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good evening. i'm anderson cooper. tonight on "60 minutes presents," a break from the headlines with profiles of three of the biggest names in art and

performance. we'll visit with painter and sculptor jeff koons in his studio to discuss how he creates his controversial artwork. then we join dua lipa. but we begin with comedian kevin hart. there have been plenty of successful standup comedians, but few who have managed to do what kevin hart has. h's built an entertainment and business empire. and last march at 44, he was awarded the mark twain prize for american humor, as close to a lifetime achievement award as you can get. hart's comedy isn't particularly controversial. it's conversational, with a lot of cursing thrown in. he tells revealing stories about his wife and four kids, his embarrassing insecurities, and his many shortcomings. on stage, kevin hart is an open book. but when we sat down with him

last year on one topic, at least, he was a bit hard to pin down. >> "gq" said you're 5'5", the the l.a. times said you're 5'4". and some other place you're 5 2. >> well that place is bull [ muted ] "gq" finally got it right. >> 5'5". >> 5'5". with a sneaker. if i put a boot on, i can get to 5 1/2. it's talking about things you aren't afraid to laugh at yourself. i'm really confident that the laugh that i'm getting, you're not laughing necessarily at me as if i'm a joke. you're laughing at the experience. i'm giving you an experience through a story that is relatable. and more importantly, i'm saying things that other people just

don't have the heart to say. >> i mean, you told a story about your wife watching tall people porn. >> yeah. he was taller than me. >> that was your main issue? >> yeah. why is he so tall? is that what you want? we can have a real conversation off that. is that what you're searching for. >> you can't fix that. >> i can't fix that. we've got a problem. >> one of the sites wasn't even porn. one of the sites was a bunch of tall men being active. they were changing light bulbs. putting [ muted ] on shelves, hanging paintings. what kind of sick [ muted ] is this. she's like, what, you can't do any of that stuff? >> hart is the highest grossing comedian today. he sells out arenas around the world and the occasional football stadium. >> we sold a football stadium out tonight. i need to hear that. >> the world is full of great comedians -- >> when we first met him in january in his offices in los angeles, he was working on new material for an upcoming comedy tour. >> to do an hour comedy special,

how long does it take? how many -- >> you really work on the set eight to nine months. >> are you sitting in a room with your team? >> no. >> no. >> i'm going back to ground zero. >> just small comedy clubs. >> small comedy clubs, rooms. i've got two guys, harry ratchford, joey wells, act as my writers. what they do is they grab my material as i say it. but you can't write it down for me. i don't like the long jokes, the long sentences. it has to be in bullet points. travel, bad. bad travel. why bad travel? makes me drive. driving, good versus bad. everything has a good and a bad. my rule is when i get on stage, i would much rather have the dismantled picture in my head of kind of what i think it is and it not be good and then figure it out in realtime and walk off

stage and go, there was something there. >> reporter: a few hours later, 3,000 people showed up in pasadena to hear hart figure out his new jokes on stage. everyone had to hand over their phones. before he began, hart explained why. >> like, 90% of what i'm going to do tonight i feel like is really good. the reason why i took your phones is because of the other 10%, right? like, just in case. just in case some of it's not, you don't have no proof. >> we agreed not to record any of his routine either. but backstage, we found his collaborators, harry ratchford and joey wells, taking a lot of notes. >> i appreciate y'all. kevin hart, i love you. good night. >> how was this audience? >> this audience was great. great. you could feel the laughter never stopped. that's the beauty of the theater. the theater lets you really feel

the highs and lows of the set. >> there's so much that he wants to do. >> joey wells and harry ranchford along with social media comedians will spank horton and na'im lynn, are among hart's closest friends. >> what are you looking for when he's on a stage and telling a joke, what notes do you have? >> harry is always structured. we should put the joke here and move it around. and for me, i'm always just like, how can it be just a little bit funnier. he might get a standing ovation, i go, that was great, that was great. what if you try this? >> spank and na'im have known hart since he was a teenager growing up in a rough neighborhood in north philadelphia. >> was kevin always as confident as he is today? >> yes. i mean, it was perplexing in the beginning like why does this little ugly dude have this much confidence.

