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she would be very happy standing on this stage, would be so proud. she was a great woman that one. beautiful inside and out. she was a great woman. i want to be the first to congratulate our great, now i can say, vice president-elect of the united states, jd vance. and his absolutely remarkable and beautiful wife. he is a feisty guy, isn't he? i said go into the enemy camp, you know that's certain networks. a lot of people would be like
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sir, do i have to do that. he's like okay, which one, cnn, msdnc? thank you very much. he's the only guy who looks forward to it and goes in and obliterates them. say a couple of words. >> wow. well, mr. president, i appreciate you allowing me to join you on this incredible journey. i thank you for the trust that you placed in me. and i think we just witnessed in the history of the united states of america. under president trump's
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leadership we're never going to stop fighting for you. for your dreams, for the future of your children. and after the greatest political comeback in american history, we're going to lead the greatest economic comeback in american history under donald trump's leadership. >> thank you, very much. he's turned out to be a good choice. i took a little heat at the beginning. but he was -- i knew the brain was a good one, about as good as it gets. and we love the family, we're going to have a great four years and turn our country around, make it something very specia. lost that little -- lost that little -- lost that little thing called special, we have to make it so. it's the greatest country and
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potentially the greatest country in the world by far and right now we're going to just work hard to get all of that back. make it the best its ever been. we can do that. if we had to wait longer, i don't know, it was going bad and going bad fast. we're going to have to seal up those borders and let people come into the country, we want people to come back in, but we have to let them come back in but they have to come in legally. they have to come in legally. let me also express my tremendous precious for susie and chris, the job you did. come, susie, come here, chris, come here chris. susie likes to stay in the back, let me tell you. the ice maiden, we call her. chris, come here chris.
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susie likes to stay in the background. she's not in the background. >> this was unexpected, but just want to thank president trump for this journey. it was a great one. he's a hell of a candidate and going to be a hell of a great 47th president. this team we had, the best team, of course even my boss, susie wiles, the best. thank you. >> thank you. and thank you, susie. look she's shy. never seen her be shy before. they've been -- they're great. everybody up here is great, everybody up here is very special. but the trump -- who did you say? oh, let me tell you, we have a new star, a star is born, elon.
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he's an amazing guy. we were sitting together tonight. he spent two weeks in philadelphia, different parts of pennsylvania. campaigning. he sent the rocket up two weeks ago, i saw that rocket, i saw it coming down, i saw it, when it left, beautiful, shiny white. when it came down didn't look pretty, going 10,000 miles an hour and burning like hell. i said what happened to the paint job. he said never made a paint that can withstand that kind of heat. but i saw it come down, turn around. 22 stories tall by the way, it's big. it came down and down, you saw all that fire burning. only elon could do this, must be elon. told the story last night, i had a man on the phone, i had the screen muted, no sound, talking
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to very important man who happens to be here, that very important guy, one of the most important people in i would say the country actually, but you know, i was president and now it looks like i was going to be maybe president again, so i figured i could ask him to hold. so i asked him to hold, especially because you're going to be president again, they hold. i took the phone down and seeing this crazy thing coming down, looks like it's going to crash into the gantry. oh, no, do you mind holding for a couple? i thought it was a space age movie or something. put the phone down, didn't pick it up for 45 minutes and he was holding. but this spaceship came down, i saw those engines firing, it looked like it was over, going to smash. then i saw the fire pour out from the left side and put it
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straight, and it came down so gently, then it wrapped those arms around it and held it, just like you hold your baby at night. your little baby. it was a beautiful thing to see. i called elon and said, elon, was that you. he said, yes, it was. i said who else can do that, russia? no. china? no. can the united states do it? other than you? no. nobody can do that. i said that's why i love you, elon. that's great. and when we had the tragic hurricane helene and hit north carolina, they were devastated. water as big as we've ever seen, it built lakes out of nothing, fields became lakes, and the danger was unbelievable, and the people from north carolina came to me, said would it be possible, at all possible for you to speak to elon musk.
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we need star link. what's star link? it's a form of communication. i called elon. i'll tell you what, it was dangerous, people dying, no communication, all the wires were down. called elon musk. you have star link, is that right? yes what the hell is it? communication system that's really good. elon, they need it badly in north carolina, can you get it? he had it there so fast it was incredible. it was great, he saved a lot of lives. a character, special guy and super genius. we have to protect our geniuses, we don't have that many of them. the u.s. open champion, fantastic. slightly longer hits the ball than me, bryson dechambeau is up
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here somewhere. what happened to bryson? where is he? bryson. oh, he was shy. he's hitting balls? oh, he's on the way. hitting balls. look at him. he had a great -- got a great career going. great u.s. open, bryson. fantastic job. and we also have a man, dana white, who has done some -- he's a tough guy. so dana started ufc, and came to me, do you mind if i use your -- nobody wanted to give him a risk
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because it's a rough sport. a little rough. i helped him out a little bit, and i went and said this is the roughest sport i've ever seen, but i began to like it. he loved it. nobody's done a better job in sports. you know, he's a very motivational guy, what he does. gets fighters, and they really go at it. it's become one of the most successful sports enterprises anywhere any time. doing so well. would like dana to say a couple of words because people love to hear from him. >> nobody deserves this more than him and than his family does. this is what happens when the machine comes after you. what you've seen the last several years, this is what it looks like. couldn't stop him. he keeps going forward, he doesn't quit. he's the most resilient, hardworking man i've ever met.
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his family are incredible people. this is karma, he deserves this. they deserve it as a family. i want to thank some people real quick. aidan ross, theo vaughn, with the boys and last but not least, mighty and powerful joe rogan. thank you, america. thank. have a good night. >> that is a piece of work. he's an amazing -- really an amazing guy. but i mostly want to thank the millions of hardworking americans who have been the heart and soul of this great movement. today you showed up in record numbers to deliver a victory like probably no other. this was something special. and we're going to pay you back.
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we're going to do the best job, we're going to turn it around. it's got to be turned around and fast. we're going to do it every way, so many ways. every way. this will forever be remembered as the day the american people regained control of their country. so i just want to say on behalf of this great group of hardworking people, fantastic people, we can add a few names like robert f. kennedy jr. he's going to help make america healthy again. >> bobby, bobby, bobby! >> he's a great guy, really means it.
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wants to do some things and we're going to let him go to it. i just said, bobby, leave the oil to me. we have more liquid gold, oil and gas, than any country in the world. more than saudi arabia, more than russia. bobby, stay away from the liquid gold. other than that, go have a good time, bobby. we're going to be paying down debt, reducing taxes, we can do things nobody else can do. nobody else will be able to do it. china doesn't have what we have. nobody has what we have. we have the greatest people also. maybe that's the most important thing. this campaign has been so historic in so many ways. we've built the biggest, broadest, most unified coalition. they've never seen anything like it in all of american history, young and old, men and women, rural and urban.
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we had them all helping us tonight. i was looking at it, watching it, they had great analysis of the people that voted for us. nobody's ever seen anything like that. they came from all corners, union, nonunion, african american, hispanic american, asian american, arab-american. muslim american, we had everyone. history assignment, uniting citizens of all backgrounds around a common core of common sense. we're the party of common sense. we want to have borders, security, things be good and safe. we want good education. want a strong and powerful military and ideally we don't have to use it. we had no wars, four years, except we defeated isis in record time. but we had no wars.
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they said he will start a war. i'm not going to start a war, i'm going to stop wars. but this is also a massive victory for democracy and freedom. we're going to unlock america's glorious destiny, achieve the most incredible future for our people. yesterday as i stood at my last stop on the campaign trail -- never be doing a rally again, do you believe it? i think we've done 900 rallies approximately. can you imagine? 900, 9 w01, something, a lot of rallies. everybody was sad. many people, i said this is our last rally but now we're going on to something far more important. the rallies were used for us to be put in this position to really help our country. that's what we're going to do. we're going to make our country better than it's ever been.
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many people have told me that god spared my life for a reason. that reason was to save our country and restore america to greatness. and now we're going to fulfill that mission together. we're going to fulfill that mic mission. the task will not be easy but i will bring every ounce of energy, spirit and fight i have in my soul to the job you've entrusted to me. this is a great job, there's no job like this. this is the most important job in the world. just as i did in my first term, we had a great, great first term. i will govern by a simple motto, promises made, promises kept. we're going to keep our
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promises. nothing will stop me from keeping my word to you, the people. we will make america safe, strong, prosperous, powerful and free again. i'm asking every citizen across our land to join me in this noble and righteous endeavor. that's what it is. it's time to put the divisions of the past four years behind us. it's time to unite, and we're going to try, we're going to try. we have to try. it's going to happen. success will bring us together. i've seen that. i saw that in the first term when we became more and more successful. people started coming together. success is going to bring us together, and we are going to start by all putting america first. we have to put our country first for at least a period of time. we have to fix it. together we can truly make america great again for all americans. i want to just tell you what a great honor this is, i want to
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thank you. i will not let you down. america's future will be bigger, better, bolder, richer, safer and stronger than it has ever been before. god bless you and god bless america. thank you very much. thank you very much. >> there you see former president donald trump with his family and friends on stage addressing supporters in west palm beach. talking about unifying the country and congratulating his campaign managers and his whole team. it should be noted, cbs news as not yet projected the 2024 presidential contest. we have him four electoral votes shy of winning the presidency.
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there are still votes being counted. john. >> jd vance said it's the greatest political comeback in the history of united states. completely, totally. and not just a comeback by a squeaker. a comeback where he has helped his party and lots of candidates win tonight. where all of his impulses -- great question with donald trump is will the office, his aides, traditions and the courts check his impulses. his impulses have not been checked, and the victory is a ratification of his impulses. so this is a new -- so that -- >> i know, but why should people check his impulses? it seemed to have worked for him. i don't see how he changes now. >> no. right. just saying this is the
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beginning of a different kind of -- as bob was saying earlier, entirely different kind of presidency. >> like we've never seen. >> and a new vice presidential candidate in jd vance. the last one, mike pence did at times moderate him, did so to his own peril. that's why he wasn't the running mate because he stood up to him on january 6th. for jd vance, two years in the senate, doesn't have a large legis legislative background to speak of. he will be one of the youngest vice presidents in history. he turned 40 during the course of this campaign. a young family. and when we're talking about remaking the republican party, i think jd vance in many ways represents the full turning of that page. he's pro union, antibig
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technology, talking about a number of things that aren't necessarily the typical republican platform. people voting for better for my taxes, you listen to the things jd vance says, they're not consistent with a typical republican agenda on many things. on the foreign policy front, he's clearly about isolationism. >> scott, what does this mean for the many criminal cases that donald trump is facing? >> he remains charged with federal felonies for conspiracy alleged to overturn the 2020 election results. he's said publicly he would fire the special counsel jack smith within seconds of taking the oath of office. so that case is in a fragile state. there's no trial or hearing in that case. trump is among the january 6th
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defendant overall population. 1,500 people are charged with the riot at the u.s. capitol in the effort to overturn the 2020 election. donald trump has never answered the questions point blank. would he pardon all 1,500 plus of those defendants? he's promised pardons but never said for everybody or just some. or if he would have the justice department shut down the prosecutions. there are still hundreds of defendants yet to have a plea agreement or yet to go to trial. new arrests occurred the past few days, people were in escour tuesday, and more scheduled today in connection with january 6th. the prospect of them going to trial may have just diminished through the course of the past 24 hours. what's more, the outlook for those in prison, 600 plus have
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served time or are serving time now, may have changed over the course of this evening. >> scott, thank you. major at the data desk for an update. >> wisconsin, so wisconsin, ten electoral votes. we've leaned trump, others have called it, why haven't we? there's a segment outstanding we expect in the next 10 to 15 minutes we believe will give clarity. here's the model here. the ranges in wisconsin, doesn't look promising for her to put it mildly. even more clear visually. 71% of the outstanding vote, we project she will get 54% of it. we're waiting for the last bank of voters before we give it to trump at the data desk.
