>> rose: welcome to the program, it is the end of summer so we look back at some of the best moments thon program so far. tonight in our encore presentation, women of comedy, we talk with kristin wigg, julia louis-dreyfus and kaling. >> you can't try to, you can't lie to yourself in the mirror. you ask yourself a mirror you can't lie and i have looked in the mirror and it is like what do you want to do? and it also surprised me a little bit. >> i always wanted to act. i never thought i am going to get into comedy. i have never done stand-up or anything like that. i mean these jobs that i have gotten in my life have been mainly comedic. >> not everything but a lot of them have been, it is a happy place for me to work, i enjoy it very much but i love doing drama as well. >> i believe in writing and the people that i love, they get -- and in the trenches, and you are in the trenches and i this think to have a show with a female

lead and people often say that i am very girly, i take such pride in writing jokes, it is an old-fashioned thing. >> rose: the women of comedy when we return. funding for charlie rose is provided by the following. >> there's a saying around here: you stand behind what you say. around here, we don't make excuses, we make commitments. and when you can't live up to them, you own up and make it right. some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where it's needed most. but i know you'll still find it, when you know where to look.

>> and by bloomberg. a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> kristin wigg stars in a new come difficult made herself seven seasons on saturday live and 2011 she started brides may made and almost made $300 million worldwide. >> i am going down to the river. >> rose: she turns to drama in, it is an adaptation of a short story by alice monroe, the nobel prize winning author. and kristin wigg, i am glad to have them at this table. >> when people say to you, do did they expect you to be a comedic character? >> yes.

>> i look in the camera on that one? >> rose: yes. >> yeah, i think. >> rose: do you want to change that? >> well, i mean, i want -- >> rose: it is a long way, my dear. >> i am grateful for it but i do want you -- it is its own thing and we talked about this a lot when we shot the movie and i get it. i know that people know me from comedy and when you see actors like that a lot of times you are just sort of waiting for them to do something funny and it was really interesting in toronto when we were in the movie people very laughing at certain things that i kind of wanted to turn around and -- but, yes, but it is really interesting to watch the movie with an audience and i don't know if it would have been a different reaction if it was somebody else, but i mean, i hope i can do different things. >> rose: i think you can. when you first drove to los angeles, what were you thinking

that you would get a job? >> yes. i was terrified, because i hadn't told my parent that i was -- my car was packed and my cat was in a little carry. >> carrier and i was in lieu son at the time, at the u of a there and it really was a day of thinking about it and i packed my car -- >> rose: a day? >> yes question. pretty much. i mean i just packed up and -- >> rose: if i am going to do it, i have to do it. >> it just felt like i don't know one of those things where i have learned you can't lie to yourself in the mirror, like if you look in the mirror and ask yourself a question you can't lie and i looked in the mirror and it is like what do you want to do? and it almost surprised me a little bit. i was like i don't want to be here. i think it is tucson. >> rose: at -- >> oh, i am still bad at years. 1990 something. >> rose: no, no. what year in college were you? >> oh, oh.

i was a junior. >> rose: ah. >> yeah. and, yeah, it just sort of happened, and my roommate at the time in college lived in la so i stayed with her and just kind of happened. and then i called my parents. >> rose: i am in la. >> yeah. you know, i got two very different reactions. i mean, they were both like what are you talking about? >> rose: who was more supportive, mother or father? >> i think they showed support in different ways, i think my dad was more of a concern, you know, like what the hell are you doing in the most loving way possible. but they were both very surprised, that i never really talked about acting or done anything like that as a kid. and, you know, when you tell your parents something like that, they do tend to -- >> and the numbers, it is like a lot of people go out there and a lot of people don't do good and i am sure one of every -- >> rose: why did you go?

