abbas. i'm margaret brennan in washington. today on "face the nation" -- israel says an invasion of gaza is imminent. palestinians say the humanitarian crisis is dire with more than a million gazans trapped there. and the key question, will the

conflict spread to other countries in the middle east? promising an invasion by land, sea, and air, israeli forces made last-minute preparations to destroy naums retaliation for last week's brutal massacre of hundreds of israelis in a surprise attack. there are more than a million palestinians, plus foreign nationals and american citizens, trapped in gaza. israeli missiles have decimating the densely populated region all week. evacuation efforts are still under way but time is running out. president biden has made it clear -- >> the united states make no mistake about it, stands with israel. the united states stands with israel. >> around the country and the world, palestinian sympathiers are urging support for their cause and security has been ramped up with the increased threats sparked by hamas. all the news plus analysis just ahead on "face the nation."

♪ good morning. welcome to "face the nation." as we come on the air, israel is on the brink of an expanded war that could have enormous repercussions. the humanitarian situation in gaza is grim and likely to worsen, as thousands attempt to flee before the ground offensive starts. the united nations warned yesterday that it would be impossible for such a rapid exodus of civilians without devastating humanitarian consequences. secretary of state antony blinken is in the region shuttling between middle east countries to negotiate opening a crossing from gaza into egypt to get civilians out. tomorrow, he plans to return to tel aviv for additional meetings with prime minister netanyahu. we begin our coverage from israel with cbs news foreign

correspondent charlie d'agata. we want to caution viewers some of the content is quite distressing. >> reporter: israeli artillery and air strikes have pounded gaza in one of the most intense, sustained bombardments the narrow strip of land has ever seen. authorities in gaza say more than 2300 people have ben killed, a quarter of them children. hundreds of thousands of people have been heeding warnings from the israeli military in leaflets dropped from the sky, to evacuate from north to south. the u.n. says nearly 1 million people have been displaced, nearly half the territory's population. with thousands crowding the rafah crossing with egypt where cbs news found american susan. >> the bombing, the killing, terrorizing kids and women, killing everybody.

>> reporter: also among those trying to escape, british school girl miriam. >> every place i go, i runaway. i just find bombs. i hide. like maybe one day i'll end up like them. it's a really scary thing for me. >> reporter: even under fire, hamas continues to launch missiles into israel. and sporadic fighting broke out on a second front. after the militant group hezbollah fired rockets into israel from lebanon. here to gaza, israeli troops and armor are massing for an expected ground invasion on an unprecedented scale. the ka far afar kibbutz where gunmen went on a rampage against families and children has become an israeli front line. burnt out vehicles and destroyed homes the corpses of hamas gunmen left to rot where he they

fell. drones buzzed overhead, explosions rang out as colonel golan walked us through the bloody aftermath and blackened homes. >> you can still see the beast here in this bed. >> two women were lying. >> reporter: murdered inside the safe room that was supposed to protect them. >> she was sitting here and shot everyone that stepped outside. >> reporter: the israelis call this the neighborhood of slaughter. nearly every single resident was killed here. 66 people on the street alone. >> a lot of children? >> a lot of children. some of them, some of the children tried to hide behind thushes and they found them and they slaughtered them and they were happy. >> reporter: amid the sadness a growing anger, why weren't communities so close to gaza better protected and why did it take israeli forces hours to respond?

>> we failed. period. we failed protecting the civilians. its shouldn't have happened, not like this, never. not on this scale. >> reporter: israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu convened the country's expanded emergency cabinet for the first time today saying hamas thought we would be demolished, but it is we who will demolish hamas. margaret? >> that's charlie d'agata in tel aviv. we go to imtiaz tyab who interviewed the political spokesman for hamas yesterday. >> well, margaret, as you can imagine this was a challenging and often combative interview with dr. hamed, a spokesman for hamas and senior member of its political bureau. dr. hamed denied it received outside support including from iran which contradicts statements earlier to the bbc

that it did. did you receive support from outside? >> no. >> did you receive support from iran. >> no. this was taken by hamas only. >> you received no support from any other country outside of gaza? >> no, no, no, never. >> he denied hamas fighters targeted civilians saying their target was only the israeli military and israeli military infrastructure, something we challenged him on given the vast amount of video evidence of hamas fighters shooting at civilians in civilian areas. now, as for why hamas carried out such a brazen and brutal attack inside israel, dr. hamed blames successive israeli governments for refusing to end the decades long o o territories israel's current government described as extreme far right has pursued an agenda of harsh and impugnenitive members against palestinians which is why he said hamas carried out the devastating attack, an

attack that has resulted in gaza being bombed like never before and a death toll that already exceeds the four previous wars, something he blames squarely on israel, but he would not take any responsibility for the hamas attack being the trigger for this extraordinary violence. now when questioned about the dozens of hostages abducted by hamas fighters and still being held captive inside gaza, including some americans, here's what he said. >> why don't you just release the people who were abducted? >> okay. we want first of all, daily killing in gaza, it is our priority now. your priority should be to stop killing and this is genocide in gaza. it is the israeli genocide in gaza. even international red cross, all the international organization, all of them say the situation in gaza is catastrophe and big disaster.