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but just have the audience look at wisconsin compared to 2020. look at the map, 2024. when i press this button, 2020, you will not see a huge coloration difference september the shading. watch the shading. red areas a little redder, blue areas slightly less blue. intensity of the trump vote became more apparent and harris underperformed compared to joe biden. here's 20 t24, early this morni, this is four years ago. evident in places like milwaukee. you can see that the vice president is trailing joe biden in milwaukee. hugely important part of any democratic victory in wisconsin. running behind in dane county, madison, every county around, also trailing. and since we're talking about a remade republican party, go to
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fond dou lac, why? the home of the republican party. and donald trump overperforming. if it's a remade republican party and they trace roots to here, trump is doing better than four years ago. >> major, thank you for that. as we see. it has been a successful night for donald trump and the republican party. winning decisively in a number of battleground states and the senate, right? >> yes. republicans leading in pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin and nevada's senate races. nevada is especially notable. sam brown taking on incumbent democrat jackie rozen, was not expected to but appearing to. house remains too close to call. likely evenly divided again. we should point out, we have not
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heard anything from any democrat working on the harris campaign, at the white house, anywhere else disputing what we're seeing. nobody has stopped the momentum that's -- there's no question this is happening. democrats up and down the ballot understand what is unfolding is legit. we've not heard from the harris campaign whether she's made a call to the former president, president-elect possibly, or if she plans to. there's nothing on the white house schedule for the president but national security briefin that now would include urgent matters as the allies around the world contact them. nobody is disputing what is happening tonight. >> a very big night for donald trump and the republican party. it looks like he's headed toward re-election. he just spoke to reporters in florida, declaring victory.
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his vice president calling it the greatest comeback in history. in the race to 270 electoral votes and the white house, donald trump has received 266 electoral votes. kamala harris, 216. you can see the white states that cbs news has not projected. some states we are awaiting results from are wisconsin, cbs news rates it lean republican. michigan, arizona, nevada are all toss-ups. and cbs news at this hour projects kamala harris will win minnesota, home to her running mate, governor tim walz. cbs news projects that harris w wins new jersey. several states voted on reproductive rights this election. margaret brennan has an update on those. on the ballot in ten states. >> that's right. and we led the evening off talking about what a big bet
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this was for democrats who believed this would also help drive up more voters to the polls than they would if it hadn't been there, underlining enthusiasm for the top of the ticket. looking straight up at referendums, in florida, high benchmark for passage, failed there, effort to expand and enshrine in the constitution protection for access to abortion. that means the current law stands. it will be restricted after six weeks, after 15 weeks if you're raped. other measures there, in colorado, not surprising, it did pass. in new york state there was a broad referendum on a number of issues, including putting in the constitution the right to an abortion. that did pass. we have seen some lean yeses. missouri, that's significant.
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it's a significant change from the existing law there. abortion is currently illegal in the state of missouri, no exceptions for rape and incest. this is a significant change. you see yes vote nearly 52%. will enshrine reproductive rights in the constitution and the general assembly will be able to regulate abortion after viability. that's the line that roe vs. wade was defined by. in arizona, likely to pass, yes there. not a huge change in terms of policy. abortion has been legal and protected, but we spent so much time talking about what happened in that state, snap back to a civil war era law. that's not been the law of the state for some time since then, but now it will be in the constitution, right to abortion, limit of state's ability to interfere. they had a high benchmark, 52%, but nearly 63% of the vote.
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>> if there were a national abortion ban passed at 15 weeks, what would it mean in arizona if they had 24 weeks? >> federal law would supersede the state. you presume. however, the republican ticket, two candidates haven't been clear on the campaign trail about what they actually want to do with this. jd vance, before he was vice presidential candidate said he would like a national, federal, minimum standard. 15 weeks was what senator lindsey graham put forward. critics would have said that's too restrictive. their argument is it's permissive. average abortion is performed in that window of time. >> but donald trump said let the states figure it out. >> except for today. he cast a vote in florida that said no to the ballot initiative. means he voted for something
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that restricts abortion access after six weeks. asked by reporters, explain the vote. he said stop asking me about that. which has been the approach. stop asking me about that. there was concern it could hurt republicans. democrats hoped it would help them and we just didn't see that in the way that the vice president calculated. she put that front and center in this campaign, talking about it so much. and now you could, i'm sure, john, you can argue another way. look at the exit polls, harris voters did say that was at times their second most important issue, first being the state of democracy. >> right, but didn't drive their vote. i'm still struck by her underperformance with women relative to -- the traditional way of thinking about politics you would think would help her
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with women. given the way donald trump has behaved and things he's said. >> why is the senate candidate in arizona doing so well? >> ruben gallego started by reminding them he is a marine veteran. >> he was running against lake. >> first against sinema. and found out she had no hope of running. kerry lake, big election denier. gallego is going to be a big lesson to his party how to run a race that wins latino male support. lot of what he's been doing, the harris campaign bandwagoned on to, trying to they will them do this from the beginning. rodeos, soccer matches. >> we need to check in with kris
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van cleave. he has an update. >> reporter: if i can build on margaret, we were talking to the david swiker campaign, he's pro-life and was hammered on attack ads. were they worried about losing pro-choice republicans, and his team said no, having abortion on the ballot allowed them to vote their conscience and then vote their party. that may be playing out with more of the votes. so many people vote by mail in arizona that while we will get the total number of people who voted at the polls today, maricopa county, ounty, 250,000. there are hundreds of thousands uncounted ballots, many of which were dropped off today at the polls. that's going to take several days to go through the signature
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verification and it's taking longer than years past because most counties have a two page ballot. it slows the process down a little bit. any of the races that are particularly close could take days. if not 10 to 13 days even to know who won t, to have all the votes counted. >> lilia luciano is in las vegas, nevada. good evening. >> reporter: good evening, in nevada, what just ended was a big celebration. we're at a viewing party for the republican party and trump campaign. i've been hearing from voters for many days now that the issues that really affect them are economic related. although there's a question on the ballot here with more than 60% of the vote to enshrine the
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right to abortion. i've heard from women on both sides voting on those issues. one told me it's conservative values, although she is a latina and woman, woman, it's the conse values of former president donald trump that drove her to the polls. we heard from immigrants who became citizens and voted for trump because they believe in his harsher policies at the border. things we heard most is price of groceries. here it's one of the most expensive, fastest rising rents, highest unemployment in the country. what we're seeing now, this race hasn't been called, many more votes will be counted. until saturday, mail-in ballots that come in before saturday will still be counted if they're postmarked today. many votes have to go through a
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curing process, could take all the way to november 12th. but the numbers we're seeing, very surprising race is that of sam brown, who still has a chance to unseat senator jacky rosen. he's a purple heart recipient, told me he's an outsider, everyday man, he and his wife are veterans and don't always necessarily align with former president trump. in fact he got trump's endorsement late in the race, but hopes to represent if he does win the senate seat the every person in the state of nevada. this party was very lively until a few minutes ago. there's a great deal of enthusiasm from republican voters at this campaign party. >> lilia, thank you. also bring in david becker, election law contributor.
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what do you expect in the days ahead? >> to follow up on the reporting from lilia and kris. we're hearing from maricopa county there's likely 650,000 to 800,000 ballots being processed, will take days. might be margins there to be made up. in nevada, mail ballots came in that need to be processed. there's around 30,000 give or take mail ballots that had a problem and could be cured. they have up to the 12th. depending how narrow the margins, we might be waiting a few days in nevada and arizona as well. >> david becker, thank you. we'll be right back.
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and donald trump has already declared victory. let's bring in robert costa, election and campaign correspondent. what will another term with donald trump in office look like? >> i've been speaking to sources, spoke to him earlier today at length, how he envisions his presidency, which is on the horizon if the numbers pan out for him. you see in donald trump somebody totally different than in 2016 how he perceives his own presidency. why? because he no longer has to run for re-election. once he enters the white house again in 2025, should he win, he is going to on foreign policy and domestic policy not be constrained by the proctspect o not having to seek out support of voters again. he has a full grasp of executive power. you'll see him push immediately for a deal with russia's war with ukraine. you'll see him try to reshape
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american foreign policy in tariffs and economic policy, the relationship with nato, open for discussion. domestic policy, expansion of the tax cuts to make sure business community stays in line. you could see khan from the federal trade commission pushed out. she's been filing suit against major corporations to constrain the tech market's size and power. and trump wants to focus on the border, and we could see military force used. as others have reported at cbs news. most importantly, what we see is an executive branch used by trump to imprint policy in his image and likeness. robert f. kennedy jr., someone who has been a progressive
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figure in this country for decades, now will have a real hand on the steering wheel for health policy in this country. >> donald trump says he will let rfk jr. do what he wants with women's health care. >> and he's opposed vaccine mandates, don't have time to get into every position of mr. kennedy. but it's a coalition that's not traditional conservative coalition. with abortion rights, conservatives might be frustrated how trump took the position on abortion, but talking to my sources in the evangelical, catholic and jewish community, tonight they all believe they will have a seat at the table with trump. they believe he will give them a full hearing regardless of what he said during the campaign, to hear how they want to overhaul social and economic and foreign policy. >> you heard him tonight --
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>> who will be donald trump's chief of staff? >> leading candidate at the moment is susie wiles, someone who has become a confident. trump likes she's low key. tonight she didn't want to speak. her partner said a few words. i'm told he's not interested in being chief of staff. could have someone from the business community. a lot of leaders are angling for positions, but trump essentially wants to be his own chief of staff. kevin mccarthy's name has been mentioned but he's not interested in coming into that role, i'm told. >> we heard him tonight say -- >> chief of staff is a dangerous thing -- jimmy carter tried it, disaster. >> a doctor who is his own patient, lawyer who is his own client is a fool. you heard him say promises made,
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promises kept. maya angelou used to say when people show you who they are, believe them the first time. do we have any reason to believe he's not going to do what he says he's going to do? >> and more. former president trump believes he's not just won an election but affirmed a movement in this country. i think back -- democrats are going to have a moment for the next four years they think about their future. i remember sitting over breakfast with bernie sanders ten years ago. he told me the future of this country would come down to the issue of class. class more than anything. how people feel economic pain. he said it's either the democrats or republicans who speak to the economic pain people feel in this country. he still believes, based on my reporting, he would have won against trump in 2016. president biden believes he
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would have beat trump because they believe they speak to the economic thing. biden wins in 2020 with a similar coalition to speak to working people. the question for democrats, can they win back some of these people? might not be appealing to liz cheney republicans but those who like senator bernie sanders. we encounter people in this country who don't see themselves as political but feel pain about the future of their well-being, families and opportunity. >> but kamala harris always talked about the working class and middle class. >> but it was a compressed campaign. >> do they not believe her? >> it's not they didn't believe her. many voters feel they didn't know her in terms of speaking to their grievances, respected her as vice president of the united states but she was relatively low profile working with president biden, and running from august to now is not easy
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even as a perfect politician with a perfect campaign. >> we've not seen delay in world leaders coming out to congratulate donald trump even though he's short of the votes. two of his biggest fans, hungary's prime minister, one of the most problematic members of nato who puts his body between yes votes for ukraine. now the head of a very far right wing government in israel, the most far right in israel's existence, benjamin netanyahu celebrating him. somebody who has been calling donald trump as the president in waiting for months, making calculations. we know and have reported about his plans for the future of the wars he's waging, based on the outcome of what happened tonight. >> and other leaders have been
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speaking with donald trump privately, have visited him, haven't been reported publicly. but many have maintained close relationships with him. >> that's right, leaders in the gulf and europe as well. prime minister of poland was deployed by allies to try to get him to change his position on ukraine, very concerned that the vice president he chose would affirm an isolationist view. and perhaps wind in the sails of vladimir putin despite him losing soldiers on the battlefield. >> two of the items in the trump agenda. tariffs. 40% of the american economy is trade related. even if trump doesn't do the full meg illa, a plan for massie disruption of 40% of the economy or more.
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then m gregimmigration. you want to build new housing? who does that building? the people that donald trump wants to deport. and the upheaval he's promising, we've been talking about the voters who feel like he understands them and will fight for them. but the policies he's advocating for, how though match up to the expectations will be fascinating to watch. >> i want to continue but we have to squeeze in a quick break. coming up, where the race stands. we'll be right back.
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i'm at the cbs broadcast center in new york with coverage of cbs news, america decides. donald trump is claiming victory as he nears the 270 electoral votes needed to become the nation's 47th president. he spoke to his followers on stage surrounded by family. here's some of that. >> i would like to thank the american people for being elected your 47th and 45th president. and every citizen, i will fight for you, for your family and your future. every single day i will be
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fighting for you, with every breath in my body. i will not rest until we have delivered the strong, safe and prosperous america that our children deserve and you deserve. this will truly be the golden age of america. that's what we have to have. this is a magnificent victory for the american people that will allow us to make america great again. and in addition to having won the battleground states of north carolina, i love these places, georgia, pennsylvania, and wisconsin, we are now winning in michigan, arizona, nevada, alaska, which would result in us carrying at least 315 electoral votes. but it's much easier doing what
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the networks did, or whoever called it, because there was no other path. there was no other path to victory. we also have won the popular vote, that was great. incredible. >> mr. trump is expected to have a full grasp of power with republicans projected to take hold of the senate. the house has not been called. thanks for staying with us, you're watching cbs news, america decides.
