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good morning. i'm jane pauley and this is "sunday morning." it should come as no surprise that valentine's day just this past friday is one of the most popular days for couples to get engaged. as the saying goes, first comes love, then comes marriage, and a vow to love each other for better or for worse. unfortunately, for some what comes next is indeed for worse. followed by thoughts of separation, even divorce. but as susan spencer had explain, acting on those thoughts isn't always the best way forward. >> i would make a suggestion. ask them if they had a marriage counselor. >> reporter: divorce lawyer

robert cohen has been helping couples uncouple for 30 years. it might surprise you to learn what he really thinks about divorce. >> the world would be better, our kids would be better, families would be better if there wasn't divorce. >> reporter: the pros and cons of calling it quits ahead on "sunday morning." for countless stars uttering the words live from new york, it's saturday night is a dream come true. for 50 years now those words have introduced what's become an american comedy institution. "saturday night live." mo rocca takes us inside "snl's" milestone celebration. >> live from new york, it's saturday night! >> reporter: without "saturday night live," we never would have met roseanne roseannadanna. >> dear roseanne roseannadanna. >> reporter: wayne and garth. >> it's pretty hard.

>> reporter: or debbie downer. >> the term debbie downer, this did not exist before this sketch, right? >> no. it didn't. but people are like that term was around before. i challenge you. >> reporter: coming up, half a century of "snl." the academy awards are just two weeks off, which explains tracy smith's visit with actor edward norton, up for an oscar for the fourth time for his supporting role in the bob dylan bio-pic "a complete unknown." >> what do you want me to do? hit you? >> reporter: edward norton has created some of the most memorable film characters ever. >> what's the problem? >> reporter: not bad for a guy who was once told he'd never make it in the biz. was there a casting director who told you find another profession? >> there was. yeah. i had one of those like someone sits you down and says should do something else. ♪

>> reporter: in two with the unstoppable edward norton later on "sunday morning." author-illustrator david macaulay has been called america's explainer-in-chief. morning he shares his imaginative world with martha teichner. conor knighton visits the texas animal sanctuary run by the humane society of the united states. all manner of species find ref ewing and peace. with significant job cuts looming, robert costa looks at some surprising and invaluable contributions from the federal workforce. plus, a love story from steve hartman. commentary from our one-time cbs news colleague marvin kalb. and more on this sunday morning for the 16th of february, 2025. we'll be back in a moment. ♪

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on this valentine's day weekend, susan spencer starts us off with a most unusual take on

love and marriage. >> reporter: danielle and adam silverstein met in high school in 1995, and agree their remans was picture perfect. marriage has been a different story. >> it's complicated. >> it's complicated. >> yeah, it is. >> nobody would argue with that. >> i say 'til death do us part is a really long time. you know? it is a really long time. >> reporter: they have been married a really long time, more than two decades. but a year ago they nearly called it quits. >> we were really, really like, disconnected. i mean, only speaking to each other when we had to. >> we had blowouts. big arguments. >> reporter: tears? >> oh, sure. >> reporter: in a last-ditch effort to reconnect, they agreed on what they called a 30-day

challenge. for a month each promised to change one thing that the other wanted. things got better, then better still, and today they say they are closer than ever. have you reached any conclusion as to what it is that makes people divorce? you managed to avoid it. a lot of people don't. >> i think for us why we are not, and i don't know about anybody else's relationships so i can't speak for anybody but us, we just have this bond and consecutive and unique, i think, love that i don' think can be broken. we tried. many times. >> yeah. >> and it hasn't worked. >> reporter: they are not unique. divorce rates in america have been dropping for a while. down 27% between 2012 and 2022. >> for so many it's been their life. >> reporter: couples therapist marissa nelson gives her profession some of the credit. what is the main reason, if