we have to stop this. maybe after that we can talk about anything. >> thank you. imtiaz tyab in jerusalem. our scott pelley spoke with president biden late last week for "60 minutes" about the israel crisis. here's a preview. >> are the wars in israel and ukraine more than the united states can take on at the same time? >> no. we're the united states of america, for god's sake. the most powerful nation in the history -- not in the world, in the history of the world, the history of the world. we can take care of both of these and still maintain our overall international defense. we have the capacity to do this, and we have an obligation to. we are the essential nation, to paraphrase the former secretary of state. if we don't, who does? >> now you can see more of scott's interview with the president tonight on "60 minutes" at 7:00 p.m. eastern. we go now to white house national security adviser jake

sullivan. jake, i want to get straight to it. this is going to be very brutal urban warfare when israel moves in to gaza. how much time do you have to get the 500 to 600 americans trapped there out? >> well, margaret, we're in daily, indeed hourly contact with our counter parts in the israeli defense forces and security services, and we're talking to them about their plans for moving in on the ground in gaza. it's not for me to say what their timetable is. i think they will need to speak to that. but we are very focused on, first, as you said, making sure that all american citizens in gaza have safe passage out of gaza and into he egypt. we're working on that around the clock. we're not going to rest thuntil that happens. second, we're focused on making sure the broader population, that they can get to safe areas, that they can get access to food and water, medicine, shelter, and that they can be protected from the fighting as it

intensifies and as a potential ground operation moves forward. >> if anyone of those palestinian civilians are permitted to leave gaza does the united states have assurances from israel that they will eventually be allowed to return to their homes? will they just become refugees? >> the united states has a very simple proposition on this. when people leave their homes in conflict, leave their houses in conflict, they deserve the right to return to those homes, to those houses, and the is situation is no different. >> the united states deployed a second aircraft carrier to the eastern mediterranean. i'm wondering if you have new intelligence that shows that the threat from iran is growing? >> we don't have some specific new intelligence that the threat is different today from yesterday. the threat yesterday was real, the threat today is real. there is a risk of an escalation of this conflict, an opening of the second front in the north and iran's insprochlts that's a risk that we have been mindful

of since the start and why the president moved so rapidly and decisively to get an aircraft carrier into the eastern mediterranean, to get aircraft into the gulf because he wants to send a very clear message of deterrence to any state or any actor that would seek to exploit this situation. >> well, iran's foreign minister put out a public statement saying that iran cannot remain a spectator. what does that mean to you? are you concerned about proxy forces or are you concerned that state of iran is getting drawn in? >> first, we are concerned about proxy forces. lebanese hezbollah, a proxy force of iran, is there a raid on israel' northern border with considerable military capacity and a history of attacking the state of israel. in fact, we have seen in the last few days, skirmishes across that northern border that only enhances the risk of escalation. of course, we can't rule out that iran would choose to get directly engaged some way.

we have to prepare for every possible contingency. >> there is diplomatic outreach to iran right now? >> we have means of communicating privately with iran, and we've veiled ourselves of those means over the past few days to make clear privately that which we have said publicly. >> there are 2 million palestinians living there who as you said many of whom have absolutely nothing to do with hamas. so at this point are you expecting israeli military forces to occupy that area long term? who steps in and governs if hamas is routed out? >> these are important long-term questions to begin asking and grappling with today. we believe that israel is grappling with them. we are tog to them about them. it is critical as president biden said from the very beginning, that we, as fellow democracies, the u.s. and israel, that we embrace the rule of law and the laws of war and the united states will work with israel, the united nations, egypt, jordan, and other

countries, to do all that we can to ensure the protection of civilians and it those civilians have access to the basic necessities of food and water, of shelter, of medicine. that is a priority of ours. >> the targeting of that kind of basic infrastructure is potentially a war crime, is it not? >> there's a lot of fog of war. what we will say is the protection of civilians and the protection of those people trying to get to safety, as well as their ability to access food, water, medicine, shelter, these things should be respected and should very much be a central focus of everyone involved in this, including ourselves, the israelis, the united nations, and the regional countries. >> the palestinian authority a long time ago renounced violence. i saw president biden spoke to mahmoud abbas yesterday. is your expectation that the palestinian authority would potentially govern gaza? and how concerned are you that violence will spread in the west

bank? >> look, again, i think you're asking a very important question about the long-term in gaza. what i will say is this, gaza being governed by a brutal and vicious terrorist organization is not just a challenge for the state of israel, it's a challenge for the palestinian people. because hamas does not represent their highest aspirations. hamas is not looking out for or caring one iota about their welfare and well being. the palestinian people in gaza do deserve a leadership that allows them to live lives in peace and dignity and security. what that exactly looks like going forward, i'm not in a position to say today. it is the right question to be asking now as this unfolds because we have to think not just about the immediate term, but about the long term, too. >> this is not the only crisis you're dealing with. there's still a land war in europe. you said just a few days ago to congressional leaders that u.s. aid to ukraine was running