>> what do you think you're doing? he swears he can dance. >> home movies his mom made show hart was always the family entertainer. he lived in a one-bedroom apartment with his brother, robert, and his mom, nancy hart. she kept a close eye on kevin. >> she planned every moment of your day. >> every moment. i had no free time. after finishing my homework, i had to get to swim practice. me and my mom would walk home from practice. the homework i was supposed to do it beforehand, she would check, and end up making me redo it because nine times out of ten, i would rush through it and not get it done. she would make me read. i would skip pages, not expecting the quiz of the book to come. then she would make me read it again. >> do you credit her with the drive you have? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> his mom also kept kevin's dad, henry witherspoon, at a distance. he was in and out of prison and addicted to drugs, which hart talked about in a 2011 standup special called "laugh at my pain." >> i was in a weird, like, spelling bees, debates. here's the thing.

my dad would show up at my events and treat them as if they were athletic events. first of all, you can't cheer for no kid at a spelling bee. it's a spelling bee. it's quiet. i'm focused. i'm in the middle of spelling a very difficult word. my dad shows up late, busts through the back door, high as hell making cokehead noises. all right. once again, i can't cannot make this up. i'm in the middle of spelling some [ muted ] out of nowhere, all i heard was all right, all right, all right. yeah! >> the actual details of stuff he did are really heartbreaking. >> yeah. >> and yet you tell it in a way that's funny. is it heartbreaking to you? >> no because -- >> it must have been at the time. >> i see it for what it was. as a kid, that's dad. by the way, in my environment, that's the norm. it's normal to see your parent drunk or whatever. >> your dad, even in the depths of his drug use, he wanted to see you and your brother. >> yes, sir. there was a period where he

disappeared where i didn't see him in a long time. and i saw him on the subway. he was in bad shape. i was like, dad. he turned around and saw me. the doors opened, my dad walked off and ran. later told me, i ran because it just hurt me for you to see me like that. and that was one of his key factors in going and getting help. >> hart was eventually able to help his dad get clean before he died in 2022. >> my dad is crazy. >> reporter: kevin said his father loved to hear his stories kevin told about him in front of people. when hart started doing standup at 18, he struggled to find places to perform. >> you would take gigs wherever you could get them. >> you're talking bowling alley. if you're talking cabaret, strip clubs -- >> is there a lot of comedy in strip clubs? >> no! no! i don't know who thought that comedy and strippers mix. but i remember one of the most heartbreaking moments being on

stage is, like, in the middle of my set -- >> this is at a strip club. >> and i remember hearing this lady go, oh, baby. >> after you told a joke. >> oh, baby. so disgusted and heart broken that this is what i chose to do with my life. >> hart thought he was about to make it big when he shot a sitcom for abc called "the big house" in 2003. >> my god! it's little kevin hart! >> the network flew him out to present the show to advertisers and the media. >> i'm next to walk on stage so you can announce "the big house." you're the guy with the microphone backstage managing. this is what i say, he's right here. i'm ready. all right. i'll tell him right now. kevin, hold up one second. they just said they're not going to go through with picking up. celeste will be back here to talk to you shortly. what does that mean? >> the guy with the microphone is telling you that your series is not being picked up by the network. >> not the network exec.

>> not the ceo of disney coming out to say, hey -- >> no, no, no. a guy named barry in the back holding the curtain. >> it was only because of that rejection -- >> i don't want to feel that. i don't like that you got to hire me when you're ready. you're saying that my career is basically determined off of the needs of people that i don't know and that i don't talk to? i might be sitting here all day if i don't go grab it and i don't go make what i feel should be mine. >> and that is what he did. he started a small production company, now called hartbeat, and began making his own hour-long standup specials. he also marketed himself relentlessly through social media. >> reese! >> high school. >> hollywood studios took notice. >> get on my back. >> i would rather die. >> jump on my back. >> i'm gone die.

