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washington, and this week on "face the nation," officials here and abroad are bracing for more conflict as we approach the one year anniversary of hamas's brutal one year attack on israel. president trump goes back to butler, pennsylvania. just 16 days into the month and the october surprises are coming at a fast and furious pace giving the candidates plenty of attack material for the final month on the campaign trail. the hurricane helene recovery mounts. >> people are dying in north carolina. they're dying all over. there's five, six states. they're dying and they're getting no help from our federal government because they have no money. because their money's been spent on people that should not be in our country.

>> we'll fact check that talking point. then can vice president harris tighten the gap between her economic record and trump's following a surprisingly strong jobs report and a drop in unemployment? >> america lost nearly 200,000 manufacturing jobs when he was president, including tens of thousands of jobs in michigan making donald trump one of the biggest losers of manufacturing jobs in american history. >> we'll talk to two senators from battleground states, arizona democrat mark kelly and north carolina republican tom till lis. plus, on the eve of the one year anniversary of the hamas massacre in israel, where does the war stand today now that iran has entered the conflict? we'll have the latest from house intelligence committee chairman mike turner, former centcom commander frank mckenzie and katheryn russell from unicef

updates us on the impact on the war on the region's children. it's all just ahead on "face the nation". good mornings. welcome to "face the nation." the as we begin this broadcast the airstrikes from israel into gaza and southern beirut are bjorn going and there is no end in sight to the war that is about to enter its second year. the question of just how effective u.s. leadership has been and potentially would be in a new administration when it comes to israel is one raised frequently on the campaign trail. for special election edition of "60 minutes" that will air monday, our bill whit taker sat down with vice president harris and asked her about u.s. influence with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> we supply israel with

billions of dollars of military aid and yet prime minister netanyahu is charting his own course. the biden/harris administration has pressed him into cease-fire, he's resisted. you've urged him not to go into lebanon, he went anyway. he has promised to make iran pay for the attack. that has the potential for expanding the war. does the u.s. have no sway over prime minister netanyahu? >> the aid that we have given israel allowed them to defend themselves against 200 ballistic missiles that were meant to attack the israelis and the people of israel. and when we think about the threat that hamas/hezbollah presents iran, i think that it is without any question our imperative to do what we can to

allow israel to defend themselves against those kinds of attacks. now the work that we do diplomatically with the leadership of israel is an ongoing pursuit around making clear our principles, which include the need for humanitarian aid, the need for this war to end, the need for a deal to be done which would release the hostages and create a cease-fire, and we're not going to stop in terms of putting that pressure on israel and in the region, including arab leaders. >> but it seems that prime minister netanyahu is not listening. >> well, bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.

>> do we have a real close ally in prime minister netanyahu? >> i think with all due respect the better question is do we have an important alliance between the american people and the israeli people, and the answer to that question is yes. >> the special primetime election edition of 60 mints airs monday night at 8 p.m. after initially accepting an interview with scott pelley, former president trump's campaign has decided not to participate. yesterday former president trump held a rally in butler, pennsylvania, three months after he was injured in the a cisis s nation attempt. mr. trump paid tribute to the victims and thanked first responders and secret service agents who protected him on july 13th.

despite the somber tone, they were saying their political opponents were responsible for the attempt on mr. trump's life. >> over the past eight years those who want to stop us from a cheechg this future have slandered me, impeempd me, indicted me, tried to throw me off the ballot and be who knows, maybe even tried to kill me. >> and then, guys, they tried to kill him. they tried to kill him. and it's because the democratic party, they can't do anything right. they can't do anything right. >> to kamala harris, how dare you talk about threats to democracy? donald trump took a bullet for democracy. what the hell have you done? >> we turn now to the chairman of the house intelligence committee, ohio republican mike turner. good to have you back with us. >> thanks for having me, margaret. >> i want to get to the middle east, but first on this issue of concern regarding political violence. the would you agree that language like what we just heard

there is unhelpful? >> i think it certainly characterizes the reality that donald trump has had two attempts on his life. i do think there is work that needs to be done, both by the administration and by vice president harris. the administration has come out and publicly stated, matt olsen from the department of justice on cbs news, acknowledged there is an active ongoing threat from iran to kill, actively plotting to kill donald trump. you've had no segments from the administration towards iran as to what that would be, which would be an act of war. and you don't have any statements from vice president harris condemning this or recognizing there is an attempt to kill her opponent. both sides need to recognize this to deter. i think all the candidates need to de-escalate. >> but it is a biden/harris justice department. matt olson works for them who laid out those charges about the

