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i truly believe we're going to do the same thing we did during our contract campaign, during our strike. you know, when we said endorsements will be earned we meant it and we're going to deal with facts and truth. i believe the overwhelming majority of uaw members and working class people when the facts and truth are put in front of them will support joe biden for president. that's why we made this decision. when you look at these two candidates, you know, joe biden has a history of serving others, and serving the working class and fighting for the working class, standing with the working class. donald trump has a history of serving himself and standing for the billionaire class and that's contrary to everything that working class people stand for. when you look at the issues during our contract campaign, retirement security, better wages, health care, wanting our time back, wanting our lives back, that's what mattersp that's why 75% of the american public stood with the uaw in our fight and i believe that's why a huge majority of our members and working class people will side
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with president joe biden in the upcoming election. >>well, it used to be people thought of unions as very much tied to the democratic party, but we saw the teamster's union president shawn o'brian meet with trump at mar-a-lago this month, having a roundtable with him this week. i know president biden has also been invited as well. do you anticipate that this other union will go a different direction and choose mr. trump? >> i can't phantom any union would support donald trump for president. let's be real and look at facts. you know, donald trump says -- look at both their careers. donald trump in his words when he had his reality tv show "the apprentice" and when he was president and in the white house he had two favorite words you're fired. and, you know, he cycled through white house staff like toilet paper. when he was -- in 2008 we were in a recession, donald trump blamed the workers for what was wrong with the big three. joe biden bet on the american worker.
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you go to 2015, donald trump talked about doing a rotation of our good paying jobs in the midwest somewhere where they pay less, driving a race to the bottom, wanting us to beg for our jobs back at lower pay. you know, he didn't support when lordstown assembly when he was president, lordstown was slated for closure he told people don't sell your houses. what did he do? nothing. when gm went on strike in 2019, what did he do to support the striking workers? what did he say in, not a word. joe biden in 2008 he stood with the uaw, he stood with working class people in that recession, and they gave us a pathway forward. you know, when he's been president he stood with us for the first time in history, u.s. sitting president stood on the picket line with us and helped save a community, not sit back and do nothing while a community was destroyed. >> you, i know, have had frustrations with the transition to electric vehicles. ford's ceo has said they will require 40% less labor to
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produce cars than combustion vehicles. is it difficult to convince your members that president biden's push to go electric won't ultimately put them out of a job? >> look, our union has a history going back -- i saw a statement, 54 years ago in 1970, uaw president woodcook was talking we need to get away from the internal combustible engine because it's poisoning the environment. the the uaw has been at the front of environmental and working class issues. the biggest thing to us, no matter which way we go in this, we're going to have security for our members and for the working class people. these have -- it has to be a just transition. that's what we've stood for. we were able to bargain, thanks again to help from the white house and from secretary of labor julie suh, we were able to bargain a contract where we put this work under our master agreements, under our standards, instead of driving a race to the bottom which is where it was when we found it. we're not afraid of where we're
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headed. naturally there's work that has to be done with the infrastructure and things like that. no matter where this heads, i know one presidential candidate that will be behind us joe biden and another one could care less about it and that's donald trump. >> you have to get voters excited to show up and vote in the first place. ford is headquartered in dearborn, michigan. a lot of arab american and muslim americans upset about what's happening in gaza. you have called for a cease-fire and joe biden has not. is this going to be difficult? are they underestimating in washington how painful this is for people in michigan? >> look, we've been very clear about our position. the uaw has a histor of standing up for peace. we've called for a cease-fire. we're going to continue to pressure and talk with the biden administration about this issue. i believe they'll do the right thing i mean let's be real here, the other candidate, we know where he stands on this issue and what he did with the embassy and stuff when he was president. again, there's two very stark
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contrasts between these two candidates and we're going to continue to push the biden administration to do the right thing. >> sir, thank you for your time today. we'll be right back. for possibilities, s you searcg discover a different first treatment. immunotherapies work with your immune system to attack cancer. but opdivo plus yervoy is the first combination of 2 immunotherapies for adults newly diagnosed with non-small cell lung cancer that has spread, tests positive for pd-l1, and does not have an abnormal egfr or alk gene. opdivo plus yervoy is not chemotherapy, it works differently. it helps your immune system fight cancer in 2 different ways. opdivo and yervoy can cause your immune system to harm healthy parts of your body during and after treatment. these problems can be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have a cough; chest pain; shortness of breath; irregular heartbeat; diarrhea; constipation; severe stomach pain; severe nausea or vomiting; dizziness; fainting; eye problems; extreme tiredness; changes in appetite, thirst or urine; rash; itching; confusion; memory problems; muscle pain or weakness; joint pain; flushing; or fever. these are not all the possible side effects.