>> kevin, what's up? >> when he was picked in 2018 to host the oscars, it seemed like a high point in his career. >> i have nothing against gay people. >> but then comments he made about gay people years earlier on stage and on twitter caused controversy. >> me being a heterosexual male, if i can prevent my son from being gay, i will. >> hart stepped down as the oscars host. >> initially you didn' later on you did. >> well, later on, the understanding came from the best light bulb ever. wanda sykes said, there's people that are being hurt today because of comments like the ones that you made then. and there's people saying, it's okay to make those comments today based off of what you did then. it was presented to me in a way where i couldn't -- i couldn't ignore that. so, in those moments of despair, great understanding and education can come out of it if you're given the opportunity. >> these days, it's hard to keep track of all the businesses hart has a hand in. the weekend we spent with him,

he was in constant motion and promotion, starting with his daily pre-dawn workout. >> "60 minutes," is this what you want? is this what you want? i'm gonna give you what you want. >> then he was off to walmart to publicize a nutrition supplement company he owns. >> you want to reach people. >> you're a real person. >> i am. >> a fast food chain he started shut down in december, but he also has a tequila brand and a $100 million venture capital fund. >> cheers. >> and hartbeat, that little production company he started is now worth more than $650 million in 2022. >> i'm no longer just a comedian. i'm an investment. i'm a studio. i'm a partner looking for partnerships. work for hire is not in my best interest if it's a one and done situation. >> that means the endless stream of movies, shows, podcasts, and commercials kevin hart pops up

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jeff koons is one of the most prominent and polarizing art stars in the world. perhaps you've seen one of his giant balloon dog sculptures or the stainless steel inflatable

rabbit he made that resold for $91 million in 2019, the highest price ever paid at auction for a work by a late artist. i bought a much less expensive work of his at a charity auction about ten years ago. his creations may look simple, but as we first reported in 2023, they can take decades to make and often push the boundaries of technology and tastes. critics may scoff at times, but that's nothing new. jeff koons has been controversial since he first started showing his art more than 40 years ago. you'll find the largest collection of jeff koons' work at the broad museum in los angeles. visiting it is like showing up at a children's party long after the kids have gone to bed. there's a giant painting of a party hat, a porcelain michael jackson and his chimp, bubbles, a kind of pop culture -- the hulk even makes an appearance. the star attraction, a 10â foot tall stainless steel balloon dog structure. koons showed it to us after

hours. >> we had to make machines to make this work. they didn't exist. >> it may look like it's filled with air, but "balloon dog" weighs more than a ton and took jeff koons six years to make. >> i started with a balloon. i blew it up. i twisted a balloon dog. >> did you know how to make a balloon dog? >> no. i just got a little book, and i saw how you do it. i probably made about 50 of them. i made a mold of it, and then that was used to make the stainless steel pieces. you know, originally, when i made this piece, i thought that i could make it for about $300,000, which still, that's a lot of money. but it ended up, just to create the piece, ended up costing me 1.6. and that was more than what i had sold the work for. >> that's classic koons. he's famous for going

over budget, and his obsessive attention to detail is legendary. he spent 20 years figuring out how to turn this mass of aluminum into a ten-foot-tall pile of play-doh. to get these basketballs suspended in the air, he enlisted the help of a nobel prize winning physicist. and he used more than 60,000 living flowers to create this sculpture of a puppy. he often takes famous characters and plays with them. adding a gazing ball to the mona lisa, or he elevates everyday things, making them larger, shinier, or surreal versions of themselves. >> the rabbit's from '86. >> like that rabbit resold six years ago for $91 million. he made four that look at first as if they're just plastic inflatables. but they're highly polished stainless steel and weigh about 150 pounds. >> it's iconic because it can represent so many different things. i can think of easter. i can think of a politician

