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and three people are killed in a racially motivated shooting in jacksonville, florida. we'll have the latest on both stories. another first for the american presidency last week, a booking photo of former president trump after he was charged, along with 18 others, with conspiring to overturn the 2020 election results. >> we did nothing wrong. i did nothing wrong. everybody knows it. i've never had such support. >> trump may be right about that support, as his campaign says they brought in more than $7 million thanks in part to mugshot merch. his competitors -- >> please raise your hand if you would. >> most, including former vice president mike pence, say they'd support him for president, even if he's convicted. we'll talk to pence, along with former new jersey governor chris christie, who feels much differently. >> someone's got to stop normalizing this conduct. >> have you seen donald trump's

mugshot yet? >> i did see it on television. >> what did you think? >> handsome guy. >> we'll have analysis and talk about the complicated legal calendar with our political panel. then a child care cliff looming next month and a bipartisan duo hoping to prevent it. south carolina republican nancy mace and california democrat ro khanna will talk about the millions of children who could lose their care if congress doesn't act. finally, russia expert fiona hill weighs in on the mysterious plane crash that killed russian mercenary chief yevgeny prigozhin after his failed coup attempt against vladimir putin. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ good morning. and welcome to "face the

nation." we've got a lot to get to today, but we want to begin with that crash of an osprey aircraft carrying 23 u.s. marines. three of those marines are now confirmed dead, and five more have been seriously injured. it happened during a multinational training exercise on melville island in australia's northern territory. the incident is under investigation and we will update you as we learn more. the other breaking story, a dollar store in jacksonville, florida, is the site of a racially motivated shooting yesterday. cbs news correspondent christian ben vitas reports from the scene. >> reporter: a heart broken community left reeling after officials say a gunman opened fire inside a dollar general store in jacksonville, florida, killing three people before taking his own life. all three of the victims were black. police say the suspect was motivated by hate.

he walked into the store saturday afternoon wearing a mask and tactical vest. >> finely put, the shooting was racially motivated. >> reporter: in writings left behind by the gunman who was described as a white man in his early '20s authorities say he described his hateful ideology. this picture released by the sheriff's office shows swastikas drawn on the ar-15 style rife he used to carry out the attack >> we stand together as a community. we live together as a community. we fight together as a community. when someone comes into our city and does this, we're not going to stand for it and we don't accept it. >> reporter: the fbi has opened a federal civil rights investigation and will investigate this as a hate crime. the shooting happened less than a mile from edward waters university, a historically black university. in a statement the school said they believe the suspect was on campus earlier in the day, but left after being confronted by a security officer.

>> that was christian ben vitas reporting from jacksonville. we want to turn to politics and former vice president mike pence who joins us from indiana this morning. mr. vice president, thank you so much for being here . >> thank you, nancy. thanks for having me on. >> absolutely. i want to start with this shooting in jacksonville. you know, here we are, it's the eve of the 60th anniversary of the march on washington and yet we're appearing to witness a rise in racial hatred, in white supremacy across the country. what can you do? what can your party do? what can the nation do to address this? >> well, there's no place in america for racially inspired violence, and i condemn what occurred in jacksonville in the strongest possible terms. that wasn't a criminal act. that was an act of evil, and -- but i -- and our prayers are with the families who lost loved

ones and those that are injured and we pray this morning for them. as a marine corps family we pray for the families of our marines that were lost and injured in the osprey crash. we believe in prayer at our house narngssy, but look, this issue of mass shooting is one we need leadership in this country afresh. i will tell you that i believe that there's a series of steps that we can take, providing law enforcement with the support that they need, ending this long experiment of defunding the police by the american left. i think we need to provide federal funding to provide armed guards at our public and private schools. we need a commitment to institutional health care in this country that i've called for many months ago. but at the end of the day, i also believe it that justice delayed is justice denied, and i'm calling for an expedited

federal death penalty for anyone engaged in a mass shooting like took place in jacksonville or, frankly, like the shootings that took place at a baseball park and at a football game. we've got to send a message to anyone that has evil in their hearts that there is no chance for them to spend the rest of their lives behind bars. they're going to meet their fate in months, not years, and i believe -- i believe expedited due process of federal death penalty for those that engage in the kind of mass shootings that claimed the lives in jacksonville yesterday is an idea whose time has come. >> understood. let's turn to the republican primary. there was a moment a lot of people will remember from the debate the other day, and that was when all of the candidates were asked whether they thought you did the right thing on january 6th, 2020. let's listen quickly to how some of them responded.