dangerously low. that as there's a renewed offensive. how close to crisis are we on that front? >> we can continue to sustain deliveries of critical ammunition for them to defend against that russian offensive and continue pressing forward in other areas of ukrainians. you're right, that russian offensive is under way, the russians are throwing a lot at the ukrainians in the northeast and east and we need to make sure that we continue rushing necessary military supplies to them. we're doing that. we need congress to act, and the president has made clear that he is going to go to congress with a package of funding for ukraine as well as continued support for israel. you can expect intensive engagement with congress this very week, as we work on such a package and seek to secure bipartisan support for it. >> and that's a $2 billion package that would bundle ukraine, israel, the border, support for taiwan, all together? >> well, the number is going to be significantly higher than that, but it will, as i said,

certainly include the necessary military equipment to defend freedom, sovereignty, and territorial integrity in ukraine, and to help israel defend itself as it fights its terrorist foes. >> jake sullivan, national security adviser to the president, thank you for your time today. >> thanks for having me. >> we'll be right back. so stay with us. megawatts of power, rails and open road, and essential services of every kind. all running on countless invisible networks, making it a prime target for cyberattacks. but the same ai-powered security that protects all of google also defends the systems running america's infrastructure. for these services. for the 336 million of us living here. ♪

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defend itself to the hit and that means the complete elimination of hamas, the eradication of their terrorist infrastructure. israel has put out warnings to civilians about where israel is going to conduct operations and has told civilians there to leave the area. hamas is telling those civilians to stay in the area, so they're using the civilians as human shields, so, of course, when you're in war you want to avoid that. if there are civilian casualties, that's the fault of hamas. that's not going to be the fault of israel. >> would you advise, for example, the israeli military to avoid attacking infrastructure to provide water and electricity as they have done? >> well, margaret, the hamas is holding people hostage still. you have israelis being held hostage as well as americans being held hostage -- >> i understand that. >> i don't think -- but i don't think they're under an obligation to be providing water and these utilities while the hostages are being held.

hamas should return those hostages before any discussions are had, and it's a disgrace what they're doing and israel has every right to use all the pressure that they can to get those people back. >> there are 2.3 million people living in gaza collective punishment is something you >> it's not collective punishment. hamas is the one that is creating this predicament. hamas is the one who always uses civilian targets to conduct operations and we dealt with this, some in iraq, where al qaeda and iraq would commandeer mosques. under normal circumstances you don't target a religious institution. if you have terrorist groups that are converting that to a base of operations you treat that as military targets. that's because hamas is making those decisions to convert that infrastructure into the use for terrorist purposes. >> is there any caution you would give to the israeli military? would you ask, for example, the prime minister to hold off until the 500 to 600 americans trapped

in gaza manage to get out? >> well, look, i think that that's something in terms of those that, of course, you would have discussions with. we would be willing to do if i was president, apply resources to be able to help any american who is either being captured or in harm's way. i would note, i as governor of florida v launched flights to bring americans home from the war zone now. we're going to have the first flights landing in florida today and bring hundreds of people back from israel to the state of florida and they've had trouble dealing with the federal government. so, of course, that's an important thing that you want to consider. >> right. but there are 5 thousand 600 americans stuck in gaza specifically. let me ask you a little bit more about that, because of the 2 million people who live in gaza, half of them are under the age of 18. let's take a listen to something you said yesterday. >> we cannot accept people from gaza into this country as

refugees. i'm not going to do that. if you look at how they behave, not all of them are hamas, but they are all anti-semitic. >> i'm sure you know all arabs are semites, but how can you paint with such a broad brush to say 2.3 million people are anti-semitic? >> well, first of all, my position is very clear, those gaza refugees, palestinian arabs should go to arab countries. the u.s. should not be absorbing any of those. i think the culture -- so they elected hamas. let's be clear about that. not everyone is a member of hamas. ost probably aren't, but they did elect hamas. if you look at their education system -- >> in 2006 the military occupation happened after that where they went in and haven't allowed elections since 2007. so in 2006 there was an election. >> there was a lot of celebrating of those attacks in the gaza strip by a lot of those folks who were not hamas. if you look at their education system, this has been an issue

for a long time. they teach kids to hate jews. the textbooks do not have israel even on the map. they prepare very young kids to commit terrorist attacks i think it's a toxic culture and i think if we were to import large numbers of those to the united states, i think it would increase anti-semitism in this country and it would increase anti-americanism in this country and that's something after seeing those demonstrations pop up in our country, just with blood still flowing amongst israeli citizens over the weekend, you had people taking to the streets cheering on the barbarism of hamas in our own country. that was a chilling thing to see, and i don't think that that's something that we should ever think is acceptable. >> no. but no one is talking about getting gazan refugees here right now. they can't get out of gaza at the moment. >> people have mentioned it. i think some of the far left have said this is something that we should do. the u.s. has done similar things in the past. so i just put my stake in the

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