with a, kind of, a microphone. somebody making proclamations. i can think of a playboy rabbit. i think one of the most important things to me, the reason it's reflective and reflecting you, reflecting me, you know, the viewer finishes a work of art. it's about your feelings, your experiences. it's about your potential. >> maybe you're thinking jeff koons sounds like a phony self-help prophet. plenty of critics do. but he does see art as something that can help people have a personal transformation. >> art can be anything. i mean, it really can be. my personal experience of art is that you just don't have to bring anything to it other than yourself. >> so, your message to people is you don't need to have a thesis in art history to interact with art and what you feel from it is valid? >> it's as valid as anybody else could experience. >> why balloon dogs? why gazing balls and inflatable rabbit? >> memories. you know, around easter time, i would see a lot of inflatable

rabbits in the yards. i would see gazing balls in people's yards in their gardens. our neighbors who do that, i mean, how generous they are for us that we're just driving by or walking by and we can look and we can have a little awe and wonderment just for that second. to me, they're symbols of cultural history. >> koons grew up outside york, pennsylvania in a rural community, where you can still find gazing balls in people's yards. he has eight children, six with his second wife, justine, to whom he's been married 22 years. they still live part time in pennsylvania in koons' grandparents house, part of an 800-acre farm, where they raise >> i think most people don't envision this is the life you have as a world famous artist. >> well, you know, i'm very involved with my work. but on the weekends and summers,

holidays, it's a really important part of my life. >> koons has been drawing and painting since childhood. in 1974 while studying art in college, his mother helped him meet one of his favorite surrealist painters. >> my mother called me and said, i just saw in a magazine that salvador dali spends half his year in new york city at the st. regis hotel. and i thought, oh, okay, maybe i'll call. >> wait a minute, you just thought you'd call him? >> i called the st. regis, i asked for salvador dali's room, and they put me through. i was quite nervous, but i told him i was a fan and that i would enjoy very much to meet him. he said, can you come to new york this weekend on saturday. i said, yes. he said, be in the lobby at 12:00, and i'll meet you then. and he was spectacular. >> it would never have occurred to me to, like, just call salvador dali in his hotel room. >> i had nothing to lose. >> koons and dali spent the afternoon together.

and at the end of it, he asked the world renowned artist to pose for this picture. >> i remember he put his mustache up, and he was telling me, you know, kid, hurry up. i can't hold this pose all day. but i left new york that evening feeling like i could do this. >> after finishing school, he hitchhiked to new york and started making art in his lower east side apartment, buying cheap plastic inflatables and putting them on mirrors. koons had grand ambitions, but he needed cash to realize them. >> eventually i became licensed and registered to sell commodities and mutual funds. that's what i started to do to be able to make more money to make the works. >> that's not a career move a lot of artists make. >> you know, i did it to only -- i could make enough money to make my vacuum cleaner pieces.

>> the vacuum cleaners he's talking about were what first got him noticed in 1980. he bought about 20 brand-new vacuums and displayed them in cases with fluorescent lights. it was part of a series called "the new." >> i was showing them for their newness, that this was a brand-new object, never used. you can see it's clean. it's pristine. its lungs are pure. and there's also some sensual aspects to it too. >> sensual aspects? >> sensual. i mean, you have the handle. you have the bag right there. it could be looked at as masculine. or you could look at it and say, oh, the bag is the womb. >> art definitely is in the eye of the beholder. >> what did you think of jeff koons as an artist when he first came on the scene? >> i was interested in him and i also was kind of repulsed by him. >> robert storr, former dean at the yale school of art, was a curator at the museum of modern art in new york when it acquired some of koons' vacuums in 1986. >> i think some of the work is really unpleasant, but it

doesn't mean it's not serious. >> what's unpleasant about it? >> the imagery is vulgar. vulgar means many things, means of the people rather than of the elites. >> it's taking an object which the new york elites might look at and think, oh, that's tacky, that's trashy, that's something you buy in a gift shop. and it's blowing it up and making it perfect and saying that this has value? >> it has meaning, not necessarily value. but it has meaning. >> what is the message of that? >> the message is that it is there to be embraced, that it is not to be mocked, that one should not be smugly sure of one's own taste to the point of denying the possibility of other tastes. >> and is he being honest about that? >> he's being totally honest. and i think that he has made all of that fair game in a way that we have not seen since warhol. >> like andy warhol, jeff koons has a factory of sorts, an assembly line of painters meticulously following his instructions.