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election 2024. it is 3:30 a.m. in the east, 12:30 in the west. we have been on air nine hours straight covering this election, a very big night for donald trump and the republican party. the former president appears to be headed for re-election. he declared victory in the past hour in a speech to supporters in florida. and in the race to 270 electoral votes, he has 266, kamala harris has 218. we're just waiting for some more votes to come in before calling the remainder of the states. we want to go behind the numbers to see how trump put together this coalition. john dickerson and his team have been looking at exit polls. >> picked out three things. there's a lot of things, we'll have plenty of tasdays to talk about it. gender gap, vote for president
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among women. vice president, 54%, and donald trump, 44%. kamala harris got ten points more, but joe biden got 15 points more. this is a post roe going away, post the conviction of donald trump. >> almost inexplicable. >> it's going to require a lot of -- it will be an interesting conversation. remember in 2020, the number of women who were turned off by donald trump. they have in some measure come back. he's done better with them. that's not just an area where the vice president didn't perform, but he performed better. his liabilities he didn't fix were not liabilities. it's an affirmation of his gut instincts which will matter when he's in office following those gut instincts and listening to no one else. white, noncollege. this is a group we knew donald
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trump would win. won it handily, 31 points better than kamala harris. this is the heart of the trump coalition. the people he said his presidency will be aimed towards. he did as strongly with them to use a donald trump word as he needed to. he turned out his. kamala harris didn't turn out her important speaker. he turned out his. latino voters, this is a stand-in for the growth that -- >> 45%. >> exactly. 45% for donald trump, he got 32% in 2020. >> and before that, george w. bush had the high water mark at 40%. >> and trump did well with african americans, better than a republican has done before, particularly with african american men. this is the new coalition we're talking about that emerged out of his victory tonight. and not just him, senate and
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house candidates. people talk about a re-alignment, these are elements. >> what makes up the re-alignment in the republican party? >> we've been told to win the white house, democrats would have to hit 60% among latinos. they were not able to. and it's economic concerns. these people don't want to be talked to as minorities but as americans who worry about the bottom line and who are concerned about their jobs and kids' future. i remember a guy i met in phoenix who runs a hot dog stand who said all sorts of things, he didn't like former president trump's rhetoric, but i don't know if i can vote for her. >> why? >> he said all these years democrats have asked for my vote, said she wthey were going to work on immigration and help
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my life, i tried to contact him. i suspect he voted donald trump. >> if you talk to fervent trump supporters, in addition to liking his economic policies, and his bravado or machismo, whatever you call it, but they don't like the "woke" policies of the democratic party. >> the fact they couldn't win women, hold on to their coalition, there's going to be a reckoning. >> what is the lesson for the democratic party, from 2016 to 2024? >> i mean -- >> identity politics. but i will say, kamala harris really shifted the way she campaigned for latinos. >> just struck me in the minute, as soon as i said that, i had forgotten, if you look at how
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much money the republicans spent on that issue about transgender -- >> yes. >> did that weigh with women or noncollege educated? >> with latinos, one of the few ads in spanish was on this issue. that sells. >> although -- >> and football a lot. >> bad as harris' numbers are in other areas, asked are her views too extreme, only 46% said yes, 51% said no. trump, 55% said yes, 43% no. thing is for trump, some of his voters who would say extreme is fine. can i just say one other dog that didn't bark, republicans for harris. kamala harr
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kamala harris campaigned with liz cheney, all the republicans that were going to come over -- >> she brought them to pennsylvania, bucks county. >> i was on stage with her. >> i remember that. >> you got to understand the traditional republican in bucks county. i grew up watching these people. they vote with their wallet. economically driven. they have business jobs, suburban office parks in princeton, new jersey, go on transit. >> bring bagels back for the weekend. >> toasted with cream cheese, maybe a pork roll. they care about the eagles and their financial interests and their communities. but they're republicans because they want to pay lower taxes. they move to bucks county not to philadelphia, the city, or new york, because they want to have a good standard of living
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and pay lower taxes. they want not to spend a lot of money. >> but rob, where was that secret women republican vote we kept hearing about. say one thing to their friends and spouses but get in the booth and make another decision? what happened to them? >> i never saw it. >> never thought it was a thing? >> that's why harris was so small. >> i never saw it. only won women by ten points. one of the biggest miscalculations. could have been spending time -- there are mine hbcus in north carolina, how many she visited, one. imagine doing that instead of hanging out with liz cheney in the midwest. could have been a big story. should she have doubled down on the base? could they tell you what the base is? if the strategy is double down on the base, and harris'
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campaign could not tell you who it is right now. >> i said this to gayle on your show yesterday, the fundamentals of the race have always favored donald trump. two-thirds of the republican party said the country is headed in the wrong direction. when that's the case, they throw out the incumbents, that's the biden/harris administration. >> throughout this, our polling has been on the money to say it will be the economy, the economy, the economy. economy, inflation, actually. not just economy. and that would be such a driving force. and the border. and he had warned us for months that the momentum the democrats thought they were getting off of abortion had tapped out weeks ago. they weren't seeing that. yet we heard from the harris campaign no. we also heard no, you are wrong when you see that the support has tapped out on the issue of the state of democracy.
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it was late in the campaign they transitioned back to. that was the closing argument alongside liz cheney. they were reading different signals. >> the democracy point, i'll show self-awareness here. i spent a year of my life digging into january 6th. it was a very serious moment in american history, yet a president of the united states worked to pressure his party and vice president to overturn the election. working with bob woodward, we reported the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff believed president trump was in serious mental decline and in threat of misusing the military in a way comparable to nixon but far worse in the eyes of others. january 6th for those who have studied it, was an explosion in american democracy. but as a reporter, even if i found it to be serious based on
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reporting, when i was on the campaign trail in 2024 and 2022, talking to republican, centrist and some democratic voters although they had a different view, many voters did not process january 6, 2021, as a grave moment in american dross. bec democracy. and because of that, a lot of republican voters are not turning on the character and conduct question. >> how is that possible when you look at the pictures? he characterized it as a protest of love and patriots, yet you're right when you say that is not how people saw that. how is that possible? >> it's possible because many people amplify trump's point of view. >> they thread the needle, separating donald trump from the people who carried out the violence. that's what you hear mainstream republicans say.
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prosecute those who break the law. >> what flows from that? one of the things we have heard about people surrounding donald trump is the idea of retribution. he's talked about retribution, there's been a so-called secretary of retribution, all of those who have wronged donald trump will face retribution, punishment, whatever it may be from the former president, future president, and the white house. how will the justice department be changed and perhaps weaponized against those enemies? >> i was just pulling some of the things he said in the last few months, perhaps even the least threatening. revoking broadcast licenses for broadcast networks, including this one, going after what he calls the enemy within, his political rivals, biden, pelosi, the entire quote biden crime family. he said he would fire special
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counsel jack smith within seconds and called for televised military tribunal of liz cheney. you questioned whether the checks would keep him in check. is there anyone left around him to impose checks that john kelly and mark milleys are gone, the cecks before. >> all of the list of retributions things he will perhaps not get to not because he's checked but because he doesn't want to follow through. some are hard to do. he may have other things to do. >> and there's a lot of bluster. >> signal sending, too. but is the liz cheney wing of the party even big enough to fit on an airport shuttle bus? does it exist anymore? do we need a new language to talk about that portion of the republican party?
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>> the shuttle busses have at least 14 seats. airport shuttle bus. are there 14 seats. >> the way we think about the shape of the republican party, how small that is, what role it plays. >> it's not even about whether we should rethink, we are being forced to rethink. >> so what do we think? >> almost like if you talked about the republican party today in terms of its positioning and went back to theodore roosevelt or lincoln, or a democrat talking about john f. kennedy. the republican party of mitt romney is not -- and george h.w. bush and george w. bush, is not the republican party of donald trump. donald trump has stolen issues from the democrats -- trade, manufacturing, this foreign policy approach, the opposite of a muscular interventionist
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approach. >> isolationist policy. >> he would put it america first, echo of charles lindbergh. a total overhaul of the the republican party. nominee three times, that's a hammer against the head politically speaking. they're banging the point it's not romney, cheney or bush's party. we've covered this. >> is it dead dead? >> this is like monty python. >> the voters we've covered believe that party is dead and don't want to support it anymore. >> this is an excellent conversation for a podcast. when we return, more from our amazing team. you're watching cbs news, america decides.
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it's time to put the divisions of the past four years behind us. it's time to unite, and we're going to try, we're going to try. we have to try. it's going to happen. success will bring us together. i've seen that. >> should. >> donald trump in his -- giving his remarks there in west palm beach earlier tonight, and
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declaring victory. our cbs news data desk has a race update. nevada is lean republican. that is the seventh of the battleground states, which was the last to close. and that is lean republican. there's also a key senate race in nevada that i would love to see what those numbers are now. it could result -- there we see. sam brown, veteran and west point graduate, who was injured and is running for the united states senate, spoke at the republican national convention in a very tight contest there against jacky rosen. major. >> nevada, why we've created lean trump designation. the model now shows as you can see at home, a very, very narrow band, almost impossible, but don't have enough vote in to
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make an absolute declaration. but the needs of kamala harris in nevada are pronounced. 66% of the outstanding vote we estimate she needs. and you can see the sizeable gap here. this is a lean nevada moving very much in the for trump, confirmed category. just waiting for a little bit more vote to come in for clarity. senate race, where things are, statewide. the needs for jacky rosen, 49% of the outstanding and we project 35% based on our estimates. right now, sam brown, the challenger, has the edge in the senate race. that would be a significant pickup for republicans, and that's putting it mildly. >> interesting to see that contest there in nevada. all right, the latest in arizona? >> arizona is as we have, kris
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van cleave has talked about it, david becker reinforced it. just slight tick-ups, we have more in. get back to president. 48% for the vice president, 50% for former president trump. to the outstanding votes. maricopa county, how much is outstanding? a million. pima county with tucson, 260,000, that's why we don't have enough. clear that, go to the model. what's the model in arizona? a wide range could go lots of directions. we haven't had a call but we have a needs based thing for the vice president in arizona. 52%. we have her at 50%. again, that is not trending well for the vice president. it hasn't been for the last hour or so. the vote is just trickling in, we don't have a substantial alteration in the projection for
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arizona, but it is not looking well. and arizona tends to trend off of nevada. results in nevada certainly do not look good for the vice president. arizona beginning to trend ever so slightly in the negative direction for the vice president as well. >> major, what battleground state looks good for kamala harris tonight? i know. thinking through them. >> no. there is no really good answer for that right now. even michigan, which the theoretically looks okay. 66%, 53%, that's sort of in the ballpark, nothing looks that good for toss-up or lean states. wisconsin, needs 78%. 62% is our estimate. i mean it just doesn't look that great. pennsylvania's already gone. arizona, i've worked through
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arizona, nevada, just went through wisconsin and michigan. they're in a theoretical range, only theoretical. there's no uncalled state that formed the background of the uncalled battle grounds that look positive or slightly positive for the vice president at this hour. only one that category is arizona. >> truly remarkable, looks like a sweeping victory for donald trump and certainly he will claim a mandate from the results tonight. cbs news political contributor joel payne. your numbers on the soul searching going on in the democratic party? >> i'll get to that, but back to major, the states, nevada in particular, looking at the none of the above vote, looks like the senate race could have a real impact. i believe it's 2-2.5% of the
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vote. in a state like nevada, you can do none of the above. that's something to watch and track there. also just the impact of third parties. it was a big discussion earlier in this cycle. i think we got to count more votes, see how that comes out, but talked to folks on the ground who said in dearborn, jill stein appears to have shown up strongly. she had an impact on the 2016 race, she's had some impact in 2024, whether it's determinative in final winners and losers, we'll see. but wanted to also just remind us of the impact of third parties in the cycle as well. >> excellent point, joel payne, thank you. just to remind everyone, donald trump appeared before many of his supporters in west palm beach earlier tonight, promising to fix everything in his word.