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with allstate you're connected to a rate based on you. (♪♪) we turn now to the conflict in the middle east and the biden administration's efforts to prevent a regional war. white house envoy amos hochstein is with us working on a diplomatic accord between israel and lebanon and a top adviser to the president on energy. how concerned are you right now that we are about to see another front open up in this war? >> well, i think we should all be very concerned about another front. in fact, we have a -- somewhat of a front already. from the beginning of this conflict, the day after october 7th, october 8 there was shelling and action coming from lebanon towards israel and since then we've been in a low-grade fight between israel and
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lebanon. president biden has been clear we want to do everything we can to prevent an escalation of that lower-level conflict into an all-out conflict that would drag us further into war and risk civilian lives on both sides. >> hezbollah has been firing rockets, israel has been carrying out strikes into southern lebanon. you lad brokered a maritime border between israel and lebanon. how close are you to getting a land border negotiated here? >> so, just over a year ago we were able to negotiate a maritime boundary, really the first time israel and lebanon -- lebanon doesn't recognize israel diplomatically -- reechz any boundary agreement. what we need to do now is get to two things, one the cessation of hostilities across both sides, so almost 100,000 people on each side, lebanon and israel, are refugees in their own country because they can't live in southern lebanon or northern israel.
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we have to get to a cessation of hostilities. post-october 7th we have to make sure israelis and leb ba fleece can live in their homes with security. it requires a more intricate piece of the negotiations to ensure that the lebanese army is in that area, that there is more for security for civilians. we need to start looking at how do we mark the border, an actual border, between the two countries so that we can have long-term security and long-term peace in an area that's seen so many rounds of conflict over the last several years. >> and are you leaded back soon? >> i will likely head back soon, but i think this is something we do every day, not just in the region. we do this also when we're here. >> the israeli government said time is running short, the defense minister, said end of january. >> i don't know about had hard deadlines. >> okay. >> the window for diplomacy is there, and that is what president biden has said we have to try to solve this diplomatically. i don't deny the status quo of
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where we are now can last forever and that is why we need to make sure we can get through a diplomatic resolution. >> oil prices jumped friday, as you know. there was a tanker carrying russian oil going through the red sea that was hit by rockets fired by houthi militias and we can see here a lot of ships going through that area have had to take longer routes because of the conflict here. how are you gauging the geopolitical risk when it comes to energy prices going forward? >> i think we're in a remarkable situation where we have two global conflict, one the ongoing war of russia's war against ukraine and what's happening in the middle east and the houthis attacking the ships. so the first thing to remember, we are responding to the houthi attacks and this is not an attack on the united states or related to gaza. this is an attack on the global commercial system, global shipping lanes, not just the united states. that's why the reaction has not just been the u.s., it's
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u.s.-led, but this is a coalition and a coalition that's growing both the diplomatic coalition and the milcoalition. >> it's not stopping the attacks. >> let's take the example you gave the ship on friday. it was not an american ship, not destined for israel either. it's part of the global commercial system, aided by the u.s. navy, the french navy and the indian navy all vessels in the area. and saved the ship that was able to then move on safely and securely. the impact on the markets, i think that there is a -- clearly a sentiment issue where prices have gone up a little bit because of this, but the actual cost to energy commodities, cargo ships, yes, they have to go around a further distance, it's more logistics cost than an actual cost. the costs do go up, but if you look at what the impact, the inflationary impact relatively muted and we're going to continue work to mitigate and
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degrade the efforts the houthis have to attack, but also make sure that we can look at the global markets and make sure they're not affect snootsds "washington post" reported you opposed the decision to put limits on some liquified natural gas projects to conduct environmental -- first of all, is that true, and given that we haven't lng prices really move, how significant can this decision be? it looks very political >> so first, no, it is totally -- i don't know who is saying that i opposed it. i did not oppose it. i think this is the right decision. in the white house, in the department of energy and across the administration, there was full support for this decision. i was one of them. look, we have to look at this decision as -- for what it is. one, we are today the largest exporter of lng in the world. based on what's under construction, the united states will double our exports of lng, our capacity to export lng, over