and dozens of digital assistants, sculptors, and craftsmen all over the world helping make his complex pieces, which are often inspired by very simple things. >> this is, like, a very modern grandmother's closet. >> turns out koons was fascinated by his grandparents' porcelain figurines as a child and has collected hundreds of them. >> where did you find this? >> i found it online. >> he decided to make this $50 ballerina into a multimillion dollar eight-foot-tall marble sculpture. but it wound up taking him 12 years. he used a cat-scan machine to digitally map every detail of the figurine inside and out. then it took five years and the help of m.i.t. scientists to turn them into instructions to carve the structure. the actual carving took another seven years. >> now the work will really progress quickly -- >> we went to a workshop in pennsylvania to check on the

progress and found ayami and her team carefully polishing the ballerina by hand. do you have a sense of how many hours of work is done on a piece? >> 33,000. >> 33,000 hours? >> for just the hand work. >> it must be exhausting, the amount of monotony and difficulty to it is incredible. >> yeah. it is a really unique job, i would say. >> that looks like, sort of, a dental tool. what is that? >> that's for suction. >> really? >> you'll notice jeff koons isn't doing the sculpting or painting. he comes up with the ideas and sets the standards, but his artisans do the labor, which has led to criticism, including from our own morley safer. >> what do you say to the man? >> 30 years ago, morley did a story critiquing contemporary art. and likened koons to a p.k. barnum, selling to suckers. >> he doesn't actually paint or sculpt. he commissions craftsmen to do

that while he goes shopping for basketballs and vacuum cleaners. >> is that a legitimate criticism. >> it's a legitimate criticism if you look at art in a way that you kind of want everything to be done by the artist themselves. but it becomes very limited what you can do within one life if you're being responsible for everything. it's, like, the production of this program right now. anderson, if you had to be responsible for the lighting, if you had to be responsible for editing -- >> if i was responsible for the lighting, we wouldn't see you or myself. >> if you had to be responsible for everything, i mean, how many programs would you be able to create? i've designed. i've worked on the systems so that the whole process at the end of the day, it's as if every mark was made by myself. >> at 70, koons has reached a level of commercial success few artists ever imagine. he's helped design cars for bmw,

an album cover for lady gaga, even a super-yacht. and later this year, he hopes to create a permanent art exhibit on the moon. he's made 125 small stainless steel moon sculptures and mounted them on a lunar lander that hitched a ride aboard a spacex rocket. >> is there something about the atmosphere on the moon that would affect the life span of a work? >> almost everything. you know, you have tremendous radiation. you have the temperature change, at least 250 degrees difference from night to day. one of the most inhospitable environments that you could imagine for a work of art. >> the moon sculptures are for sale, of course, along with an nft, or nonfungible token, which serves as digital proof your artwork is actually up there. you'll also get one of these larger moons to show off here on earth. he won't say how much it'll cost you, but with jeff koons, it's a safe bet the price tag will be out of this world.

