tv The Late Show With Stephen Colbert CBS February 19, 2025 11:35pm-12:37am PST
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this. >> cool. so there you go. the odds are expected to keep going down and the earth will likely be okay. not everyone is happy. benny boy shared this on x, i'm rooting for the asteroid, to be perfectly honest. another person said the asteroid will hit the same year i planned on retiring. of course, people will bet on anything, including the odds of an asteroid hitting the earth. they gave it better odds than the cowboys to win the next super bowl. >> they'll keep measuring this thing, could go up to 5%, it'll likely go down to 0%. if it does hit, it won't be our part of the planet. >> are you going to study what's going on with the cowboys? >> absolutely not. >> that is a >> february marks the beginning of black history month, and it comes as the white house is dismantling diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts within the
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federal government. >> under the new administration, a few small changes have made to black history month. ♪ ♪ >> hello, i'm tim meadows for black history month. this february, we celebrate great black americans who've made a difference, like hollywood superstar jack black, who, in the face of adversity, found the courage to make a second "jumanji." and let us not forget the historic achievement of rebecca black, who stood against the tyranny of weekdays and made us all look forward to the weekend. but black history month is not just about white people. we also recognize the accomplishments of the black & decker cordless drill. with its brushless motor and 950 foot-pound torque, we shall overcome installing kitchen cabinets. so happy black history, everyone.
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and join us next time when we celebrate women's history month and the pioneering achievement of mrs. doubtfire. >> announcer: it's "the late show with stephen colbert!" tonight... fired up! plus, stephen welcomes robert de niro! and tamara tunie! featuring louis cato and "the late show" band. and now, live on tape from the ed sullivan theater in new york city, it's stephen colbert! [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ >> stephen: you know what?
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oh! welcome. welcome here down here, up there, out there, everybody to "the late show." i'm your host, stephen colbert. [cheering] i just love being wih you guys every day because it feels like every day we get news of a another inexplicable chaotic move seemingly bent on undermining everything we as americans hold dear. and today is no different because kfc is moving its corporate headquarters from kentucky to texas. that is finger-lickin' [bleep]. what is going on? what is happening? what's next? jersey mike's becomes maine mickey's? will papa john step down as pizza pope? burger king abdicates his throne to marry a common nugget? because kentucky fried chicken isn't just a name. it's part of kentucky history. it was founded nearly a century ago,
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in 1930 in corbin, kentucky. even now, if you purchase kfc somewhere that is not kentucky, legally, they have to call it "sparkling white chicken." what else? oh, up in washington, speaking of chicken, oh, up in washington, our government is getting spatchcocked by elon musk and his post-pubescent pink slip troopers. naturally, the federal workers in their path of wanton destruction are experiencing anger, chaos, and confusion. which coincidentally are also the secret service code names for trump, elon, and don jr. [cheering] one example of these workers' heads spinning: friday before last, right? at the small business administration, employees received emails notifying them of their terminations. then on monday, another email
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said the initial notices were a mistake. then on tuesday, they got a third email confirming their firings. that's an emotional roller coaster ride. "honey, i'm leaving you." "darling, i would never leave without my umbrella! [cheers and applause] elon and the d.o.g.e. bags have fired so many people so quickly, in so many critical areas, with so little thought beforehand, that the government is now scrambling to rehire the nuclear staff it fired on friday. these are folks involved with designing, building, and overseeng the u.s. nuclear weapons stockpile, after concerns grew that their dismissal could jeopardize national security. i share those concerns.
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but here's the wrinkle and the rub: the government has struggled to reach the people that were fired after they were locked out of their federal email accounts. so now we got a bunch of pissed off people with a lot of time on their hands who know how to build nuclear weapons. well, at least you couldn't find them. and it doesn't stop with the nukes. yesterday, the department of agriculture said that they accidentally fired officials working on bird flu and are now trying to rehire them. whoopsa-demic! thankfully, we all know that donald trumis a steady hand in a public health crisis. "i tell you what, folks. have we tried deep-frying the birds in bleach? hear me out. crispy. get the birds. maybe with a side of honey mustard ivermectin." rehiring people on tuesday that
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you fired on friday does not scream "government efficiency." and even republicans are starting to notice, like nebraska representative don bacon, who said "they need to be more cautious. there's an old saying, measure twice, cut once. well, they are measuring once and having to cut twice." yes. let's pray they never put elon in charge of circumcisions. "oopsie. who has the gorilla glue?" over the weekend, d.o.g.e. laid off several thousand people at hhs, and at the fda, they laid off hundreds of employees who work on nutrition, food safety response, and infant formula. that is worrying. how will we feed the newborns if we don't have any formula? for that is how we grow our babies so large.