>> >> rose:. >> rose: why did you want to act? >> i don't know, it is such a hard yes, it was just sort of liklike in me. i took a class at school and i like it but i wasn't -- i don't know, my teacher was actually very supportive, and i in never thought of doing it and i said no. >> rose: the groundling? >> yes, that is in la, yes, a theatre improv comedy group, and i never had seen improv before and i saw show and i was like, i want to do that. >> rose: that's what i want to be. >> and i signed up for classes right away and that theatre changed my life, yeah. >> how did lauren hear about you? >> i -- a lot of of times you just sort of send tapes in, you write snl new york and it gets there. yeah, i send a tape in, it was just like, little things i had done, little bits on like sitcoms and like a lot of stuff from groundling characters.

>> and you auditions before before loren and tina fey. >> yes when you audition you go into. >> the studio and you go on the stage and you -- they are there, you hear they are all there, but you don't really see -- kind of like this set. >> rose: yes. >> where it is like what is back there? it is like a glass -- it goes on forever. >> rose: yes. nobody -- >> you go up there and five minutes and very clear, like. >> rose: show us what you have got. >> yes, and i did every character, impression, anything i could think of. >> rose: how did you think you did? >> >> i mean i never usually -- i failed it. especially because it is not, you know, it is not like a room of -- there is not a lot going on, it is really you, the camera is on you, the light, i mean it is like, it is very intimidating, and then i got the call to come back again and

audition, and it is like what am i going to do? because i have done every voice i can do. so i went back again and i didn't hear anything, and then the season started, so -- >> i didn't get the -- >> rose: when you do a character did do you try get the voice first? >> it is all different. sometimes it is the voice, sometimes you will overhear someone at the grocery store, seeing something funny and you write it down and you somehow like -- yeah or someone in your family or, you know. bill -- yes, because he is so great. he is great when he came here. >> yes. he is one of those people that when you do the table read on wednesday, it is like you get excited when he is going to do something, because you read the character description of like bill walks in as a blah, blah, blah, and, you know, we will start talking just to see what

he does with that description, and the way he can manipulate his voice and not to mention he is just like the nicest guy, the best. >> rose: loren michaels says you are one of the three or four best he has ever seen. >> oh, wow. >> rose: and that is belushi. >> oh, my gosh, wow. >> rose: that is pretty good. >> yes. yes. i am speechless. very nice. >> how do you grow at saturday night live? >> >> rose: is it just doing it or is it being in front of all the people there, the family that is there? >> it is a lot -- >> rose: the ever changing family. >> yes. i think it is a lot of things and it is going to sound like can cliche and stupid but you can't really expect anything and you have to just remember it's fun, because by the nature of the show, it could be very competitive, because we read 40 sketches a week, and saturday at 11:30 it is eight, so you don't

know how much you are going to be in the show. you could have a good week, a bad week and you just sort of have to like know there is is always next week and, you know, just be supportive of each other, because it is an ensemble and i think that the more you think about yourself, you probably have a worse time. >> are you and bill doing a movie together. >> we did a movie together. >> skeletons? >> yes. we play twins. >> you play twins? >> yes. >> do you think that would be -- i had brown hair. >> >> very excited about it. >> rose: thank you for coming. >> thanks very for having me. i will just walk into the -- i am going to see if there is narnia back here and meet the goat man. >> rose: the black hole is what it is. >> rose: louis-dreyfus is here, rolling stone magazine calls her the first lady of comedy, julia louis-dreyfus, i am pleased to have julia

louis-dreyfus back at this table, welcome. >> thank you very much. >> tell me who the character is, who is -- >> oh, lord, who is she? she is a political animal who has been i would say too long in the, inside the beltway and is someone who is desperate for power and also obviously completely frustrated and thwarted by power and has sort of lost her moral center. and. >> rose: just like people in washington and hollywood? >> yes. to a certain extent, yes. the parallels are -- >> you have talked about that. >> yes. >> rose: what are the parallels, you think? >> well, i think the parallels are you have to constantly be working to stay alive, you know, to stay sort of crucial, and you are selling yourself in a sense, you selling a brand, i guess you could say, and you are -- you are selling an image of yourself. hopefully, you know, there is

