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i'm jane pauley. "face the nation" is coming right up. please join us when our trumpet sounds again next sunday morning. ♪ ♪ i'm margaret brennan in washington. this week on "face the nation" -- crisis averted as congress passes a short-term funding extension top keep the government open. we'll speak exclusively this sunday morning with house
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speaker kevin mccarthy. in a dramatic 11th hour scramble on capitol hill, lawmakers voted to extend government funding at current levels for 45 days. the bill passed with overwhelmingly bipartisan support. but did house speaker kevin mccarthy alienate the gop hard liners who refused to vote for it? we'll ask him. what's missing in the bill? any help to deal with the border crisis and there's no aid to ukraine, which the biden administration says will run out before the november 17th deadline. we'll talk to south carolina senator lindsey graham and trump administration defense secretary mark esper. what's included in the bill? $16 billion in disaster relief. that type of funding will help with once unthinkable scenes like the new york flooding. the state's governor kathy hochul will join us. bipartisanship saved the day. this time around on capitol hill. can it happen again? we'll talk to the heads of the self-proclaimed house problem
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solvers caucus. new jersey democrat josh gottheimer and pennsylvania republican fitzpatrick. a tribute to dianne feinstein who died last week at the age of 90 and the longest living president celebrates his 99th. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ good morning. welcome to "face the nation." congress has done it once again. they've kicked the can down the road passing a 45-day funding bill to keep the government running. the deadline for getting spending bills passed is november 17th. joining us this morning, the speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy. good morning. you've had a heck of a week. >> yeah. >> there is a lot to get to with you. i want to start, though, on the
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news from congressman matt gaetz who says he's going to seek a motion to vacate, try to oust you as speaker of the house. >> that's nothing new. he's tried to do that from the moment i ran for office. >> this time he says he's going to get there. may not get there before the 15th ballot but took 15 for you. can you survive? >> i've survive. this is personal with matt. matt voted against the most conservative ability to protect our border, secure our border. he's more interested in securing tv interviews than doing something. he wanted to push us into a shutdown, even threatening his own district with all the military people there who would not be paid, only because he wants to take this motion. bring it on, let's get over with it and let's start governing. if he's upset because he tried to push us in a shutdown and i made sure government didn't shutdown let's have the fight. >> you need 218 votes to vacate.
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has hakeem jeffries the democratic leader said he would -- >> no. >> he hasn't said anything about what develop. democrats could cross over and follow gaetz' lead on this. >> gaetz is trying to work with democrats, reached out to swalwell and aoc and others. if that's the way we're going to govern i don't think america will be successful. think of everything we've been able to accomplish so far. parents bill of rights. we passed the most conservative bill to protect our border, make america independent, cut $2 trillion, get work requirements back in. the hard part is the senate has not passed one appropriation bill. each body is supposed to pass 12. we've passed more than 70% of the discretionary spending already. >> there's no chance of surviving the senate and making it into long. >> we said the same thing when we stopped d.c. from decriminalizing everything. when we said we're going to
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stop -- >> i don't think i talked about those things. >> why pass it because the senate won't sign it. most of it in the press probably thought we would have shut down yesterday too. >> were you confident we wouldn't shut down? >> i was confident i could get something on the floor to make sure the option we would not. our military -- >> that would pass? >> i wasn't sure it was going to pass. want to know why? the democrats tried to do everything they can not to let it pass. they did -- >> democrats were the ones who voted for this did. >> did you watch? >> the republicans to keep the continuing resolution alive. >> did you watch the floor yesterday? >> oh, yes. 90 republicans voted against it. >> so let's walk through what actually happened. first of all, the dmemocrats stood up and did dilatory actions asked to adjourn. they went as far as pulling the fire alarm not to try to get the bill to come up. look, democrats stick together but they did not want the bill. they did not -- they were willing to let government shut
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down for our military not to be paid. no, i wasn't. we're going to make sure we keep it open while we finish the job we're supposed do. >> you have 45 days. >> that's right. >> technically 47, but -- >> okay. senator cornyn said of you last night you pulled a rabbit out of the hat a couple times. he's acknowledging this was tough. are we going to be staring down another shutdown? >> it comes to the senate. the senate hasn't done one thing. >> in the house are we going to be facing another shutdown november 17th? >> no. the house is doing the work. we've done 70 ps of it. the senate hasn't passed one bill. the senate didn't pass anything about the shutdown. the senate hasn't passed anything about securing the border. the senate hasn't passed anything -- >> the house hasn't passed anything about the border that could become law. >> that's your opinion. the house is its own body. the senate is its own body. we're not going to surrender to the senate. we pass what the american people want. each and every day -- don't take my word for it. you're going to have the