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at 29, she's now one of the top female recording artists in the world. take a look at what happened last summer when she headlined britain's biggest music festival, glastonbury. she was singing one of the first songs she released nine years ago. back then, hardly anyone knew who dua lipa was. but at glastonbury, 100,000 people came to see her. they sang along to her every word. >> glastonbury as loud as you can! come on. ♪ i can be the one ♪ >> oh, my god. one more time. louder! ♪ i can be the one ♪ >> i love you guys. you're making my dreams come true. ♪ >> it's unbelievable seeing that many people sing back at you. ♪ will you be mine ♪ i couldn't believe that it was happening in that moment, you know? i'd dreamt about being on that stage my whole life.

i'd thought about it, i'd wished it -- >> you'd envisioned it? >> i'd envisioned it so many times. ♪ oh baby come on let me get to know you ♪ ♪ just another chance i'd like to show i won't let you down ♪ >> i'd written down "i want to headline glastonbury on the pyramid stage on the friday night," being very specific about the friday night so i could party afterwards. >> wait a minute, so even in your dream it was do friday night so you could stay -- >> so i could stay saturday, sunday. >> and go out dancing in the crowds. absolutely. >> reporter: dua lipa isn't afraid to admit she enjoys a good time. ♪ and that's what her music is all about. the songs are fun and

flirtatious. she sings of boy breakups and girl power. ♪ late nights and dark clubs. ♪ don't show up ♪ ♪ don't come out ♪ >> it is pure pop, and dua lipa's got no problem with that. >> you're always met with some kind of pushback as a female artist, if you're not, like, with a guitar or with a piano, just like, oh, she can't sing, oh, it's all processed. oh, it's this, oh, it's whatever. i just think there's a stigma around pop music. >> but that's what the music which you wanted to do from the beginning. >> because i loved it. that's the music that makes me get up and dance. ♪ you want me ♪ ♪ i want you baby ♪ >> don't let the laid back demeanor fool you. dua lipa has worked hard and come a long way to make all this look easy. ♪ all right ♪ ♪ come on dance with me ♪ ♪ i'll never take you ♪

>> reporter: dua, whose name means love in albanian. she started singing lesson at 9. her family returned to kosovo at 11. four years later she decided to go back to britain and try and become a pop star. >> that was the plan? >> that was the plan always. >> the pitch to your parents was in order to go to a british university, i need to go to high school in england. >> that was the initial pitch. >> her father is now her manager. >> did you buy that pitch? >> of course i did. she's underplayed the fact that she was always very mature. >> even at 15. >> even at 15. yes it's a little bit crazy, 15 years old she persuaded you to let her go. her maturity and our relationship was -- >> you knew she could handle it. >> of course. >> it sounded like you were a

very confident 15-year-old. >> yeah. i think more confident than i am now. >> i'm dua lipa, 15 years old. >> in london she immediately recorded herself singing covers of her favorite artists and putting the videos on youtube. this is one of the first ones she made in 2011. ♪ >> she was living with a family friend but was pretty much on her own. she skipped school so often she flunked out. >> basically i got expelled and i remember calling my parents and they're like, okay, well, you did this. find yourself a school or you're going to come back to kosovo. ♪ >> she did find another high school and graduated but decided college could wait. her cover songs online had

gotten some notice. just three years after leaving kosovo, 18-year-old dua lipa got a record deal with warner brothers. ♪ baby i'd rather be blind ♪ ♪ than see you walk away ♪ ♪ walk away from me ♪ >> i walked in with a dream of i want to sing, i want to perform and i want to write, but i had no idea of what comes with it, or what other things i have to do, or even what goes into the promotion of a record. ♪ i've been through mountains and seas ♪ >> while working on her first album, she began releasing singles and performing wherever she could. ♪ now i find it harder and harder to breathe ♪ >> we were doing really small shows where the stage was, like, a step above the floor. >> so, how many people, like, for your first performances.