more depth to it than that, but we are talking about it, i -- >> in the broad stroke. >> yes. >> a lot of food people in both places who don't suffer from the stereotype. >> that's right, you looking at one, for example. >> rose: there is also this, though. it was often said them washington really admire, love people in hollywood and want to be with them, people in hollywood love power in washington and want to be with them. >> yeah, i think that's true. >> rose: kind of love each other. >> and also the ego thing, they need a lot of adulation too. >> there is a bubble aspect to both universes that is real but anyway this is somebody who is -- i feel bad for her, she is a terrible person in many ways but i understand why she is as frustrated and angry and narcissistic as she is. >> when you heard about the script you wanted the role, you said to everybody around, there is for me? >> oh, lord. >> rose: lord, okay, lord. >> i heard, there wasn't even a script i just heard the. >> rose: who the character

was. >> i heard unhappy vice president, i am like, i am in. i have got to have this job. >> what was it about that small description that made you in? >> what is not to love? i mean, she is, first of all, vice president, not president, so immediately there is sort of, you know, with all due respect, yes there is a conflict there, there is a problem. she -- >> rose: second is second and wants to be number one. >> who wants to be number two, ultimately if you run a race do you want t to come in second? >> no. >> no. and so she is not happy about it, so -- it sounded very right to me for comedy and ripe for comedy and it proven to be the case. >> rose: you have a certain familiarity with washington and grew up between washington and new york? >> i did, yes. i mean -- >> rose: as a politician -- >> never, never. but. >> rose: what would you have whe been if you weren't a comedian or actress? >> i think the only thing i could have been -- i don't know if this job exists but if

somebody could give me money to buy things for myself, is that job available? >> rose: no. >> i have no skills. >> unless your father sold all the paintings and gave at all the money to you and said have a good time. >> i suppose if he had to choose between jeffrey and you -- >> i have no other skills than -- >> rose: you happened to do the right thing for you? >> i think so, yes, yes. >> you have a great marriage? >> i have a very, very great marriage. so damned great, it is a beautiful marriage and i have a lovely husband and i lucked out. >> rose: and you work together? >> yes, we do, we have worked to the. >> rose: he sat down and says he loves it. >> obviously we have known each other a long time and we have a similar sensibility an and aesthetic sense so most recently we made this documentary and. >> about your father. >> about my father. >> rose: the generosity. >> the generosity of i and

anybody can go on the computer and go to generosity of i and watch it for free. >> and it is about. >> it is about my father and he has been an art collector for, you know, 50 years now and he has amass add huge collection and now, he made the decision to set it up as an endowment to benefit the harlem children's zone. >> to -- >> the idea is it is a long-term endowment so it is structured so that, you know, as particular pieces are sold, those funds will then go to the harlem's children center, it is not like all of a sudden. >> if you sold them all -- >> exactly so as the very long term gift but it is an unusual one because it is art tran forming transforming into education so we did this documentary about it. we spoke do many of the artist whose are represented in the collection and at length with my father, and it was actually a great opportunity to get to know

certain things about my dad, george bruzzi, he wrote an e-mail. listen to what he said. it is very sweet. i wanted to relay a thought to your father, yesterday when he was talking about how strongly he felt about art, which is so clear, he say that it was what he would be doing if he did indeed have the -- although it seems true that the artist works alone, that is not really the case. when your father started collecting my work, i was on the verge of burnout, i was a relative nobody, still am really and the fact he wanted the work was not just helpful in a financial way, it was an enormous vote of confidence, i can say with complete confidence i would not be where i am without william, i respect his opinion and his eye. he is a true patron in the best sense of the word so i hope he realizes he is indeed an integral part of the process of creating art, even if the brush isn't in his hand. i think that is sweet.

