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decisive victory? with donald former president trump's decisive victory. >> with them looking at their agenda, how will he deliver on his campaign promises. bill haggerty will begin. will he return for a bigger role in the second? national security adviser jake sullivan will be here to discuss president biden's national security priorities as the clock ticks down on the commander in chief. plus, after democrats lost support from key voter groups, the party faces an identity crisis and the process of rebuilding. california congressman row khanna will weigh in. british ambassador to the u.s. dame karen pierce will be here to talk about trump's return and we'll talk with neel kashkari about the fed's interest rate cut and the ambitious plans to
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reshape the economy. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." good morning and welcome to "face the nation." as we wrap up campaign 2024, the scope of republican control in washington over the next few years is coming into focus. overnight cbs projected donald trump the winner in arizona giving him a complete electoral vote sweep of the seven battleground states. with a final tally of 312 electoral votes, republicans scored their biggest white house win in 36 years. republicans will also control the senate with at least 52 seats and there are two races that have not yet been called by cbs news. control of the house is still to be determined with a few
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contests outstanding, but cbs news rates it as leaning republican at this point. we begin this morning with what we've learned about the ip be coming trump administration, personnel, priorities and more. we turn now to robert costa. bob, good to have you here. i know you've been speaking to your sources. what will the second term look like? >> great to be with you, margaret. in recent days i've spoken to president-elect trump, called him up on the phone, along with his top advisers and allies. what's notable about this transition is that unlike in 2016 when he was elected as a washington outsider, now he knows all the players in washington and he alone more than any other aide is evaluating the personnel and possibilities around him and he reflected in one of our conversations about how he sees his mandate, that he has a movement and a base and now a party that's fully behind him and he wants to make sure that anyone who comes on board has
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his same vision for that mandate and for his perceived level of support. and you've seen in recent days people around trump in the wider orbit are trying to recommend a lot of names, but it's trump himself who's saying to his top aides like susie wiles, incoming chief of staff, wants to make sure this is not a chaotic process and is reflective of where he wants to go more than any other kind of counsel. on foreign policy you see names like senator bill haggerty, senator mark coal rubio, ric grenell, all people who identify with trump's vision but those who have had issues with trump in the past about how he perceives foreign policy, like, for example, former ambassador nikki haley or former secretary mike pompeo, are now out of the process. it's not because of any personal trouble with trump, i'm told, it's because at the end of the day trump wants to make sure things are moving along smoothly on ideological and policy lines
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come january. >> do we know what it was with mike pompeo who served him quite loyally for four years as cia director and secretary of state? was it for his support, for example, of ukraine? >> a different orbit around trump right now. he has people like donald trump jr., elon musk, steve bannon on the outside advising him. these are people who are not interventionists, these are people who aren't traditional republican hawks. that's not to say some hawks won't end up in this administration or some wall street figures might end up in this administration as well. i'm told by my sources that the president-elect is not ruling out mainstream republicans or more centrist republicans from joining his team, but at this point he's moving quickly to make sure his base, his party and his image is reflected in the personnel picks fully. >> what are his priorities for the first 100 days or is that too traditional a way of thinking about it? >> they have a real agenda at
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this time. in 2017 it was somewhat sporadic in how they moved and navigated on health care and taxes. they are moving quickly behind the scenes to expand the trump tax cuts, to institute sweeping tariffs across the board. they're also going to try to on foreign policy begin negotiations with ukraine and russia sometime early next year and you have mass deportations, more than anything, galvanizing the trump people behind the scenes. of course they know it's going to be controversial to remove undocumented migrants across the country. could be logistically difficult and politically challenging but they're moving ahead. >> bob costa, thank you. we turn now to tennessee republican senator bill haggerty who also served as u.s. ambassador to japan during the first trump administration. good to have you here. >> good to be with you. >> donald trump has a sweeping mandate as do republicans. do you see this as an
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unrestrained presidency? >> i think this is a presidency that has a mandate like we haven't seen, as you mentioned, in 36 years. the american public has spoken loud and clear. i think if you go back to your interview with bob, there are a number of places where the american people want things. they want sovereignty protected in america before we spend our funds and resources protecting another nation. we've sent $175 billion of aid to the ukraine. that's more than three times the annual budget to the u.s. marine corps. i have voted around opposed every bit of this ukraine aid. i've been listening to the american people. i've taken a lot of heat from mitch mcconnell, from the wall street journal, but this is what the american people spoke up and wan us to do. we should never have been in ukraine. it's the result of failed energy policies. >> there's no u.s. presence in