there is one, that couples turn up at your door? >> well, i would be in bora bora on the beach for a dollar everybody time somebody said we had communication issues. >> reporter: what's the real reason? >> longing, loneliness. people are longing to be wanted. >> reporter: why is this hard? >> because life sometimes is hard. >> reporter: so hard, in fact, that the washington, d.c., therapist says saving the marriage isn't always the answer. >> as a couples therapist you come out of school and you are doe-eyed and want to save the world. >> reporter: no divorces in your patients at all? >> right, no divorces. as you continue to do work, you understand that there are circumstances and reasons why people choose to uncouple. and for many people that i have had the honor of being able to work with, divorce is probably

the best thing for their relationship and for their children. >> reporter: that's br new york divorce lawyer robert cohen comes in. over three decades he handled as many as a thousand cases, but his clients often share one simple want. >> generally they want to be happier. i don't think it's -- what does that mean? it's very hard. depends on the person. how do you make somebody happier? it's not easy. but i think people just want to be happier. >> reporter: including the rich and famous. cohen has a star-studded cast of clients. >> most recently, melinda gates. i did the gates divorce. i did chris rock's divorce. i helped tracy smith through his divorce. james gandolfini from "the sopranos" sopranos. i am looking over at who i have photographs with. oh rpg i did the christie brinkley divorce. i tried that case in long island. >> reporter: since divorce has built his career, it is shocking

to learn how he really feels about it. >> i think the world would be better, i think our kids would be better. i think families would be better if there wasn't divorce. >> reporter: he even has written an anti-divorce book. your basic advice to anybody coming in here is? you may not want to do this? >> try to stay married if you can. i had a guy come in to see me, 95 years old. i said, you are 95 years old. why are you getting divorced? he said i can't live with my wife anymore. she smokes. it was driving him crazy. i said to him, can't you put in a ventilation system or a system in the apartment that will work? and he just didn't want to do it anymore. >> reporter: ballpark, what percentage of your clients have you referred to marriage counselingers? >> somewhere between 5 and 10%. >> reporter: that's pretty healthy. >> i think it is. it's not going to bring me to the poor house, but it will be a

good thing for them. i am not worried about that. >> reporter: about put yourself out of business? >> i am not. >> and you say, because you come home and i will be in pajamas. >> that's my point. > that's why you need to tell me at 12:00? >> 12:00. >> whatever. >> reporter: meanwhile, the now happy silversteins have gone from needing marital advice to giving it in their wildly successful podcast. >> hey, everybody, welcome to marriage and martinis. >> reporter: for people who haven't heard it, how would you describe the podcast? >> explicit. >> reporter: recorded weekly in their new jersey home, it's an incenseered intimate look at their marriage, good and bad. >> i need romance, too. right? >> i don't know what that means. >> i explained it last time. dd you forget? >> reporter: they even fight on the air. >> oh, yeah, we have actually, amisom point had to throw off the headphones and cause. >> go our separate ways for an

hour. >> and also had to have discussions off the podcast sometimes in the middle of an episode and then go back. >> reporter: the police have not been involved? >> we are not at that point. no. no police. >> you would kill me. >> you text me at like -- >> that's not a surprise -- >> reporter: with 8 million downloads, they may have tapped into some universal truths about marriage. what insights have you been able to get from the feedback you get from the podcast? >> i think the best feedback that we get is oh, my god, me, too, oh, my god, us, too. >> so many people are going through the same thing but nobody talks about it. >> reporter: and talking is key. just ask marissa nelson. >> we don't get manuals for relationships. i wish we did. i think that when you have two people that come together with different needs, you have to be vigilant and intentional that love and communication is an ongoing process that you are