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we give them... the formula! d.o.g.e. also ordered the usda's national animal health laboratory network to fire 25% of their 14 employes. that is super disturbing. because 25% of 14 is 3.5. "did you hear? they fired doug, raj, anita... and half of gary. turns out, firing a bunch of people big willy-nilly style is also pissing off the people that they want to keep working. earlier this week, to protest the layoffs of 80 workers, the fda's food safety chief resigned. great! we lost the guy in charge of food! that's one of my favorite things to put in my mouth! the fda official in question is jim jones, not the kool-aid one, and his title is -- and we're not making this up -- deputy commissioner of human foods.
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not to be confused with the "commissioner of humans who are food," who is, of course... >> the late, great hannibal lecter. >> stephen: there you go. all these cuts are the work of d.o.g.e., but it's not exactly clear what d.o.g.e. is. we know it's not an official government department, 'cause that would have to be established by an act of congress, and we know the guy in charge of it has not been elected to any office or confirmed to any cabinet position. up to this point, all we knew for certain about d.o.g.e. is who that guy in charge is, which trump made clear right before his inauguration. >> we will create the new department of government efficiency, headed by a gentleman named elon musk. >> stephen: "but i couldn't find a gentleman named elon musk, so instead i hired this sociopathic tech doofus. there he is.
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how are you? you like the human food?" well, it turns out being an unelected donor running an unauthorized employee kill squad might get you sued at some point in the future. so, in new legal filings, the white house claims that elon musk is not in charge at d.o.g.e. what?! it's literally named after his favorite meme! this is the most confusing leadership structure since ruth's chris steakhouse. who is chris? why does he seem to belong to ruth? wait, wait, wait. does that mean we're eating chris? is he the steak? is he the human food?! [applause] chris! he will be missed. trump is also crippling other countries out there, starting with ukraine. this week he sent marco rubio to saudi arabia for russia-ukraine peace talks,
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but ukraine wasn't invited. that makes it kinda hard to find peace. "honey, oh, my gosh. that was an amazin couples therapy today. you shoulda been there! dr. brad and i agree, everything is your fault! oh, and i forgot, i'm leaving you. oop, forgot the umbrella!" [cheers and applause] it's clear that trump is pro-russia. his administration is saying ukraine will have to make major concessions. and when he was asked about what putin will have to do in return, he got a little vague. >> maybe russia will give up a lot. maybe they won't. and it's all dependent on what is going to happen. >> stephen: firm, clear, confident. reminds me of that gloria gaynor song.
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maybe i will survive. maybe i won't. it's all dependent trump's been criticized on what is going to happen. trump's been criticized for leaving ukraine out of the peace talks, so yesterday he said this. >> today i heard, "well, we weren't invited." well, you have been there for three years. you should have ended it. three years. you should have never started it. >> stephen: "yes, i blame ukraine for starting the war that russia started. [booing] no, no, no, it makes sense. just like i blame those wicked hobbits for stealing that ring from sauron. plus, just look at that dei fellowship. that dwarf was clearly unqualified! anyway, sauron, very good friend of mine. big guy! came up to me once, big strong guy, tears in his flaming eye, and he said "ash nazg thrakatuluk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul, where at least i know ♪ i'm free ♪ [cheers and applause] that's my song?