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he praised his supporters as the quote greatest political movement all time. he spoke after he was projected the winner in the state of pennsylvania, that crucial battleground state, the biggest electoral prize of the night with its 19 electoral votes. also the projected winner in north carolina and georgia, and doing well in the other swing states tonight. we have not heard from the vice president tonight. her campaign, her cochair appeared before supporters at her alma mater, howard university, earlier, said they would not hear from the vice president. it is expected we could hear from her later today. let's talk about the results we're seeing behind the numbers with the exit polls, john. >> where vice president harris did not do well. part of the democratic coalition. you have to hold yours, eat into the other.
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democratic coalition in three areas she did not do well. latino voters. in 2020 joe biden got 65%. vice president got 53%. young voters, joe biden got 60% of young voters in 2020, kamala harris got 55%. and then with women, talked about it. 57% of the female vote awhat joe biden got in 2020, and in 2024, harris got only 54% of that vote. look quickly at the republican coalition, where trump held support. conservative voters, he did even better than he had done in 2020, up at 89%. white evangelicals, doing even better than before. and white no college, tiny bit worse but not really even. that would be considered flat.
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election night coverage. we're still on the air early this morning because we are waiting for a vote count that could put donald trump over the top. want to go to scott mcfarland who has an update on some of the republican congressmen who voted to impeach trump back in 2021. >> there were ten u.s. house republicans who voted to impeach donald trump after january 6 and that second impeachment. eight of them were purged out of the conference long ago, liz cheney being one of them. they lost primaries or simply retired or moved on to other things. there were two remaining, and they're in the bottom row. dan knewnewhouse and he is up f reelection. they are the remaining impeachment votes against donald trump. it's a quirky house for dan newhouse, it's republican on republican. and trump very vocally endorsed
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the challenger. david valadao is in that area where it will take days before we get a sense as to where that vote's going, too early to get a projection, but valadao has found himself to be resilient in the trump era. >> you're pointing that out to show how much of a stranglehold trump has on the republican party or a chokehold. >> these are the dissenters. and dan newhouse has softened his position on that impeachment vote. and if he survives, there's no indication about whether he will reaffi reaffirm his position on january 6. >> the democratic party, if we're trying to figure out how we respond to what we've learned about the electorate and our place in it, first of all you have to figure out what the electorate is now because you've lost some of your constituency. secondly, when you attack donald trump in the future, say, as bob was talking about earlier,
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january 6, if that turned out to be what is the clearest case of malfeasance as a president, if that didn't work politically, what do you base your arguments on when you're criticizing donald trump going forward? and do you have to worry, you know,ki say that donald trump is bre breaking his oath and all these things, is that going to hurt me politically or is anybody going to listen? if you're not making those arguments as a democrat, because you don't think it's going to be useful, does that remove -- >> but haven't the voters spoken? because the center of kamala harris' argument was that he is unchecked, unhinged, dangerous as a president and as his former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff called him a fascist or close to a fascist. that argument was made pretty forcefully and the voters tonight have said that's not a
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concern. >> they used the footage in their campaign ads, not just against trump but other republicans. they did not successfully sur mount. if it has been a referendum, it has been a referendum on january 6 and the american public has made its voice heard. >> the system is supposed to be designed on things that are really top shelf, things like protecting the constitution, the voice of the voters is informative but shouldn't rule the day on everything. that's the way it's supposed to be designed. we've gotten well away from that, but i guess my argument is that for democrats, they're more likely to say that the people have spoken and we're going to have to find a new argument and therefore make fewer norm-based values-based constitution-based arguments. >> that's why the judicial branch is separate. >> and supposedly, the legislative branch. >> you have for months been hearing these whispers from senate republicans about don't worry, we will still be able to
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put together responsible individuals who could step into those roles to represent america on the world stage to, you know, be the secretary of defense, secretary of state, secretary of treasury. you have those promises. so do we see that cobbling together in the next few days? we already know there isn't a lot of work being done with the transition team in a real way. we have some of the requirements under law, transitions are supposed to go through documents to be signed and the like that haven't been fully moved forward with for the trump team. but it just, i think one of the other things that keeps standig out to me tonight is just two things. one is the information environment such that the voters aren't hearing the messages that the campaigns are trying to send down-and-out? because they live in a siloed information environment or just a more diffuse one or a platform owned by a big supporter of one of the candidates. and the other one is, you know, any country i have ever covered anywhere in the world, people
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vote on the three feet in front of them and the kitchen table they sit down at every day. and the economic issues are so fundamental, and the experience of that, and norah you said earlier, maybe we overfocused on grocery prices. i think donald trump's campaign says he's going to lower the price of bacon. the price of bacon. >> or egging fs for that matter. >> or gas. >> i get you're uncomfortable, even though the head of the federal reserve, you don't know what they do but they're making your house more expensive. you don't get that. you don't get the national number where joe biden is telling you, look, inflation is moderating and coming down, but you understand your grocery cart or gas tank, and that personal experience just seems to be at least what people are using to justify their vote for donald trump when they're citing the economy. >> you know, two other things that have just occurred to me in this conversation about what a second trump administration's going to be like, confirmations,
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they're going to shwooo through the senate. he's going to have his team on the field and without much, you know, irritation from the senate. the other thing is fed chairman is going to be hearing from the president in a way we haven't had in the past. >> and what has -- >> gotten political. >> right, and so what has donald trump said specifically about this fed chair jerome powell? >> he appointed this fed chair, jerome powell originally but has soured on him. he has said that he will make calls, that he will try and believes that the president of the united states should influence, look, i mean, people who follow the markets and economy would say that the federal reserve chair's far more powerful than the president of the united states when it comes to influencing the global economy. and donald trump is saying i'm going to be the guy telling him what to do now. will the fed actually do that? they're pretty -- maybe that's next to the core, one of the places that has tried to push back on political influence, does that hold? >> that's tricky, because they
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have to deal with expectations. >> could a hand-picked successor to jerome powell quickly lower interest rates? >> well, they'd have to go to actual -- well, like tomorrow or today. wednesday. when the fed meets, they actually have to go in conference. so you can't unilaterally decide. but, to your point, who do you appoint as governor as president, you can influence it over time. >> the wild thing about this senate margin, not only will they get confirmed, but some republicans will be able to afford to vote no if they need to, and there will still be republican votes. the party has total domination now in space for the most vulnerable members going into the 2026 cycle. >> i think one of the concerns that democrats or people who oppose donald trump or who are concerned about a donald trump presidency will have questions about is what about these criminal cases that he faces? scott, you follow them so closely. give us a look ahead. there is a sentencing coming up. >> there's a sentencing in that local prosecution in manhattan,
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those 34 felonies, which he was convicted. >> later this month, in november. >> it's always possible. his team has been pretty adroit at getting delays and things pushed back. they could get it pushed back to january 20. >> this is the hush money stormy daniels case. >> the federal prosecutions, the one in florida that was dismissed by the judge, appointed by trump, aileen cannon, is in the appeals process, the special counsel is trying to resuscitate it. the case for election sub version for 2020 is not in a holding pattern but not supposed to come to fruition until 2025 or 2026. that case is going to be cut off january 20th, 2025, based on what trump has said. all that's there. all of that is in a particularly fragile position. >> could the new york judge, does he have to factor in the fact that the guy just won the white house? could he, could he, even without his lawyers motioning, could he just go, well, can't really do
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anything about this now, because, you know, this other circumstance has arisen. >> you can see any number of ways the trump defense team could try to mechanize this towards getting delay or getting some type of push back until after the presidential term, making an argument that there's going to be issues of constitutionality. also i'm going to be a little busy in november and december, keeping this transition going, keeping the country safe, do you really want to lock me up? >> it could become a serious constitutional crisis that the supreme court would ultimately have to weigh in. are you going to allow a local judge to imprison the president-elect of the united states? doesn't seem like something the local judge would have full say over. constitutionally speaking. also politically speaking, i covered that entire trial. two things i noticed. one, almost nobody showed up to that trial outside. i was there every time. trump was there. no one came to protest, maybe a
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few scattered protests. no one came really in support in a mass way. it was, like there was indifference across the political spectrum. you know who showed up? the speaker of the house of representative, johnson, to show solidarity. and now they have all this power in washington. so yes, it's a major legal crossroads for trump, but ultimately, i've spoken to his lawyers, they believe this judge will do whatever he's going to do. but they don't believe trump will ever serve a day in prison. >> the judge, and then when trump is in office he'll have his justice department issue an office of legal counsel ruling that says you can't put a president in jail or whatever. >> speaking of the supreme court, with this kind of senate majority, that's possible here, if there is a vacancy on the high court, this court could move even further to the right. >> mm-hm. >> one of the other interesting things that we're talking about is when donald trump, in that vote, is certified, the person in congress is the vice
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president of the united states, kamala harris. what a scene that will be. >> i've spoken to dan quayle about, people close to quayle say that's a tough moment, when you oversee your own loss. mike pence consulted with quayle in the run up to january 6. not easy to oversee your own loss. vice president harris will have to be the one to oversee the process. >> al gore did it, you know. and this is the other thing we haven't talked about. she is the vice president. vice presidents don't normally win presidential elections, right? and she had an opportunity to distance herself, never did. and is paying the price for it. the image of her standing there with probably speaker johnson or speaker jeffries, who knows. >> we have to entertain this conversation of what check or balance is there going to be on the 47th president? we don't know who's going to win the u.s. house. >> the united states military is one of the few pillars of our democracy that has tried, although we, to remain out of the political fray, but we have seen, even that, start to get
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crossed. there was a lot of worry among some of the retired military leaders who came back to serve, i'm thinking of secretary mattis agreeing to serve as a political appointee. john kelly who came out recently in a very vocal way against donald trump, the four-star who served as homeland security secretary and chief of staff. they worry a lot about wading into that political space, but, at the time, some took those jobs saying i need to be there to, to stand up for the country and to teach this person who hasn't been through politics what this is all about. who, who is that moderating force now? we don't know the answer, but there are some who are already criticizing military leaders for having made that step in and worry that even that last sort of institution may become politicized. that's why some of them cited as reasons for not speaking out. >> we still have some battlegrounds left to be decided. let's bring in major garrett. he is at the data desk.
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>> let's talk about arizona and one of the themes that has flowed through the conversation at the big desk tonight which is what effect would referenda have. we have 55% of vote in arizona in. presidential race we rate a tossup. the senate race, gallego. the abortion rights referendum we have already said is going to prevail. look at the difference. it's not very hard to notice, 62.3% for that. trump leading, currently, 50.8, but it's very close. it is evident that those who supported that initiative did not necessarily transfer that support as democrats hoped to vice president harris. they were regarded independently
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of one another, as has been said at the big desk. you can vote your conscience on this question and also apply your judgment about these other two matters, meaning, trump or harris. one other thing to point out, it is quite clear that though not a super large number of arizonans, but some, not insignificant number voted for trump and ruben gallego. that was probably not on many people's bingo cards a month or two ago, but it has proven out to be something worth noting in arizona. >> major garrett, thank you. you know, one of the interesting things, as we look at what's behind a trump victory tonight are these demographic groups. i'm just looking at the associated press, noting that black voters, men and women, have been the bedrock of the democratic party as well as the latino vote and young voters. but the preliminary data suggests that all these groups were shifting in trump's
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direction. what's behind that, that economic message that i believe we saw in those vote numbers. that's striking to see this coalition shift towards trump. >> yeah, i mean, that's the -- >> story. >> that's the story of the night. the story of the night is a massive historic comeback of a politician who has completely rewritten a party, brought new members into the house and senate and also reorganized the coalitions in american politics more along education lines, the old lines of certainly of race have been upended. and it will be fascinating to see how both parties interpret this and what can be addressed outside of donald trump, in other words, how they deal with these coalitions, how permanent they think they are, whether they think this is just a particular instance where voters are unhappy about an economic period and, and these aren't permanent changes. and the people who make that conclusion might be dead wrong.
