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think the nation will see a higher threat of violence if donald trump is elected and trump backers think the nation will see higher threats if vice president kamala harris is elected. do you have any concern about rhetoric and with democrats characterizing donald trump as a threat to democracy, do you think that can be used to justify or inadvertently even encourage violence? >> sure. it's start from the beginning. political violence of any form is unacceptable and we will not tolerate it, and the democratic top, from president biden, to vice president harris to members of congress such as myself have decried political violence full-stop. it is one of those things we ned to dial down the temperature and vitriol and it's important everybody do that. as you mentioned in your earlier segment it starts at the top.
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leadership matters. both sides of the aisle need to make sure we're being thoughtful about these conversations we're having. important to you about me, you and i would likely not be talking had there not been the first election of president trump and many of the ways he conducts himself need to make sure that we understand should he return to the white house, i am personally concerned that would be a problem for our democracy. but that means that i'm working hard to make sure that i get out the vote and have the conversations to make sure that kamala harris is successful in her efforts to go to the white house. >> you said in this bipartisan investigation that is a focus for you to make sure you hae republicans and democrats delivering the same message. and i take your point there. >> absolutely. and -- exactly. we were chosen because we're serious lawmakers, we were chosen because we tend to be the people who are willing to do the work and quietly and effective will you and to do it bipartisanly and that's what i
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intent to do. >> you are, as we said, a representative from pennsylvania, and the commonwealth is a key battleground. our cbs polling shows it is just dead heat there. but yesterday, senator jd vance was campaigning in pennsylvania, and he said they feel extremely good about their prospects there. do you have that kind of confidence? >> i have the opposite feeling, which as i mentioned, i would not be talking to you had hillary clinton been successful years ago. we had confidence as democrats that evening that pennsylvania would be blue, and as we all know, that wasn't the case. i will let mr. vance have his confidence because i'm going to keep working all the way into the end of the election and through the finish line because i really believe it's that important that we take nothing for granted and that we work as hard as we can during the next several weeks i guess, six weeks now. >> six weeks. and, you know, on that debate
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stage, i heard vice president harris very specifically speak to the 500,000 polish americans she said live in the commonwealth of pennsylvania. and she drew that directly to her position on ukraine and the war there. i know you are leading outreach to polish americans. how do you quantify how that war thousands of miles away from the united states, impacts how voters in the state of pennsylvania actually think about it? do you really think that it has an influence on the vote? >> i do. i can draw a straight line to it. my father was born in poland in 1942. he and his mother survived the holocaust. i'm here in america because he was able to survive and came here and had a thriving naval career and now i'm a member of congress, one generation later. that is because of the constant war that goes over that part of
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our world. starting back in. i think it's important we talk to the polish american population and everybody from the eastern europe area because it's not that long ago that world war ii was and that is absolutely something that can repeat itself if we don't support the ukrainians and their fight for their democracy, which is their fight for all of our democracies. also importantly as a pennsylvanian, the lithuanian national guard is our partner country and so our men and women are in lithuania at this moment within harm's way if we don't help ukraine. i think it's absolutely an issue that makes sense and that we should talk about in places like pennsylvania. >> okay. and my producer telling me it's higher than half a million, it's 800,000 polish americans. >> it is 800,000. >> yeah. >> wow. okay. >> it's a good number. >> it certainly seems like that. and the president of poland visiting the commonwealth today as well. we'll watch and see how that impacts what your voters think.
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visit bentcarrot.com to find one today. we go to colorado democratic governor jared polis who joining us this morning from boulder, colorado. welcome back to "face the nation." i know you are supporting -- >> pleasure to be here. > supporting the vice president's bid for the presidency. she is ahead by four points, as you heard, in our latest poll, but this is very tight. what is your greatest area of concern of potential vulnerability here? >> well, yeah, it's neck and neck, and, you know, i was -- i was reflecting this morning, you know the next president we elect is going to be president during our 250th anniversary as a nation, our semi quinn centennial, a term we'll hear more of. we know donald trump is not the person that can unite and bring us together in that exciting time to celebrate our nation's past, present and future. let's give kamala harris the opportunity to show she is. i really feel she's ready to
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unite us. it's neck and neck and we need to get the vet out in the states ta -- vote out in the states that matter to make sure we can move forward rather than backward as a country. >> i want to ask about her economic plans but first about immigration. you heard senator rubio talk about the lack of attention being paid to immigration and the border crisis, but i know you have been dealing with it firsthand. in aurora, colorado, getting a lot of attention from the trump team in particular, because of members of a venezuelan prison gang who migrated here to the united states and apparently were involved in a shooting in aurora during the debate, donald trump used aurora as an example as a worst of the migrant crisis. this is what he said yesterday. >> under border czar harris, venezuelan gangs have taken over entire apartment buildings in aurora, colorado. the governor is petrified in colorado. he's a liberal governor.