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is that good?" then today? today, trump posted a screed right out of the big book of russian trolls, saying, "think of it, a modestly successful comedian, volodymyr zelensky, talked the united states of america into spending $350 billion to go into a war that couldn't be won." bold words: "modestly successful reality show host." then, then trump called zelensky a dictator "who refuses to have elections and is very low in ukrainian polls." unlike trump's democratically-elected buddy putin, who is very popular in russia. latest polls show 90% approve, and 10% -- ahhhhh! i'm falling out of a window! we got a great show for you tonight! my guests are robert de niro and tamara tunie. but when we come back, i check in on a major
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♪ ♪ >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. give it up for louis cato and "the late show" band. there you go. folks, tonight i'm proud to present to you the second installment of our popular segment, "prove it." if you missed the first episode, here's the deal. here's what happened. back in december, ja morant of the memphis grizzlies delivered this mind-bending double pump behind-the-head dunk with the ease and aplomb of tossing a peach pit into a basket. i don't know anyone who can do that. but i do know one man who thinks he can do that. it's my writer, asher perlman, there he is. they call him kosher thunder.
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asher, after seeing that dunk, texted my head writer's husband, quote, "the specific way in which i'm crazy is that i think i could do that if you gave me six months." and the specific way in which i'm crazy is that i decided to call his bluff on national television. asher, get out here! come on, asher perlman, everybody. [applause] sit down. sit down, good to see you. asher, welcome to episode two of "prove it." >> thank you. happy to be here. >> stephen: first time you were here we took a baseline of your abilities by having you attempt to dunk on stage. let's see how that looks side by side with ja morant. [laughter] so close... so close to the ground. the viewer response,
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people loved your attempt. the viewer response was as passionate as it was mixed. some said, "the man has a three-inch vertical. i'm 51 and i can jump higher than he can." another one: "this dude dribles like he never drible a ball before" and my personal favorite, "bless his heart." yes. response? >> that was my first time dribling i will admit it. >> stephen: a scheduling question. you are supposed to come back. we would check in at the end of six months. two weeks ago would have been a month. why were you not hear? >> three weeks ago, i threw my back out. >> stephen: playing basketball? >> sitting in a chair. >> stephen: aggressively? aggressively sitting in a chair like you're sitting right now? >> it was in this building.
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i was sitting upstairs and i did this. and i knew. this happens every four months or so. >> stephen: so it could happen again before this is over? you are in tip-top shape now? feeling okay. have you been hitting the court? >> i really wanted to. >> stephen: this being a basketball challenge. >> the gym i go to doesn't have a basketball court. the only one that's close to me is outdoors and it's been cold. >> stephen: we started this january in january. of course it's cold. i did not occur to you? >> honestly, no. >> stephen: you haven't gone on a court at all? >> i went to one basketball court. my friend andrew who was who i texted. >> stephen: the husband of my head writer. >> he belongs to a gym that does
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have a basketball court. >> stephen: i should ask him to do this. >> give him seven months. he took me to that gym and showed me a little bit because he plays basketball. increased my confidence a lot. >> stephen: did you dunk a basketball? >> well, no. but i did -- there was a pickleball, they had a pickleball on the floor. a wiffle ball. we have footage of this, right? [cheers and applause] >> stephen: okay, that's n not -- no, no. [cheering] no. sit down. sit down gently. if you don't get to take a bow for that. i didn't even look like a regulation height on the room. >> i will say most people agree with you. >> stephen: but it's a start.
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continue palm a basketball -- can you palm a basketball? >> i have formed a basketball. >> stephen: enough to check. we know we are here for. it's time for the second installment of "the late show"'s newest long-running segment. >> prove that! >> stephen: welcome to prove it -- or is six weeks into his attempted dunk like ja morant. let's see how much progress you've made. last time, you chalked up like lebron. are you doing that again? >> no, i sprayed the ball down with the sticky stuff. >> stephen: is that cheating? >> only if it works. >> stephen: all right, let's do this. >> asher! asher! asher! asher! asher! asher! ♪ ♪
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[cheering] >> stephen: okay, bring it in. bring it in, baby. rub some dirt on it. still not a dunk, but let's compare that to a month ago. jim, can we take a look at asher's new attempt side by side with his previous attempt and ja morant? [laughter] okay. not sure if that's better, not sure if that's different. it's very hard to tell. >> that's why i wear different colored shirts. >> stephen: okay, asher, we're gonna circle back to you in march. will you be ready in march? >> yes. >> stephen: you said that about february. but in the meantime, i want to give you the best chance i can. i am firm but fair. which is why i'm gonna hook you up with a membership to a gym that has an indoor
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basketball court, so you can actually do the thing your psychotic delusion leads you to believe that you can do. sound good? >> i'll be there all day, every day. >> stephen: you still work for me. >> i'll be there nights and weekends. >> stephen: asher perlman, everybody! "kosher thunder!" we'll be right back with robert de niro. ♪ ♪ mopping is hard work, but then i tried the swiffer powermop. it has a built-in solution that breaks down dirt on contact. plus, it's 360-degree swivel head cleans up along baseboards and even behind the toilet. bye, bye bucket. with the swiffer powermop. (♪♪) some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking allstate first. duke versus unc. what a storied rivalry? like you know to check your outfit first before meeting your girlfriend's family. that's a tough one to recover from steve. the disappointment on their faces says it all.
