i'm margaret brennan in washington and this week on "face the nation" -- president trump picks a fight with america's top trade part iners. federal workers brace for another week. and the fallout continues from mr. trump claiming diversity problems for the midair collision of an army blackhawk and a passenger jet.

washington and the rest of the world are waking up to what feels like a new reality show as president trump continues to make good on his campaign promises. despite the confusion and controversy surrounding some of them, we'll talk with the top democrat on the senate intelligence committee, virginia's mark warner. vermont independent bernie sanders. the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, republican brian mast. on the good news front, american keith siegel has a happy family reunion following his release from hamas captivity. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." one of the president's biggest campaign promises was to enact steep tariffs on canada, mexico and china. saturday night, he did just that, and the move has already sparked international backlash and sent chills through the

financial world. we begin with senior white house and political correspondent ed o'keefe who is traveling with secretary of state marco rubio in panama. ed? >> reporter: margaret, good morning. these are sweeping tariffs, the president using a 1977 law to suggest there is now an extraordinary threat from fentanyl and illegal immigration and that all three countries are failing to address those challenges. starting tuesday, there will be 25% tariffs on all mexican exports, 25% tariffs on most canadian exports, 10% tariffs on canadian energy exports and 10% tariffs on all goods from china. the president acknowledged this could lead to higher prices, some pain, maybe, maybe not he wrote on his social media platform, but we will make america great again and it will all be worth the price that must be paid. >> this has triggered a trade war. canada's prime minister announced tariffs on beer, bourbon, wine, clothing, fruits,

appliances. what else should we expect is coming that could hurt american consumers? >> reporter: well, we should anticipate there could be a tit-for-tat here because the orders that the president signed saturday night give him the authority to keep raising tariffs on the three countries if they respond in kind and that could contribute to an uptick in inflation which we've seen in weeks. the canadian prime minister justin trudeau spoke to americans last night warning the tariffs, quote, will us your jobs at risk, potentially shutting down american auto assembly plants and other manufacturing facilities and canada's planned dollar for dollar tariffs will raise grocery and gas pricings. while president trump accused mexico of having an lalliance with cartels. and china says it firmly deploers and opposes this move and will take counter measures to defend its rights and interests. it is planning to protests these tariffs to the world health

organization. >> ed, what's on secretary rubio's agenda in panama? >> reporter: rubio the first latino secretary of state, so he is taking his first overseas mission here to central america and the caribbean to reiterate president trump's concern that china now has too much influence over the panama canal. the panamanians insist they have full control. >> thanks, ed. to virginia democratic senator mark warner, the vice chairman of the senate intelligence committee, and joins us from palm beach, florida. good morning to you, senator. >> good morning, margaret. >> do you have any sense yet what the cost of these tariffs could be for virginia, which does have a wine industry, for example? >> yeah. first of all, i think we might want to call this the donald trump super bowl tax, with the big game coming next week, if you -- avocados, tomatoes, beer from mexico, prices going to go up.

the question around cars, i read already about $3,000 of an additional price on cars, up to 10,000 on trucks, because we've actually integrated very well our auto production with canada and mexico. i think as well about the fact for years we've been encouraging businesses to leave china and near shore to a place like mexico, and now that is going to end up costing consumers more. for industries like ours like the wine industry, where we are growing rapidly in virginia, those folks are going to get socked as well. this is -- remember donald trump got hired trying to lower -- saying he was going to lower grocery prices. two weeks in he's doing something that's going to do the opposite. >> we will track the impact of this trade war. senator, i want to switch topics. you are, as we said, the vice chairman of the senate intelligence committee. we watched that hearing this week for tulsi gabbard. she had two particular exchanges with republican senators, todd

young and james lankford, who pressed her to say that edward snowden was a traitor. lankford said it was a softball but listen to what happened. >> did he betray a duty? did he betray the trust of the american people? which is, according to merriam webster, that's the definition of a traitor. >> edward snowden broke the law, and he released this information in a way that he should not have. he also acknowledged and exposed information that was unconstitutional. >> was he a traitor this time when he took america's secrets, released them and ran to china and became a russian citizen. >> i'm focused on the future and how we can prevent something like this from happening again. >> you work with these senators. the republicans and you're from a different party, but when you speak to them privately, do you think they can get over that, her refusal to call him a traitor and actually vote to confirm her, or move her out of

