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on this edition for sunday, march 23rd, still another satellite image shows more debris possibly connected to the disappearance of malaysian flight 370. two states with a legal battle upholding voter i.d. law. we explore the national implications. in our signature segment, the governor of kansas is trying to get young people to come back to rural america. >> this is a beautiful community. we just need to give it economic activity. >> next on "pbs newshour weekend." >> pbs newshour weekend" is made possible by judy and josh westin, joyce b. hail, the
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wreckage of the 777. in an area 1550 miles of perth australia. though conditions in the search area are said to be difficult, the prime minister voiced optimism the mystery will be solved. >> we have had a number of very credible leads. we might be on the road to discovering what did happen to this the ill-fated aircraft. >> a pair of warnssings today that russian troops along the border with ukraine could be eyeing other targets. they warned the troops were ready to move on to where russian forces are already on the ground. u.s. adviser said the russian troops could be preparing to enter ukraine and u.s. actions in ukraine would do little to change that. >> when it comes to military
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systems, the facts are these, if the systems were to go to ukraine that is unlikely to prevent an invasion. >> russian's ambassador to the european said they have no intention to move troops to ukrainian territories outside of crimea. >> nobody has anything to fear from russia. nobody in this world. >> pro russian groups clashed with police in the city. the protesters are demanding the return to power of the ousted pro-russian president. and in kiev, thousands of demonstrators many waving ukrainian flags gathered in support of ukrainian you knowty. president obama is traveling to talk to key allies. the talks are likely to focus on ukraine and tensions with russia. fighter jets shot down a warplane after it reportedly
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crossed in to turkey air space. a serial military spokesman called it blatant aggression. forces loyal to bashar al-assad have been battling rebels between turkey and syria. the chinese telecom and internet company says it is looking in to reports the u.s. national security agency infiltrated its computer and telephone networks as part of an operation. there's been an outbreak of the ebola virus in the west african nation of guinea and 50 people have died. world health organization says there have been cases reported in neighboring sierra leone. it is contagious and fatality rate of 90%. it is spread from humans with close contact to animals including monkeys and fruit bats. it is sound in africa and sudan.
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a california department of motor vehicles says it is investigating the possibility that hackers stole credit card information and other sensitive personal data from consumers who made payments of on-line between august of last year and the end of last year 2014. the agency found no evidence of a security breach but is conduct canning a review out of an abundance of caution. the california dmv handles millions of transactions on-line each year. off the coast of texas, crews are trying to contain an oil spill. a barge broke open after colliding with another ship in the houston shipping channel. one of the busiest shipping routes in the nation. it's unclear how much oil has spilled. authorities in washington state are searching for a dozen people thought to be missing after a mudslide. three people were killed and eight injured. the mudslide damaged or
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destroyed as many as 30 homes. a story this week in the "new york times" suggests that pakistan failed to cooperate with american efforts to track down osama bin laden, even though that country receives billions in american aid. the report alleges that senior pakistani officials knew all about bin laden's presence in the years before american commandos raided his compound and killed him. the distributors of the newspaper in pakistan blacked it out even though it was supposed to be displayed on the top of the page. it is adapted by a book published next month. because her piece today is so newsworthy, we asked a senior fellow at the council on foreign relations to join us to talk about it. he's the author of "no exit from pakistan." he is joining us from washington. one of the things that's striking to me is something that
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pakistan or the secret service there had a debt to protect osama bin laden. >> she talked about how there was one, if not several, members of the pakistani intelligence service, the isi, who were assigned to basically watch bin laden, presumably to help hide him and that these individuals, she believes, reported directly to the senior most members of he pakistani intelligence and military services. she gets this from a conversation that she says she had with senior pakistani officer. >> explain how the isi works. is it like the fbi versus the sheriffs department or how are they integrated in pakistani society. >> the isi is like a combination of our fbi and cia. and beyond that, our dia or defense intelligence agency.
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all together. it reports through a military chain. technically of course the pakistani military reports to the civilians. isi has been very powerful for decades. it's operated both in foreign affairs, that is in pakistan's business in afghanistan or india or else where but also at home and accused of manipulating politics inside pakistan itself. powerful, secretive, a lot of resources and often times reporting to the most powerful individuals in the country, those being military officer at think top of the army. >> that said, would the top of the army or government have known about this program to protect bin laden? >> well, that's what carlisle is saying on the basis of at least this conversation that she had with the pakistani official who's unnamed and on the basis of more circumstantial evidence. it is really hard to believe
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that somebody as significant a bin laden could be hidden for six years in what seems to be a safe house, not far from one of pakistan's major military academies without somebody knowing about it. she works off of that, some other circumstantial evidence. that is she tried to have conversations with u.s. officials. some of whom seem to suggest they weren't all that surprised by what she heard. she didn't get confirmation on the u.s. side. some are questioning as to whether a single pakistani unnamed source qualifies as enough for this blockbuster story. >> she also paints a picture of a country divided in its loyalties. one on the one hand trying to fight the taliban and on the other trying to aid portions of the taliban or al qaeda. >> yeah, that's what's confusing about a lot of this. of course, if the pakistani state were protecting osama bin laden and aiding al qaeda, that may be, but at the same time the pakistani state has been a target of al qaeda.