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it's always good to have you on the show. i got a treat. we were both at the "snl" 50 thing on sunday, that was kind of a fun night. amazing audience. can you believe the people who were there? robert de niro was there. you did a great job in "debbie downer," paul mccartney close down the "snl" -- that was amazing, the long medley "golden," "carry that weight," "the end." you got a preview of some mccartney because he did some secret pop-up shows around new york in one of them was at bowery ballroom. you were there. were you a big beatles fan when you were younger? >> robert: not really but when i started thinking about when i was listening to paul do his songs, they are all part of my unconscious conscious. they have been in my life for
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most of my life, and i had forgotten about that. that these songs are there and have a strong meaning in my life. >> stephen: do you know mccartney? >> robert: yes. >> stephen: you do know him? >> robert: yes. >> stephen: people asked me if i ever get starstruck by the people i interview. do you get starstruck to interview robert de niro? i am like, no. because i know actors. i know what actors are like. musicians mystify me and i get really starstruck by them. you get starstruck by anybody. is bobby de niro intimidated by anybody? >> robert: no. some people. >> stephen: you must have heroes, people you look to when you go, that person is so meaningful and important to me. >> robert: like brando, i knew him a little bit offended a a movie with him. so -- as young actors we all looked up
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to him. so he was very smart, interesting guy, liked to talk a lot about interesting things. >> stephen: do you have any other heroes? when you think hero, who do you think of? do you have an american hero? >> robert: mandela was a hero to me. [applause] i do think, i think of the capitol police, the guys at capitol police. [applause] metropolitan police. michael fenone, harry dunn, daniel hodges, everybody else who was involved in effective and hurt by that. >> stephen: can you imagine being capitol police down watching those people march in past you who want to deny that
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you served them that day? >> robert: yeah. it's something. [laughter] >> stephen: your buddy martin scorsese uses music a lot when he's directing. he's thinking about the music. saying something, write this song down. he knows when he edited he might want that song to be associated with that scene. do you use music to get into character? >> robert: no. i can. sometimes i use music to feel certain way. >> stephen: do you do an animal spine? she skis easily beneath the ceiling of stars. do you do any of that local stuff? >> robert: that's interesting. maybe i'll try that. >> stephen: just say some of my acting is from stephen colbert. >> robert: i did something when i had to cry and i did a
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commercial -- saw commercial, not sappy music but very sad kind of music and it actually worked. it got me to cry every time i watched it so i play it and i do the scene. >> stephen: please tell me remember what the commercial is. >> robert: i don't. it was too long ago. >> stephen: ♪ good morning yesterday ♪ ♪ you wake up and time has slipped away ♪ >> robert: you're going to make me cry. >> stephen: that's what i'm trying to do. 2025 marks the 40th anniversary of one of my favorite films, "brazil," that you are in. you play, right here, you play the renegade heating engineer harry tuttle. i love this film so much, i saw this film in college with my girlfriend and her father who was visiting, and they didn't like it and i thought "this isn't going to last." i understand almost didn't get released that you had something to do with making that happen. >> robert: i was told by neil.
