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tavis: dr. linda bradley is the founder of a program aimed at women of color called celebrate sisterhood. i read a piece that you wrote: 10 ways to put your doctor at of business and i was fascinated by what i saw and i thought to ask you. whether or not doctors really want to be put up of business and you know where i am going. there is so much money that is made in the medical profession. i wonder not to cast a person -- aspersion on you but how serious are wary about getting to a point where people do not need hospitals, they do not need doctors. they do not need the kinds of medical insurance we have. can you imagine a time when we will get to a place where we will be so healthy that we can

put doctors out of business? >> i am optimistic that we can do that. doctors would relish the opportunity to take care of patients, to be looking at preventive ways to promote health. if you look at the new oath we take, it is modified. but of the cleric oath says i prefer to take care of patients for prevention. rather than cure and that food be thy medicine. i am sad when i look at young people, middle age, or old folks who have diseases that are totally preventable. 70% to 80% of white people are in hospitals are self induced illnesses -- of why people are in hospitals are self induced illnesses. 70 or 80% of things we can control we would love to be able to take care of patients and be more partner with talking to my

setting examples, being role models for things i can do to prevent these devastating chronic illnesses. >> when did the hypocritical both changer get modified and -- change or get modified and what was the reason for doing it? >> in the last 10 of 15 years and is about looking at what we're doing as physicians. in the old days as we would say, we did not have a lot. we did not have the antibiotics or surgery or anesthesia. you relied on the good lord to take care of you. are putting things in our patients' hands and we want to partner. we're optimistic that if you teach, the word in dr. in latin means teacher and that is what i would like to do and that is what most of my colleagues would want to do also. tavis: what is your view of obamacare and where people of color concerned? there is debate but we never got to talk about disparities in

health care. even with health care for millions of americans coming online we still have not got around to that disparity that exists and will exist when it comes on line. >> i love that term health care reform but if you were sitting in my office the word that you would hear is health-care reform. it is so much in our hands as patients we should not just rely upon our doctors, our religious leaders, our insurance companies but to the savings for yourself that you know to do. the basic parts of taking care of herself dreadful therefore will care act, be able to talk with their doctors about things like domestic violence, getting your pabst merkel megyn your mammogram. there are excellent parts where people did not have to pay a copiague -- a copay. and strong healthy women can

make healthier families. when i write and speak i like to use the board's health care reform. a lot of the things i recognize are there but we have to take ownership for what we do. and make these changes and do the right thing. tavis: we now those forces that we're against for many decades -- know the forces that we're against for many decades. what are the forces against self care reform? >> education. it is extremely important. it is easy to get seduced into the advertising dollars that are spent for on healthy food. we become mouth . heroes and a couch potatoes. educating, getting screening, if you have been diagnosed with a

chronic illness, take the medication. sometimes it is not compliant and a lot of it is living without understanding the long- term repercussions. let's take hypertension that affects women and men. if you go to the dialysis centers, who is sitting there getting dialyzed? it is black people. they have not lost weight, stop smoking, moderation in alcohol. there are so many things we can do but we have become a society of super sizing everything and we just moderate, try some new things. a lot of these illnesses are so simple to treat. it takes self and we have to get out of this thought of having what i call access to convenience foods. it is quick and fast but sometimes you have to go back in your home and we learn things and your grandmother, great- grandmother's did every day. cook, cook for yourself.

if we look at what is in fast food, lots of fat, salt, sugar. you realize that a can of soda it is not die it has 12th tees tons of sugar. if you came to my house and i fixed eliminate and you put in 12 spun, that is kind of crazy, what is going on? how much salt and fat? it is a matter of becoming a consumer that understands what advertising is done and we have to stop being lazy in the kitchen. we have to get on our shoes, your tennis shoes. you do not have to join a thousand dollars a year spa. you can walk. it is easy and affordable. >tavis: what is the link that you see between less than

healthy conditions of their patients and poverty? >> party is a big-league. however, let's look at -- poverty is a big link. some of our most educated african americans are overweight. when we look at organizations we belong to, other women's organizations, our children are highly educated. it crosses not just african- americans but all, this issue of wealth sometimes does not make you any better as a consumer. it is almost an equal opportunity disadvantage by either being poor or also being rich or being middle class. it affects everyone. certainly a little bit more in our community but it is not as if other communities are not affected. tavis: tell me about this program, celebrate sister read.