committee? >> listen, margaret, edward snowden released more information probably did as much damage to our intelligence community as anyone in history. the fact that miss gabbard, who had legislation to pardon edward snowden, called him a brave whistleblower, couldn't bring herself to call him a traitor, i think is disqualifying just on plain judgment. what would that -- what signal, if she got in, would that sends to the workers or contractors? is she going to enforce the law if she called snowed an brave whistleblower. ? what i'm concerned about is, our sharing of information with our allies that's not written into law, that's based on trust. >> right. >> will they trust to share their intelligence with us if she can't call out one of the worst traitors in recent american history as such, as a traitsor? >> do you think she can make it out of committee to a full vote on the floor of the senate?

>> i know there are a number -- our committee is historically the most bipartisan. we check our partisan hats at the door. there is enormous maga pressure put on senators who are willing to stand up. we'll know this coming week. it's not just snowden. it was america's most powerful intelligence tool as a law called -- or something we call section 702. she left us totally confused on her views on that and as well, her lack of judgment, whether it's going to visit assad, when he was head of syria, taking trips paid for by sketchy groups or echoing putin's comments that somehow nato started the war in ukraine. >> right. >> that is not the judgment of somebody who would run 18 intelligence agencies. >> we will watch to see those republican senators. i want to ask you as well about what's happening at the fbi and the justice department. president trump, he campaigned on this promise to restructure the government. seems like he's implementing

that this week. so far between the fbi and justice department, we've seen at least 20 terminations. some are calling this a purge, but is it overstating it if we're seeing 20 people lose their jobs? >> well, if you were suddenly taking out the most experienced folks at justice or at the fbi, how does that make us stronger? what he's saying every fbi agent that somehow touched the january 6th investigation, that was a comprehensive investigation, i've been told there were almost half of all fbi agents, at least, had some involvement. this was a case that was taken up against these rioters all across the country. if you're suddenly going to get rid of all of those, that could be thousands. >> yeah. >> what does that mean for our cyber security, for our stopping fentanyl and other drugs and serious crime investigations? this would be devastating. >> well, that's -- our reporting

is that the order was for a list to be draw up of those 1500 or so people who worked on those cases. we're going to try to get to the bottom of whether they're going to be fired. >> margaret, we've seen -- >> it's not clear -- >> we've seen, you get your name on these lists, it's like trump's potentially illegal offer to buy out all the federal employees, where we have no money in the budget for, but we had a great tragedy this week in d.c. with the crash. >> yeah. >> we are already short air traffic controllers. if suddenly 2,000 or 3,000 air traffic controllers were to say i'm going to take this buyout, our air space couldn't operate. yet, he's doing this recklessly. >> is it being offered to them? >> without legal authority -- >> pardon in? >> is it being offered to air traffic controllers? >> all federal employees. my understanding went out to 2 million this offer, opm does not have that authority to start

with, that's who it came from, it is -- i can tell you lots of federal employees. we got chaos on steroids going on. we had heard from trump's supporters, the omb director he wanted to traumatize federal workers. that is happening. these are the folks that inspect our fruit, our milk, our eggs, you know, what happens if they all quit? >> i want to ask you -- and i know many of those people live in the state of virginia, they are your constituents -- i want to ask you about your former partner on the intelligence committee, marco rubio, now secretary of state. he told a podcaster this week the president made the decision to cancel security protection for secretary of state mike pompeo who served during the first term because he looked through a threat versus a cost risk assessment. i know you're briefed on intelligence. did the threat from iran to assassinate former u.s. officials go away?

>> no. i have seen no intelligence that would indicate that threat has been diminished. >> secretary rubio endorsed this. >> listen, i have not seen any intelligence and here i agree with my partner tom cotton, the now chair of the intel committee, we've seen nothing to indicate less threat. also taking out, for example, down the security detail for former general chief of staff of mark milley. this is all about retribution. he's putting people's lives in danger and i wish more could stand up. >> senator, thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. "face the nation" will be back in a minute. stay with us. the same way, you . the fearless investor. the type a cpa. the boot strapper. the boot maker. hee-ha. but many do have something in common. we all trust schwab with our wealth.