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how's that work? a question parents have been hearing as long as there have been children. for renowned author-illustrator david macaulay, answering that question has been his life's work. he is talking with martha teichner. >> reporter: confession. i'm just mad about the mammoth. the one that wandered out of the ice age into one of author-illustrator david macaulay's books where he found his purpose in life, if that's a mammoth thing. helping macaulay explain the way things work to kids. >> i was desperate to find the

humorous way of explaining levers. so i put the mammoth on the end of the log and put the log on the rock to have a fulcrum, and the village is on this end of the lever. the problem that had to be solved was what does the mammoth weigh. so it was as simple as that. >> reporter: since it came out in 1988, the book has sold more than 1 million copies around the world. mammoth and a herd of his friends have made their way into other macaulay books. do you have any idea how many mammoths you have drawn? >> like 43, 272, i believe. >> reporter: 43,272 mammoth? >> it's a guess. >> reporter: with or without the help of mammoths, but always with the sense of humor, david macaulay has come to be known as america's explainer-in-chief. he is a multi-award-winning star

in the children's picture book world. a macarthur genius grant reipient. having explained all kinds of things in more than two dozen books over the course of his 50-plus-year career. the human body, cathedrals, castles, toilets, the pyramids, ships, the city of rome. >> i miss rome. i think about it often. i think about particular streets and places in rome. >> reporter: as an architecture student at the rhode island school of design, macaulay's spent a year there. born in england, he moved to the united states at the age of 10 with his family. it says chaos. >> chaos. that's where the process started. in fact, it's where all my books start. >> reporter: an ongoing exhibit at the national building museum in washington, d.c., explores the messiness of creating a book.

>> this whole thing is the inside of my brain. and those clouds floating overhead were an attempt to suggest some of that, the things that go through your mind when you think, this is not going to work. >> reporter: some look like procrastination. >> that's my gift. in the end if i am using my imagination, asking the right questions, then the procrastination is working in my favor and i have to keep drawing. >> reporter: and drawing and drawing. these are just some of the drawings he produced while he was figuring out who would be th ideal tour guide of rome with the perfect point of view. >> why not a pigeon carrying a message from somebody who lives outside the city to someone who lives inside the city? it took the scenic route which was ideal. >> reporter: early one fall morning, david macaulay brought us here. >> obviously, a piece of

engineering. >> reporter: this side is vermont. over there new hampshire. the connecticut river in between. >> and then we have an arch. >> reporter: he began sketching the bridge. >> the weight of all of this stuff is supported on this arch and transferred into these piers. >> reporter: he wanted us to realize that for him sketching is seeing. >> now you look under the road. >> reporter: sketch something a language for understanding. >> we look at things but do we actually see them? what better way to spend time than with a sketch book in your hand looking at specific details? i think that's my goal in a way to have people open their eyes to the ordinary, to the everyday, to the things they take for granted. >> reporter: like the sorts of things both man made and natural that macaulay sees when he walks his dogs, maya and minnow, in norwich, vermont, where he lives.

>> why she stopped and i am holding the leash. how many pieces of wood are in that fence. >> reporter: walks with stella, his beloved previous dog, are the basis for the book he is working on now. >> i am looking up at this fire escape contraption above. >> reporter: what's taking shape on his wall is david macaulay's stealth attempt to hook kids on the wonder right before their eyes. >> i thought, maybe i can create a book that will help them connect. and what better way to do that than to maybe use myself as an example. >> reporter: have you ever done anything this personal and this introspective before? >> no, this is the first. >> reporter: at 78, this time the point of view is his own. but why? and why now? >> my sort of conscience perhaps

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actually do. hence, this report from our robert costa. >> good evening, the coal mining country of eastern kentucky was still mourning the deaths of 15 miners in a gas explosion. >> rescuers reaching miners near orangeville, utah. >> reporter: coal mining has always been dangerous. one of the deadliest professions in the nation. >> 119 coal miners killed in a mine explosion. the new monument dedicated to the men who died from that tragedy. >> reporter: in the 20th century more than 100,000 workers died in the u.s. mining industry. christopher mark experienced that risk firsthand. >> i started the mines in 1976. 50 years ago. i worked underground for about two years. and i can tell you i was almost killed a couple times. >> reporter: this real for you, mine safety? >> yes. >> reporter: it's been mark's life's work. in his 20s he left the coal fields to earn a ph.d.

