welcome back to "face the nation." let's continue our conversation now with south carolina congresswoman nancy mace. we were talking about the two candidates for speaker who have put themselves forward.

you voted to certify the 2020 election. steve scalise did not by cbs standards that makes him an election denier. is that disqualifying for you? >> with both of the candidates there are going to be issues that we agree and disagree on. >> that's a pretty big one. >> well with any speaker. i will tell you today, i am going to be supporting jim jordan for speaker for a number of reasons. i think that his values, his work ethic, his ability to just run circles around everyone with regards to policy and pushing forward, we've been one of the least productive congresses inside of 30 years, and he's going to be a workhorse for our country. i'm looking forward to rolling up our sleeves this week, no matter how this shakes out, and working hard for the american people because we've got to stand up for the people, we've got to put the american people first and move this country forward and do it in a positive way. >> let me ask you about jim jordan. former congresswoman liz cheney,

one of the lead investigators on the january 6th committee warned republicans against making him speaker of the house. listen. >> jim jordan knew more about what donald trump had planned for january 6th than any other member of the house of representatives, and if the republicans decide that jim jordan should be the speaker of the house, there would no longer be any possible way to argue that a group of elected republicans could be counteden to defend the constitution. >> that is a chilling statement. does it give you any pause? >> well, again, there are going to be all sorts of issues we agree and disagree on, and also in terms of january 6th, the electoral college, et cetera. i was one of the most vocal members of our party that day, and it the days and weeks beyond that. i got primaried because of my

vote to certify, because i spoke out, and so, you know, we have to look forward and unite and come together, regardless of what has happened in the past. we have to be forward thinking and look to the future to bring the party together, bring the people together and let the aerican people know that we care and we're going to work and fight hard for them. >> i know you've been outspoken about defending victims of sexual assault. do the past allegations of jim jordan that he turned a blind eye to sexual abuse give you reservations? >> >> i'm not familiar or aware of that. he's not indicted on anything i'm aware of. i don't knowing that and can't speak to that. >> ohio state university allegations. >> a very -- i don't know anything and i don't know anything about that. what i know is i've been a strong voice for women and talked to jim jordan and steve scalise about that and been a strong advocate for rape victims. as you mentioned earlier the

judiciary committee with him as chairman recently passed a rape kit bill barbara lee and i are workingp on. those are the facts and data i have to work with and had a positive experience with him in that regard. >> you mentioned among the things y wanted promises on from mccarthy, the ethics committee you said was a priority for you. matt gaetz, on this program you called him a fraud. mccarthy said his ouster is personal payback from gaetz for the house ethics committee investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct on -- that gaetz is accused of carrying out. does that bother you? >> well, again, he's not indicted for anything. i don't really -- i don't know much about it. >> it's an ethics committee. >> i have had my ups and downs, and i'm not on the ethics committee and i don't know what they have. i haven't seen it. but i've had my ups and downs with a lot of members in congress because as an

independent voice i will call the balls and strikes, regardless of the consequences, regardless of the backlash. i think that's very apparent after the last five days or so. but again, nothing has come out of the ethics committee. i also heard in the last couple days in terms of the retribution against matt gaetz they were going to pull something out of ethics committee to get him back. i'm threatened to thrown off of my committees, thrown out of the conference, they're threatening to take my gavel away on oversight. >> by who? >> fellow members. there was a letter signed on friday. i want to use this as an opportunity to say, i'm willing to work with anyone who is willing to work with me. we want to move our country forward and unite during the speaker debate and the vote this week. >> nancy mace, thank you for your time today. we'll be right back. this is american infrastructure, a prime e target for cyberattacksks. but the e same ai-powered security that protects all of google also defends thesese servics for eveveryone who lives here. ♪ i am in love with mixtiles.

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his city cannot handle more migrants, and he needs help from the federal government. mayor adams joins us from new york. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning. if i can, i would like to start, i just want to -- landed this morning, and i am pained over the horrific attacks in israel. my heart goes out to the israeli people. we have the largest jewish population, outside of tel aviv, in the city and it's really horrifying to look at some of the images, and again i'm lifting them up in my prayers this morning as well as other new yorkers. >> i saw your governor condemned a protest that is supposed to be held in times square. that's described as in support of the perpetrators of the attack. is that going to take place and security wise, are you concerned? >> i was briefed this morning with the elected officials and i communicated while i was abroad with my police leaders to make

sure that we will monitor the protests here in the city. one has the right to protest, even if i strongly disagree with any form of celebrating such a horrific incident like this. but we are going to monitor to make sure that people do it in peaceful way. they're going to be i'm sure pro-israel organizers as well and we're going to make sure that people abide by the law. >> i want to ask you about this trip you just took throughout central americap and you went to the dairien gap, the transit point between north and south america. why did you make this visit, and what did you learn? >> it was extremely important. this is my style of governing. people know i go to the crime scenes when victims of police violence, when there's a horrific fire on the ground.

