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welcome back to cbs news, election night headquarters in new york. it's 2:00 a.m. in the east, 11:00 p.m. in the west. former president trump is having a very big night and we're waiting to hear from him as he prepares to take the stage at his florida campaign headquarters. cbs news says republicans will take control of the senate. dru donald trump has 246 electoral votes, kamala harris has 194. cbs news rates that as lean republican. it's been a toss-up. other networks have called it for the former president. alongside pennsylvania, rates
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wisconsin as lean republican as well. projects that donald trump will win. cbs. >> >> gayle: i want to say when jim clyburn was here. there was still a path was here. there see it looks like earlier today or yesterday now my days are all running together, you said the conversation about black men was being exaggerated, exaggerated an hour ago you had hope. do you still? as you sit here now? >> i got to have hope, but also
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got to read polls and data. and the data certainly suggests things aren't going well. my point >> my point about black men, it's a complex story. topline, harris mostly held biden's vote share with black men but lost them in key places and key states and key localities where she needed to have them. i think also there's a story with latino men as well. my colleague leslie speaks to it so well. i think democrats this coalition is changing, it has to change and there has to be introspection why working class voters are missing some of the messages we're putting across. i don't think that working class voters don't like democratic ideas, it's sometimes the
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packaging. voters keep firing people and we have to understand why. >> i hate to ask this question, asking while clutching my pearls, could it be a woman issue? when barack obama suggested it, some people were offended he raised it. we've had hillary clinton and >> gayle: isn't ready for a woman president? >> we live in a country where people are different silos. the gap is widening based on education, gender, location, pocketbook. that's creating a real fissure and how we think about our political coalitions and that's the best explanation late on a tuesday night, early wednesday .
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that i can give you. >> this is margaret, as you sit here, i'm thinking through what a trump presidency would mean for the legacy of joe biden. what the question is about what the vice president could have done differently to say she was not joe biden and then a change candidate, what she could've articulated. tell me about some of the missed opportunities that you think ar. tell me about the missed opportunities. >> every defeat, people want to point fingers. that's already happening. i think kamala harri actually, for what she was handed, sometime in the middle of july, ran a fairly competent, good, durable campaign. clearly based on campaign. clearly it's probably not enough. but i don't know if you can point to infrastructure or design of a campaign. i think these are stubborn issues. >> the message?
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i mentioned a stubborn economy, the country was coming back from covid. that's a real i think maybe the country is still dealing with some ptsd from covid as well. there's a lot of reasons why we are here today. in terms of message, folks are going to fight about the different types of messaging. >> norah: i apologize, standby. cbs news has a new projection for the battleground state of pennsylvania and its 19 electoral votes. cbs news projects that donald trump will be the winner of the state of pennsylvania. it's a state that biden carried four years ago but trump won in 2016. major projection and that essentially closes the pathway
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for kamala harris and the presidency. robert costa. >> robert: so much disappointment among my top democratic sources tonight about pennsylvania. there was promised for democrats in 2022 when governor josh shapiro, senator john fetterman were able to appeal to working people in pennsylvania. schapiro famously campaigned on trying to integrate people without college degrees into the state government. you see him urging the harris campaign for weeks to appeal to working people and union members. for vice president harris not to be able to stitch together the federman, schapiro, biden coalition pennsylvania, suburban centrists, union workers in pittsburgh and philadelphia, voters of color, a massive disappointment for democrats to have a pair pennsylvania part of the blue wall but it's central to democratic power in this country. >> norah: of course it's where joe biden is from. scranton, pennsylvania. joe from scranton. the other interesting thing as