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the next three or four years. we've already done an enormous amount. at some point you have to stop and say, all right, this is how much we're exporting. we now need to look what are the economic impacts. does the market still need significantly more that will come post 2030 and as we learn more, what are the environmental impacts so we're not just building this out without looking at all of the parameters that needs to be looked at. that's why we do permitting. >> senator manchin said he will hold hearings to get answers to the questions on what happened here and we will watch for that and thank you for coming in. we'll be back in a moment.
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we're over 100 days into a war that israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has vowed to continue. cbs's charlie d'agata accompanied the israeli military into gaza and filed this. >> reporter: we crossed into southern gaza through this same breach in the fence that hamas militants punched through to launch their rampage. where soldiers of the 55th brigade showed us a discovery
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they had made. a soldier kept his rifle pointed straight into the darkness down the shaft of the hundreds of miles of tunnels beneath gaza, this one enabled hamas fighters to infiltrate under open fields undetected planned long in advance. >> the patrol here they found the hole. the hole was here very small one with a letter. >> reporter: they're finding tunnels and shafts like this everywhere, but this is just a few hundred yards from the cro crossing itself and they believe it was used by hamas militants to attack that day. we push deeper into the territory towards the city of khan yunis witnessing scenes of devastation following bomb bartment that have not only leveled every building it's taken a toll on the citizen population.
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the largest city in southern gaza is thought to be a hamas stronghold where the militant leader was hiding out. hamas health officials say the death toll has now soared to more than 26,000. among them more than 10,000 children. we came to what used to be an elementary school in this upscale neighborhood, once a hamas fighting position we were told, now an israeli military base. a few moments ago a loud explosion and the skies are filled with smoke. it gives you an indication of how close you are to khan yunis and how this battle is raging on. we learned that was a controlled explosion of a building to dmi hamas gunmen places to take cover and counter attack. it's more than just urban warfare, says lieutenant colonel. >> they dress in civilian clothing. they move without their ammunition and collect it when they pop out from their underground infrastructure and then shoot at us, try to shoot
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and runaway. >> reporter: the israeli military say they've got khan yunis surrounded, yet hamas leaders and the more than 130 hostages still being held, are yet to be found. driving back through the destruction, the challenge is not just about seizing territory above ground but hunting down what's below. >> charlie d'agata has just returned to london from reporting in the region. charlie, journalists are not permitted into gaza to freely report on the war and that has been the subject of court cases in israel. so what restrictions did the idf put on you? >>. >> yeah. margaret, we cannot get into gaza from israel or from egypt for that matter because the israelis are holding all the cards. the only way you can get in is with the israeli military on an embed. what they mean they are the ones showing you around and create the narrative of what you can see. in that one we were there two, two and a half hours, we weren't
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allowed to broadcast it for 24 to 48 hours or talk about it. there are embargo restrictions. they want to see the material, but we never have it censored as such. it has to do with security issues. they didn't ask this time to see it at all. the difficult part is that we don't have any -- we're not free to roam, not free to get our own material or access or speak to anybody else there. the third embed that i've had, i haven't seen a single palestinian. i haven't seen any sign of life or death, having been able to get to any humanitarian centers or hospitals, so it's been impossible for us to independently report what's going on there, aside from the incredibly courageous work of our colleagues inside gaza. >> our producer mar juan ghoul and those in the fight. you have been in israel the
