monica: mm-mm. mm-hmm. if it bothers you that much, just go out and get the shoes. no. don't do this. this is stupid! i don't have to prove anything. i'm going to go get them. but then everyone will know. unless i get them and then wake up really early and put them back. i need help. i'm margaret brennan in washington. this week on "face the nation,"

our interview with the new vice president, j.d. vance. washington has been a whirlwind of activity in the first week of the trump 2.0 administration. what's real? what's just on the president's wish list? mr. vice president, we will dive in. >> ready to go. >> it's a new era of governing in the nation's capital. you will hear what the vp has to say about immigration, lowering prices for american consumers, reforming the agency that handles disaster aid, those tech titans supporting trump and the pardons of 1,500 people charged with crimes in the january 6 capitol attack. plus, house republican mike turner and democrat jason crowe. it's just ahead on "face the nation." good morning. we want to get right to our interview with j.d. vance, his first since taking office. we spoke with him yesterday in a

ceremonial office adjacent to the white house. pete hegseth, it was a tie. bipartisan opposition, smallest margin since the job was created. you had to break that. how is he going to lead 3 million people? >> i think pete is a disrupter. people don't like that. that disruption is necessary. if you think about all of those bipartisan massive votes, we have to ask ourselves, what do they get us? a country where we fought wars over the last 40 years but haven't won a war about as long as i've been alive. they have a military with a recruitment crisis. a procurement process where we buy airlines for billions of dollars, delivery dates are delayed. we need a change. there are people who don't like that change. it's necessary and it's explicitly what donald j. trump ran on and why the american people elected him. >> the main objective is

changing all of that? it's pete hegseth alone? >> the main problem is -- excuse me, the main thing we want pete hegseth to do is fix the problems at the department of defense. there are many. we have gotten into way too many wars that we don't have a plan for winning. we have gotten into way too many misadventures that we shouldn't have got into in the first place. our procurement process is incredibly broken. >> those are policy decisions. >> of course. but they are logistical and implementation decisions. look where we are with the rise of artificial intelligence, with the rise of drone technology and drone warfare, we have to really top to bottom change the way we fund the procurement of weapons, the way we arm our troops. we think pete hegseth is the guy. there's another element to this. we believe that military morale, until the election of president tru trump, was low. the army missing recruitment goals by tens of thousands of

soldiers. recruitment is starting to pick up because pete hegseth is a war fighter's leader at the department of defense. he sees not through the perspective of the generals or the bureaucrats. he looks at things through the perspective of the men and women we send off to fight. >> both "the wall street journal" and "the national review," conservative publications have been critical of tulsi gabbard. they called her an atrocious nominee. they compared her defense of edward snowdon to an attorney general who thinks the mob gets a bad wrap. she's like a nominee for omb director not being able to count. does any of this give you pause putting her in charge of the u.s. intelligence community? yes or no? >> these are publications that attacked donald j. trump obse obsessively. they don't determine who the president is. >> ultimately, supported him. >> donald j. trump is the person

who determines who his cabinet is. not these publications that i think frankly have lost relevance. >> the senate will decide. >> the senate will provide advice and consent as is its constitutional obligation. i feel confident tulsi will get through. two things to know. first of all, she's a career military servant who has had a classification at the highest levels for nearly two decades. she has impeccable character, impeccable record of service. she also is a person who i think is going to bring trust back to the intelligence services. the bureaucrats at our intelligence services have gotten out of control. they have been part of the weaponization of our political system, the weaponization of our justice system. we need to have good intelligence services who keep us safe. part is restoring trust in the services. >> she doesn't trust those intelligence services. >> she recognizes the bureaucrats have gotten out of control. we need somebody there who will

reign them in and return the services to their core mission of identifying information that's going to keep us safe. >> you campaigned on lowering prices for consumers. we have seen all of these executive orders. which one lowers prices? >> we have done a lot. there have been a number of executive orders that have caused already jobs to start coming back into our country, which is a core part of lowering prices. more capital investment, job creation is one of the things that's going to drive down prices. also raise wages so people can afford to buy things they need. >> grocery prices aren't going to come down? >> prices are going to come down. it's going to take a little time. the president has been president for all of five days. i think in those five days, he has accomplished more than joe biden did in four years. it has been an incredible breakneck pace of activity. we will work with congress. we will have more executive orders. we will try -- the way you lower