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we wait donald trump and we will take his remarks as he is set to appear before supporters is the soul-searching and of course the questions about strategy that margaret was just raising. the question about whether kamala harris and the democratic party made a mistake by not choosing josh shapiro as the vice presidential pick for the reasons robert outlined. and also has been noted vance's performance of the debate made a number of republicans comfortable with the ticket. huge ratings that saw someone that had moderated his message for the national audience. >> not to get ahead of it. we are still in election 2024 but people close to josh shapiro are encouraging him to think about running for president in 2028. there will be a reckoning inside the democratic party should vice president harris be defeated tonight. whether it's governor newsom in california or governor shapiro,
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there are already donors in the democratic party, strateists trying to think through what does the future look like? >> gayle: or governor wes moore in maryland. >> we could go through a list of 20 or 30. >> john: there is a first mover's advantage for any democrat who wants to speak to their part in this moment of uncertainty and wobbling us. what you're describing is real because all these feature ambitious politicians have a moment the vacancies to try to define with the democratic party is going to need to be in this new era. >> we see the same thing on the right because trump says it's the last campaign he will run and he's ready to hand the torch to j.d. vance. >> i heard people cheering. speak it was the people of times square. >> norah: it sounds like there's some commotion. to we did get a two-minute warning which is acute to the ps and others that the former president of the united states is going to be walking onto the stage -- soon as he does we will
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take his remarks live. i am struck by the conversation we had earlier which is what trump will show up. it's interesting we ask that question after having him on the national stage for more than a decade. >> john: we remember that after the speech that tony referred to after winning in 2016 he gave the inaugural address about american carnage. didn't last long. he has been affirmed in this campaign that his instincts and the way he wants to be is the way he wants to be and he's been affirmed in this race. >> robert: stepped back for a moment and think that a 78-year-old american from queens is about to win the presidency again which is so unlikely in american history, someone who grew up working with his father here in new york, learning from roy combe, the infamous lawyer about never accepting defeat. becomes an apprentice star, a
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figure on the national wrestling scene, politics in 1987, thanks about it in 1999, finally runs for president in 2015 after questioning president obama's love of country and credentials, wins in 2016, leads a pressure campaign against his own vice president in 2020 and 2021 that's embraced by the republican party for a third nomination. how unusual it is to be a nominee three times for any national party. he is a seismic force in american history whether you dislike him, hate him, loathe him, love him or are indifferent. this is a figure know who has been a nominee three times and potentially winning the presidency twice after all of the convictions, all of the challenges. he might be back. >> gayle: when you mentioned "the apprentice chemicals but there's a movie out now starrig
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jeremy strong. they were saying training under rick home, when attacked, attack, attack, attack. deny, deny, deny. never admit feet and never apologize. people say that's what he continues to do. it seems to have served him w well. when we started the night we kept saying it's going to be a long night. we are not going to know anything today. certainly not pennsylvania. now we are sitting here little after 2:00 and it looks like this race is over. >> we were bracing collectively as a country for donald trump to preemptively declare victory. i don't know if this is so preemptive. >> while he doesn't have everything he needs to win, should he win, he would be the oldest man ever elected and the second man to be elected at different times, joining grover cleveland. someone who served two terms.
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>> norah: as we await the former president i want to check in with caitlin huey-burns because she's there in west palm beach, florida. caitlin? >> reporter: we have been covering the former president's campaign all year. his supporters believe this is anticipated all along. his campaign have been telling us they expected results on election night and it seems like they will get them even though we are technically into the next day. i want to pick up on the significance of pennsylvania just quickly because i essentially have been parked there for much of this cycle because donald trump himself has been parked there
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coming out of the shadows to voice their support for him. there are so many moments throughout this campaign we're seeing perhaps as controversies or liabilities for the former president, including the 34 felony counts that ended up endearing his party further to that kind of base of support i think is significant. now we have talked about how that base could have been limited, but the campaign also made a big gamble, trying to expand beyond that base to low propensity voters, that gamble seems to have paid off. he will have done that without changing anything about who he is or what his message is. he didn't make any overt