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>> one thing i constantly noticed throughout reporting in this campaign is when i met a voter, and they cast themselves as an outsider in america, they almost always said they were voting for trump. and, when they cast themselves as someone who is an insider in american life in terms of education, finances, family structure, they were usually a harris voter or biden voter. it's, it's not even ideology. it's a sense of feeling i often detect from voters. they feel like outsiders in their own country, culturally, politically, economically, and that leads them to look to someone they believe is a weapon against those who are on the inside in keeping them out. >> one thing that has stood out to me in this campaign as well, and bill payne touched on this when he pointed to afghanistan, which, for the biden administration has become this attack point for republicans, but that point which approval started to fade. frustration with someone who ran
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on competence and clarity and being able to execute. by the way, he was executing the trump administration's deal with the taliban, but it was the demonstration to the world that led these doors to be open, that led to criticism, apparently, from some that vladimir putin walks through those doors. but, when you look at states like michigan. you've got, and i know you've spent so much time there, you've got to wonder, when i heard, you third-party candidates being cited, how much did the alienation of arab and muslim voters, not necessarily going affirmatively for trump but saying you don't see me or hear me and the message i'm sending to you, democrats. we look at those uncommitted voters who just either went third party or possibly didn't show up at all. we'll be looking at that. you look at, by the way, the border is a massive national security policy. we like to say foreign policy doesn't matter. it did in many ways in this. and you look at those questions of how arizona or some of these other states might fare if there
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had been different national security policies. >> you could argue with arab voters and muslim voters in michigan. latino voters in arizona saying you've been asking for my vote every four years, you've done nothing to help me, you've been taking me for granted. screw you. i'm voting for the other guy. >> and ukraine became almost a proxy for some republicans as a way to argue that they were economically frustrated. why are you sending money there? i need it here! >> 20 years ago it was the left saying why are you spending all this money in iraq. >> what was jd vance's famous word on steve bannon's radio show? i don't care about ukraine. >> right. >> in terms of a political or foreign policy project for the united states. >> whereas we have joe biden and kamala harris arguing that this is in many ways an existential threat to the western order, to dem democracy itself. >> even that phrase, western order. >> i know. >> it's something maybe people in washington continue to
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articulate something that's important to them. but i never hear it. the concept of the west. europe. these things that galvanized american policies since world war ii, you never hear it on the lips of voters. >> yeah. it's interesting, i was just with the dean of a prestigious university that said, that has an acceptance rate of some 10%, and he said most of the students there don't know enough about world war ii. maybe that's why, even people getting into prestigious universities don't remember what happened in world war ii. anyway, that's a podcast conversation as well. for now, let's take a break. you're watching cbs news, america decides, election 2024. we'll be right back with a history lesson and more.
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welcome back to cbs news coverage of america decides 2024. we have been on the hour for, on the air, i should say, for ten hours now. but it's getting difficult to put the words together as you just witnessed. but what we have been on this journey together tonight is watching how america has voted. and it has been a strong night for donald trump and the republican party. donald trump doing quite well in
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all of these seven battleground states that we've been watching in these several months of this campaign. republicans taking the senate and flipping the senate in their favor with a number of these candidates. questions about how large their majority will be in the united states senate. at this hour, we have not called the presidency yet for donald trump because we're waiting for some more votes to come in, but donald trump has already declared victory several hours ago. appearing before thousands of his supporters in west palm beach. noting that this has been the greatest, according to him, the greatest political movement of all time. let's bring in cbs news political contributor joel payne. joel? >> reporter: i wanted to just talk a little bit about how we got here in terms of you know, democrats and maybe some of the arguments that they lost. i actually have a feeling that democrats lost the argument on trump's first term. if you look at some of the retrospective job approvals.
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over the course of this race, trump has steadily improved his positioning. he was, ended the 2020 term in lower regard than he is now. and i think that democrats lost t the thread on some of the things donald trump was popular for, trying to kill obamacare, the ecja, giving tax breaks to the wealthy and well-connected. seems like maybe the voters feel like democrats got away from talking about those things and talked about tertiary things that are not material to people's bottom line. about trump's first term is something i'm hearing from democrats as well as folks are trying to pick up the pieces after what's been a tough night. >> it's an excellent point, as i was in kalamazoo, michigan with the vice president, and i went around and started speaking with voters that were there. i actually asked, and it was an
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african-american male, probably in his mid-50s, i said, so what do you want to hear from the vice president today? and he said i actually want to hear more about what she would do. and i wonder, also, if she might talk a little bit, i think people have amnesia about what donald trump's term was like. but even though he was there at a rally, was planning to vote, he said he wanted to hear more from her. so making that case, which takes time, and prosecuting, it's the dual-edged story of prosecuting the case against your opponent, which they largely did on a character front, but i never heard the argument very forcefully made, except by barack obama on the economic front. remember, barack obama and his speeches said donald trump brags about the economy. that was my economy that he inherited. that was barack obama's economy as the former president said at that point. but that was really the only opportunity that i heard. certainly tim walz didn't make it in the vice presidential debate trying to remind people about what was wrong with the donald trump economy. the democrats never took him on,
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on that issue. and that showed up tonight because people said i remember it as a great economy. i'm going to put him back in office. but what they do remember are checks. i've heard many people say this. they remember during the pandemic they got checks. >> but, and what's amazing is that democrats couldn't find a way. they were handcuffed on it. but to talk about covid-19. donald trump was, was voted out of office in fact because he bungled the response to covid-19. that didn't come up very much at all. >> you're watching cbs news, america decides. we'll be right back.
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welcome back to cbs news election night 2024. we are still on the air because we are waiting for a vote count that could put donald trump over the top. we're here with major garrett. i am, my colleagues at the desk have sent me here to ask what is hol holding this up. >> it's not my fault. ten electoral votes. we've already seen the map. 266. ten would clearly put donald trump into president-elect status. why don't we have it yet? 96% of the vote in. where is it outstanding? prin principally in milwaukee county. the vast majority is mail-in voting. there is some time needed to count that. >> they're counting that right now. >> they are. what is the current state of affairs in our lean trump orientation in wisconsin? i will answer that question for
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you. what what does the vice president need to prevail? she needs 80% of the outstanding vote. what does our modeling tell us she's likely to yield? 67%. so that's a very steep hill to climb. it is theoretically possible, but it is outside of the area where you would say, oh, that's likely. that's, yeah, she can do that. no, it doesn't look that way at all. so wisconsin is still leaning trump, but we are waiting for this, right here. milwaukee county, that outstanding vote, which totals, whoops, milwaukee, just under 120,000. and it's mail balloting. there's supposed to be an announcement from officials in milwaukee in the next half hour or so. >> and how much of that 120,000 could break towards the vice president? >> well, we don't know exactly what the percentages are. anthony, if you want to come over and answer that question for me. >> maybe 70%.
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>> maybe 70% anthony says. >> so that would not give her enough votes. we go back to the final vote tally, see i'm doing the math. >> this is our range. this is our range, okay. of the probabilities. i'll take that away. we'll go back to what does the vice president actually need. 80% of the outstanding vote. based on our estimates, 67%. so -- >> can you go back to the main vote? >> of course. >> what only separates them is about 110,000 votes. >> yes, yes, but let's be honest. in wisconsin -- >> where would you find 110,000 votes. >> in wisconsin, in history, that's a landslide. 20,000 in 2020. more than 100,000 is a steep hill for the vice president to climb. there's a little bit of outstanding vote here in dane county, a little bit of it sprinkled here and there, but the principal amount of it is in
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milwaukee county. >> donald trump can win with wisconsin. he could also win with arizona or nevada. >> or nevada. absolutely. >> let's take a look at nevada. >> sure. let's go out to nevada right now. >> there was a data point. anthony said we're going to hear about new numbers coming in from wisconsin. >> just a few more in racine. i should note, though -- >> few more in racine. kenosha. >> carry alaska. >> yes, what anthony is telling us is alaska could also come in as well. and let's go to nevada. we've got 93% of the vote in. former president trump has a very comfortable lead. let's go straight to the needs. what is do the what does the vice president need? what we have the estimate at 37%. that's an even higher, steeper hill to climb than wisconsin. and wisconsin is steep enough.
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so there really is nowhere, norah, in which the harris campaign can credibly tell itself, i see the path. i see it. no. no. things are aggregating against the vice president's prospects in state after state after state. >> all right, major garrett, thank you. i'm going to send it back to you guys at the desk and to talk in just a moment, but first we should note that it has been a big night for trump and the republicans. and cbs news projects the gop will control, take control of the senate, flipping it from the democrats. we don't know who will control the house. and cbs news rates that at this hour as a tossup. scott mcfarland, what do we know about who could be some of the contenders for the senate leadership? >> the senate will be controlled by republicans, and there will
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be a new senate majority leader for the republicans. you'll recall, mitch mcconnell is stepping back to become a rank and file senator for the rest of his term. and there's a competition to succeed him, and it's been a pretty fierce competition in the months leading up to election day. south dakota senator john thune, who is number two in the hierarchy of the senate gop leadership is one of the contenders. there's another john, though, challenging him. john cornyn of texas and rick scott who is projected to have won reelection tonight from florida is a third contender. not viewed necessarily as a true balanced three-way race. senators thune and cornyn are prohibitive favorites. and they will fight for the responsibility to be majority leader with outsized influence here because that majority, republicans seem to have secured tonight is expected to incrementally grow as more of these races get called. republicans are techniparticula
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well positioned to take up another one or two seats if not more as these results come in. the midwest states and some of the west coast states. but the battle for the u.s. house, that's going to take a while. we know that the republicans can afford to lose a net of two or three seats overall tonight. but if democrats get four, they have control of the u.s. house. and we haven't made much progress getting through those 30 or so battleground states or battleground seats in the u.s. house to get a measure as to who's favored right now. that's the breakdown, and we know the magic number is 218. we're going to have to wait a few days for california to come in. there are going to be some very close races. i'm looking at one in ohio and iowa that can be particularly close. and one in nebraska. let me emphasize ohio. marcy captor, who's been around for 40-plus years. she is mrs. toledo. she is in a nail-biter to hold onto her seat which is overwhelmingly trump. marcy is a democrat.
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>> do you think one of the two johns is more positioned, more amenable to a second trump administration? has better insight with him, better sense of the conference? >> they have cozied up to donald trump. i think that's a charitable way of putting it. they have had their criticisms of donald trump in the past. and john thune in particular has found ways over the last few months to ensure that he has the good graces of donald trump, knowing he'll need some form of support or no opposition to secure this post. but he would be the top lieutenant of a president trump to get things done legislativelily and with confirmation. >> and he was reluctant during the primary to jump in and support donald trump. he did, his fellow senator, tim scott, one of the few republican senators to voice out loud and pub publicly an endorsement for somebody other than donald trump. >> correct me if i'm wrong. wasn't rick scott outside the courthouse in manhattan? wasn't he one of the ones who
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came to support trump during that criminal case? >> i believe he was part of that parade. the choice is ultimately going to come down toe the senators d trump himself. who does trump want? as these numbers continue to rise for a sizable republican senate majority it gives trump much more of a hand on the scale. based on my conversations with gop senators, it seems like it's thune's to lose. senator thune is someone liked by donors, liked by his colleagues. it's not that people don't like senator cornyn, they like senator cornyn a lot. but thune has built a relationship with mcconnell. he's repaired that relationship with former president trump. senator scott is someone who has a lot of money and is seen as a real trump ally, but he doesn't have that deep trump relationship. so he's not some kind of guarantee to win trump's late support. >> if i can make one more point about outsized figures in the u.s. senate and u.s. house moving forward for democrats.
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january 6 committee moving forward as foils for donald trump. adam schiff. >> hmm. >> set to secure a seat as california senator where every senator has some platform and some sort of leverage, and jamie raskin of maryland has his own coalition that is broader than his district in suburban maryland. he is a figure head for the democratic party, one people will rally behind as a voice of the trump opposition. >> by the way, two guys from brooklyn still set to lead democrats. ha hakeem jeffrey. >> there's no indication of a change of leadership in the house. >> the problem is, these guys have such strangleholds on their conferences because of the money they can raise and the relationships they've built across their caucus. >> goodness, the democrats
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outraised republicans in these races that they are fighting tooth and nail to preserve. in 23 out of 25, democrats outraised the republicans, challengers outraising incumbents. they've raised a lot of money. >> and it may not have done anything for them. >> at this hour, donald trump is on the verge of a victory with swing state wins. a number of victories across the board. a potential popular vote win as well. a commanding lead with republicans in the senate. he will, no doubt, in his party, claim a mandate with this resounding victory, in the face of, also, kamala harris also outraised donald trump. now there may have been some outraising on the republican side with special interest groups and dark money, but, when it came to those federal election returns, kamala harris and the democratic party poured a billion dollars into her campaign, but it did not deliver her a victory tonight. >> not at all.