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florida. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i want to start first on the tariffs that were announced overnight by president trump. you know there is a free trade agreement with mexico and canada. president trump negotiated it during his first term. the tariffs may violate that deal. if he's invoking tariffs on a national security basis, can you explain the threat posed by canada? >> yeah. he was -- president trump was very specific in his executive order outlined that it is related to fentanyl, it's specifically related to human trafficking, and there's a trust but verify situation -- >> through canada? >> through canada as well. absolutely. fentanyl through canada, human trafficking through canada, also with china in that mix for fentanyl as well. that was outlined in it. and until that comes to an end, this is what's going to be on the table and bear in mind as well that usmca reauthorization is coming up in the coming months and years. >> you don't believe this

violates the trade agreement, the treaty? >> the violation has been to the united states of america. it's been to our sovereignty, it's been to our people. >> congress votes on these. >> i will make sure as the foreign affairs chairman we give every single authority as we go through state department reauthorization to make sure that this moves forward as well as purging of people throughout the state department, other agencies, where we're freezing aid, these are all very important and necessary steps to make sure that we secure america and we're going to support that. >> i'm sorry. can i follow up on what you said. >> please do. >> you want to authorize purging of state department personnel. what does that mean exactly? >> if you want to take a look at the state department where dei has been a priority over let's say diplomacy in many account, i can give you hundreds of examples. >> what proof do you have of that? >> sure. let's list them. half a million to expand eight sism in nepal, $50,000 to do a transgender in colombia, $47,000 to do an lbgtq trans comic book

in peru, $20,000 to do drag shows in ecuador. shall i continue? >> seems like there could be a review of things. foreign aid is less than 1% of the federal budget so we're talking small amounts of money by comparison. >> we're still talking about tens of billions of dollars. and if you want to go to somebody else on the other side of the aisle, samantha powers, had a worthy goal, stupid goal, hoping to get the amount of foreign u.s. aid dollars that go to aid up to 30 cents on the dollar from 10 cents on the dollar. that's a major problem that we have this agency that that's all that goes abroad which the american workers' dollar. >> now talking about the usaid -- >> yes. >> agency which is a separate from the state department currently and has about $40 billion worth -- >> likely going to be rolled more closely under secretary -- >> tell me about that. that's where i was going. has the trump administration

informed you of plans to dismantle or significantly sh ring this agency? >> this is something i'm working on specifically in conjunction with secretary rubio to make sure there's the appropriate command and control of these agencies where, again, to make that same point. >> they already report to secretary of state. >> 10 to 30 cents on the dollar is what goes to aid. there's not the right amount of command and control that's going on with the way that it's set up currently. >> congress -- >> another point on this as well, most of these dollars -- most of these dollars that go out of usaid, 70 plus percent, don't come from u.s. farmers, ranchers or u.s. ports. that's another problem for america. >> so i'm sorry, congress already authorizes earmarks the funding. to be clear, you're not endorsing getting rid of usaid as a separate department, which already reports to the secretary of state, are you? >> i would be absolutely for, if

that's the path we go down, removing usaid as a separate department and fall under one of the other parts of department of state because of its failure. i went over the numbers twice with you in the amount of aid that makes it into the hands. i mean you could almost say this is a little bit hyperbole but probably more dollars that go to state dinners around the d.c. beltway than into rice and beans abroad. that's the state of what's going on with usaid. samantha powers said no less herself. >> every administration authorizes reviews, could increase efficiencies, plenty of people who propose bringing it more under the authority of the state department, madeleine albright tried to do that. that's not a new maga idea. the question here is about how you do it. do you still believe that in the laws signed in in the 1960s, that congress has to sign off on any changes to usaid or do you