we cannot stay in sterilized environments of our executive chambers while there are real things on the ground. ground zero was taking place in this region and this hemisphere, what's happening in colombia, ecuador and mexico, and i needed to see firsthand of why are we seeing the flow and speak with the leaders there to see exactly what was taking place. it was an eye opener to learn over 21% of those who are going through the gap, they are children. this is a children crisis we are facing and i wanted to communicate with the local cbos, elected lipps there and the local citizens and residents to learn from them, but to send a clear message on their media, new york is out of room. we need to communicate that. >> you've said this will destroy new york city. we had your governor on last sunday and she said the border is too open. she called for a change to

asylum laws. is that something you're calling for to? >> yes. i want to thank the governor because we see what's happening to this city and when you look at the flow, think about this for a moment, 375,000 migrants asylum seekers went through the dairien gap this year. that's 100,000 more than last year, 200,000 more than 2021. just this -- the first -- the last week of september, we had over 3700 asylum seekers that came to new york city. that's an increase. we're getting 600 a week, which was unsustainable. and now we're up to getting anywhere from almost 800 a week. these numbers are not sustainable and it's not sustainable in chicago, where people are living in police precincts, los angeles, houston,

washington, this is just not right what is taking place. >> you are asking the courts in new york to suspend right to shelter rule, which requires emergency housing to be provided. what's your plan to prevent that from contributing to more homelessness? >> well, our legal team is not asking for a suspension. we want clarification. this is a humanitarian crisis that we are facing. this is not what the architects of the right to shelter thought about when dealing with those new yorkers who needed shelter. we can't have a rule that one can come from anywhere on the globe and come to new york city and remain in new york city as longs as they want and taxpayers must pick up the cost. this is a $5 billion price tag this fiscal year, $12 billion over three years. that money is coming from somewhere. it's unfair to the migrant seekers and asylum seekers and unfair to everyday taxpayers and new yorkers. we want clarification coming

from the courts. >> you had called on the biden administration to grant temporary protection which they did to some venezuelans so they could work, get out of the shelters, and there are a large number of venezuelan migrants i know in the city. the governor of illinois says that many of these people can't even afford to apply and they need the federal government to waive fees. has the biden administration understood the problem that it says it's trying to solve? what do they need to do? >> you know, one of the most troubling aspects of this conversation is people regulated this to mayor adams and the president's conversation. we need to really wake up. this is a global crisis of movements of human beings for several different reasons, based on which country you're looking at. we need to reexamine not only our long-term immigration policies, but how do we allow people on a pathway of being

self-sustaining. the only reason we are who we are as a country is because people had the right to work. i keep saying that's the precursor to sleep that allows you to experience the american dream. not being able to be self-sustaining, pay to the tax base, of all groups, not only just the venezuelans, the rule and policy does put in place would impact 15 to 17,000 in that area, but we have people coming from west africa, south america, central america, china, all over the globe is coming to this hemisphere and we need to be prepared with the right policies to get this done correctly. >> and we're going to continue this conversation m mayor, with our next guest. thank you for giving us your view. the democratic governor of illinois j.b. pritzker has many us this morning from chicago. governor, thank you for joining us. we should say in order to do many of the things you and the mayor are asking for, we need a congress to legislate and to

legislate you need a speaker of the house and we are stuck. so, at the moment, i want to understand what it is you're asking president biden to do? you had a pretty sharply worded letter this past week. talking about the federal government's lack of intervention and coordination, creating an untenable situation in illinois. did the white house respond? have they fixed your problem? >> thanks and good morning, margaret. let me begin by sending our condolences and our hearts are with the people of israel at this moment. the families of those who died and also the people who have been kidnapped and taken hostage by these terrorists. the united states stands with israel and so does the state of illinois. and so do i personally. let me answer your question by saying that, you know, we were very clear in our communication with the white house that what we need is logistical support,

that is, help deciding where these folks ought to go, because they can't all go to chicago and new york and d.c. they need to go in places where there's even more help to offer. we, of course, are welcoming state and have been caring for the people who arrived, but we can't bear the burden only. >> who can? where do they go? >> let me also say the white house has been told, you know, we need resources and you talk about the congress being in chaos, the house of representatives is opposed to any kind of comprehensive immigration reform. it seems like now is the moment to talk about border security and immigration reform. we want immigrants in the united states, we also want border security. it seems like there's a compromise there. > okay. >> that can occur. >> yes. >> but look, there are lots of places in the country where there are ngos that can be of assistance to these folks who have arrived, they're here

legally they have refuge in the united states for a moment. my family were refugees to this country too. we ought to welcome them, put them through a process. if they don't meet the requirements they should be sent back. >> right. >> that's what the president is beginning to do now. >> beginning to do with that announcement that venezuela will now accept some deportations. but, on that -- on that point, you were pretty descriptive in your letter. you need a single office with an identified leader. told the president take a more active role. you recommend he put one person in charge who works directly for him. this sounds like a management 101. how did that go over? >> well, they heard me. you know, there are so many departments that are responsible for helping to care for these asylum seekers as well as acknowledging them as they cross the border. i hope that they will put one office together. i know the white house right now is coordinating it.

