how we form late the vaccines. you need updated protection to match the vaccine against the variants circulating. people will have residual immunity from prior infection and vaccination that protects them against severe disease even if they don't get vaccinated but if you want to update that protection and more protection against the possibility of infection, you will need to keep up to date with your vaccine. the flu vaccine is available right now.

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