>> it is the best thing for me and our community. i found it this this year and it is a day of information, celebration, education, time for women to learn a lot of information about health and we call it a day of edutainment. it is hands on and screening, testimonials, we started 7:30 a.m. the day to reconnect with our community. i partnered with the cleveland clinic because we live in an area of cleveland that is poor. sometimes i wonder if it is the message or the messenger in terms of how health information is being delivered. i wanted to do something and i said -- when i say i, i have a great staff and a bunch of volunteers. to find great collectors -- lectures. we have topics on gyn,

contraception, female sexuality, eating, and with a partner of mine we did a cooking demonstration for an hour and a half. it is a day of lots of fun, hands-on, and when i look at the things i do, i am a surgeon. i think the role i am i am right now, there is more to be done with a mass group of people that one person at a time. this was a large group. i enjoy putting this on with the team and with the cleveland clinic behind me to help finance this and provide the resources to make the date unique and imploring. tavis: you are from cleveland. comedians have had a field day making fun of cleveland and it gets bashed for a lot of different things. it has been the butt of jokes for years but in the center of

the city since the cleveland clinic which i am proud of. people around the world literally do anything they can to get to the cleveland clinic. as one who was born and raised in cleveland, how does it feel to work at this institution? >> it is phenomenal. cleveland is a comeback city and to work at an institution that is number one in so many areas, we're number one in gynecology, no. 3 in the country. our heart institution is number one and it is a unique opportunity giveback. the institution is one in which it has been at the forefront for many things. we do not hire smokers. we got rid of unhealthy things. we want to set an example and positions want to set an

example. we're trying to empower patients and make them take ownership of self care reform. not to be passive about your health. we want people to live like many parts in the world to 100 and the biggest thing i would say that if you were healthy at age 50, you are likely to live to age 80. if you're healthy at 65, you are unlikely to live to age 90. if you are healthy at 70 you are likely to live to 100 years of age. we want people to take the steps. i think men and women, we are trying to empower schools and maybe teach some classes, the church is a big part of our community. when i am working with my church, it is one played at a time to show we can do. children's are coming home. what can a 7-year-old or 10- year-old cook that is quick and healthy? celebrate sisterhood was part of that project to educate and

inform and the fun in teaching. tavis: it is the road to health series. we're pleased to have dr. linda bradley from the cleveland clinic. next, jakob dylan is with us. we're back in a moment. please welcome jakob dylan back to this program. he and his band is out with their first album in seven years. the disk is called "glad all over," and they are on tour with eric clapton. mission""reboot the need a clue ♪ ♪ i want to tell you you have

had it coming ♪ it coming ♪ look alive ♪ tavis: i am willing that video. i was saying that when i first heard that, i did not connect that to "the wallflowers." >> it is one of the groups, one of the things we have not gone to. the promoters of rock-and-roll are so wide. there is no -- i do not think we found a pocket that is the one you are supposed to stay in. we always try to find different groups.

tavis: what is the biggest challenge in getting back together for several years? the last time you were here to talk about your solo project. the band had not broken up. in music as you know, things change so quickly. never mind that the expense -- expansive field, fans change and tastes change. better around a long time and we have a dedicated audience. i wish more bands did that rather than hitting bombs in the road and calling it quits. tavis: seven years as a long time. >> our lives are not just about the band. i want to make a couple different records that probably were not appropriate for the band and everyone wanted to run around. they have other stuff to do

rather than be in the band. other than call it quits we were wise enough to take a break. i did not think it would be seven years. i thought maybe two or three. tavis: when you come back together after that long of a bright, where the music is concerned, how do you figure out what makes sense for "the wallflowers," because the stuff you did needed to be sold. how'd you know what is right for the band? >> it is simple. there is five of us. they do not work unless you have the chemistry and it is not just the physical chemistry. it is the personal chemistry. it is the chemistry of personalities that make them count. it is about -- less about musicianship. it is about the chemistry of the band. that is something we're protective of that and we're aware of it. we respect one another. it is not going to be one person's vision that makes the group great.