prices is you encourage more capital investment into our country. yes, specifically, what executive order is going to help lower prices? all of the stuff that we have done on energy to explore more energy reserves, develop more energy resources in the united states of america. one of the main drivers of increased prices is that we had a massive increase in energy prices. donald trump has taken multiple executive actions that will lower energy prices. i do believe that means consumers will see lower prices at the pump and at the grocery store. it's going to take a little time. rome wasn't built in a day. we have done a lot. we can't undo all of the damage of joe biden's presidency in four days. >> there are a lot of things that contributed to higher energy prices. record oil and gas production. >> zjoe biden did many things t lead to the increase. >> all the things at the grocery store, what people touch and store, you were talking about bacon. those things, when do consumers

get to touch and feel a difference? >> how does bacon get to the store? it comes on trucks fuelled by diesel fuel. if the diesel is too expensive, bacon is more expensive. how do we grow bacon? farmers need energy to produce it. if we lower energy prices, we will see lower prices for consumers. that's what we are trying to fight for. >> the flurry of executive orders, most weren't about the economy. many of them -- >> many were. we had -- >> a promise of tariffs by february 1st. >> we have taken over 200 executive actions, some executive orders, other actions. this is in less than a week. a lot of them were focused on the economy, bring investment into the country and lower energy prices. we have focused on safety, restoring public safety, ending weaponization of the department of justice. we have done a lot. the president is to be commended for actually coming and doing something with this incredible mandate the american people gave him. he is not sitting in the oval office doing nothing. he is doing the american

people's business. i think they will see a lot of good affects from it. >> a lot of the announcements have yet to take affect. the president did say he wants to do something with an executive order in relation to federal emergency response. he said he may reform or eliminate fema. instead of sending emergency responders, he may send a percentage of money to states to take care of themselves. fema has specialized expertise that some of the states don't have. >> margaret, i wish -- >> states who are lower income states, the mississippis, kentuckys, the alabamas, be able to do this for themselves without federal help? >> the president is not saying we're going to leave anybody behind. he is saying that the way we administer the resources, some of which is coming from the federal level, some coming from the state level, we have to get the bureaucrats out of the way and get the aid to the people who need it most. >> these are the first responders. >> you talk about the expertise from fema. fema in north carolina and

california and florida with some of the hurricanes has often been a disaster. it's not because we don't have good people atrop fema. it's because red tape pre prevents -- >> the states have to do this in. >> the president is trying to get resources to people -- >> don't take him literally? >> we should take the president at his word that fema needs reform because it does. when i went to north carolina as vp-elect, before we were sworn in, people would talk about how fema would get resources, food, medicine, water to a warehouse but then would have no plan to get it from the warehouse to the people in the mountains who were literally starving and thirsting to death. we can do better. under donald trump's leadership, we will. >> they work with the state and local officials. >> they often don't work well enough. that's going to be --

>> that's on state and local officials? >> fema management officials don't work with state and local officials to get resources to people. this is one of the fundamental premises of president trump's leadership. the american people should expect more of their government. whether when there's a disaster, they should expect food, medicine and water to get to people. when there's a fire in california, the fire hydrants should turn on. i am sick of the american people having such low expectations for the government. they should demand more of us because it's the greatest country in the world. that's what donald trump's leadership promises to bring back. >> still count on the federal government but watch that space. let me ask you about another area that you campaigned on quite a lot. there was a flurry of activity on. that has to do with immigration. catholic bishops condemned some of the executive orders signed by president trump, specifically those allowing immigration and customs enforcement to enter