they need one office and one person at the head of that office that we can call that we can work with, to coordinate. look, we're providing shelter as best we can and providing for the needs of these folks arriving in chicago. and as i say, we're a welcoming state and we understand the humanitarian crisis that we're addressing. but we can't address this all by ourselves. we need help from the white house. one example of this is this communication that i think needs to occur with data so that we can understand who is arriving and when they're arriving and whether they have relatives already in the united states who might be able to help care for them. none of that is being done at the border. that's where it ought to be done. folks shouldn't -- should be told that it's going to get cold in chicago and new york very soon. and there are lots of other places in the country they may want to consider going and the white house and the federal government should be facilitating that. >> i appreciate your focus on the human element here. i want to ask you about the

political. the democratic convention is in chicago next year. are you confident your city and state will have a better grasp on it by this time? >> i am confident that we can handle it, but again, it will require help from the federal government and someon needs to work in texas with these border politicians to have them stop sending people only to blue cities and blue states. and the president of the united states and the white house has the ability to help disperse folks across the country. that will help a lot. we are managing in the city of chicago and the state of illinois as best we can in these circumstances, but not if just those few politicians in texas are taking responsibility for this. it needs to be a federal, national problem that gets handled at the national sflleve. thank you for your time this morning. >> thanks, margaret.

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on friday, we spoke with republican senator and presidential candidate tim scott from his home state of south carolina. our conversation began on the economy and the surprisingly

robust september jobs report. >> friday's jobs number shattered expectations and showed some economic momentum. in fact, restaurant hospitality hiring back to prepandemic levels. that seems to undercut your argument that economy is broken. >> all you have to do is talk to the average american family and ask them how they feel about biden nom micks. we've lost over $5,000 of spending power since january of 2021. we should always celebrate the creation of jobs but never forget we went 55 consecutive paychecks, 52 consecutive paychecks, with a loss of spending power. >> and you blame political leadership not the federal reserve? >> if you think about the fact that over the last i guess year and a half, we've seen 16% of inflation sdince joe biden has taken off, 11 rate increases at downward pressure on our economy, created cracks throughout the economy. that was caused by joe biden's

lack of leadership and understanding of how to create jobs in america. >> i want to bring up something specific about your economic plan because "the wall street journal" editorial board which is conservative leaning did praise many parts of it but zeroed in on your promise to offer the child tax credit to prek women. criticizing it saying that is social policy masquerading as economics. why are they and other republicans wrong? >> well, here's the question. do we want to find a way to encourage life in this country? i think the answer is yes. creating a culture that benefits a single mother like the one that raised me when she gets pregnant why not extend the child tax credit to when the mother understand she's pregnant. give her that benefit. every single thing we do that encourages family and encourages mothers to continue forward i think is a good thing. as a matter of fact, if you look at the tax code of our country, the one thing since the 1930s that we've seen in our tax code

is having the tax code create the kind of america that we want. i'll never back down from helping single mothers like the one that raised me and mothers overall be in a better position to take care of their families. >> how confident are you congress is going to avoid a shutdown next month? >> we have until november 17th to figure that out. i will say without any question the road to socialism runs right through a divided republican party. when you have 221 members of the party in the house you need 218 to choose a speaker, one of the things they should do is go behind closed doors, let's figure this out in advance. >> do you have a speaker of the house in mind? >> i don't. one of the things i've noticed about those of us outside of the house, the last thing we need are more voices in the house. you understand this as well as anybody else, there are multiple factions in the house, the last thing we need are more voices on the outside weighing in on the house of representatives. >> it sounds like you disagree with donald trump on his decision to wade into that.

you know one of the sticking points d. >> i do. >> one of the sticking points is aid to ukraine you have said is vital to u.s. interest rates. how do you persuade reluctant republicans to sign on? >> one of the things that we saw in the last aid package that was missing was only $4 billion to finish the construction of the wall, $5 billion to use the available military-grade technology to surveil our border, to stop 70,000 americans from losing their lives in the next 12 months because we saw that in the last 12 months. if you were to be able to, so to speak, walk and chew gum at the same time, if you solved our national security issue on our southern border, in addition to aid to ukraine, you would have the kind of package that most americans, frankly, most members of both houses, would sign off on. >> this week, the venezuelan government announced that they have agreed to accept back into their country some of the

migrants who crossed unlawfully into the united states. hadn't been happening for some time. do you support that biden administration diplomatic initiative? >> there's to doubt that when the biden administration decided to give work permits to those venezuelan, you would only expect for an acceleration of more venezuelans coming to our country. frankly illegally. to see the biden administration find common sense is a good thing. i wish they would have found it in january of 2021. >> tim scott, senator, thank you for your time today. >> yes, ma'am. >> we'll be right back. table ad. (gasp) yoyou need weaeathertech.. [hotot dog splatat.] laser r measured floorlinerers front anand re. [d[drink slurprp and splata] (scream) seat p protector to save ththe seats. [honk!k!] they're e all yours!s! wewe're here!! hey, i knenew you werere comi. so i weaeathertecheded the ! can wewe get ice c cream? we can n now.

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