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governor of new york on it who told people to go somewhere else. the new york city mayor literally says it's destroying a city. let me answer your question since you said we wouldn't do something. do you know the governor of massachusetts has declared a state of emergency. this is one of the number one crises as far as you can see. this is killing americans every single day. >> there was no border funding in the continuing resolution that passed last night. >> that's not fair to just say that. let's understand -- -- >> there wasn't. let's educate the viewers why there wasn't. the day before, there was. but matt gaetz and others denied that and vote nod. we could have had border security. i went all the way through everything we could to the last moment. we're going to be able to win that. >> when will you be able to bring a vote on ukraine aid? the white house says you have -- are going to do this? >> the prior ity for me is america and our borders. i support being able to make sure ukraine has the weapons that they need, but i thoroughly
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support the border first. we have to find way to do this together. >> what do you mean the border first? the white house briefed congress that 45 days, they don't have enough money allowable to them to get through it. >> they have more than $3 billion right now to be able to help them get through it. if they have some challenge, we can sit down and we can talk about that. but the american border matters and more people -- >> of course. >> more americans are dying on our border than americans are dying in ukraine. >> you are explicitly right now linking any ukraine aid vote to a border bill? it won't be stand-alone ukraine bill? >> aefl telling you the american border matters and that is our priority to make sure we secure that. >> that has to move first? >> i will make sure the weapons are provided for ukraine but they're not going to get a big package if the border is not secure. >> you haven't figured out the vehicle to move the ukraine aid or date to do it? >> we will work with people in need. the one thing the white house
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has to understand, they better be prepared to secure american borders. >> what does that mean? what are you looking for there? >> the bill you think won't go anywhere could do it, hr 2. he remain in mexico, finish the wall, change asylum to secure this border. >> that is the bill? the border bill that you want passed? >> yes. not want. not that i -- not that i want it passed. it is passed and the senate has done nothing. let's see where the senate -- >> you wanted border first. not talking about holding a new vote in the house on the border? i'm trying to clarify. >> how it works is the house passes a bill, the senate passes a bill and you go to conference. the house has done their job and done this. the senate has done nothing. what i am saying is, when you saw government funding, there is a need for ukraine. i support being able to provide the weapons to ukraine, but america comes first. >> okay. you're not sequencing the bills or weren't meaning to suggest
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that in your comments earlier? >> yes. >> want to make sure i understood that. how much harder did your job get when donald trump came out and said that republicans should shut down if they don't get everything they need? well -- >> are you going to endorse him >> i think president trump is going to be our nominee and president trump is going win because president trump's policies made america stronger. we didn't have inflation. we had a secure border. we didn't -- we didn't have $100 barrel oil. so what i totally find is the president is going to be our nominee, the president is going to win re-election, president trump, for the basis we want to make america stronger. the other thing look what's happening on foreign policy today. you've got five american embassies that had to be evacuated. you've got this new axis of power growing against. a challenge when our own alleys are turning towards china. it's a lack of leadership not just in foreig policy within our border and everywhere else. this president has been in
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elected office for 50 years. do you know he has spent more dinners with hunter biden's business associates than he has visiting the border. don't you think that's important? one time. in 50 years. do you know how many people will die from fentanyl coming across >> it's a scourge. >> it's the equivalent of an airliner crashing every single day in america and they refuse to even visit it or do something ability it. so we are going to make sure this border becomes secure. >> we will watch for what that means legislatively. speaker, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> for your time today. the rainfall in new york these past few days shattered records, with the most rain ever recorded in one day in some places. once unimaginable, these kinds of scenes are becoming more common, and the need for disaster aid more urgent. new york governor kathy hochul joins us from albany. good morning, governor. >> good morning. >> you called this life
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threatening rainfall event. the subways were shut, part of laguardia airport shut down due to flooding. i mean, this is stunning. do you have an assessment of the level of damage? >> well, that's exactly what we're doing right now, margaret, is asking the local counties and the boroughs that were affected to add up the amount of money. it has to hit a certain threshold to be eligible for fema reimbursement. that's another topic about how with these all too frequent, 100-year storms and indeed we had a 1,000-year storm event just a couple months ago, we need to reassess how we reimburse states and homeowners after these cataclysmic weather events. we're doing the assessment that will take place over the next couple weeks. we got through the worst, but in my position having issued nine weather-related emergency declaration when i've been governor, we have to be ready in case this happens a week from now. that's the world we're in.