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overtures, his message was my message on the economy will bring you in. he would make it to women voters, despite the gender gap and controversy over the way he talked to women that. was the theory of the case, they would tap in to this with his personality. we saw that especially in the closing days of the campaign, he veered off message, leaning into those instincts. we can assess what the coalition looks like as it comes together. significant gambles have paid off. just spending so much time over this year talking to voters on the ground, talking to voters of all parties, all walks of life, there was really an uncertainty in the electorate, the feeling of a world on edge, an economy
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that just wasn't working. donald trump tapped into that, perhaps in a more dark way. his rhetoric was much more harsh. their theory was that this is an america that's not in a good place. their theory was using those instincts and his personality and the campaign he's been waging for nearly a decade would bring the voters into the fold. >> we're moments away from donald trump taking the stage. leslie sanchez, your thoughts? >> i think for many americans, they're really excited about a change in america they fundamentally believe in. looking at something senator marco rubio was writing ba, not talking about ethnic identity as coming together as americans. some won't buy that, will be
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sour grapes and people pointing fingers. when we're looking at this now, this is a multiracial, working class, middle class republican party. it has been in the making for many election cycles and i think trump has leaned into that. he saw this was where the country was going, and this is why you see that wave across america. it's all of those communities, big and small, different identities and ethnicities, feeling this economic pinch and this crush of immigrants across the border, there is a porous border and nothing was done about it, the impact it's having economically on communities across the country, really felt significant. why you had such a passionate response from so many people. >> lesley, south this is a republican party forever changed? what happens to republicans who may not be okay with the way
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donald trump behaves or some of his beliefs, are they totally out now? >> everybody's welcome, right? a coalition of people that come together around a set of ideas. political scientists say about every 40 years you see big political shifts in party i.d. and partisanship. we believe we've been in that for a few cycles now. you haven't seen it since the 1980s, now you're seeing it again. the party has changed, it's more ethnic, working class, middle class. you're seeing many more college educated, advanced educated suburban communities moving to the left and republicans have added that into the calculation. it is a different party. does it mean it's not welcome? no, but that's the frustration you saw in 2020 and in 2016. established republicans ringing their hands, this is not a party
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we recognize. welcome to the new republican party. >> i asked that question because i hear so many times from republicans who say i don't like some of the things he does, the way he behaves, but feel like i have to go along to get along, even if some say i have to hold my nose and hide my ears. >> you remind me of one voter in bucks county, bristol, puerto rican family, business community, we talked about some of the disparaging comments at the msg rally, said is that to hurt the puerto rican community and make a difference. they said you know there's going to be bluster, but it's about our community, family, faith and pocket book. we believe trump is going to be better on the economy and help us get where we're trying to go. all these families have a dream they feel has been stagnant post covid and they want a dramatic shift. that's where they're falling and
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where they fall today. >> there's a lot of talk about how latino voters are going to have to be studied a little more. what would you say republicans did right, democrats maybe did wrong this cycle? especially with the fact that it looks like former president trump won latino men overall. >> and some of the counties in south texas that haven't been r years. >> more than, since the 1890s. >> yes. he's been building on that. this isn't a one-term shift. looking at the data, democrat latinos, particularly men, 30% of them were frustrated with the direction of the democratic party. they felt under former -- current president biden that the party was weak, not focused on the -- lost its way.
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>> long two-minute warning. >> i didn't leave the party, the party left me. elon musk was talking about that, too, people felt they didn't recognize the democratic party anymore. these working class themes they tested the messaging and resonated in america. >> thank you so much. bring in c"cbs mornings" tony do. >> we've got the my pillow guy, mike lindell. tucker carlson is walking through the crowd. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani. marco rubio.