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he doesn't know what to do. the guy is so scared of these guys and maybe you can't blame him -- >> governor, local officials set up a special task force, but how do you respond to this personal attack here? >> well, you know, i went shopping in aurora yesterday. what a lot of americans need to know is aurora is over 400,000 people, colorado's third largest city. violent crime is down two years in a row, car thefts are down two years in a row. it's a wonderful city. there all the time. it's really a great diverse city and growing fast. it will probably be the number one or two city in colorado over the next decade or two. great city. safer than it's been. look, like any city, chicago, l.a., mid sized city, denver, there's been an issue with gangs for decades in aurora and i feel like we turned the corner. this is the difference between electing a president that skirts the law versus one who has made a career enforcing the law. kamala harris is somebody who
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stared criminal enterprises in the face, put criminals behind bars as district attorney and going to take that same attitude to the white house to make america safer. >> the mayor of aurora has acknowledged a special task force was established and said they're working with the federal government, regional issue. should -- should the harris campaign be talking about some of the these real issues in a way that might help their campaign. the answer is about the failed border bill in congress that's usually what the harris campaign talks about. should they acknowledge more of the real issues? >>, well, first of all that's a legitimate and important issue to talk about. joe biden and kamala harris, democratic and republican leaders in congress, had a real bill before them to make the needed investments in border security. look, i've been down to the border. i've -- i've been at border crossings.
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we need better border security. kamala harris will deliver on that because it's not a simple proposition. it requires investment. high-tech imts. fencing, scanning, more border patrol agents which the bill would have funded more border patrol agents. i'm confident that kamala harris is somebody that will solve the border issue rather than keep it going for purely political reasons and dividing us. we need somebody who will unite us and that includes securing our border. >> should she talk about it more? >> look, i think she talks about it as one of the issues. we need to make america safer. we need to secure the border. she had a plan to do that. it was blocked by donald trump and republicans. so look, i think it's a great issue for people to run on and talk about. it's one that democrats should have a huge advantage on. republicans have failed time and time again to secure our border. >> i want to ask about the economic plans here. vice president harris has a proposal to tackle housing affordability and she wants to give a first-time home buyer's
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down payment credit of $25,000 in addition to a $10,000 tax credit. i know you see this firsthand what the crisis looks like in colorado. are you concerned that this will fuel demand for homes and just push up prices rather than solving the supply issue? >> so that's not the whole plan, right. that's one plank of the plan. her plan is focused on creating over 3 million new homes, reducing bureaucracy and red tape and making it easier to build homes people can afford. as part of that we want people when they can to be owners instead of renters to build value. this is the opportunity economy she talks about. right. renting a home place to live is important. owning a home, building equity and wealth over time, that's what kamala harris believes in. of course 3 million new homes, reducing bureaucracy and paperwork making the easier to build, transform renters into owners, is a key thing to do to
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help make america more successful. >> that's how you would choose to solve it in your state as well? you think this would fix the problem? >> well, again, yeah, you talk about one plank. we're engaged in very similar reforms here. we've allowed people to build accessory units, mother-in-law flats by right, multifamily more inherently housing. the hardest homes to build not just in colorado but across the country have been the 200,000, $300,000 starter homes somebody might be able to make the down payment and afford. the average home price in the denver metro area is $600,000 and that's great for those who can afford it. we need more homes that are available for purchase in that 2 to $300,000 range. that's what we're focused on in colorado. we need the help. this takes mayors, governors, presidents all working in the same direction making housing more affordable and what kamala harris' plan will do. >> governor, thank you for your
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israel's strikes firing over 100 rockets deep into israel overnight. cbs news foreign correspondent chris livesay has the latest from tel aviv. >> reporter: a barrage of hezbollah rocket and drones pierce the stillness of northern israel this morning. israel says most were intercepted by the iron dome defenses, but some found their target like this strike near haifa which left three wounded and one dead when a teenager lost control of his vehicle. all of it in response to this. an israeli attack on friday in southern beirut that killed top hezbollah commander akill who will be buried today following the bur ralph other commanders who died in the strike. the strike after two days after devastating attacks on thousands of hezbollah militants. the israeli military said the war center of gravity is moving north towards hezbollah and away
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from hamas. but israel hasn't forgotten about gaza. today, a school where hundreds were sheltering was struck west of gaza city. this just a day after the hamas-run health ministry said a strike on another shelter turned school left more than 20 people dead, half of them children, one of them a pregnant woman. israel said the school had been turned into a hamas command center. in a separate instance, our cbs news team in gaza filmed babies and children injured in a strike on their family home this morning. >> in our al jazeera office in occupied west bank, has just been raided. >> reporter: in the west bank during a live broadcast, israeli forces shut down the ramallah bureau of broadcaster al jazeera as a journalist read the warrant. the qatar based network is accused of inciting and supporting terrorism. so far israel has not claimed