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ukraine. >> no, but our funds. i'm talking about the vast amount of funds. $175 billion is a tremendous amount. as i said, more than three times the budget of the u.s. marine corps. we've got to pay attention to america. >> does that mean cuts to u.s. military aid to all countries? >> what it means is we need to take a very deliberate focus on america first. we need to be leading from a position of strength, margaret. as i said, we would not be in this position. now what we have is an administration that allows russia to sell at a $60 barrel cap. it reduces their profits. what it does is it subsidizes china to compete against us and we keep vladimir putin fully funding this war in ukraine. we need to stop that. take russia out. interestingly, interestingly, i'll call this the trump effect. just in the past 72 hours what we've seen is the eu say, maybe we should replace russian l&g
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with u.s.l&g. migrant care a advance are being broken up below the border and turned around. the u.k. has said we're going to step our defense budget up to 2.5%. >> some of that was in process already. let me ask you specifically on ukraine. hungary's prime minister has said donald trump has told him he will cut off support to ukraine. you are saying here, i think, in the new congress there will be no more aid to ukraine. >> i've certainly not voted for any aid. >> i know you haven't. >> is that the mandate? >> president trump will find a way to deal with this. i'm not going to get ahead of him. he will find a way to navigate this that's in the interest of the american people. >> what's happening is terrible and people are dieing and we need to stop this. >> we're seeing an alignment of access of adversaries. you have iranian equipment, chinese equipment. >> yes. >> you have north korean personnel on the battlefield so
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the idea they are divorced from geopolitics doesn't seem to be bearing out. japan, south korea. so how are you going to be able to do this without complicating the chess board? >> i think it's become complicated because america's not been standing in a position of strength. the reason is russia's been fully funded because of the policies that allow them to sell energy. iran -- >> russia whether or not -- >> now they're able to fund terror all over the world. >> in part because they have all of these other adversaries they're doing business with. >> they were not able to do that under the trump administration. that's why we saw peace breaking out in the middle east. without iran being shut down, president trump led this, we were able to move our embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. peace was breaking out in the middle east because iran could not fund terror. >> there were attacks by iran during the --
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>> nothing to the level that we've seen. >> and the assassination of the journalist. israel's prime minister said he spoke to president trump three times in recent days and they discussed iran and a peace plan. dune what the content of those conversations was. >> no, and if i did, i wouldn't discuss them here because that has to be navigated very carefully. >> we do have this mid november deadline that the state department and the pentagon have set for israel to improve the flow of aid to gaza's 2 million residents. the u.n. says there is famine already or on the verge of famine. if it is found that israel is, indeed, violating u.s. law, would you hold them accountable? should there be consequences because they are recipients of u.s. aid? >> i've had huge disagreements with this administration in terms of how they've administered -- >> this is u.s. law, not just the administration. it's humanitarian law. >> i think what we've seen break
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out in the past 70 plus hours, hamas is now looking for total peace. so i think the environment has totally changed. >> what do you mean? >> they've announced they'd like to see peace. >> you believe that there will be a hostage deal negotiated under presidnt trump? >> i'd like to see what -- i'd like to see what hamas means by the statement. it seems as if the entire environment is shifting because they see new leadership coming in it. i'm encouraged by that. we'll have new opportunities. again, president trumpas able to achieve peace through strength. i think that's on the way. i'm optimistic. >>one of the interesting dynamics is mr. trump was able to successfully campaign and peel off muslim voters, arab voters. in the state of michigan you saw some of that. they were frustrated by the carnage in gaza. as a result do you think mr. trump ends up with more wiggle room here to perhaps hold the israeli prime minister to account? or does he just give a green light? >> i think what president trump is going to do is focus on the
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root cause to borrow a term that was used in the last administration. he's going to focus on iran. the cause of this is iranian funding of hamas, hezbollah, the houthis. that would never have -- >> upholding international law and legal standards. do you think he will stick by that. >> president trump is certainly going to uphold u.s. law. he's going to make certain our allies are properly cared for and our adversaries are dealt with accordingly. >> five of america's seven treaty commitments are in that asia pacifics. the u.s. has exposure there in a tremendous way. the last time donald trump was president he talked about pulling u.s. troops out of japan, pulling them out of south korea. is that a priority now, reducing the military footprint in asia? >> that comes back to the failure of the elite in washington to understand how a business person negotiates. everybody's got to sit down and