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u.s. officials believe that president musharraf, who's in power much of the time after 9/11, was directly attacked allocate tachlt other civilian officials have been attacked by al qaeda. the so there are layers of complexity here. one of the deep problem s that we certainly have with pakistan is it seems the pakistani military and intelligence have tried to divide up their enemies. some of them they go after clearly and others try to make deals with, look the other way on or even collude. that is what the story is linked to at its route. >> dan marky joining us from washington. thank you very much. >> thank you. ♪
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>> for decades now rural communities in the vast great plains of the united states have experienced a dramatic population decline. now kansas is offering incentives to young people to move there in an effort to breathe new life in to struggling rural counties. we have this report from northwestern kansas. >> traveling this stretch of highway 36 in rural northwest kansas in the dead of winter, it's very quiet. this is the road that leads to the town of phillipsburg. the population, just over 2500. there's only one set of stop lights, one movie theater and several restaurants. amber and patrick patterson grew up here. >> everybody knows everybody. everybody helps out everybody. it's nice. >> reporter: the pattersons were high school sweethearts wasn't to college in hayes, kansas, a city of 20,000 people an hour away. like most young people around here, they didn't think they
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would be back given the lack of opportunities. >> the job market is one of the things that made it hardest to come back lot of jobs here are set. people have been doing their job a long time and we didn't think there would be any available to come back. >> reporter: in fact jobs and people have been disappearing from rural kansas and the great plains the last 80 years. it started in the 1930s during the dust bowl and accelerated with the mechanication. >> i was raised in rural kansas i have seen it decline 50 years. >> sam brownback is the republican governor of kansas. he vowed to take action after the most recent census in which most counties reported a loss to their population. brownback's idea was to create something like a new homestead act, like the one that lured people to rural areas in the late 19th century with the
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promise of free land. >> i think there's something worth preserving. it's about knowing the person. about forming a community. we already have that. phillipsburg, kansas, parker, kansas. you know not only the person, you know their parents and maybe their grandparents. why destroy it? this is a beautiful community. we just need to give it some economic activity. >> reporter: his idea was to create what are called rural opportunity zones. in 2011, the state legislature overwhelmingly approved the plan. the roz program works like this, if you are a college grad with student loan debt, you can get up to $15,000 over five years just to move to a designated rural county in kansas that's experienced a loss in population. those coming from outside of kansas won't pay state income taxes. >> there's an old western staying that if you wear out a pair of old boots living here
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you will live here the rest of your life. five years you wear out a pair of boots and i think we will have a great chance of getting people, and not only getting people but i think we will have people coming home that have wanted to come back for some period of time. >> reporter: to help with their student loans is what brought the pattersons back in 2012. between the two of them they owed $46,000 after graduating from fort hayes state university. >> without roz, i don't know if we would be here. we were questioning if we could make it work. with our student loan and rent payment. >> we felt it was a gamble to come back. >> it made it that much easier. >> reporter: patrick started working odd jobs until he landed a position at a credit union and amber found work in customer relations at a pharmacy in town. the state and counties split the
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cost of student loan reimbursement for people like the pattersons. last year the cost of the program was $830,000. >> you built a reputation as a conservative republican in the senate and now as a gompl you are not known for big government programs. doesn't something like this fly in the face of the principals that you espouse? >> i'm a growth guy. it's about creating opportunities for people. they may decide to take them. they may not but it is about growth and creating opportunities that is consistent with what i have tried to be about. >> reporter: the governor admits the plan is a gamble. no guarantee or requirement that people taking advantage of the roz program will stay in these rural parts. take 27-year-old kellan adams. he moved to logan in phillips county seven months ago from a bigger city in kansas. adam lives here with his goichl he's receiving $3,000 a year for the next five years from the
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state and county. he told us even before he applied to the roz program he had accepted a job as principal of the town's only school but he doesn't see himself staying here. >> the reason why is i don't want to take my current superintendent's job. he and i have agreed that at this time would probably be in our interest that i pursue another position elsewhere. >> the opportunities are limited here? >> they are. >> reporter: adam says he plans to move elsewhere in kansas. but others may leave the state. >> you are offering people, you know, up to $15,000 to help with their student dechlt what if these people come in to these areas and they are like great opportunity. i was going to move here any way but let me take advantage of this and then i will leave the state. >> you could have some of that taking place. there probably will be some of it. you can see where we were and saying, all right. we can choose to do nothing. that's a legitimate policy
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choice. we were 28th most populous state in the '70s and 33rd now, heading to 35 if we don't break the trend line. i don't know any team or business that hires a coach or leader to manage slower decline. just manage the decline comfortably. you bring them in to change things. >> so far, more than 650 people are enrolled in the program. 36 of whom are living in phillips county, which includes phillipsburg and low gachbl some question the long-term initiative like this. >> it may help a few people or communities in a small way, but then it will not turn back the population. >> reporter: laslo specializes in rural population trends. he says he doubts young people