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>> stephen: my producer. >> robert: i don't remember that. >> stephen: maybe i should have kneel out here to tell the story. >> robert: you could. i don't know. he said i was on some talk show with. gillam who was great. i didn't know they have such problems with getting it up and running. which happens. >> stephen: he told the story better. >> robert: i'm sure he did. >> stephen: i understand jonathan price says that he wouldn't have gotten the job, who plays the main character, i forgot what his name. he is buddle. you are total. people didn't want to hire him because they didn't know who
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jonathan price was. >> robert: i don't remember that either. >> stephen: will move on, no pressure. robert de niro. >> robert: i'm glad. >> stephen: you helped a lot of people over the years. you're not helping me right now. but you've helped a lot. we have to take a quick break but we'll be right back with more robert de niro, everybody. stick around. ♪♪ taffy is a traveling dog. she just loves to go. her hip pain showed up when we would go on walks. she was diagnosed with osteoarthritis pain. our veterinarian recommended that we try librela. veterinary professionals administering librela who are pregnant, trying to conceive, or breastfeeding should take extreme care to avoid self-injection, which can cause allergic reactions like anaphylaxis. she's got energy to do things that she wasn't doing before, and that's just amazing. what's your favorite part of a kit kat bar? the chocolate? nope, the inside. the wafers? no. the stuff in-between the wafers.
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>> stephen: hey, everybody. look at that. we're back. with robert de niro. here's what's gotten me excited. you want to know what's got me excited? you've got a new tv show. your new television series for the first time, robert de niro. welcome. come on in, the water is fine. new netflix series called "zero day." i'm just curious, i mean, your movie star. how does this compare to making movies? there's a camera. you're acting. >> robert: what i say it's like doing three features back-to-back. it's a lot of work but it was well-written and i wanted to do something in new york for five or six months. i talked to my agent. he said i will introduce you to eric, it's a limited series that would be possibly something to do. i said okay let's talk and he came up with the idea. for the story.
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he sent me a treatment, what you call a treatment, like an overview of the whole thing. then he sent me some of the installments for some of the episodes and it was very good, well-written, smart. it's a thriller, political thriller. >> stephen: what's it about? >> robert: it's about the country, and i should know this but it might've been the world, the country stopped for a minute. everything went crazy. planes crash, trains crashed. >> stephen: was it an attack of some kind? >> robert: a cyber attack. everything stopped for a minute and then he came back on and nobody knows where it came from, what to do. then there was a threat, there's a threat later that it will happen again. so the president, played by angela bassett, wants me to have this commission. i haven't been present for 12 years. i was a one-term president, i could have been a two term but i have a personal reason.
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i don't want to give it away. she brings me in. >> stephen: you had a thing. >> robert: whatever. >> stephen: should i ask neil? peter he'll tell you all about it. >> stephen: we have a clip. anything we need to know? >> robert: no. >> stephen: i disagree. your character former president george mullen watching a political commentator on television. >> george mullen is not only a wannabe tyrant, he's inept. he's an 80th. tonight because of george mullen, none of us can sleep easy. we all have to fear the late-night knock on the door, the battering ram. >> not everybody. maybe you do. maybe you've got something to >> i think you've got something to hide, george. you heard me. i know you're flailing, lost in
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a fog, blinded by your hate for real americans, your hate for people like me. my friends, tonight i'm afraid they're coming for us. maybe you're next. maybe it's me. it may damn well being mean. >> keep at it. >> i dare you, georgie. come and get me. [cheers and applause] >> stephen: "zero day" is available now on netflix. robert de niro, everybody. we'll be right back with tamara tunie. ♪ ♪ 500,000 square miles of the u.s. are unreachable by any cell phone tower. places where memories... were left unshared. until now. t-mobile partnered with starlink to create the only space-based network that automatically connects
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[laughs] oh, my goodness. hi, so nice to have you on. >> tamara: thank you for having me. i'm so excited to be here. >> stephen: people know and love you from law and order. >> tamara: as for you. >> stephen: i never missed an episode. >> tamara: it took me two years to get it right. >> stephen: really? >> tamara: absolutely. >> stephen: i was in "criminal intent." i was a murderer. >> tamara: i mean that in the best possible way, of course you are. >> stephen: lived in his parents basement. i met the writer and she goes "i thought of you when i rotated." now they are going to know you and the new cbs show "beyond the gates." you started in theater. here we are in a broadway theater. what was your first experience in a broadway theater? >> tamara: my first broadway show was with the legendary lena