then returned as an engineer for the federal government. his efforts have helped save countless lives underground. >> it was still maybe a coal miner every week killed. in 2016 the first year with zero. tremendous accomplishment. >> reporter: at the end of the day you work for the worker? not for the corporations? >> exactly right. and we were asked to do this by the public. it was the public's demand that was reflected in the laws that were passed by congress and that's all we have been doing ever since. >> reporter: for you this isn't just about a government budget. this is life and death? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> reporter: we met christopher mark in the historic coal country of western pennsylvania. he agreed to speak with us as a private citizen, not as a representative of his employer the department of labor. his reason? he is deeply concerned about the trump administration's sweeping criticism of federal workers.

>> i still have the most pressures issues american right, the right to free speech. so long as i'm speaking in my personal capacity. that's what i am doing today. >> reporter: you are not afraid? >> i would be foolish if i wasn't afraid. >> i campaigned on the fact that i said government is corrupt and it is very corrupt. it's very, very -- it's also foolish. >> reporter: since taking office, president trump has enlisted billionaire industrialist elon musk as a special government employee and they have launched a crusade to winnow the ranks of federal workers, encouraging more than 2 million of them to consider quitting and moving to shudder entire agencies. meanwhile, there are reports that hundreds of thousands of recently hired federal employees could soon be terminated. >> you couldn't ask for a stronger mandate from the public. the public voted, a majority of

the public voted for president trump. >> reporter: trump and musk's campaign has sparked anger. >> we are out here trying, but we need american to care. >> reporter: it has also forced a reckoning over what americans want from their government. >> i think as we speak our country is getting an education in what the government does because it feels it has to. >> reporter: who knew what usaid was three weeks ago in in an upcoming book, michael lewis poses the question, who is government? >> virtually every existential risk we face be don't turn to the private sector to respond to it. we turn to the government. the federal government's mission is to keep us safe. and you don't really know that that insurance policy is not there until it isn't. >> reporter: the book is based on a "washington post" series

louis edited last year with little known stories of federal workers. >> christopher mark's life's work, if you removed him, thousands coal miners are dead. it's one person. >> reporter: military cemetery managers and mission specialists for space exploration, lewis and his co-authors make the case that claims of an impersonal could called deep state are off base and that while there may be places for trims and updated systems, they ahe federal workforce is largely individuals dedicated to the public good. >> people who have been attract today a problem. the government is there to solve lots of problems. usually problet the market doesn't want to solve. >> some people say government should run like a business. are they right? >> no, they are wrong. i don't s how you would run the government as a business because the kind of problems the

government is addressing, they are addressing it because you can't make money addressing it. >> reporter: the modern federal government took shape almost a century ago in response to the great depression. fdr's new deal followed by world war ii expanded government's reach into most every aspect of life. and since then many conservatives have been pushing back. >> the nine most terrifying words in the english language are, i'm from the government and i'm here to help. >> reporter: in t80s president ronald reagan laid the foundation for what trump and musk are doing today. >> there is an ethos in silicon valley, move fast, break things, disrupt. you have covered leaders in that sector for decades. does that approach though work when it comes to the federal government and the stakes are different? >> it doesn't work very well. if you take the kind of elon musk approach to the federal

government, walking in as he did at twitter and say, all you people are useless, we will get rid of half of you. operating with fear and chaos, i don't think any big institution will respond well to the like move fast and break things approach. >> reporter: when asked for comment, a white house spokesman said the president is confident in musk, and his ability to shake things up and said criticism of his method is fear mongering. when you walk in the restaurant people don't necessarily say there a federal worker? >> no, that's right. >> reporter: they say that's a coal miner, my friend, works on mine safety. they are not thinking about you necessarily as part of the federal government? >> that's right. >> reporter: that doesn't help the federal government? >> another thing that the federal government doesn't have money to advertise itself. people can say what they want about us. we really can't respond. >> reporter: for mine safety engineer christopher mark, there is little he can do to stave off