>> vice president pence did the right thing. >> mike pence did the right thing on january 6th. >> mike pence stood for the constitution. >> absolutely. he did the right thing. >> mike did his duty. i have no beef with him. >> can you tell us what it felt like to get that kind of validation from your fellow republican leaders after all the abuse you've taken from the maga wing of your party for the past two and a half years for that, for simply doing your job on january 6th? >> well, nancy, it was heartening, but it -- it wasn't anything new. as i've traveled around this country for the last two and a half years, americans from every walk of life have come up to me and expressed their appreciation for the fact that we did our duty that day. look, as i said, i understand the disappointment in the 2020 election. i was on the ballot. but under our constitution, states certify elections. once court cases and reviews and

recount counts are completed, the only duty of the vice president is to preside over a joint session of congress where those votes are opened and counted. i welcome the fact that almost everybody on that stage made it clear that i did my duty that day, and i think the american people deserve to hear where every single one of the candidates from the republican nomination stand. >> i want to ask you about one of those candidates, entrepreneur vivek ramaswamy. you had some criticism of him on the stage. you said the country can afford to have a rookie in the white house. i wonder what you make of his voting record? he's listed as an unaffiliated voter in his home state of ohio. he didn't vote in the '22 primaries. he acknowledged he didn't vote in most presidential elections. he describes himself as, quote, an american nationalist. what's your view of his politics? >> well, you know, where to start? we had a good, vigorous debate,

which is why you have primaries, nancy, and i welcome the chance to contrast my long-standing commitment to the conservative agenda, and frankly, the fact that i believe in all humility, that i'm the most qualified and the most tested candidate in this race, not only with vivek who i've known several years but for everybody else on the stage. this country is in a lot of trouble. i think joe biden, from that disastrous withdrawal in afghanistan two years ago this week, to his policies that launched the worst inflation in 40 years, mortgage rates went up to a 22-year high yesterday, burdening families, their war on energy, the crisis at the border, the assault on our liberties, and now is the time, i believe, for leadership that knows how to move the congress, knows how to move an administration, but also has led a state and made the hard choices of a chief executive at the state level.

i was happy to contrast that. with regard to his voting record -- >> we're talking about ramaswamy here, if you don't mind, mr. vice president. he said he would pardon mr. trump. you were one of six candidates on the stage who said you would support mr. trump, even if he is convicted of a felony. why do you feel that way? especially since you also said on the stage you felt he asked you to put him before the constitution. why should someone like that be president? >> well, look, i signed a pledge to be on that stage to say i would support the republican nominee. i remain confident, more confident after wednesday night, that republican nominee will not be the former president. we're going to give the american people the standard bearer for the gop that's going to be able to lead us to victory against joe biden and the radical left. you know, i raised my hand just to say that i'll support the republican nominee because, nancy, i could never support joe

biden. i mean, joe biden's policies have been disastrous. he and his family are under an ethical cloud themselves. joe biden has trampled on the constitution of the united states. he's failed to faithflly execute our laws at the southern border of the united states. created the worst crisis in american history. the student loan giveaway he was going to ask truck drivers to pay their taxes to pay off the student loans of graduate students was potentially an unconstitutional power grab that i rejected. i'll support the republican nominee, and i'm going to continue to work my heart out to make sure that it's me. >> mr. vice president, we'll be looking forward to the next debate and seeing you there. appreciate you joining us this morning. >> thank you, nancy. good to be with you. with you we turn now to former new jersey governor chris christie. governor, good morning. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me, nancy. it's good to be here. >> do you take issue with former president trump making money off

of his mugshot? >> look, there's almost nothing anymore that he can do that would surprise me in terms of the ongoing rift. donald trump promised the country when he ran in 2016 he would drain the swamp. all he did was rearrange the swamp, rearranged it so he could make money off regular voters to pay his own legal fee, $208,000 for his wife's stylist, and to set up a $2 billion gift from the saudis for ivanka and jared. we see the same thing with hunter biden and what he's doing. we have two ruling families right now in this country who put themselves before the people that they're supposed to represent. we need a wholesale change, and that's why i'm running for president. >> do you think trump supporters are being ripped off when they donate? >> absolutely. you know, when you see $40 million in legal fees in just the first half of the year, and

that was before two of the indictments, these fees are only going to go through the roof and donald trump maybe should sell one of his gayleolf cours or tr towers, but he's taking money and using that money to pay his legal fees. it's unethical, immoral, and it's just another part of the griff that's been going on in washington, d.c. for much too long. and, you know, you look at him and you look at what's going on, as i said, with hunter biden and the way he was selling access to his father when he was vice president, i think we should be tired of both of those acts. >> you said at the debate, and it got a lot of attention that candidates need to stop normalizes trump's conduct, but you stood by him after he was accused of rape, after he praised vladimir putin repeatedly, after he was impeached. didn't you normalize his conduct for a long time as well?