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>> last night congress did reauthorize the national flood insurance program. that was in question for a bit. what federal aid are you expecting to need here? >> well, we need help to help build up our resiliency, help the business owners that had to shut down, help reimburse localities for the overtime and the extra resources they had to expend with emergency teams on the ground. we had 28 rescues from our swift water rescue teams and all that should be reimbursable from the federal government. we have our list. but again, for the republicans in congress to even toy with the fact and hold over our heads there plight not be flood insurance or disaster assistance until the final hour, that's unconscionable and tone deaf to what state likes new york and many others are going through in this new era of climate change where the unknown is becoming the norm here. >> but given this concern about fiscal spending, i do want to ask you, nasa had a report out a
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few days ago saying parts of new york city are sinking from both human and natural factors, and that can impact flooding risk. rebuild a whole lot of infrastructure and tax papers did pump in billions to that national effort. is there enough in the federal infrastructure plans to do what you need to do? >>. >> well, we're not the only vulnerable part of our country. look at low-lying areas of florida and other states pummeled with hurricanes so no, all of our states will need some level of greater assistance. for, again, congress to even question whether they'll do the basics for us and hold us hostage wondering if we'll be able to get the essential relief for our homeowners and businesses is just wrong. yes, we need a full assessment of communities like new york city. one of our challenges in new york city and why the flooding is so, you know, so devastating
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and floods into our subways and homes, is that the new york city sewer system was built over 100 years ago with the capacity of one and three quarters inches per hour. we shattered that record a couple days ago and we had double that. the volume of water needs a nice go, so we need massive infrastructure dollars and i think president biden for helping send money to states like new york to build up that resiliency. it's going to be a long process. in the meantime we're always having to prepare for the next disaster. >> stunning that a trillion dollars is not -- is not sufficient nationally. i want to ask you about the other crises you've been raising alarms about and that is the strain due to migrants. there were no border provisions in this congressional bill that just passed and you've said you've had to manage without help from washington. what would you ask congress to get done in the next 45 days? >> well, shame on speaker mccarthy and the republicans in
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congress, including the nine from new york state who are complaining like crazy about the migrants, but refuse to work with president biden and come up with a sensible border strategy. it can be done. this can be done in a bipartisan way. comprehensive immigration reform sdploo -- >> what do you want? >> we want them to have a limit on who can come across the border. it is too open right now. people coming from all over the world are finding that i way through simply saying they need asylum and the majority of them seem to be ending up in the streets of new york and that is a problem for new york city. 125,000 newly arrived individuals. we are being taxed. we are always proud of the fact that new york has the statute of liberty in our harbor. we are one of the most diverse places on earth because of our welcoming nature and it's in our nature to welcome immigrants but there has to be limits in place
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and congress has to put more controls at the border. not in this budget threat shutdown threat. talk about eliminating positions for border patrol when we need to double or quadruple those numbers. get back to work and do your jobs. >> governor, good luck. "face the nanation" willll be b in one minute. stay with us. ican infrastructure, a prprime targetet for cyberattacks. but t the same ai-p-powered sececurity that p protects all of googlge alsoso defends t these servivs fofor everyonene who lilives here.. ♪♪
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. we're back with south carolina republican senator lindsey graham. good to have you here in person. >> good morning. >> senator, you voted for a short-term deal that doesn't include a cent for ukraine nor for the u.s. border. >> right. >> how did you swallow that? >> we had to keep the government open. we got 45 days to fix both problems. i listened to kevin closely. there will come out of the senate soon a bill that will have three legs to it. disaster funding. we need more, not less. robust funding for ukraine to get them through the next fighting season. not $24 billion. and a major effort to secure our