we share that and when i make records of my own, that has nothing to do with that. it is about what do you want to do. >tavis: was their starting point when you got back together? what was the genesis for the tracks on the project? >> it was different in some regards that we had gone down -- i had a couple of songs and lyrics and that was something that was intentional. previously i was taking the burden of writing the 15 songs before we go. and making sure their buttoned up and finished and the guys want more involvement. i felt like i needed someone to share that with. when you started i do not think anyone else was writing songs but people have learned how to do that over time. it started with us in the room making a racket and chasing the songs as they developed and not be as precious as we have been about it. >> i am still in the racket

phase. >> that is the best face. tavis: i am there. i do not know how much longer but i have not got past the racket part. kour father reference mic jones from "the clash," and he wanted to get mick jones on tour. he is on your project. >> i've but not say he failed. tavis: it did not happen. i did not want to call you a failure and anything. >> mick jones is admired by my generation. some of this guy's come through too.hery are wowed i am sure if they wanted to do

something they would or could. tavis: there must be a list of people who you would love to gig with like mick jones. list butt have a wish when it pops up is good for everyone. that generation was kind to me and let me on their stages or came in the studios when i was working and like now it is good to get together. i am glad to get together and people come and listen to my band's music. it is important to have that exchanges often is you can. tavis: you have said before that you are not comfortable having to explain the content of your lyrics. you think that every song is left to the interpretation of the listener. not every song writer feels similarly. tell me why you feel that way. >> that is what the exchange is.

that is the responsibility of the artist and listener. i am depending on what i write songs, that is what i am depending on. if they find that relationship in there, that is required. i think i'm not writing term papers for people. [laughter] there is nothing factual. is meant to be listened to and i do not want to get in the way. we have an experience of listening to a song and when the author tells about it is often disappointing. that is important to the process. tavis: you do have me thinking i wonder what is more lucrative, writing term papers were kids or hit records? -- for kids or hit records? >> i have not seen the numbers but i have a hunch. tavis: that is pretty big

business. i digress. how 0 excited is the band about touring with their clapton? >> i had a chance to put him on one of the solo records in 2008 or to those nine. i got some shows in germany with him. i got to play "crossroads" with him. i have a lot of fun. the guys did not play with me. tavis: how do you know, circling back to the new project, "glad have been trying to be glad all over for several years. >> we were talking about it. it does not mean that you are simply happy. it -- you could be glad that it is over. tavis: i walked into that. >> i am begging on our

relationship that you will figure that out. -- banking on our relationship that you'll figure it out. it was covered by the dave clark five. you have to go with stuff that is dirty and solid. i like that. tavis: is there any trepidation when you got back with "the wallflowers" that once you got past the racket phase and people would get it and get it together? >> there's a lot of different areas working. people respond to the group and what i do, i have no doubt they will respond to that. you will lose some people always. the ones that are faithful, i do not think they're turned off by any one record anyhow. you might have won favorite but i do not think -- i do not know

of that happens to us. i think we know what we do. we do not see parameters but what we do not matter what the song is has a familiarity to the people. tavis: have you had a chance yet, with this new project, to assess what your fan base looks like seven years later? >> well, some have gotten younger or older. we're trapped in a time machine and we look great. all of us. tavis: i am getting my chops busted in this conversation. >> we have been playing with the tour for over 20 years. as long as younger people are coming. you what new fans and you have to have new fans. it is not about an age trade you want to see a turning over and

finding new people. tavis: i love jakob dylan and i am glad to have a year. his new project is called "glad all over." that is our show for tonight. thanks for watching. as always, keep the faith. >> for more information on today's show, visit tavis smiley at pbs.org. tavis: hi, i'm tavis smiley. join me next time for a conversation with mary wilson on the 50th anniversary on the most popular trio in music history, "the supremes." that is next time. see you then. >> there is a saying that dr. king had that said there is always the right time to do the right thing. i just try to live my life every day by doing the right thing. we know that we are only halfway to completely eliminate hunger,

and we have a lot of work to do. walmart committed $2 billion to fighting hunger in the u.s. as we work together, we can stamp hunger out. >> and by contributions to you>. health happens in neighborhoods. learn more. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> be more.

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