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horne. so many things. i like to tell this story because it was at the beginning of my career, i had just moved to new york city and had gotten a job doing a production of "kiss me kate" of the dinner theater in connecticut and it was fantastic and i was so excited. we rehearsed. we did tech, opened the show in the next morning after opening night, i woke up in my tonsils had abscessed and i couldn't talk. i couldn't swallow, and i couldn't sing. i lost the job. because i couldn't do it. i came back to new york with my tail between my legs and my survival job boards office work because i learned to type in seventh grade. pay attention in school, children. i learned to type in seventh grade, i could do office work and i was working at an accounting firm. one of my coffee cooler meets happen to be the son of lena
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horne's manager and he told me they were casting background singers for her show. i should talk to my agent about it. long story short, i did. i was cast in the show and on the stage with the legendary lena horne when i was 22 years old. it was an experience that really -- [applause] yeah, it really informed my career moving forward. >> stephen: when you make it to broadway for the first time, did your family all come? >> tamara: yes, my family came. my family, my teachers from school, everyone came. my mom came and when my mother came, you know you tell the production, you tell the production manager "my mother's coming. can you get tickets question reckless what they say of course. little did i know that when i walked out on stage my mother was sitting front row center. you know, you don't want to see familiar faces in the front row, right? anyway, at intermission i was walking past lena's dressing room and she always loved her
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door opened and i was walking past and she said tunie, tunie, coming here. she was putting on her makeup and looking in the mirror and i was standing behind her and she said, is that your mother in the front row? and i thought oh oh, lord, oh, lord, i was like yeah, yeah, lena, that's my mom. she said, well, she's just grinning at me and i'm grinning at her and we are having a good time! >> stephen: [laughs] [applause] fans of ""law & order: svu"" would want me to ask you this about medical examiner playing the medical examiner melinda warner, is it true that you inspired people without role to become forensic examiners? i've never inspired anyone to be a forensic examiner. >> tamara: i can't tell you how many times people have
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approached me and said "i'm studying forensic medicine." when i say people, i mean black women who are saying i study forensic science because of your role on the show, or my daughter is studying forensic science or my sister is starting forensic science. that's the power of television. that's the power of what we do. >> stephen: i would ask you, working with prop bodies and organs and everything if it would bother you but i understand you had an unusual prep for this. >> tamara: i did. i happened to grow up in a funeral home. both of my parents were morticians. it was like, i don't know if and if you watch "6 feet under" but literally we lived above the funeral home. the funeral home was on the first floor and the morgue was in the basement, just like "6 feet under" but black. >> stephen: it didn't bother you as a kid? >> tamara: not at all. i was born into that envir environment. by the time i reached my teenage
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years i was actually helping in the funeral home here and i would style hair or do makeup or something like that. when i walked into the morgue of "law & order: svu," nobody could tell me nothing. [applause] >> stephen: now you are starring in "beyond the gates." it's the first soap opera that has, first new soap opera in 25 years. what does it mean for you to be part of this show? >> tamara: the only show that would bring me back to daytime television was this show and it is because it is historic in its existence. it's the first daytime drama with central family that's african american and an african american family of affluence, power, generational wealth, beauty, talent, and it's breaking the color barrier. it's a glass ceiling show.
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it's a glass ceiling-breaking show and i'm so proud to be part of it. >> stephen: did you watch these shows growing up? >> tamara: absolutely. i used to watch with their mom. who didn't watch with their mom or grandma? i used two watch with my mom back in the day when i came to new york, i five or six years and i landed a role on "as the world turns" that i performed for 15 years. so i'm returning to daytime, which is fantastic, and i'm returning to my home network, cbs. so it's great to be back. >> stephen: you are the glamorous matriarch of the family which is a great role. do you ever get jealous that you don't get to be the person who is throwing cup seven slapping your lover, roberto. >> tamara: roberto? okay. >> stephen: later in the season. >> tamara: how did you know? listen, it's a soap opera so as pulled up and elegant as i am, there's always time for some
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mess. it's going to get messy. it's going to get messy. >> stephen: i look forward to the mess. thank you so much for being here. >> tamara: thank you for having me, stephen. >> stephen: "beyond the gates" premieres monday on cbs. tamara tunie, everybody. we'll be right back. dave's been very excited about saving big with the comcast business 5-year price lock guarantee. five years? -five years. and he's not alone. -high five. it's five years of reliable gig speed internet. five years of advanced securit.
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