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>> the billion dollars. it's the billion-dollar campaign. and the money has diminishing returns after a while, and a fractured media environment where those campaign ads and mailers in your mailbox just seem like white noise. >> and the text messages that everybody gets now from organizations they didn't ask to be contacted by. it's incredible. >> and the transition of power is going to be something we will all be paying close attention to later today on wednesday. what does president biden decide to say about donald trump returning to the presidency, and what of course does vice president harris say? she has acknowledged that others have called trump a fascist, and she has essentially adopted that as her own view of trump. how does she speak to the country? what kind of message does she have for trump? this is going to be a moment we'll think about for a long time. how do democrats respond, not just in terms of their political
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rehabilitation but how do they respond to trump? and scott's right. jamie raskin and others are ready to go to the barricades politically, but we haven't heard anything i've been texting my biden sortsurces and harris sources -- >> they went to bid. >>bed. >> we don't go to bed. this is the city that never sleeps. >> he's going to have to have a conversation with his party. because he's in for a world of hurt with democrats. remember, they all wanted him to announce at some point he wasn't running at least a year ago and allow for an open process. >> but i also -- >> what were you going to say? you know what? >> well, he's going to say, well, people close to him believe that he was able to beat trump in 2020 and he could beat trump again.p>> that's right. and he will say that he could have. he appeared to suggest that to barack obama when they saw each other at ethel kennedy's
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funeral. i could have beaten her is what he was mouthing to barack obama at the funeral. if you know joe biden, he also believes firmly that he was, not only the only one that could beat donald trump in 2020 but 2016, but he has spent his presidency, not only repairing the american economy, trying to lower inflation, repair american relations around the world, which he spent an enormous amount of time doing that. it is his pride. and so this is, obviously, a huge blow to not only his legacy but his confidence. and so his remarks, you're right, will be viewed so closely about after he just recently suggested that supporters of donald trump -- >> yeah. >> were garbage. >> and he has 76 days on this term to deal with the crisises you're talking about. >> these polls don't suggest a
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. i want to talk about ivf. i'm the father, i'm the father, i'm the father of ivf. i want to hear this question. and we really are the party for ivf. we want fertilization, and it's all the way. and the democrats try to attack us on it. and we're out there on ivf even more than them. so we're totally in favor of it. >> that's donald trump on the
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campaign trail last month. one of the biggest issues of the past few years has been abortion and reproductive rights. and, you know, margaret brennan, you and i have looked at this issue very closely. striking to hear the 78-year-old donald trump talking about being in favor of fertilization, speaking of ivf, which has been around for decades. i think there are people that are our age, a little bit younger than me, that were the product of ivf babies. so that has existed for a long time. it's quite commonplace for younger women to use ivf as if it's some sort of new technology. but one of the things that donald trump did do was suggesting that he will mandate this -- >> yes. >> that private companies -- >> yes. >> and the government -- >> yes. >> would start paying for ivf. >> and unclear if he would ever be able to get congress to mandate coverage of something like that. i mean, there was an entire supreme court battle over whether or not you could force hospitals and religious
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institutions to even provide birth control. can you force or mandate k companies to provide funding and cover in-vitro fertilization, which is what ivf stands for. but then you also heard that there were a number of republican senators, when this issue became a live one, if you remember, after roe versus wade was overturned, this was one of the knock-on effects of it. and there were a number of senators who didn't know what ivf stood for. this is one of the byproducts of overturning roe versus wade. it wasn't just about the singular procedure of abortion. it was also about women undergoing miscarriages a receiving treatment. a lot of what the harris campaign talked about were very specific medical procedures. we, however, often the ballot
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tonig on the military a ballot are looking at abortion. a a conservative state, they did vote tonight. and they voted it down. so this is now, norah, the second u.s. state to vote to restrict, basically, to affirm the current standard in south dakota. florida was the first. it was interesting when we heard senator marco rubio on this program earlier. he said he wouldn't be surprised in florida if it came up again. there was what, 57% of voters there. it was a pretty, you know, more than half were for changing. so he's indicating he knows it's not close there. south dakota, it sounds like it may be a closed issue. the governor of that state, kristi noem, sleep deprivation. excuse me. was on "face the nation" shortly
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afte after roe versus wade was overturned talking about the pill. so we're not done just because of election day. this is going to continue to be litigated. >> mifepristone can be restricted at the fda level. in other words, you don't need legislation, you don't need a national abortion mandate. it can be done through the rule making of the fda, which is determined by who trump puts in the executive branch. >> and rfk jr. said he would be in charge of all these alphabet agencies that have something to do with health care. in fact, he said he would be in charge of the fda, the cdc, the nih, the usda. i mean, there were so many agencies, i wondered how he would be able to do all of that. but i think what he was referring to was maybe, it would be difficult for him to be confirmed, although looks hike
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repub like republicans have a healthy majority in the senate. and it was suggested he would have a czar-like role. >> we have new reporting tonight. colleagues working together down in florida. olivia renaldi, who has been deeply covering the trump campaign for months, traveling across the country, our colleague huey burns who we've heard from throughout the evening. jake jake roosen. they were meeting with senior trump adviser brian hughes within the last hour or so, down in florida. he said that the trump transition team is now afoot. it's going to make, quote, quick work. we'll start having meetings in the coming days to work on the transition. that could include robert f. kennedy jr. and others. the transition, they report, will take place in west palm beach. and they also talked to james blair, the political director for the trump campaign in the hilton hotel late tonight slash
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early this morning. and they have something really intriguing in their reporting. they say that it's the low-propensity voter who drove the trump coalition this time around in the trump campaign's view. they recruited people who never participated in politics to try to come to the polls. and this created an undercurrent for support. they have a new data point that the trump campaign is claiming it knocked on 25 million doors across the seven battleground states. and they believe that of the late-breaking voters moving toward trump the trump campaign has attributed it to their economic message more than anything. trump believes of course that he told cbs today immigration, a strong message for him. so we see down in florida also a consensus, a conclusion by the trump campaign that trump was able to win tonight as we've been discussing because of black men, latino men, suburban women, arab-americans and white men. they believe that's the new
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composite of the trump group in this country that drove trump to victory tonight. >> and the thing that all those groups have in common is their gende, correct? you named all men, right? >> yes. mm-hm. >> arab-americans. >> and arab americans. >> suburban women. >> but he didn't, the suburban women, he didn't do that much better than he did, i think he only won suburban women by two, he won them by four last time. that one might be less. >> and there's no way to reliably track the arab vote in michigan. >> it's the trump campaign's view. >> totally. >> one of the things i'm interested in tonight as you talk about the changes and the realignment that's happening not only with donald trump but also in the united states senate, because i saw that in pennsylvania david mccormick, west point graduate came out. he did not give a victory speech but said it looks like we're headed in the right direction. i'm just curious now if we were
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to look at those republicans ahead in senate races, what does that majority look like for them? can we tick through those big senate races that would look like flips, scott? not only pennsylvania if mccormick succeeds. where else? we know west virginia. >> pennsylvania's astoundingly important and maybe the only state left if mccormick wins with senators of different parties based on the map nationwide. >> we're going to take a quick break. we'll be back. cbs news, america decides, in just a moment.
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election 2024. good morning. you might be surprised seeing me here. but we've been on the air all night, following this election. we are waiting for a vote count that could put donald trump over the top. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east, 2:00 a.m. in the west. joined here by my colleagues. we've all been here for nearly 12 hours watching the race to 270 electoral votes. donald trump has 266, and kamala harris 218. we are waiting on four battleground states. cbs news rates wisconsin as leaning republican. nevada is also lean republican. let's take a look now at arizona. that's a tossup. and then as is michigan at this hour also considered a tossup as we await votes earlier this morning. donald trump came out to address supporters in west palm beach
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and claimed victory. >> a political victory that our country has never seen before, nothing like this. i want to thank the american people for the extraordinary honor of being elected your 47th president and your 45th president. [cheers and applause] and ever citizen, i will fight for you, for your family and your future. every single day i will be fighting for you. and with every breath in my body. i will not rest until we have delivered the strong, safe and prosperous america that our children deserve and that you deserve. this will truly be the golden age of america. that's what we have to have. [cheers and applause] >> donald trump today promising to fix it and usher in a golden age of america.
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let's head over to major garrett who is at the data desk. let's dive into these numbers bout why we haven't been able to call some of these remaining battleground states. >> let's go to michigan, all right? what's outstanding? we've got vote in wayne county, oakland county, kalamazoo, a little bit in kent county, grand rapids. what is the needs category for vice president harris? 66% in michigan. what is our projection? based on our estimates, 56%. steep hill. but michigan, as you will see as i go across the country east to west looks probably better than any other place. outstanding vote, in wisconsin, principally in milwaukee county, 119,000 ballots remaining, that's mail-in vote, we're waiting for that to come in. what is the needs quotient for the vice president? 82%. what's our projection?
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77%. steep hill to climb. let's go to nevada. 39 93% of vote in. where is it outstanding? clark county, washoe county. what are the needs? 67%. what is our estimate? 36%. wow, that is the steepest hill so far. let's go to arizona. that's where things look with 55% of the vote in, most of it still outstanding in maricopa and pima county. that's not a surprise. but what is the needs quotient? 52%. where's the vice president? 50%. so arizona, of the four, looks the best. i mentioned michigan, possibly, no, it's arizona. but in all four states, looking at the needs, looking at the outstanding vote and our estimates, there is no place other than arizona where you could say there is a statistical probability that is more reasonable than not of a harris victory. michigan, wisconsin, nevada, the
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hill is incredibly steep to climb. >> and norah, as we were just talking here, major was just laying out for us, michigan. i was texting with a democratic lawmaker who said that the issue of the middle east was just so decisive in this key swing state that has such a large, not just arab but muslim population. also an issue that resonated surprisingly so for some democrats, among not just progressives but college campuses and specifically in the state of michigan, thinks that was decisive, this lawmaker texting this was a colossal failure of an election for the democratic party because of the middle east and the economy. the party needs a complete rebuild. because of the decisiveness of this loss and winnability of the race shows a total lack of vision, bold ness and cautious anti-trump bashing campaign. big mistake. democrats already flogging themselves for the loss this
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they seem to be headed for this evening. >> and we knew that, because of the mm of the critics in dearborn, which has the largest arab-american population for america, we saw the local paper did not endorse, came out against and was highly critical of the biden-harris administration. so a number of those reliably democratic voters sat on their hands. >> and not just to condemn the biden administration unequivocal support for israel but to say to joe biden and kamala harris come visit us, come hear us. consider change to policy. you're shaking your head because you spent time out there. and would not do it and feared being booed should they go. >> and the way that she would react too it is what really grated a lot of those guys that we spoke to. excuse me, i'm speaking here, and i don't, of course i want to end that war, but i want to talk about this. that added up too much. and there was a real desire to
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call her out and meet with her and to think that they could get around to supporting her and ultimately, especially in the last two weeks, they said there's no way. >> because she was perceived as having more empathy toward the the humanitarian situation there. the united nations. the catastrophic and president biden didn't talk about it for so long. didn't talk about the civilian casualties rs casualties, partly because of the chessboard he was dealing with here, trying to goad a right wing, reluctant israeli lead ever towards reining him in, the bear hug. we're coming back to national security impacting domestic. that if she had, and this will be one of those things, in autopsy, talked more about it, would it have made any difference? >> if donald trump wins every battleground state and is doing, and women aren't turning out for harris and union voters aren't turning out for harris. >> what about college kids?
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>> and college kids, women are fine, but trump is doing much better with young college men. none of that has to do with michigan. i mean, what will be interesting, sorry, with dearborn or the issue of gaza and israel, some of the problem is she was stuck with being a part of an incumbent administration that has to handle making big decisions about foreign policy, and could she have really done anything to get to a position where she would have been somehow able to appeal to those voters and not mess up the biden foreign policy. it's probably impossible. >> that's the dance they do in the campaign. you're talking about dropping into restaurants and buying sandwiches. >> you don't lose all seven battleground states because you dropped into a restaurant. there are bigger problems here. >> we spent a lot of time talking about puerto rico and pennsylvania. i'm just going to say. in terms of slivers of electorates. >> you talk about -- >> in certain states. >> but it didn't matter.