>> about ten. >> ten, wow. >> about ten. >> how many were like friends and family? >> well, none, but they all got offered a drink to come and watch. so, that was how we got them to come and watch. >> it's like puppet show in spinal tap. >> yes, exactly. ♪ talking to myself at night ♪ ♪ making myself crazy ♪ >> that all changed in 2017 when her first album came out and she made this music video in a hotel in miami for a song called "new rules." ♪ one, don't pick up the phone ♪ >> it became her first major hit in america. ♪ >> the album would earn dua lipa two grammys, one of them for best new artist. when she sang "new rules" at the brit awards on live tv in 2018 the reviews were positive, but some viewers' comments online weren't. one in particular went viral. the comment was from somebody

that said, "i love her lack of energy, go girl, give us nothing. >> yeah, it just spread like wildfire that i had no stage presence or i couldn't perform. so i was like, all right, well, i'm just going to prove to you that i can perform and i can dance and i can do all these things. >> dua lipa may have wanted to prove her doubters wrong, but when her second album called "future nostalgia" was ready to be released two years later, the timing could not have been worse. >> my second album came out march 2020 at the very beginning of the pandemic. >> was there any talk of delaying? >> yeah, there was. but because i had spent so long working on it, i was like, this album has to come out. >> with much of the world locked down, it wasn't clear if anyone would want to listen to dance songs or how she could even promote the album.

>> my whole idea was that this is a record that's supposed to be played in the club. >> three days after the album's release, she gamely appeared on the late, late show with james corden. her home had flooded, and she was renting a small studio apartment. >> oh, my god. i was having really -- like, a bad hair day. ♪ crazy ♪ ♪ thinking about the way ♪ ♪ the heartbreak changed me ♪ >> everyone coming together in that living rooms and their kitchens to make this happen, it's crazy. ♪ walk away ♪ ♪ you know how ♪ >>i love that you were in some random apartment. >> yeah, so you can see from there how close i am to, like, the cupboards above, the oven and the stovetop. ♪ >> this is you kicking off the release globally of your album? >> globally of my album.

>> the new album was an extraordinary success, commercially and critically. billboard, "rolling stone," and others called it one of the best of the year, and dua lipa was dubbed the quarantine queen. it worked out in a weird way. >> yeah, it did. it didn't end up being the night club experience, but it ended up being the kitchen dance parties and the sound track to people's workouts at home to kind of keep them sane during that time. >> it also gave people the fantasy of being out at the club? >> being out, i hope so. ♪ ooh what you doing ♪ >> last year she released her third album called "radical optimism" and was rehearsing for a year-long 28-country tour. >> i'm still getting my timing while i'm rehearsing. those first beginning notes, i don't want to, i don't want to,

they're really fast. so i just have to practice to make sure that i don't slow the song down and miss my timing. reporter: in just nine years of releasing music, dua lipa has reached a level of success even she never imagined. ♪ >> her songs have been streamed by fan mrs. than 45 billion times. i saw some writers who've said that in your songs, they don't have a sense of who you are. >> mm. >> you're not pouring out your innermost fears and desires and wants. >> yeah, it's something that i just naturally hold back. some people are just so ruthless with their own private life that they decide to put it all out in a song because they know that it's going to attract people's attention. and for me, it was always important to make music that people really loved, not because

i was putting someone out on blast or not because i'm doing it for the clickbait or maybe at someone else's expense. >> dua lipa's music may not be controversial, but some statements she's made over the past few years about israel have been. she's called the current war in gaza genocide and in 2021 a well-known rabbi took out this full-page ad in "the new york times" criticizing her. >> there was a lot of words kind of thrown at me, things that i don't believe represent who i am or what i believe in at all. i've always only wanted peace really. it's devastating what's happening over there. there's bombs happening between both israel and palestine and children are dying and families are being separated. and it's just devastating to sit back and see it happen. >> some people were saying what you said was anti-semitic and -- >> yeah, yeah.

and it's just not -- i think i was very unfairly treated by "the times." >> did that experience make you reticent to be outspoken again? >> no because it hasn't stopped me from talking about things that i believe in. >> whatever dua lipa's political or personal opinions may be, for now, you won't find them in her music. ♪ she wants that to be something that will help lift you up, get you out, and maybe, just maybe, take a spin on the dance floor. dua lipa's all-night party at glastonbury. >> i'm bloody hot and i'm hungover. >> at 60minutesovertime.com. di? discover the ozempic® tri-zone. i got the power of 3. i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight.

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