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will move to rural counties in large numbers because score jobs are scarce and because these areas lack conveniences that can be found in larger towns. he showed me the projections for phillips county. >> the population has been going down since the 1900 census. according to the projections of the census bureau we will see the same population decline. >> reporter: when you speak to people involved in this initiative, they say we have had people move back here. they are putting down roots. they are starting families, they are opening business here and there. isn't that worth something? >> it is worth something. it is very important for a place to show some signs of vitality to show others this is not a place that will go away anytime soon and really it does not work as much for others who may move there, but it does work on people who are thinking of moving away. in that sense, it may help retaining the population that is still there. >> good morning. >> kellan adams' decision to
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eventually leave is based squarely on where the jobs are. >> it has nothing to do with logan or the school or anything else. i'm looking for a position that would be obviously in the interest of my family and i have big dreams and goals. i want to be able to achieve those. >> reporter: the pattersons, on the other hand, have long-term plans to stay put. the success of the roz program will likely hinge on bringing more people like them to rural kansas. he who is living in rural communities and find out where americans are moving. visit newshour@pbs.org. a court ruling that could affect voter i.d. laws. a federal judge ruled that kansas and arizona can ask for more proof of citizenship from voters. for more we are joined by allen
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gomez who covers immigration for "usa today." this is state and federal elections. what does the ruling mean? >> if you register to vote in kansas or arizona and you sign up with a federal registration form, the feds have to amend their form require the additional proof of citizenship those states require. this has been a long battle we have been having between states and federal governments. the states want to require more proof of citizenship, passport ux birth certificate, something like that. the federal government all they require is you sign and attest that you are a citizen. that's the problem we are having. kansas and arizona are trying to get the federal government to change their voter registration forms to reflect additional requirements in those states. >> what about other states? are they watching this? >> absolutely. georgia an alabama have passed similar laws and may jump on to this quickly. it is a little late fi other states to pass similar laws this year but proponents say the
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ruling, if it stands, will open the door for more states to require more proof of citizenship once people are signing up to vote. >> none of it happens in a political vacuum. som one side say it is minimizing voter fraud. how does it play out nationally. >> the simple case to look at is kansas. that's the best example. you have 15,000 voter registration forms that are held up as they are checking additional citizenship documentation they have provided. on the other hand, critics say it is only a handful of cases ever shown that somebody has falsified their citizenship. so you are holding up 15,000 people on the account of a small number of case cans that there could be voter fraud in that case. you extrapolate that to more states. if more states are passing these laws more people could be
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affected. >> is this state versus federal rights? >> this follows what we have been seeing with immigration enforcement for example. arizona started in 2010 passing a bill that allowed state officers to enforce immigration laws more stringently. that ended up in the u.s. supreme court. the supreme court in that case ruled the federal government is the one that has ultimate -- the ultimate power to enforce immigration laws and that the states have to defer to the federal government. this has been going on as part of a broader fight n. this voter registration case, for example, there is another ruling by the u.s. supreme court last year where the supreme court ruled it is the federal government that has authority. in this case, these states, arizona in particular was required to accept rerl voter registration forms that did not include the additional voter identification. this is another step in the battle. >> this is likely to be appeal. >> absolutely. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. ♪
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this is pbs newshour weekend sunday. and now our occasional feature, the connection. as we reported yesterday, first lady gave a speech in beijing where she talked about, among other things, the value of free speech, especially free speech on-line. >> countries are stronger and more prosperous when the voices and opinions of all of their citizens can be heard. >> the comments were notable because she made them in china where they block sites like facebook, you tube and twitter like iran does. earlier this week turkey became the latest to control what its citizens see and hear on-line. the prime minister threatened to quote wipe out twitter and took steps to block it. he was facing a barrage of corruption charges many spread across social media services and
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amplified but twit every like the rest of the internet doesn't get wiped out easily. they sent out a message relayed across the web. some showed instructions how to redirect your computer around the sensors. yesterday, i talked to a man in istanbul. this 16-year-old is already tech savvy enough to use a vpn that lets your computer to pretend to be somewhere else. >> it changes your virtual location. right now i'm in virginia. >> your computer is pretending to be in virginia where twitter works just fine? >> yes. >> this has been built in to the internet. it is a decentralized free-ranging global forum creating a game of wack-a-mole. every time a government tries to suppress it pops up in several other places. letting voices of dissent be heard.
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you can see the entire interview at newshour@pbs.org. join us on air and on-line tomorrow on the newshour. senior foreign affairs correspondent continues her reporting from ukraine making her way west to the capital kiev. that's it for this edition of pbs newshour weekend. thank you for watching. pbs newshour weekend. thank you for watching. ♪ -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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