the wave of changes from washington, but he says he'll carry on, his head up as long as he can. if you could bring elon musk down to the mines, what would you say to him? >> well, i would athere is lot of people that have to work in these mines and they deserve to be able to come home at the end of the heaviest to their families safely. we are part of making that happen. you can't take us out of the equation and be sure that they are going to return home safely to their families. ♪ ♪

we are all here laboring with our teaspoons and you come and bring a shochl. thanks to you, we're almost there. we're on the verge of tipping it, bob. and you're our closing act. >> it's "sunday morning" on cbs and here again is jane pauley. >> a lock ahead to the academy awards continues this morning with actor edward norton, who has earned his fourth career oscar nod for his supporting role in the bob dylan movie "a complete unknown." tracy smith visited with him in los angeles. >> reporter: the fires that ravaged southern california last month turned too many of malibu's most treasured places to ash. but some, like the legendary shangri-la studios, still stand. ♪ we could have had it all ♪

>> reporter: over the years, it's been used by some of the biggest names in the music business, like eric clapton and adele, to name a few. it's also known as the house that bob dylan built. even the old bus out back, legend has, was used by dylan on tour. he camped out on the lawn? >> i think it's in clapton's biography, there was a period he a tent in the rose grden. >> reporter: for actor edward norton this is hallowed ground. and a way, so is his latest movie role. >> you are tramped from minnesota. why is that? >> i want to get -- >> reporter: in "a complete unknown" norton is focus music legend pete seeger, playing opposite timothee chalamet as the young bob dylan. >> i'm pete, by the way. >> yes, sir. no question about it. . how about you?

>> about me? >> something come after that? >> dylan. >> reporter: norton says playing a music legend like seeger was sublime and terrifying. >> i think every actor in some part wants to be a rock star. and i think -- >> reporter: you too, yes. >> and the fantasy of there is a dream. i think every actor holds the dream in some sense. i almost started crying at the idea of it because -- >> reporter: did you really? >> well, i was nervous about it because i was nervous about the whole enterprise because i thought the idea of a bio-pic about dylan, if you say it that way, i am not sure. >> reporter: this is a huge gamble? >> yeah, i am not sure. to me it has a mythical kind of place in me, and i thought this could be really, really a bad idea. >> i feel like singing. so i'm going to sing for you. you know the words. ♪ this land is your land ♪

>> reporter: here is one of the challenges. pete seeger was an accomplished banjo player, so norton had to become one as well. and the banjo is a tough one to learn. we did an interview with steve martin and he played the banjo for us. and watching him play the banjo, it's so complex and fast. >> yeah. i made a joke that i googled is there an a.i. that can replace my hands with steve martin's. you know, like can i get -- or in the old days, where you put your arms behind the back and steve martin puts his arms under my armpits and plays for me. it might have happened. who knows? ♪ >> reporter: in the finished film his playing looks and sounds authentic because it is. and that authenticity is something that edward norton has always worked for. starting with his first movie role as a calculating killer in

the 1996 thriller primal fear. >> well, i am innocent. >> reporter: norton, who was raised in maryland, cultivated an appalachian accent so real that people thought he was actually from kentucky. >> i don't know who is capable of such a thing. >> reporter: and he wound up with his first oscar nomination. >> what do you want me to do? hit you? why? >> i don't know why. >> reporter: three years later he was fighting it out with brad pitt in a film that's now embedded in our culture. >> the first rule of "fight club" is you do not talk about "fight club." second rule is you do not talk about "fight club." . >> reporter: it's huge now. it's acclaimed. when "fight club" came out, it was not successful. financially -- >> no, not at all. and it was polarizing, i would say, there were those who absolutely it hit them right in

the center of their sense of their own self. and there were people who absolutely thought it was, you know, garbage. >> reporter: it was booed at the venice film festival. but that didn't bother norton or his co-star pitt. >> as the credits rolled brad looked at me in the dark crying and said that's the best film we will ever be in. i said i think so, too. we were hugging each other and crying because we were so happy with boos raising around us. and i think sometimes you've just got to let your own freak flag fly and see, and people will figure it out or not. >> reporter: norton's led his own freak flag fly in more than 40 films. like a mild-mannered police captain in "the grand budapest hotel." >> i know who you are.