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responsibility for those exploding beepers and walkie-talkies, but today, prime minister benjamin netanyahu did say that israel dealt hezbollah, quote, a sequence of blows they could not imagine. >> that was our chris livesay from tel aviv. we turn to the president of israel, isaac herzog. welcome back to "face the nation." >> thank you, margaret. good morning. >> mr. president, in the past few days, israel carried out a groundbreaking operation against thousands of hezbollah fighters in lebanon. the u.s. was only given 20 minutes' notice ahead of time. since then, israel also carried out a strike in beirut that killed senior commanders of hezbollah. what is the strategy here, and is israel trying to escalate into a full-blown war with hezbollah? >> absolutely not. we did not want this war. we're not seeking war. this war was waged upon us by the proxies of the empire of
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evil of iran on october 7th by hamas and on october 8th by hezbollah and ever since, from lebanon in the north and hamas in the south and all over the middle east, the proxies of iran are attacking and attacking. hezbollah has been attacking us on a daily basis. demolishing israeli villages and towns. basically leading to the eviction of 100,000 israelis from their homes. life has been shattered in our northern border. i don't think any american would have accepted it as a -- kind of a status quo situation in the united states. and at the end, there are things that must be done. the duty of a government or a nation is to take care of its citizens and bring them back hme. >> on the issue of what's happening in the north of israel right now, the white house argues a war in lebanon is not the way to bring those 100,000
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israeli back into their homes. they want a diplomatic agreement about that blue line. do you think that the current government of israel wants a diplomatic agreement? >> we never said that we don't want a diplomatic agreement. on the contrary. there is a very able american envoy, the president's adviser, trying to go back and forth between us and the lebanese, but truly, let's understand the situation. when you are dealing with terror organizations, they don't really give a dam about international affairs. they take hostages or they fire as much as they want, they get instructions from tehran, they send houthi terrorists to block the high seas and the cost of living in the world goes up. this is the culture of terror. it's the terror of jihadists. they don't give a dam about anything. we agree time and again to go
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into rounds of talks. we support and welcome the efforts by the united states of america and the administration. truly we're respected tremendously. at the end of it, okay. mr. hockstein's leaves israel and they keep firing and firing and that cannot go on forever because our citizens must go back home because the guy in lebanon, mr. nasrallah, thinks he wants to link it to gaza. in gaza there's mr. sin war in the dungeons who refuses to get to the deal. this is jihadism at its best. i wish truly and say as the president of israel officially and say it outright because i know, we don't want war, but if it's waged against us, we go all the way. >> well, you say you don't want war. mr. president, israel moved its 98th division to the north of
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israel this week. your defense minister says the center of gravity is moving towards lebanon. what is the intention of those military moves if not to prepare for war? >> because these guys whom we eradicated on friday were gathering together in their apartment in beirut, in order to plan another october 7th. they developed this school of thought swarming into israel, of trying to take hostage, of butchering, raping, burning, abducting. >> do you have evidence -- >> we have enough risks here to take care of. pardon? >> do you have evidence there was an imminent attack? >> so i can't go into all the information itself, but it is assumed that they were planning an attack. you see today this morning, they took out a barrage of attacks on israeli citizens, towns and
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villages, all over the northern part of israel, pounding with huge bombs and missiles on the northern part of israel. why would any nation accept it? why would any decent nation accept it? we're almost a year in such a situation over kind of a vicious cycle. we want to get out of this vicious cycle. >> this past week the ap put out graphic footage shot in the west bank where israeli soldiers pushed the bodies of palestinians off the roof of buildings there. the white house says they want an investigation. that this is abhorrent and egregious behavior. how do you respond to these concerns from one of your closest allies that israel may be adding to escalation risks? >> so we, of course, listen to our closest ally openly and frankly. this is -- if it occurred as reported and it is under investigation because we are a nation of the rule of law, we
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will, of course, take all necessary action. we will condemn it and use all, you know, the legal steps that need to be taken against it, but we are studying it because we're a serious army and a serious people and study and investigate ourselves as much as we can. >> before i let you go, do you think that president biden's efforts to negotiate that hostage deal is just wishful thinking at this point? will this be a problem for the next american president? >> so actually, i would say that i have huge respect for president biden's effort and we support it wholeheartedly. but as the spokesperson of the national security council general kirby said the other day, we are not getting any positive signs from hamas at all from sinwar out there in the dungeons taking -- whatever we think in our line of thinking as
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free, loving nations and people he thinks the other way. i would say, that actually the call for the family of nations in this current crisis which is boiling hot, is actually perhaps the opportunity to go forward and change the situation by finding the right exit and bringing the hostages back home. >> mr. president, thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you very much. >> we'll be right back.
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