churches and schools. do you personally support the idea of conducting a raid or enforcement action in a church service, at a school? >> let me address this. of course, if you have a person who is convicted of a violent crime, whether they are an illegal immigrant or not, you have to go and get that person to protect the public safety. that's not unique to immigration. let me address this issue, margaret. as a practicing catholic, i was heartbroken by that statement. i think the u.s. conference of catholic bishops needs to look in the mirror and recognize that when they receive over $100 million to help resettle illegal immigrants, are they worried about humanitarian concerns? are they worried about their bottom line? we are going to enforce immigration law, protect the american people. donald trump promised to do that. i believe the u.s. conference of catholic bishops, if they are worried about the humanitarian cost of immigration enforcement, let them talk about the children

sex trafficked because of the wide open border of joe biden. >> you support them going into schools and churches? >> people murdered. i support us doing law enforcement against violent criminals, whether they are illegal or anybody else in a way that keeps us safe. let me ask this -- separate the immigration issue. if you had a violent murdered in a school, of course i want law enforcement to get that person out. >> of course. >> what's the point of the question? >> you changed the regulation this week. that's the point. >> exactly. >> giving the authority to go into churches and go into schools. >> we empowered law enforcement to enforce the law everywhere to protect americans. >> that has a knock-on affect, a chilling affect to people to not send their kids to school. >> i hope it has a chilling affect on illegal immigrants coming to our country. >> u.s. conference of catholic bishops are actively hiding criminals? >> i think the u.s. conference of catholic bishops has not been a good partner in common sense immigration enforcement that the american people voted for.

i hope again as a devout catholic that they will do better. >> five legal challenges to one of the other immigration actions, the order on birth right citizenship. a federal judge appointed by ronald reagan, i think you would agree, has some conservative credentials, paused the order to end birth right citizenship calling it blatantly unconstitutional. how do you reconcile this challenge to the 14thconstituti? >> i disagree with the judge. here is the basic idea of president trump's view on this. if you are a lawful permanent resident or a legal immigrant who plans to stay, your children, of course, should be become american citizens. let's say you have the child of an ambassador -- >> that's not part of it. there's a carveout for kids of diplomats. >> that carveout should apply to anybody who doesn't plan to stay here. if you come here on vacation and you have a baby in an american

hospital, that baby doesn't become an american citizen. if you are an illegal alien and you come here temporarily, hopefully, your child doesn't become an american citizen by virtue of having been born on american soil. it's a very basic principal in american immigration law that if you want to become an american citizen and you have done it the right way and the american people in their collective wisdom have welcomed you into our national community, then you become a citizen. temporary residents, people who come in whether legally or illegally and don't plan to stay, their children shouldn't become american citizens. i don't know any country that does that or why we would be different. >> this is a country founded by immigrants. this is a unique country. >> this is a very unique country. it was founded by some immigrants and some settlers. just because we were founded by immigrants doesn't mean 240 years later we have to have the dumbest immigration policy in the world. no country says temporary visitors, their children will be given complete access to the

benefits and blessings of american citizenship. america should actually look out for the interests of our citizens first. that means if you are here permanently and lawfully, your kid becomes an american citizen. if you are not here permanently, if you are not subject to the jurisdiction of the united states and don't plan to be, why would we make those people's children american citizens permanently? >> i want to ask about refugee admissions. that has nothing to do with the u.s. border. refugee screening takes 18 to 24 months to go through. they are heavily vetted. left literally at the airport this week were thousands of afghans who some of whom worked with the united states government and were promised to come here. when you talked to us in august, you said, i don't think we should abandon anybody who has been vetted and helped us. do you stand by that? >> i don't agree that all of the immigrants or all the refugees have been properly vetted. we know that there are cases of

people who allegedly were properly vetted and were planning terrorist attacks. that happened d ed during the campaign. >> there are 30,000 people in the pipeline. do you stand by it. >> look after the american people. now that we know -- >> so no? >> we have vetting problems with the refugee programs. we cannot unleash thousands of unvetted people into our country. >> these people are vetted. these people with vetted. >> like the guy who planned a terrorist attack? he was allegedly properly vetted. many people in the media and democratic party said he was properly vetted. clearly, he wasn't. i don't want my children to share a neighborhood with people who are not properly vetted. because i don't want it for my kids, i'm not going to force any other american citizen's kids to do that. >> it wasn't clear if he was radicalized while he was here. >> i don't want him in my country. >> we will be back in one minute