think president trump can just make all of this happen through executive order? >> so all of those examples that you just gave of those historical figure, the difference is, now the job is going to get done. 99.99% cents on the dollar goes towards what it's intended. >> you're talking about -- >> that's what's going to happen. >> efficiency in aid versus restructuring. let me ask you about that. like i said -- >> that requires restructuring 100%. you can't create that efficiency just by wishing it into existence. you have to restructure where the failures are and put the right things in place. >> of course. but what we're hearing from many aid organizations and officials is that can you restructure after you finish the review and not freeze funding now immediately? i spoke to former usaid global health head yesterday, and he told me this isn't a pause in foreign aid. it is a demolition of usaid. as he put it, you can't pause a

flight in midair. that's what's happening. this immediate freeze in funding is stopping agencies in the field from being able to do the work they do. >> let's say why that is so important. let's talk about the real facts on the ground. the trump administration comes in. representatives like myself that do oversight. the agencies will not tell us what they're writing grants for or lie about it or tell the new political appointees under the trump administration i'm just not going to tell you that. those are real things that have happened. so the way that you make them come and answer for where they are actually sending dollars is to say we're freezing that, putting it on hold. you need to come to us and explain why it is you're doing, why you're doing it and where it's saving life and guess what, when they don't come explain something, it begs the question why were they in the first place? >> the contractors have to front the cash and go to the u.s. government for reimbursement. when you put in immediate freeze that means drugs don't get delivered.

that means they don't get distributed. bomb disposal units don't get to go out in places like cambodia and remove ordnance or provide help to people who receive it. that's the pushback from aid organizations who are saying they're going to have to carry out layoffs in the thousands in the week. p>> it doesn't concern me becaue of the gift that has been going on to the american taxpayer, the american worker. that's what needs to be answered for. you look at this, use pepfar as an example, talking about drugs going to individuals. there was a release of that hold that was put -- that was authorized, but it shouldn't be the case that the american people fund hiv and aids drugs for 20 million people across africa, where many of these countries are working very directly with our adversaries like china. that is an example of them taking us for granted. we need to be asking the question, should they be weaning off of this? should we be paying for these very expensive hiv and aids drugs? should the american worker be footing the bill for that? those are questions. >> real questions.

in the meantime people need the drugs while you ask the questions. that's where the disagreement is with the aid organizations. let me ask you about air traffic controllers -- >> not with all the leaders of all the countries. the leader of kenya say this is an example where we need to step up for ourselves and show how we can take care of ourselves and that was the president there. >> i want to ask you, as i was saying, about another committee, transportation committee. the faa hiring policy for air traffic controllers including under the first trump administration, offered equal opportunity to those with targeted disabilities including as the president read, hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial, complete paralysis, severe intellectual disability. the president singled this out, this policy, as a contributor possibly to the crash. do you agree with the diversity policy or do you agree with the president? i know you lost two limbs

serving this country in afghanistan. do you hear those words and take offense to them? or -- >> no offense. let's unpack it. number one, use myself as an example, right. there are things that i am suited to do, no doubt, but flying an aircraft, to stick with the subject at hand would not be one of them. i could fly a personal aircraft but put me in charge of 50 or 150 lives that would not be the right case for me personally given my physical disabilities and foot pedals on aircraft. to go to the diversity side and the crash, yes, there were very real errors that took place both in the air traffic control tower and with the helicopter pilots it seems. but more systemically, is there a hiring problem across all federal agencies to include the faa where they made the priority diversity and inclusion instead of excellence and performance? yes, that's the case. they made the priority appearance and lifestyle and not

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learn more at wounded warriorproject.org/connect we go to independent senator bernie sanders from burlington, vermont. good morning to you, senator. quickly, do you have a sense of the impact of these tariffs on your state? >> well, it's going to be very severe, but this is not the only thing that worries me. margaret, we are living in an unprecedented moment in american history. we're looking at a rapid growth of oligarchy. we're looking at a rapid growth of author stair tare rich, and a rapid growth of kleptocracy as well. i'm going to do everything i can to work with my supporters all over this country to stand up and fight back, to make sure we have an economy that works for everybody, not just elon musk, and that we maintain american

democracy. >> senator, i'm going to have to ask you more about what you mean by that on the other side of this commercial break because i have to take it. stay with us. we hope all of you will as well.

welcome back to "face the nation." we return to our conversation with vermont independent senator bernie sanders. senator, thank you for sticking with us through the break. i want to ask you about some of the rather fiery hearings you were