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as i begin to think about the journey traveled tonight from mar-a-lago to the convention center, you begin to think about the journey traveled in 721 days that donald trump has been on this re-election journey. the day he announced his run for the white house for the unprecedented third consecutive time, the story in the "new york post" was buried on page 26, florida man announces unlikely bid for the white house.o cf1 o at that moment in time, donald trump was isolated at mar-a-lago, twice impeached, voted out of the white house, abandoned by many allies, what a difference the following nearly two years makes. four indictments and felony conviction energized his base. a lot of hats here say i'm voting for the felon, a lot of shirts have the mug shot on the
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front. symbols of a certain kind of resistance for the trump voter. now that hometown newspaper, the "new york post," don deal he defies the odds again. if i had to guess based on what he said election night 2016, then in 2020, two points, he seems to be waiting to come out around 2:30, the time pframe he came out last two cycles. he's a superstitious fellow. the words grand rapids, michigan, were the final ones spoken rally stop wise last three campaigns. additionally, you feel there's going to be a magnanimous moment, not a 2020 moment, talk
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of dominant victories but there's going to be -- are it feels like we might have a moment where we begin to stop being partisans and take an initial tentative step back to being americans as we are here in the wee hours of the day after election day. >> tony, thank you. you'll have reporting bright and early with gayle king on "cbs mornings." and cecilia, you wanted to add to the question about the latino vote. trump is building a new coalition and part is latinos. >> and lesley sanchez said people are going to be excited about that. a lot of people are. a lot of people are very scared tonight. when you look at proposals that donald trump has laid out for a second term with just immigration alone. do it quickly. travel ban 2.0, end birth right citizenship to babies born to
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undocumented parents. use the alien act to disport gang leaders. it's a law not used since world war ii to intern japanese americans in the country. we talked about the mass deportation, but that would involve deporting entire families, including children born in the country. so a lot of people are scared right now. >> now donald trump along with his wife, his vice presidential pick. >> his son barron trump who we rarely see. >> cast his first vote today for his dad. >> going to school here in new york. family gathered. i did hear them also introduce his vice presidential pick,
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i want to thank you all very much. this is great. these are our friends. we have thousands of friends on this incredible movement. this was a movement like nobody's ever seen before. and frankly this was, i believe, the greatest political movement of all time. there's never been anything like this in this country and maybe beyond. and now it's going to reach a new level of importance because we're going to help our country heal. we're going to help our country heal. we have a country that needs help, and it needs help very badly. we're going to fix our borders, we're going to fix everything about our country. we made history for a reason
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tonight, and the reason is going to be just that. we overcame obstacles that nobody thought possible, and it is now clear that we've achieved the most incredible political thing. look what happened, is this crazy? it's a political victory that our country has never seen before, nothing like this. i want to thank the american people for the extraordinary honor of being elected your 47th president, and your 45th president. and every citizen, i will fight for you, for your family and your future. every single day i will be fighting for you, with every breath in my body. i will not rest until we have delivered the strong, safe and
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prosperous america that our children deserve and you deserve. this will truly be the golden age of america. that's what we have to have. this is a magnificent victory for the american people that will allow us to make america great again. and in addition to having won the battleground states of north carolina, i love these places, georgia, pennsylvania, and wisconsin, we are now winning in michigan, arizona, nevada, alaska, which would result in us carrying at least 315 electoral votes. but it's much easier doing what the networks did, or whoever
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called it, because there was no other path. there was no other path to victory. we also have won the popular vote, that was great. incredible. thank you. >> usa usa usa usa usa. >> thank you very much. winning the popular vote was very nice. very nice, i will tell you. great feeling of love. we have a great feeling of love in this very large room, with unbelievable people standing by my side. these people have been incredible. they've made the journey with me, and we're going to make you very happy, very proud of your vote. i hope that you're going to be
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looking back someday and say that was one of the truly important moments of my life when i voted for this group of people, beyond the president, this group of great people. america has given us an unprecedented and powerful mandate. we have taken back control of the senate, wow. and the senate races in montana, nevada, texas, ohio, michigan, wisconsin, the great commonwealth of pennsylvania. we're all one by the maga movement they helped so much. and in those cases, every one of them we worked with the
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senators, they were tough races. the number of victories in the senate was absolutely incredible. and we did telerallies with each one of them. sometimes we did two or three, and it was amazing to look at all of those victories. nobody expected that, nobody. i just wanted to thank you very much for that. and you have some great senators, great new senators, and also looks like we'll be keeping control of the house of representatives. and i want to thank mike johnson, he's doing a terrific job. terrific job. i want to also thank my beautiful wife melania, first lady. who has the number one
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best-selling book in the country. can you believe it? she's done a great job, works very hard. to help people. i just want to thank her. i want to thank my whole family. my amazing children, and they are amazing children. we all think our children are amazing. everybody here thinks their children are amazing. that's a good thing when you think they are. but don, eric, ivanka, tiffany, barron -- thank you all. my father-in-law victor is tremendous and we miss very mch melania's mother. we miss amalia, don't we?
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she would be very happy standing on this stage, would be so proud. she was a great woman that one. beautiful inside and out. she was a great woman. i want to be the first to congratulate our great, now i can say, vice president-elect of the united states, jd vance. and his absolutely remarkable and beautiful wife. he is a feisty guy, isn't he? i said go into the enemy camp, you know that's certain networks. a lot of people would be like r,
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