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we are back with more from our conversation with the vice president. two weeks ago you were on fox news. you said if you protested peacefully on january 6 and had garland's department of justice treat you like a gang member, you should be pardoned. if you committed violence on that day, obviously, you shouldn't be pardoned. did you counsel the president against the blanket pardons for 1,500 people? including those who committed violence. >> i notice you cut off the thing that i said immediately after that. the full quote is that, of course, there are gray areas. here is the nature of the gray area. garland's department of justice denied constitutional protections. there were double standards in how sentences were applied to the protesters versus other groups. what the president consistently on the campaign -- >> case by case basis.

>> he would like at a case by case basis. that's what we did. we looked at 1,600 cases. the thing that came out of it is that there was a massive denial of due process of liberty and a lot of people were denied their constitutional rights. the president believes that. i believe that. i think he made the right decision. >> daniel rodriguez used an electric shock device. ronald mcabee held a cop down and others assailed him for over 20 seconds causing a concussion. if you stand with law enforcement, how can you call these people unjustly imprisoned? >> you are separating -- there's an important issue here. there's what the people actually did on january 6. we're not saying everybody did everything perfectly. what did merrick garland's department of justice do in

unjustly prosecuting well over 1,000 americans in a way that was politically -- >> is violent like that against a police officer justified? >> violence against a police officer is not justified. that doesn't mean that you should have merrick garland's weaponized department of justice expose you to incredibly unfair process, to denial of constitutional rights and to a double standard not applied to many people, including the blac over two dozen people and never had the weight of a weaponized department of justice come against them. the pardon power is not just for people who are angels or people who are perfect. of course, we love our law enforcement and want people to be peaceful with everybody but especially with our good cops. that's a separate issue from what garland's department of justice did. we rectified a wrong. i stand by it. >> i'm being told we're out of time. i want to ask you, the richest men this the world were at the capital on inauguration day.

heads of amazon, google. mark zuckerberg of facebook. you said google and facebook are too big. break them up. don't let them control what people are allowed to say. they have donated to the trump inauguration. are you still going to break up big tech? >> you know who else was there? my mom. a lot of people who supported the president and fought every single day to get his election. >> they did $1 million each to the inauguration. >> there are a lot of people who didn't give $1 million. >> they got good seating. >> they didn't have as good seating as my mom. we believe fundamentally that big tech does have too much power. there are two ways they can go about this. they can respect americans' constitutional rights. they can stop engaging in s cens censorship. if they don't, you can be sure that donald trump's leadership is not going to look kindly. >> they are on notice? >> very much on notice.

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we turn to congressman mike turner. good morning. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> a lot to get to. i want to ask about breaking news that president trump fired 15 inspectors general. the federal watchdogs who monitor for waste, fraud and abuse. he didn't give 30 days notice as legally required. does this concern you the agencies can't police themselves? >> this is very common that there's turnover when a new president comes in to do a review of what's happening within these agencies and in the igs. i think there will be review as they put individuals back. some of the individuals will be replaced, obviously. clearly, they need to bring in their own team. they need to look at what the performance is for the individuals. it's common as new administrations come in that these positions be replaced. >> you are not concerned these are going to be loyalists?

>> every administration replaces them. they tend -- what i have seen, i think what we have seen throughout all administrations are these are incredibly professional individuals that are great watchdogs. i think we will see that. >> what should happen now that the cia released the low confidence assessment that it was a lab leak, a research experiment, versus naturally occurring virus that resulted in the covid pandemic? >> the biden administration has been an impediment. they ordered declassifying the information concerning the lab leak theory and the issues with respect to covid origins. the administration refused to release it. this is a great start. it's been unfortunate the administration has been slow -- it's a good turning point. clearly, this was not of natural

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