iranian state. you don't mean to imply here anything that would suggest eric trump's allegations that democrats are trying to kill him, correct? >> of course not, but i do think that vice president harris needs to actively state and acknowledge that her administration is saying a foreign power, which would be an act of war -- >> sure. >> -- is actively trying to kill her opponent. >> that's a different question. >> they have made stronger statements about iran's hacking activities than they have about the active plot to kill donald trump which the administration acknowledges is ongoing. >> because of the concern in regards to antigovernment violence in this country and domestic violence extremists. the language specific to who is carrying this out i think you would agree is important. >> i absolutely agree that there needs to be a toning down of rhetoric on both sides. there has to be an acknowledgment, which has not happened, from vice president harris that there is active plots by a foreign nation to kill her opponent. >> do you want the fbi to

release the results of their investigations prior to november 5th as senator rubio in senate tore rubio has called for? >> the assassination attempt? >> which have not had any ties to the state of iran or any political actors. >> saying that there have been no substantiated ties doesn't mean that the investigation has concluded that there are no ties. and i want those investigations to come to a conclusion and determine whether or not either of these plots have any nexus or connection to the active plot the administration is saying that iran is plotting in attempting to kill donald trump which, again, this administration needs to make clear to iran, that would be an act of war and needs to have a very strong response from the administration. >> before the investigation's concluded because it may not wind up before november the 5th, would you like the fbi to make public some of its findings to rule out some of the conspiracy

theories like we just heard from that stage that the political opposition is responsible? >> i don't think they would be able to do that. >> you don't think they would? >> i think they would need to conclude i don't think they could release information that would conclusively indicate that either of those individuals acted completely alone. >> i want to turn to the middle east. you've already taken us there in talking about iran specifically, but where we are right now is nearly exactly a year from that terrorist attack on october 7th. you called that a huge intelligence failure from the israelis when it happened. given all that has happened in recent weeks, i wonder what you assess about israeli intelligence right now? >> the united states is working cooperatively with israel, in ways that we were not necessarily working prior to october 7th. and i do think that israel has changed its focus in its intelligence collecting and its assessments of intelligence.

they have risen to the occasion to understand that they're in an active conflict and looking into ways to diminish the capabilities of their adversaries. >> that nearest adversary at the moment appears to be the government of iran. what should the 40,000 u.s. troops that president biden has deployed to the region be bracing for? are you concerned that the united states will get drawn into this conflict if israel carries out strikes on iran? >> right. so he this is another area where the administration has not risen to the occasion. president biden said that the nuclear program of iran is off the table. it should not be a valid military target by israel and the united states. absolutely, in fact, the president himself, president biden, has previously said the united states would not allow iran to get a nuclear weapon and that he would use military action if necessary, his own secretary of state has said more than two weeks ago that iran's breakout time to become a

nuclear state was two weeks. >> right. >> so you have iran now actively -- >> it's still not weaponizing. u.s. intelligence has not said iran has made a decision. >> they have not publically stated the current status of the program other than what blinken has said that the breakout time was two weeks. >> right. >> the -- looking to proportionality at where biden s israel can only respond in proportion, it is saying israel can send 200 missiles nice rail and as long as we have missile defense that takes them out, we won't look at iran's provocation there trying to kill and destroy individuals and towns in israel. that should be the response. the understanding should be that iran has moved beyond their proxy. hamas, hezbollah, houthis to have direct attacks to israel. israel needs to be able to

defend itself and iran needs to pay the price. >> the centcom commander is in israel. just to be clear, the united states really only has the equipment that can take out the kind of underground facilities that are essential to the iranian nuclear program. are you advocating for the united states to be involved in defensive actions? >> i believe it's completely irresponsible for the president of the united states to say it's off the table when he's previously said it's on the table. for him to give iran the comfort that their actions of attacking directly iran will not have any consequences for that nuclear weapons program is irresponsible. >> so not a yes or a no but -- i want to ask you about something that's happening in your district because you have a vested interest in what's happening in springfield, ohio. this is the town that's gotten so much attention in the past weeks because of the haitian migrant population there. going all the way back to february you've been sending letters asking for federal help.

bringing them to washington to advocate how to deal with the strain of the population growth. have you gotten the federal help you've asked for for springfield, ohio? >> no. the mayor has done an excellent job both in advocating, in trying to pull the community together. he's come here. we've brought him to the federal agencies. it is a federally created problem. the biden administration through expanding the parole program i believe illegally brought 5,000 people here from cuba, venezuela, haiti, others. 15 to 20,000 people settled in springfield, ohio. then the administration did something even more shocking last week. they indicated they were not going to extend the temporary protected status that these individuals have which could result into their going into an illegal status. springfield would have these individuals, they would not have any direct federal support and the community would get no additional assistance as to how

to handle this almost 10% of the population of the city. >> yeah. >> that would now fall into an illegal status as a result of the administration terminating their protected status. >> which may happen in the coming -- >> months. >> -- year so this could be an issue for the next president, whoever that president is. congressman, thank you for explaining. "face the nation" will be back in a minute. stay wit us. you have... the fearless investor. the type a cpa. the bootstrapper. the bootmaker. yeehaw [narrator] but many do have something in common. we all trust schwab with our wealth. [narrator] thanks to our award-winning service, low costs and transparent advice. every day, over a million multi-millionares trust schwab with more than two trillion dollars of their wealth. sometimes jonah wrestles with falling asleep... ...so he takes zzzquil. the world's #1 sleep aid brand. and wakes up feeling like himself. get the rest to be your best

with non-habit forming zzzquil. ♪ ♪ joining us joining us now is arizona senator mark kelly. he's in detroit on the campaign trail for the harris campaign. good morning to you, senator. >> good morning, margaret. >> i want to talk to you about arizona, but let's start in michigan which is where you are right now. it is going to be such a key state to a potential harris or trump victory. vice president harris is facing challenges among black men, working class people as well as the muslim and arab population skeptical of the white house support for israel's wars.