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talk about what the options are. we have been supporting military presence in that area ever since world war ii, ever since the korean war. a significant investment on behalf of the american people. those were made at the time when the economies were developing countries. it's entirely relevant and i think appropriate for him to discuss -- >> signaling strength to suggest we might ditch our allies isn't a positive message. >> the message should be our allies can and should step up to the extent possible to strengthen their own capabilities. we're seeing it happen. we're seeing it in japan. they've agreed to increase their budget from 1% to 2%. they are working with us. this is the direction we need to go. same for south korea. >> before i let you go, you are on a number of powerful senate committees. do you think you're more useful to mr. trump in the senate or would you join his cabinet if asked? >> i'll just say this. i was privileged to have a
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tremendous career in business but one of the greatest honors of my life was to represent the united states, the greatest country in the world, in in president trump's administration overseas. it's also been one of the greatest honors of my life to represent the people of tennessee in the united states senate. whatever role i hold it's going to be advancing the positions president trump is articulating and i'll do that in whatever role necessary. we are going to see america strong again. >> senator haggerty, thank you for your time. >> good to be with you. >> we'll be right back. rstand. that's why at fisher investments we start by getting to know each other. so i can learn about your family, lifestyle, goals and needs, allowing us to tailor your portfolio. (wife) what about commission- based products? (fisher investments) we don't sell those. we're a fiduciary, obligated to act in your best interest. (husband) so how do your management fees work? (fisher investments) we have a transparent fee, structured so we do better when you do better. at fisher investments, we're clearly different.
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>> we're back with jake sullivan. >> thanks for having me. >> we know president biden and president-elect trump will meet in the oval office on wednesday. there are a lot of fires around the world. what is it that president biden wants to deliver in terms of a focus and message? >> the first and most important message will be that president biden is committed to the peaceful transfer of power and
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to a responsible handoff from one president to the next, which is in the best tradition of our country and has been for the last 240 years and then they will go through the top issues, both domestic and foreign policy issues, including what is happening in europe and asia and the middle east. the president will have the chance to explain to president trump how he sees things, where they stand and talk to president trump about how president trump is thinking about taking on these issues when he takes office. >> well, let's go to ukraine because we just heard from senator haggerty, that world view from that portion of the republican party receipt now. we know the war is expanding there. the north korean troops seem to have entered the fight. you have all these adversaries all in on russia winning there. what can you do in the remaining 70 days to sort of change what's happening on the ground or trump proof the strategy, so to speak sm. >> well, look, our approach remains the same as it's been
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for the last 2 1/2 years which is to put ukraine in the strongest possible position on the battlefield so that it is ultimately in the strongest possible position at the negotiating table. it should be up to ukraine to decide for its own sovereignty and territorial integrity when and how it goes to the negotiating table. it's up to ukraine to continue to supply ukraine with the means to defend itself against brutal russian aggression. >> you have 6 billion in money. >> and president biden made clear when president zelenskyy was here in washington a couple of months ago that we would spend all of the resources that were provided to us by the congress on time and in full, meaning that by january 20th we will have sent the full amount of resources and aid to ukraine the congress has authorized. of course, president biden will have the opportunity over the next 70 days to make the case to the congress and to the incoming administration that the united states should not walk away from ukraine, that walking away from ukraine means more instability in europe and ultimately, as the
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japanese prime minister said, if we walk away from ukraine in europe, the question about america's commitment to our allies in asia will grow. >> do you mean president biden is going to ask congress to pass more money for ukraine before he leaves office? >> look, i'm not here to put forward a specific elective proposal but president biden will put forward a case because the threat to ukraine will remain no matter what exactly happens on the battlefield or at the negotiating table and the united states should not walk away from its commitment, either to ukraine or to 50 nations that we have rallied in defense of ukraine in both europe and asia. >> so u.s. intelligence assesses that russia favored donald trump in this election. that russia interfered in a fairly dramatic and visible fashion in the fake videos. what consequence, if any, will they face?