it's uncanny. >> release them. >> reporter: he was an ego driven broadway actor in "birdman." >> long after you're gone, i will be on that stage earning my living, bearing my soul, wrestling with complex human emotions. >> reporter: and nailed the billionaire part in "glass onion." >> hey. try to solve a murder mystery if you can. i won't toot my own horn. >> reporter: watching him on screen it's hard to believe edward norton was once told he didn't have what it takes to make it as an actor. was there a casting director who told you find another profession? >> there was. yeah. i had one of those like someone sits you down and says you should do something else. >> reporter: literally do something else? >> yeah. very, very well known casting director it in new york. one of the ones you hope to get in front of. but, look, if you don't run into moments where people lay some fundamental uncertainty around,

you know, the path you have chosen and you can't push it, you probably don't belong. >> reporter: of course, there is little doubt he belongs in all of this. edward norton has an oscar nomination for every decade of his career. >> i want you to give a warm welcome to bob dylan. [ applause ] >> reporter: and he is in the running now for his work in "a complete unknown." but he says that for him it's not about the awards or money, but the chance to channel greatness. >> if channeling their frequency gets people refocused on what it looked like when people were using the talents they had to further ideas and values that were bigger than themselves, then that's -- that is what makes it worth doing. can we get people to re-engage with and be moved by and inspired by the idea of artists

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edward bird the poster child of posters. through the '60s and '70s, his designs perfectly captured the psychedelic era. bird created classic posters for jimi hendrix and bands including the who, jefferson airplane, traffic, and the rolling stones. bird also created ovation worthy work for broadway for shows like follies, god spell, among others. one admirer of his posters told "the new york times" his work is sort of like art nouveau on acid. david edward bird died earlier this month in albuquerque of complications from covid. he was 83 years old. ♪ ♪

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i guess what i'm looking for from you is, i mean, i know how the fire affected me, and there's always a constant fear that who's to say something like that won't happen again? that's fair. we committed to underground, 10,000 miles of electric line. you look back at where we were 10 years ago and we are in a completely different place today,

and it's because of how we need to care for our communities and our customers. i hope that's true. [joe] that's my commitment. [ambient noise] a more humane world for animals. many of us say we want that, but as conor knighton points out, few of us actually do something about it. >> reporter: the sprawling black beauty ranch in east texas takes its name from the classic 1877 novel. narrated by horse, black beauty encouraged readers to see the world from an animal's point of view.

>> the store of black beauty is about coming home and feeling free and safe. so this is what all these animals get to do. >> reporter: kitty block the ceo of the humane society of the united states. the nonprofit which runs black beauty has sanctuary. there are zebras, macaques, bison, and lions. >> so we are about 1,400 acres. they have all come from various rescue situations. each one has an incredible story. >> reporter: there is loki the tiger, rescued from someone's garage in houston. there is eve, known as the bare bear who was once so hairless and emaciated the rescuers didn't know what she was. >> these are our beautiful lemurs. these guys were in a very dark small place, did not have

anything that resembled kind of life. so it's amazing to see them, thousand they have taken to their habitat. >> reporter: the first residents were wild donkeys airlifted if the grand canyon by activist cleveland amery. >> here we got in this canyon the most highly publicized donkeys in the world and we are going to shoot them for god's sakes? >> reporter: today the sanctuary's home to 150 donkeys. but if you are wondering where all of the dogs and cats are hiding, well, the humane society of the united states isn't actually affiliated with thousands of humane societies that operate shelters across the country. >> local humane societies do take care of dogs, cats, pets, sometimes other animals, and they are amazing places and we work really closely with them, but that's not us. we are a policy organization. we are a lobbyist shop. we work around the world and we