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>> that's my point, though, that, like she spent a lot of time doing things and courting very small slivers, this was a sliver she did not. you could argue either way. but it was -- >> none of those choices are what's contributing to the loss here. >> i will tell those democratic lawmakers that. those are the texts i'm getting. >> democratic lawmakers are going to take every one of these small things to their constituencies and say this is the reason you lost because it makes them the king maker of the next chapter of the democratic party. but these are bigger problems than small individuals. >> it was for progressive democrats and young progressive democrats. >> i think you guys are in agreement on many issues and the main one we've discussed tonight is that americans believe that donald trump is better on the economy. and kamala harris never made a cohesive argument to convince voters that she's the better choice. >> and the argument that trump and the republicans have been
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making with, if that's such a good idea that you're sharing with us, why weren't you implementing it? that's a pretty good argument. >> you want to look for a batch of republicans who did better than their districts would have indicated and better than the democrats this cycle, where the first group of democrats who recommended joe biden drop out, publicly, put out statements saying he needs to leave this race after the debate performance. i can go down to a couple of the battleground congressional races, and the democrats who did that didn't just win. they won by nearly or into double digits. go to minnesota. suburban minneapolis, angie craig was among the first to say joe biden needs to stand down, and i'm going to make a public statement. she won big in minnesota where vice president harris had smaller margin, likely, than joe biden. new york's 18th district, which is about an hour and a half north of new york city. pat ryan, the military veteran said publicly among the first. joe biden needs to stand down. pat ryan blew out the opposition, what was supposed to
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be one of the closest races in new york. >> there's also a sense of disbelief inside the biden white house. think about this. people have forgotten. in 2021, when he comes into office, president biden pushes forward a trillion dollar american rescue plan, over a trillion dollars. then he passes an infrastructure plan, over a trillion dollars. and there was a belief inside the biden administration, across all the high command, that they would get credit, politically, in 2022, and 2024, for massive spending, spending they believed was at the same level as franklin delano roosevelt. but, what surprised all of them or most of them at least is that come 2024 most voters have seemingly forgotten. when i interviewed president biden, he said one of his biggest mistakes was not putting up signs that said "joe did this". >> that's the problem is that the spending people associated with the high prices. and that's, you can't, he couldn't claim credit for the
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thing that they would say, yeah, and that's why my eggs are 11 dollars, even though twhhere wa no relationship. there's never been a modern campaign that was able to change the numbers on the economy when they were bad. no matter how bgood an orator yu are. >> he also told the president, not vice president harris, but the president told the public it was transitory, that it was going to go away quickly. gave them the impression of that, right? again, an academic textbook definition -- >> well, in three years, he did bring inflation from 9% down to 3%. >> but it wasn't fast enough. >> it's the messaging around it. >> it wasn't fast enough for voters. >> it set the record in the world for recovery. >> they don't care about that. >> absolutely. >> but i also -- >> you know, i do, and i have it saved on my phone, too. you guys know, i read the "wall street journal" every day, and in the past week, there were so
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many articles, the united states economy is the envy of the world. >> yes. >> gdp growth, donald trump, whoever becomes president will be inheriting an economy that is on fire. it is roaring. it is awesome. >> yes. >> and while some people may not feel it just yet, if t is a gre economy and the envy of the world. >> yes, but that's not the argument that trump is making. it's your jobs are going away in western pennsylvania because they want to restrict the energy industry. it wasn't, we are the dominant economy in the world. the argument being made wasn't around that. it's almost like an experience argument. it's a messaging thing. the facts were in joe biden's favor. the facts were in kamala harris' favor on the economy. but the explanation and the messaging, even just, just this past week, the speaker of the house coming out and saying and kind of walking back that they would repeal the chips act, that
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massive investment that was bipartisan in a tremendous way because it was viewed as investing here to ward off china, if they tried to cut off the world's access to computer chips in taiwan. >> and an investment in manufacturing. >> and an investment in manufacturing. huge jobs in arizona. huge jobs in arizona. >> what's your take on the dow surging over a thousand points? >> i wish i had my bloomberg terminal. look, when we talked to a leading economist on the show, on sunday was, you know, he was talking about the messaging. he was talking about the problems with explaining it, that the markets are saying oh, it sounds like i'm guessing less regulation. but if you talk to people like garrett cone who was here and ran gold man sachs.
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and they're talking about changing, and he didn't seem to realize it's the omb and not the treasury secretary. they say they're going to fix things and they don't know how those agencies are run, like elon musk. >> think about four things that trump has talked about doing or will face in his presidency, and the economic upheaval that all four of those will cause. the deficit we talked about. gary cone was talking about spending in the discretionary portion of the budget. it's a bloodbath. it's never going to happen. and trump's policies will increase the debt and deficit, causing a relationship between those two and gdp that is dangerous. that's one thing. artificial intelligence is about to totally wreck the employment situation in america. much more of a challenge to employment in america than migrants taking jobs in america. immigration, deportation, that's going to change the job market because a lot of those jobs are
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filled by migrants. and then of course tariffs and the relationship that will have with export corporations that are huge exporters. and importers. four major, major challenges to an economy. maybe they'll all be wonderful, but they'll not be without significant birthing pains. >> ahead we're going to go into the numbers. i think we should revisit since it's early in the morning and we've been on the air for almost 12 hours now. we'll take a look at what's happening in the united states senate and go inside those battleground states and explain how donald trump was able to pull off this decisive sweep tonight. you're watching cbs news, america decides, election 2024.
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welcome back to cbs news election 2024. and good morning. i'm norah o'donnell, joined here by my colleagues. we is bhave been on the air som hours. i know it's strange to see us this early in the morning. we are not giving up. the story is still unfolding, donald trump, just four electoral votes away from officially becoming president-elect of the united states. he has already been on the air, on our air i recearlier this mo greeting supporters in west palm beach, claiming victory, calling it the greatest political victory of all time. his vice president at pick, jd vance calling it the greatest
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comeback of all time and claiming he will fix it and bring us to a golden age of america in his words. we have not yet declared donald trump the president-elect, because there are votes still coming in. the counting continues in four battleground states. let's take a closer look. cbs news rates wisconsin as leaning republican at this hour. nevada is also lean republican. arizona is a tossup at this hour. as is michigan. at this hour, waiting on votes from wayne county where detroit is. cbs news is projecting republicans will gain control of the united states senate. so if president trump wins tonight, officially declared as is expected, he will have a senate in republican hands that will help deliver his domestic
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and foreign policy agenda. let's bring in john dickerson, our chief political analyst, and john, what has fueled donald trump's strong surge tonight? >> i feel like we started the night the last time there was a non-consecutive presidential term. [ laughter ] >> that would just, for everybody who's not a historian, that was grover cleveland, 130 years ago. there. [ laughter ] >> that was excellent. excellent. >> thank you, mom. okay. let's, two points. one is let's look at the exit polls and i'll make one other point. first, let's look at the groups that harris lost support among. first, at the top, latino voters. in 2020, joe bien got 65% of them. in 2024, kamala harris got only 53%. young voters, harris got 55%. biden got 60%. and then women, harris got 54%,
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biden got 57. and now let's look at the groups that donald trump did well with. so there you see leakage in the democratic coalition for the vice president. so the goal in these, in these races is you've got to keep your own coalition together and then take away from the other person. well, donald trump took away from kamala harris and then, with conservative voters there at the top line, he got 89% of the vote in 2024, that's better than the 85% he got in 2020. white evangelicals, he improved with them. white non-college voters, he dipped a little bit, but our polling folks tell us there's not a huge difference between 67% and 65%. that's just the tale of how donald trump kept his voters, and took votes away from kamala harris. one of the things that strikes me. as i was running down the risks that donald trump took at the end of the campaign, he didn't move to the middle as campaigns
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often do. he ended as donald trump in full. particularly with women. a very, you know, sensitive constituency that kamala harris was going to do well with. he didn't do anything in particular. in fact, you could argue that he did things perhaps to alienate women voters by the traditional conception of that group. he also finished on grievance rather than a sense of uplift as campaigns often do. he knew that his party would come home to him. he didn't, he didn't suck up to nikki haley at all or for a nanosecond . and haley responded by writing a full-throated endorsement in the "wall street journal" for him. only 5% of republican voters voted for kamala harris. and he didn't participate in the second debate, which you could have seen as emphasizing his loss in the second debate. he didn't want to bother with it because he might have lost again. he outsourced some portion or all of his ground game which was seen as a possible disaster, all of those things, there were
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articles written, talking about it was terrible and it was going to hurt his campaign, it turned out just fine for him. >> how much do you think his appearance on joe rogan's popular podcast helped cement him with this new coalition of republican voters? >> well, if we're thinking about that coalition as containing young, white men under 30, it also contains young latino men and young black men, but he did particularly well among young white voters under 30. i think it's joe rogan. i think it's all the podcasts that he went on, and his general aspect and response to kind of the norms and the fussiness of elites. and, and, you know, experts and all of that, which has been his throw message for years. >> 2008 was the youtube election, right? and the blog election. this was clearly the podcast election. >> and by fussiness of elites, do you mean fact checking by people who do what we do for a living? >> oh, absolutely. absolutely. you know, and -- >> thank you for the
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clarification. >> well, it's an important point, because it's just direct to consumer, put it right in your vein messaging, whatever you want no say. >> right. it used to be you had to clear a threshold of "60 minutes." he didn't do "60 minutes," but he did the podcast that fed right into this constituency. >> mm-hm. i can so remember george w. bush who would say, you guys are just the filter. and donald trump has found a way to ysurpass the filter and get just into the veins of his supporters. we'll have more to discuss. you're watching cbs news, america decides, election 2024.