>> the conduct i'm talking about, nancy, is the one that is the greatest threat to our country and the greatest threat to our democracy, and that was standing in front of the cameras from the white house behind the seal of the president on election night and telling people the election was stolen and for now three years, nearly, continuing to say the same thing with absolutely no proof and no evidence. that's the problem, nancy. you know, you can have policy disagreements with someone -- believe me i spoke out at the time about the things i disagreed with donald trump on -- that's much different than taking classified documents from the white house and hiding them for 18 months from the government claiming you don't have them, when these are some of the biggest secrets in our country's arsenal. it's different than undercutting democracy in the way that he was doing so, and leading to the riot we had on capitol hill on january 6th. i'm going to get on that stage, and i'm going to tell the truth, regardless of what other people may think, that is the truth and that's why, you know, i urge

people to go to chris christie.com and donate to support the truth because that's what we're standing up for. >> one of trump's 18 co-defendants in fulton county is his former chief of staff mark meadows, who you know. he's going to be in court tomorrow arguing his charges should be moved to federal court because the conduct in question happened when he was serving in the federal government. you are a former federal prosecutor. what do you think of that argument? >> he's got an argument to make, nancy, there's no doubt, that under the statutes there's an argument to make, but ultimately all of these change of venue decisions are at the discretion of the trial judge, a federal judge, who will be hearing that. he will want to hear the evidence and the battle of competing interests these venue decisions are made on that basis. there is an argument to be made? there's an argument to be made about switching venues to federal court. in the end it won't change matters all that much except that the trial won't be televised. it still has to be governed

under the state laws of atlanta. the only thing that will be different are some of the procedural things that lawyers care about, but in the end, all the charges must remain the same. whether mark meadows wins that motion or doesn't is not going to make a substantive difference on how ultimately a jury is going to be asked to make the decisions at the time of trial. >> an issue that a lot of republican voters care about which is immigration. on the debate stage a couple of your opponents seemed to suggest they would send troops into mexico to fight the drug cartels. governor desantis said he would deploy special forces. do you think that is a viable solution to the fentanyl crisis? wouldn't mexico view that as an act of war? >> i think they would. look, i see it also as an act of war by china to be sending the precursor chemicals to these

mexican drug cartels in orde to make the fentanyl they're sending into the country. i think there are ways to get this done. i think we have to use our intelligence assets. we have to be tougher and stronger at the border to prevent people from coming through. finish the wall that donald trump never finished, only built 52 miles of in four years. we need to make sure we put national guard at the border to stop those folks from coming across the border with fentanyl. i think the invasion of mexico issue is one that sounds good on the debate stage but i think if any of them tried to implement that part of it as president, they would find it's much more complicated than they're making it sound. >> wouldn't it be illegal to have the national guard serving in a law enforcement capacity at the border? >> no. nancy, look, i think what we're doing is protecting the border. they would be working with customs and border patrol folks

hand in hand. they can make the arrest. you need a greater force to prevent them from coming over the border in the first place. it's a combination of the two of them. customs and border patrol would be the law enforcement. they need backup and they need help. and we're not getting that right now from the biden administration. >> former new jersey governor chris christie, thanks for joining us today. >> thanks for having me. have a good sunday. >> "face the nation" will be back in one minute. stay with us. i spent thousands on other diets that didn't work. on golo, i spent a couple hundred bucks and got back down to my high school weight. you're not gonna believe this thing is possible but it is. yeyears ago, w we used too just f fall asleepep withth a full faface of makek. dodon't regretet, just reveve. no7's new future renew with a world-first peptide technology no other skincare product has. even those that cost 10 times more. rereverse visisible signss of s skin damagege in 4 week.

we are back with south carolina republican congresswoman nancy mace and democratic california congressman ro khanna. together, they launched the congressional bipartisan affordable child care caucus, that's a mouthful, to deal with the child care cliff that is barreling down the pike and i want to get to that in just a moment. first, i want to talk to you about politics. congresswoman, president trump

is now facing four indictments, and yet he is still the overwhelming favorite to win the republican nomination. can your party win the presidency if he's the nominee? >> i think both sides are going to have to work hard to win next year. i talk to a lot of voters that are frustrated with both the republican and democrat party, both parties have put us on the spending cliff. talk about child care cliff we'll talk about, but both parties have contributed to the inflation we have today, out-of-control spending, the debt ceiling that will add almost $20 trillion to the debt. both parties have to make a strong case next year, regardless of who the nominee is, but, you know, we'll see what voters decide next year. >> you think trump is a good messenger for that case? >> he's running away with the nomination process. he just raised over $7 million after the fourth indictment, so voters will get a say. i know in my district and in my state, he's a standard bearer for the nomination right now. >> congressman khanna, you said

in april you felt that white house was being too -- the white house was being too overprotective. do you feel that top aides in the white house got that message? s. >> i think they do. the president has a great story to tell. he's bringing back information ohio, $20 billion in ohio of new industry. he's focused on the working class. i was in south carolina yesterday with bishop greene at ame church and the faith community has a lot of support for him. he's a better politician than anyone who works for him. let him be out there. >> congresswoman mace, you are pro life, but you said your party is it too extreme on abortion and on the debate stage the other night, many of the candidates put their support behind a national abortion ban at 15 weeks, perhaps even early. your fellow south carolinian nikki haley was not among them. she said that's unrealistic.

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