do rescue, but we -- you can't get your dog or from us. >> reporter: for the past 75 years the humane society of the united states based in washington, d.c., has worked on issues ranging from investigating the international fur trade to add row indicating for disaster relief plans that take animals into account. this past week the organization announced it's changing its name to reduce confusion and better reflect global focus, it will be humane world for animals. >> our mission still about getting at the root causes to prevent cruelties and helping animals in crisis today. what the new name does is reflects what we do, how we do it and where we do it. >> reporter: after nearly a decade of campaigning they celebrated a win in south korea. last year that country's national assembly voted to ban the dog meat industry.

what's happening right now that in five, ten years you think people will look back on and say i can't believe we did that? >> i hope it's less than five or even ten years. but i think the situation with the factory farming is one that we will all look back on and say, really? did we do that? did we confine animals in these terrible extreme situations? just because it was cheaper or easier or if we throw them all together and seal the doors, people don't know it's happening. >> reporter: they successfully defended california's proposition 12 at the supreme court. the law established minimum space requirements for certain species of livestock. >> confining animals in extremely terrible situations where animals are stacked in cages on top of cages, it creates conditions where there are illnesses. so there is swine flu.

there is bird flu. we can't keep pretending it has nothing to do with us. >> reporter: protecting the 600 or so residents of this ranch is in a way a symbolic act. for an organization looking to improve the welfare of animals around the world, the symbolic like the name black beauty. the ability to consider an animal's perspective is part of what makes us human. >> it's important not just for the animals, but important for us. who we are. how we think about ourselves. how we want to have a world that we pass on to our children and our children's children. animals belong there. and so we are committed to making sure that they have that life, they have that ability to thrive because matters to all of us.

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immigrant trying to learn english. >> next -- [ laughter ] >> it's about death. and that was something that variety shows didn't traffic in in 1975. >> reporter: susan morrison is the author of "lorne." that would be lorne michaels, the man behind "saturday night live." >> live from new york, it's saturday night! >> reporter: for 50 years now, "saturday night live" has been putting on a show. ♪ it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood ♪ >> reporter: a 90-minute mix of comedy sketches, parodies, and musical acts. each episode headlined by a celebrity host. what did variety shows look like before "saturday night live"? >> they took place on a big wide

stage. it was very shiny, very blank. and the content of these variety shows also was kind of a throwback. very hammy, almost vaudevilian, catskill comics doing seltzer-in-the-pants bits. >> reporter: michael worked on several of those shows, including "laugh-in." >> it was really the first variety show that seemed to care about youth culture and being him. but politically that show was relatively toothless. what passed for political humor on "laugh-in" was goldie hawn doing a kind of a dumb blonde bit. >> i don't like it because in the movies he nearly wrecked the empire state building. >> reporter: he learned a different less onon a cornball comedy show hosted by phyllis diller. >> the beautiful phyllis diller show. not just another pretty face.

>> reporter: its premiere episode in 1968 went up against a barbra streisand special. >> streisand was the hottest thing out there. funny girl was about to come out. lorne thought we were dead. but as turned out, the diller show beat streisand in the ratings by a mile. and lorne recognized i think he said, i realize there are two audiences. there is the people i know and then there is the wider american audience. and to this day he is always telling his young writers and performers, we have audience in all 50 states. wehave to remember this is broadcast. it takes in the whole country. >> that's the news. good night. have a pleasant tomorrow. >> reporter: keeping all this in mind, michaels set about creating a show for his own generation. >> what do you want from us? >> we want your pollen. >> reporter: as happened, nbc's

then president was thinking along the same lines. it's fun to knock network execs, but the role that herb schlosser played. >> yes. he was a visionary president of nbc who was looking to fill a hole on saturday night when the network been running johnny carson's reruns. and he dictated a memo that pretty much hit all the points of what "snl" was to be. he wanted to do a show out of studio 8h at 30 rock, which been dormant since the '50s. he wanted to be live, on at 11:30 saturday night, to have rotating hosts. >> reporter: before michaels hired his cast, he hired the writers. >> if you look at the early days of "snl," the logo for the show was "saturday night live" spray-painted on the outside wall of what was then the rca building. like graffiti.