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better part of three weeks and in that time there has been growing international pressure, including this ruling by the international court of justice, ord ordering israel to prevent genocide but stopping short of calling for a cease-fire. i wonder what the soldiers you met with think of all this? are they feeling fatigue? >> there's fatigue there. as for the ruling soldiers never comment on government policy or politics. when you ask them about civilian casualties they're doing everything they can to avoid it. hamas hides in schools, tunnels, many israeli are giving examples of soldiers shooting unarmed citizens even hostages in one case. the country is split. those who back prime minister n nenz, who slammed the charges of
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genocide as outrageous and those who say enough is enough, get a cease-fire in there, get the hostages out, an at least discuss some kind of end game. >> charlie, important reporting and thank you for your contact. >> thank you. we're joined by save the children ceo janti soeripto. you were just back from the region and looking at how much aid can get into gaza to help the kids you're so concerned about. what did you learn? >> thanks, margaret. just come back after a little over ten days in the region, and i made it all the way to the border, to the rafah crossing. i managed to see the hundreds of trucks waiting and wish to get in and what we're seeing is still that getting aid into gaza is still woefully inadequate. we're looking at about 130, 150 trucks getting in a day on a good day, when i was there, it
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was not a good day, less than 100 came in, and let's remind ourselves that before october 7th, about 500 trucks made it into gaza every day and a mixture of aid and commercial supplies. so the number that is getting though is woefully inadequate, especially because the needs, of course, have skyrocketed. even if trucks come in, it is incredibly cumbersome process, many, many trucks off load and unload along the way, and then when you're into rafah, to get real last mile delivery or last hundred yards delivery getting shots in arms of children who need vaccinations, food, medical supplies to hospital, water to people, that is still difficult. there's 1.5 million stranded in rafah. people are everywhere. the streets are crowded. trucks and vans have difficulty moving. it's been almost um possible to get any supplies into the north
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of gaza where there are still hundreds of thousands of people stranded. >> those pictures are just incredible showing what that area of rafah was like and ■now just the concentration of humanity stuck there. i know that you have joined with our humanitarian organizations to say that this is unlike any conflict that you have ever seen in all your years of work. what makes it so different? >> it really, really is. i mean, people have nowhere to go, nowhere to go. they work in a lot of other crises from afghanistan to sudan to ukraine, but their situation is also bad, let me just put that out there. but there, there is still an opportunity for people to flee. here in gaza, it is completely impossible and the density of the people on a very small space of land now with the constant bombardment after the now
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humanitarian pause we had in november it makes it almost impossible to do, you know, at scale humanitarian responses, so that makes it hard. we're also incredibly concerned about the health situation, vastly deteriorating. only a few hospitals are still really operational, and it means that children in particular who are more vulnerable are also suffering from what ought to be resolvable, treatable illnesses, infections, respiratory track diseases, diarrhea, now become life threatening because there are no medicine to actually treat them. >> the u.n. agency in gaza said itses of is are collapsing as aid is being paused because of this revelation by israel that 12 people were tied to the attack on october 7th. i know the israeli government is saying other aid organizations not tainted with terrorism can step in. you're one of those aid organizations. can you handle stepping in?
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>> yeah. i think personally we think that's an example of some magical thinking. there is no way that collective humanitarian sector can completely replace unrwa, you know, in the short space of time that that will be necessary. let's not forget unrwa has had 13,000 staff in gaza. save the children has 23, 23,000 in gaza. yes. hundreds of community volunteers. >> i have to -- >> many aid organizations are in the same spot. >> i have t cut you off because of breaking news. we'll be right back. is persd based on your goals, whatever they may be. all that planning has paid off. looks like you can make this work. we can make this work. and the feeling of confidence that comes from our advice... i can make this work. that seems to be universal. i can make this work. i can make this work. no wonder more than 9 out of 10 clients are likely to recommend us. because advice worth listening to is advice worth talking about.
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