what are you hearing on the ground there from voters? >> well, my wife gabby giffords and i have been out here for a couple of days. we've been campaigning across the country, michigan. i've been in north carolina, georgia as well. i'll be back to arizona here soon. the vice president was out here speaking to muslim organizations and the arab community about what is at stake in this election and addressing the concerns that they have. we're hearing issues about the economy, gun violence, about supporting american families and the difference between donald trump and kamala harris. kamala harris who has a vision for the future of this country. donald trump, who just wants to drag us backwards. >> today in dearborn, michigan, there's a funeral service for an american man killed in lebanon by an israeli airstrike. it just underscores how that community you're talking about out in michigan feels some of

what's happening in a personal way to their community. given how close this race is, do you think this war and the expectation it could escalate could cost democrats both a seat in the senate and potentially the presidency? >> margaret, nobody wants to see escalation and it's tragic when any innocent person, whether it's an american or pallian lose their life in a conflict. tomorrow's one year since october 7 pth when israel was violently attacked. israel has a right to defend itself, not only from hamas but from hezbollah, and from the iranians but, you know, i and my wife, you know, we feel for the community here who's been affected by this, and that's why the vice president was out here earlier a few days ago meeting with that community. >> but it's a live issue.

>> yeah, sure. i mean, there is an ongoing conflict in the middle east. israel is, you know, fighting a war now on i think it's fair to say two fronts and then being attacked by the iranians as well and they -- they need to defend themselves. we need to support our israeli ally. at the same time, when women and children lose their life, innocent people in a conflict, it is tragic. >> you do sit on the senate intelligence committee, so i know you know how intense the efforts are by foreign actors to try and manipulate voters going into november. just this friday matthew olson, the lead on election threats at the department of justice, told cbs the russians are, quote, highlighting immigration as a wedge issue. that is such a key issue in

arizona. are you seeing targeted information operations really focusing in on arizonans right now? >> not only in arizona, in other battleground states. it's the russians, the chinese, the iranians. it's significant. and we need to do a better job getting the message out to the american people that there is a huge amount of misinformation. if you are looking at stuff on twitter, on tiktok, on facebook, on instagram and it's political in nature and you might think that that person responding to that political article or who made that meme up is an american, it could be -- it could look like a u.s. service member, there is a very reasonable chance, i would put it in the 20 to 30% range, that the content you are seeing, the comments you are seeing are coming from one of those three countries, russia, iran, china.

we had a hearing recently with the fbi director, the dni, and the head of the national security agency, and we talked about this. we talked about getting the word out, and it's up to us, so thank you for asking me the question, because it's up to us, the people who serve in had congress, and the white house, to get the information out there that there is a tremendous amount of misinformation in this election. it's not going to stop on november 5th. >> understood. and we will do our best to help parse that for viewers, but on the topic of the border, president biden did announce just this past week new regulations to keep in place that partial asylum ban that he rolled out back in june. that's what's credited with helping to bring down some of the border crossing numbers in recent weeks. it was supposed to be a temporary policy dependent on how many people were crossing at a time. do you think this is the right long-term policy or is this just

a gimmick to bring down numbers ahead of the election? >> well, the right long-term policy is to do this through legislation, and we were a day or two away from doing that, passing strong border security legislation supported by the vice president, negotiated by the vice president and the president and his department of homeland security with democrats and republicans. >> this is not legislation. >> this is bipartisan. this isn't. the legislation was killed by donald trump. we were really close to getting it passed. that's the correct way to do this. when you can't do that, margaret. when a former president interrupts the legislative process the way he did, which is the most hypocrite call thing i've ever seen in my 3 1/2 years in the senate, after that happened the only other option is executive actions. this has gone from what was chaos and a crisis at our southern border to somewhat manageable. if you are the border patrol,

you know, this is -- you need this. i mean, otherwise it is unsafe for border patrol agents, for cbp officers, for migrants, for communities in southern arizona. >> yeah. >> it's unfortunate these were the steps that had to be taken. >> okay. >> but that's because the former president didn't allow us to do this through legislation. >> senator, we have to leave it right there. "face the nation" will be right back. (vo) kate made progress with her mental health, but her medication caused unintentional movements in her face, hands, and feet called tardive dyskinesia, or td.

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