i thought it spoke volumes. these kids came along besmirching the standard, the establishment. >> reporter: allen had been working a deli when he got the gig. what was the joke that got you the job? >> i gave him a book with my jokes in it. the first said the post office is about to issue a stamp commemorating prostitution in the united states. >> it's a tencent stamp. if you want to lick it, it's a quarter. >> they laughed. and it was great. i was now a professional comedy writer. >> reporter: the writers were young and the cast were unknowns. >> he really wanted the show to feel like it was speaking in the voice of everybody's funny sarcastic friend. grousing, wisecracking, just the way people are when they are trying to make their friends laugh. >> reporter: over the past give decades, america has become friends with more than 100 different cast members and the

characters they have created. not to mention the catchphrases that seeped into our conversation. >> well, isn't that special? >> i got to have more cowbell. >> reporter: the show's writers and actors know a the best way to make the audience laugh is to make each other laugh. >> i think it was paula said, let's set it somewhere happy. put it in disney world. then it started to flow. and then as we were writing we made each other laugh a lot. then we started going, wah-wah, to each other. i think paula said, what if we put the trombone in the scene? >> roy of siegfried & roy, was attacked byis own tiger and suffered devastating injuries. ♪ >> reporter: rachel dratch was on the show from 1999 to 2006. she and long time writer paula pell created debbie downer.

that friend we all have who always manages to bring the party down. >> where you going? >> with that costume on, he is probably in the early stages of heatstroke. >> then we did it for that first time and it was where everyone lost their minds laughing. they were wiping their eyes with waffles. and i remember being in a dressing room watching, just tears coming down. and laughing so ungodly hard. it was such a lightning in a bottle moment at that show where you're like, i will never forget this five minutes ever in my life. >> you want to kick it? >> let's do it. >> reporter: for material, the staff is encouraged to draw if their own lives. >> was always, always wanting to be a cheerleader. every year, every summer i worked on my back handsprings. i was a chubby girl, very

strong, nice and loud, really good at cheerleading. every year i didn't get it. >> time to call. >> reporter: so pell collaborated with cheri oteri and will ferrell on their spartan cheerleaders sketch. >> spartan cheerleaders comes from a real place? >> yeah, from the place of, like, joyful loser existence as you go, oh, i didn't make it, let's go cheer anyway. we are going to get -- let's cheer for things nobody will kick us out on and they still get to be dramatic cheerleaders. >> i'm glad this happened. >> reporter: over the run of the show the tone of "snl" has shifted away from gritty and dark towards colorful and more, well, cheerful. morrison writes that lorne michaels directed the staff to

do it in sunshine. >> do it in sunshine means everyone should look good. you want the costumes to be flattering, the colors bright. you don't want anger. he very often counsels writers to avoid writing anger. people don't put on the television to see people yelling at each other. fred armisen said lorne said people huddle around the television to huddle around a fire. >> reporter: try to keep it, you know -- >> even with dictators i have played, even approached them with, like, i can't believe i'm saying this, love and kindness. >> thank you very much. what's up? >> reporter: fred armisen played labbian dictator muammar qaddafi i would spend the money on teachers. that's just me.

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>> if you are running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing america can do for you. >> from the west, vice president -- >> reporter: germany's defense minister boris pestorius said comparing european governments to authoritarian regimes was unacceptable. there has been a furious reaction in european media. the vice president's speech was called vengeful, preachy, unkind. and germany's chancellor said that curbs on far right hate speech don't undermine democrcy in germany, but protect it in a country that knows a thing or two about fascism. saturday vance boarded a plane for home leaving europeans pondering what appears to be a seismic shift in their relationship with their old friend the united states.

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