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>> we are helping ukraine fight russia in ukraine in the most dramatic and full throated way one could imagine. we are already doing a substantial number of things to impose costs on russia. we have also passed the most sweeping sanctions on russia that we have seen against a major economy in the world. >> senator haggerty was saying russia's doing fine even with those sanctions. >> well, first of all, you can see in many different ways, whether it's inflation in russia, whether it's their ability over time to actually grow their economy, their technology, their capacity to invest in new sources of energy going down the line, that the picture for russia looks increasingly bleak as time goes on. these sanctions are biting. they have not stopped obviously russia from being able to carry out the military operations in ukraine today. they have painted a darker picture for russia tomorrow. >> do you know what russia is giving north korea's kim jong-un
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in exchange for the men he is sending to fight on the battlefield in ukraine? >> we don't know for sure. frankly, i think vladimir putin doesn't know for sure. i don't think he's decided what he is he going to do on a going forward basis. i will tell you this, kim jong-un expects he's going to get something significant, probably something in the form of military and technology from russia. >> for his nuclear program? >> that's a distinct possibility. we have already heard the russians come out and say that north korea's nuclear program should be looked at differently today than it was five or ten years ago. so the concern about the relationship between russia and north korea in both directions is very real and something that all of the nations of the free world need to pay attention to. >> so prime minister netanyahu said he spoke to donald trump three times in the past few days. the israeli president is coming to the white house. that was just announced. what makes you think in these
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final days of the biden administration that benjamin netanyahu would agree to peace in gaza or agree to peace in lebanon and not hold on to that political capitol for the new president? >> prime minister netanyahu will make his decisions and he'll speak to his decisions. here's what i see. first, in gaza, it really today is not israel that is standing in the way of a cease-fire hostage deal, it is hamas. israel has said they are prepared and try to build on that to get all of the hostages home. >> duo you know what senator haggerty was talking about? >> i don't know what the particular statement was. whatever hamas is saying publicly, what they are communicating to the mediators is no. what we need to do is get the rest of the world to continue to increase pressure on hamas to come to the table to do a deal in gaza because the israeli government has said it's prepared to take a temporary step in that direction. then when it comes to lebanon,
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we have been actively engaged in p discussions with the israeli government. those should remain behind closed doors, but we do believe that at some point the israeli government wants to do a deal that gets its citizens back home. i don't think it's doing that deal for american politics. i think it's doing that deal to try to secure israel and i expect that in the coming weeks we will see progress in that direction. >> will you hold israel to account? because the secretaries of state and defense have sent letters saying they're not allowing an aid to the degree they should and there are possibly forced displacements from gaza. on this program you have said that was essentially a red line. >> basically what you have seen from secretary austin and secretary blinken is a letter to their israeli counterparts that says here is a set of steps we expect you to take and we are going to measure you against the progress you're making towards those steps. this week we will make our judgments about what kind of progress they have made and then secretary austin, secretary blinken, the president will make
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judgments about what we're going to do in response. i'm not going to get ahead of that. >> very quickly president xi and president biden will be in the same place. will the president confront him? >> president biden every time he sees his chinese counterpart, president xi, speaks to him about cyber enabled espionage. >> this is a significant attack. >> yes, it is. absolutely significant attack. something the fbi, our department of homeland security and our entire national security enterprise is digging into in a big way. it will be on the agenda between every american official and every chinese official in the weeks ahead. >> jake sullivan, a lot happening in the world. thank you for coming in and talking to us. we'll be right back with a lot more "face the nation."
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