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border. i believe there's bipartisan support in the senate to do both, and it will go to the house hopefully in the next 30 days. >> what the speaker was talking about was a bill, hr 2, regarding the border that senate democrats will never get on board with. >> we have to fix the asylum. we need border security agent increases. we need more detention beds. i think there's democratic support for major border security reform. we have to attach it to ukraine. to those who say we need to fix our border, you're right. to those who say we need to help ukraine, you're right. to those who say we need to do the border and not ukraine, you're wrong. the vast majority of senate republicans would support ukraine funding, border security and disaster aid. >> when it comes to the house. >> yes. >> and the idea that we have to move swiftly. >> right. >> the white house told republican leadership that they don't have enough funding for ukraine to make it through 45
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days and the authorities they have are insufficient. >> well -- >> how much time are you talking about needing? >> i've been around while i'm wearing a pin do you think i would leave ukraine. i don't believe that. this same white house says we don't need f-16s, we don't need himars or tanks. i lost confidence in their evaluation of ukraine. we have allies. they can help for six weeks. the allies have spent more money in ukraine than we have and when you hear otherwise it's not true. i'm not worried about the next six weeks. i'm worried about next year. we will produce in the united states senate, 60 or $07 billion, not 24, to get them through next year. we will have a border security measure that is strong and we will have additional disaster aid because the nation needs it. w we are going to do those three things. i'm hoping our house colleagues will react to it. i think kevin is the right guy at the right time. the only way he loses his job is
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if a handful of republicans join up with the democratic party to fire him. that would be a disaster for the future of the republican party. that's not going to happen. kevin has the overwhelming confidence of his membership.% he worked to avoid a shutdown. he will help ukraine, but he's telling everybody in the country, including me, you better send something over for the border for me to help ukraine and he's right to make that demand. >> understand. you're talking about to be clear a supplemental bigger than $24 billion for ukraine. >> a lot bigger. >> that will pass in 45 days. >> absolutely. >> okay. >> because we need it. we haven't lost one soldier in ukraine. we spent less than 5% of our military budget. 50% of the russian army has been destroyed by the ukrainians. they would be at crimea already if the administration hadn't been so slow in giving weapons. >> we dedicate a lot of time to ukraine on this program and find it important, but i want to ask you, leader mcconnell had gone into the lunch yesterday telling senate leaders, that he believed
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the white house when they said they were running out of funding for ukraine and his deputies apparently urged him to drop it which is how you ended up with the bill with nothing in it for ukraine. is he in control of the caucus? >> senator mcconnell has been great in ukraine but he picked a formula to lose votes for ukraine. to expect people like me and others to vote for ukraine aid without border security is unreasonable. mitch made a miscalculation. he's been great on ukraine. i told him a thousand times the key to ukraine funding is to deal with a broken border. 107,000 americans have died from fentanyl poisoning from fentanyl coming across the southern border. we haven't lost one soldier in ukraine. so america is being invaded from a broken southern border. to my democratic colleagues, you need to take border security seriously. >> yeah. >> are you saying that ukraine should not be a standalone? >> it will not be a standalone. when i go to south carolina, i openly talk about helping
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ukraine. if you let putin get away with this you have a bigger war. what about our border? i promised people in south carolina i'm going to do two things. help secure our border and keep the fight going in ukraine to make sure that putin doesn't get away with this. >> have you asked donald trump your friend to come out and publicly support more aid to ukraine and push some of the skeptical members of the republican conference? >> i will leave it up to him what to do. he wanted to get out of afghanistan. >> vladimir putin has been praising him -- >> here what's i say about president trump. he did not pull the plug on afghanistan even though he wanted to. the biggest mistake we made in the war in terror is withdrawing from afghanistan. to president trump and anybody else if we pull the plug on ukraine that's ten times worse than afghanistan. there goes taiwan. to stop funding ukraine is a death sentence for taiwan. putin will keep going. you missed all of world war ii if you don't know how the movie ends. to the republicans that say ukraine doesn't matter to us you're wrong.
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