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11 hours into our coverage, because our data desk is analyzing the remaining votes. and we are waiting for a vote count that could put donald trump over the top to make him the second man to serve non-consecutive terms. that's right. donald trump is on the verge of victory with swing state wins across several of these battleground states. enough of them to bring him to 270 electoral votes. you can see the tally right there on the screen with kamala harris at 218. let's tick through these four battlegrounds. those are the states you see in white. cbs news rates wisconsin as leaning republican. nevada is also lean republican. arizona at this hour is a tossup. as is michigan at this hour. we rate that because, again, the vote tally still coming in at this hour, and it's modeled against exit poll numbers, but
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we are expecting a new batch of numbers in the state of wisconsin, which we have rated lean republican. so we could have some news shortly about whether donald trump has officially reached the threshold to be named the next president-elect of the united states. we have not heard from vice president kamala harris. her campaign co-chair spoke to supporters saying go home for the night. and cbs news now projects that donald trump is the winner in wisconsin. that gives him the number of electoral votes he needs to become the 47th president of the united states. this is an incredible moment in american history for donald
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trump, who faced a number of challenges in this contest. it was an election unlike anyone, any of us have ever covered. >> a life unlike any we've ever covered. this man, donald john trump, born in jamaica, queens, new york city, we are here in manhattan, and so many have said his goal of life was to cross the river from the outer boroughs to manhattan. he has crossed the river again to the presidency,presidency, w presidency. this will usher in an unprecedented era in american history to have someone who believed firmly that he has total presidential power in terms of official acts, based on the supreme court ruling earlier this year. does not have to serve in prison, despite being, being convicted in a criminal trial
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and de-surspite pressuring his vice president to overturn an election has been warmly embraced by the party, the republican party once again and won the presidency based on our cbs news projection. and he is willing and able and ready and excited, i'm told by sources close to him, and including by him himself, to return to the white house and wield power on immigration, foreign policy, the economy, the executive branch. a moment in history, some americans are very scared, alarmed. they see donald trump as a threat, a danger to american democracy. but, as you saw in florida today, many americans believe he's an agent of change. he's an outside irwhor who spea their grievances. this country isn't necessarily ideologically divided with red versus blue but divided about who donald trump is, what he represents and what this country is in november of 2024. >> donald trump winning the crucial battlegrounds of
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pennsylvania, georgia, north carolina wisconsin. at this point, four of those seven battlegrounds. and we are still waiting on arizona, nevada and michigan. but a sweep by donald trump, who is also doing well in the popular vote, behind those numbers, the vice president kamala harris failing to bring together the coalition that normally propels a democrat into the white house. so we will have more on that. want to go now to major garrett at the data desk with more information about how donald trump achieved this victory tonight. major garrett? >> so, wisconsin was the key to this reelection of former president trump, making him president-elect to be the 47th president of the united states. anthony had wwill walk us throu because norah, you came over here an hour ago. we were waiting on a couple of
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key precincts in wisconsin to provide the absolute information we needed to make this call, anthony, how did that happen? >> well, we got the information we needed, which was really out of milwaukee. okay. once we saw that, it was a question of kamala harris, who was trailing, didn't have enough votes to be able to catch up, even though you see that big number in milwaukee, it just wasn't enough. the thing, though, the big thing here is this. this is a one point, this is a one-point victory for donald trump. now how do you do that? it means he consistently hit his vote targets in county after county, or exceeded his 2020 performance, so i'm going to hit, you know, racine, here, and i'll go county after county where he, even if he came close to them, in one after another, okay, he was at least consistent with his 2020 numbers or just a little bit better. and that's how he added up all of the, all that to get over the top. so one of the things that you
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look for, not just in wisconsin here at the data desk, but that consistency of pattern, and he was able to pull together his old coalition, and then add a little more to it. especially in a lot of cities, cutting a little into those democratic margins with more minority voters, okay, more young voters, all that in and around the cities, and you saw those patterns start to emerge, not, you know, close victories but consistent ones throughout those states, norah. >> trump could win all of the seven battleground states tonight? >> yeah. >> well, maybe not could. maybe not this morning, but yes, he is on pace to win nevada. he is on pace to win michigan. arizona's the only one that still looks theoretically possible for the vice president. but based on the statistics that the data desk has been reviewing, nevada and michigan are both leaning very strongly in the former president's direction. >> i want to be clear about the timing. he could win them, not
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necessarily tonight. i'm not sure all those ballots will get counted this evening or this morning. [ laughter ] as the case may be. >> it's the morning, it's the morning! >> it's all a blur now. but at some point, we'll get through nevada, arizona and michigan. >> and the simple thematic truth, norah and team at the dek, the trump campaign said for the better part of two weeks, the former president has never polled better than he is currently polling, and if he just gets a tick above where he's polling, 48, 49 in all these broattleground states, he will win them all. that theory is playing out over and over and over. he was being polled accurately and polled a little more than the polling averages to provide the victory in wisconsin, georgia, north carolina, pennsylvania, and we've told you, michigan and nevada are setting up very well for him and possibly arizona as well. >> an excellent point. thank you, gentlemen and scott mcfarland. donald trump will return to
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washington, claiming a mandate with this big win tonight, and he will also have a republican-controlled senate that is back in the majority after four years, which will allow him to install loyalists throughout the government. >> yeah. >> even new choices to the supreme court, if there are retirements. explain what that could mean in terms of his legislative agenda and enacting change. >> might seem like the die is cast already. but every one of those senate seats remaining, the more republicans can get in that majority the more it bolsters donald trump when it comes to confirm a cabinet, when it comes to a possible supreme court nomination, to get all his legislation through. every race means something right now. so we'll watch michigan. we'll watch pennsylvania, nevada, they all have currency and leverage for donald trump, who, on january 6, 2025, will have his election certified by vice president harris. i can't get past the human story
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here. there may be no more polarizing figure in modern times, but i think everybody can reflect on 116 days ago, that shot at a rally, i was there in butler, pennsylvania. any number of people i met that rally, we still carry some of that with us. it was a seminal moment in our lives to be ducking bullets at a secret service-protected rally. he got hit by one and kept going to the rallies. kept walking out on the stage to those microphones. you mix that with his brand of being a fighter and having courage, that iconic image of pumping up that fist. blood dripping down his face, hard to imagine that didn't have an outsized impact and not just in western pennsylvania. >> that photo is, by "the associated press," trump's fist in the air, it was put on tee shirts. >> yep. >> by trump supporters. hats. >> ads. >> it was on the billboards of other candidates. and yard signs of other candidates trying to associate
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themselves with him, saying i'm a fighter like. and their heads were small and his picture was large. >> it also gave him the opportunity, donald trump, to say, which i think resonated with many of his supporters, that god had chosen him to survive that assassination attempt. and while some people recoiled at him saying that, it was another emotional connection for donald trump with his supporters. >> and he gave his speech tonight in west palm beach, where it should be underscored, there's another person charged with assassination attempt, september 14th, on that sunday while he was golfing at that same area, where he gave his speech tonight. that's an apolitical way of connecting with americans, and it's hard to imagine that it didn't have an impact. >> and margaret brennan, the president has said, promises made, promises kept. he has told his supporters, we
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wll fix it. we will bring in a golden era. what is his record on that? what's he promising to do? >> well, if you look at what he delivered in the first four years versus what he promised, there was a lot that went undelivered. he did deliver on that single legislative achievement that gary cohen was the architect of, but when it came to building the wall and having mexico pay for it, it was just a few miles. you have all sorts of different things that were on his to-do list that he did not achieve. now, being president and dealing with circumstances you are handed, such as covid was pretty extraordinary. there are things that he actually did achieve that he didn't trumpet on the campaign trail because of the interesting dynamic we have in our politics right now. he could have come out thayer and there and said, yes, we had covid but i delivered you a vaccine. he didn't do that. he played more toward some of these things that enraged, that
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anger and apparently galvanized people enough to get in a car and show up and vote on november 5th. i think we have to all take time to digest this. we're doing it in the moment. but i don't think we are all quite grasping the gravity of sending donald trump back to washington with the word you used, norah, a mandate. it's not just the man. it is a mandate. they have control in a significant way of senate and possibly the house. we may not know that, definitively for a little bit of time. but this is a really interesting message being sent by the electorate tonight. >> all presidents want to act. and they are frustrated in office by a number of things, tradition. you know, you can't do that because previous presidents haven't done it. they're frustrated by having to get reelected. they're frustrated in some cases, well, that's illegal, mr. president, you can't do that, so you shouldn't do it.
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and then finally, in the most extreme cases by political censure, by impeachment. all for of those latches are unhooked for donald trump. he faces none of those limitations. and he also is, in our modern presidency, the president who has been most easily, he has most easily indulged his own id, his own personal desires in using power in his office. >> the argument that kamala harris and her supporters made is that donald trump is unstable, unhinged and unchecked. because of the immunity. that message was used after the many of his former, his chief of staff in particular said that he was a fascist, he was dangerous, a threat to national security. and the voters today have returned him to office with a mandate, despite those judgments of people who have four stars on
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their shoulders and worked closely with him for several years. >> it's not even despite several times. >> in spite of. >> without any consideration in deliberate, a deliberate decision to ignore it. one thing we have to acknowledge, i believe, as reporters, is that on the campaign trail, so many voters do not care about how trump's behavior and conduct are characterized by his critics or those who believe they are guardrails for american democracy. they are sharply dismissive when the points are raised by journalists. and by others. >> yeah. >> this is a fact i have encount ienc encounterred constantly as a reporter. when you bring up conduct and there's a push back about that
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assertion about norms, constitution, constitutional system and even the rule of law. what we have to also, i think, acknowledge as reporters is we are entering a new moment in america that is volatile, where you do not have an acceptance, broadly speaking, of how the rule of law is defined in the united states and how the constitution is defined. >> how broad is this mandate, which he is now claiming? because think of some of the things he's said openly during the end of this campaign about military tribunals for his congressional critics, about stripping licenses from broadcasters, about, at some point, deporting millions of people? in short order? can he put that all beneath the umbrella of i've got a mandate, i said this aloud before you went to vote. >> and if that's the kind of radical change that his supporters think is necessary. >> yeah.
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>> yes. potentially. >> we should point out, we've heard nothing from the vice president. she, her campaign had supporters sent home, what was it, around 1:00, 2:00 this morning? >> yeah. >> we've had no word from the white house as to whether president biden has been informed, whether he's been up watching, whether he will speak to the world about this later today. the only thing on his schedule right now is a security briefing in the 2:00 hour which we expect will still be held, but we'll see if he decides to speak. and then when, if at all, the vice president will speak to supporters, and what even is the protocol. does she go first and then him? does he have to go first and then her? we'll see in the coming hours. >> so far, nobody at the white house has responded to questions about whether there's going to be a change in the schedule today. >> all of this can be traced back to that fateful summer day in rehoboth beach, delaware, where he's sitting there with his family and a few key advisers and decides to exit the
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presidential race in the summer. stunning. and now we end up with his vice president losing to the one person he detests politically more than anyone. >> i would take this all the way back to late play. it was joe biden who said let's debate. right? they rolled the dice. two debates. he accepted, trump did. >> but it was a devastatingly embarrassing debate. >> absolutely. >> for the president of the united states. >> this all traces back to that may decision. >> what a historical counter factual. imagine if president biden doesn't do that debate, is he still the nominee? >> and what he was tillinelling that joe biden wasn't up to it. i was too old for it, with the irony that now we have elected the oldest president everythe united of the united states in this moment. one thing that was scheduled was the testing of an unarmed icbm
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test launch. >> by? >> by the united states as a show of force to say "don't mess with us, we're going through a political transition, we still have the most fear some fighting force." we are at a state of readiness. but now we're going to have to see what these remaining few weeks and months of the biden administration will look like. this is not an insignificant transition. this is a world already in a period looking at a rising china in a way that is not just militarily threatening but in the american infrastructure as we continue to learn that with these disclosures and through reporting, by the way, that major telecom companies have been breached, that chinese-linked hackers are within the infrastructure of telecom and possibly able to access audio of phone calls. i mean, we have had major significant security breaches in ways we haven't really been focussed on because we've been focussed on the election. these are the kinds of things that are going to land on donald trump's desk.
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how do you deal with that? how do you deal with vladimir putin? >> including reports that the chinese targeted and attempted hacks into donald trump's phone. >> yes. >> jd vance's phone and additional officials. i asked the vice president whether she had been targeted. she would not answer that question. i want to bring in joel paiyne. what do you think this means for the future of the democratic party? >> sure. well, first, while we're talking about foreign attacks, let's not forget our election's infrastructure were under threat and duress today as well. the fbi talked about all the attempted interventions that russian state actors tried to make in places like georgia, and i think that's worth bringing up as well. but just talking about the future of the democrat party. i was recently talking to an elected official in the state of wisconsin, actually leslie and i did on our podcast, cross talk politics, and he foreshadowed kind of the falloff that we saw in the state of wisconsin with
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blck voters. he talked about how an urban centers, dane county, folks in milwaukee who he said just did not feel a connection to the harris coalition. they did not feel reached out to. they did not feel engaged. it wasn't for a lack of trying. it's just that the connection point wasn't there. and it was a bit of a signal. and i know that there are anecdotes like that all across the country within the democratic party. last thing i would say, there was a controversial paid media campaign that the trump campaign ran after the debate a few weeks ago. it was around transgender, you know, operations for prisoners. and i talked to a national pollster who had eyes on kind of some of the internals in harris world, and they told me those ads did real damage to harris. and i wonder if she was ever able to fully recover from some
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of the damage. i miean trump in that paid medi campaign really went to work on harris, and it was suggested to me that what we assume was her coming back from some of those difficult public, rather coming back from kind of a low point a few weeks ago was not completed, like she, she had a, she had a deficit to make up, because of the work that the trump campaign did in those paid media attacks in october. and that was something that a national pollster said to me. >> joel payne, thank you for your analysis. final thoughts? ed o'keefe? >> i think we've learned that a billion dollar, 100-day quest to win the white house is not enough in either regard. you needed more time and more money. and there's a lot of questions asked among democrats about how it is you lost latino votes. how it is you lost women, and how it is they need to campaign to a country that is changing,
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and clearly worries much more about its pocket book than its identity. it's a devastating loss for democrats who were convinced they were going to make history, and instead, a different kind of history has been made this morning. >> for democrats who want some check on donald trump, the vote counting in california and arizona this week's critical for control of the u.s. house. >> he's a political giant, eclipsing reagan probably, in the republican party in terms of his influence. he has the, he is probably the greatest ego and sense of impulse of any president in the modern era and has fewer checks now on him when he's in office. >> margaret brennan? >> norah, the irony of a time when we're talking about women's rights at the center of a campaign and we are seeing the second woman to lose to donald trump in eight years. and it's something that, i think, will resonate with a lot of young girls and people around the world who are waiting to see if a female could be commander in chief of the most powerful country in the world. >> quickly, i'll be, i'll end with where i began earlier in the evening.
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i spoke to trump. he was so calm. before the election returns came in. so calm. confident. this is someone who's ready to take the reins again, in his view, not startled at all by the presidency once again coming to him. >> trump won tonight as 2024 voters were looking for a leader, someone who would bring about change, and according to exit polls, that change for them was bringing back donald trump to the white house. he was propelled by a dissatisfied electorate. dissatisfied with the state of the country, the economy and the impact of inflation. so an incredibly tight campaign ending with a big night for the republican party. a night that was expected to last for days, instead, ends in a victory at daybreak for donald trump. cbs news projects that the 45th president will be reelected and
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become our 47th president of the united states. he will be the oldest president ever elected in american history. only the second man to serve two non-consecutive terms. thei this is a political earthquake in many ways, regaining the office that he held for four years. trump will have the backing of a republican senate to help pass his agenda and bring in his cabinet. we still don't know is who will control the house in this election. americans made their voices heard. thank you for watching, and stay with cbs news for the latest election coverage.
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