you are a very serious artist, george, and to take the time to say all of that, shea very serious artist, and to take the time to say that, and i think his work is wonderful. >> rose: what did you learn about your dad? >> i learned that my father is much more -- i didn't understand the depth of his emotional investment, the energy that he has put into the artist whose work he has collected. he has a very, very, big life in the art world that i wasn't really familiar with. >> rose: are you serious? >> well. >> he is your father. >> i know but she a private guy and there are aspects -- i knew a lot of this art was not in our house and he -- amassed all of this art but i didn't know the

extent of the relationship he had with these various people, and i mean, that is a part of it and it was exciting to see. and also the -- also, very sort of exhilarating to talk to him about why he was doing, making this gift, and that was nice too. >> rose: iniuchi said she is not just a natural comedic performer, she is a natural comedic brain. what does he mean? >> you have an intellectual or some kind of very smart sense of comedy. >> well, i have been doing it a long time, you know, so, and i very much enjoy picking things apart completedcally and, comedically and mining stuff within a scene. his material is so brilliant it

is easy to do because when it is working, when the material is working on the page, it is that much easier to find more to add to it, not because it needs it but just to help enhance and make it, you know, and so the material is so rich that he creates that it is kind of frankly it is a breeze. >> rose: it is. >> well, because material is so good, you know what i mean? and but i do love. >> rose: your, the writing makes your job a lot easier. >> yes, it does. >> but he says you are a natural comedic brain and performer. if i had known you as a teenager would i have seen that? were you that way then? >> uh-huh, yeah, probably, yes. i mean. >> so you were destined to be a comedic. >> i mean i always wanted to act. i never thought about i am going to get into comedy. i have never done stand-up or anything like that. i mean, these jobs that i have gotten in my life have been mainly comedic, not everything but a lot of them have been. it is a happy place for me to

work, i enjoy it very much but i love doing drama as well and i really do, actually. >> was seinfeld a natural home for you? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> rose: it was? >> oh, totally. i mean, seinfeld was, it is funny, because larry david who, you know created this show with jerry, larry and i knew each other from snl days and he, you know, he and i were both miserable at snl at the time. >> because? >> because it was not a good time at snl, it was dog-eat-dog and wasn't get any material in the air, i wasn't get time on the air except little parts and stuff for the most part, and so we were miserable together and we sort of enjoyed being miserable together, then he got the show on nbc and it is like all of a sudden, i mean, there was this feeling like the people who were running the show, our show seinfeld, we were sort of

like, you know, the nuts running the asylum, it is like i can't believe we are getting away from this so that's what it felt like and that was fun. >> let's talk about all of the projects too, first of all you went from snl to seinfeld and seinfeld to a variety of other things but the film you made with james gal by any. >> yes,. enough said. >> enough side and released after he died. >> yes, it was, it was, directed, written and directed by nicole hol -- and that was another joy to make. i have had a lot of, very good gigs recently, i mean needless to say i which james gandolfini were here to enjoy the results of his work, but it was a wonderful thing to be able to work with him on that film and really proud of how it came out, yes. >> rose: and sort of returning to drama for you too. >> right, exactly. i mean, there were comedic elements to it but i think ultimately it was more of maybe a drama --

>> is film different than television for you? >> well, certain kinds of television. i mean for instance, deep whichh is shot with a single camera we might as well be making a movie, it is movie hours, and that is really -- well, there is that and then of course you don't have an audience like we did on sign geld, you know that was a laugh track, an audience we had all the time, so which is a delicious experience to, you know, have an audience. but now that i haven't been, i have been doing it for a while i am used to the single camera thing and gotten used to that. so that is more like film making yes. >> and what was the picture paris about? >> oh, picture paris is a short film i made with my husband, brad hall, and that he. >> rose: is that a woman that is leaving, the empty nest after the kids have left. >> yes. her parents have gone off to college and she has a plant for her husband to, she and i have going off to paris together and reinvent their lives and things don't quite

work out the way they should and that was a short film. >> rose: and. >> and then some. but there are twists and turns you don't see coming. >> here is a clip from that, here he is. >> ♪ >> >> in some way, you are french. >> yes, my father was born in

france, and that part of my family is very french, yes. but my father is an american citizen. he has lived here for many years so i have a family -- >> but you go back and forth a lot? >> not as often as i would like to. we were talking about it. >> rose: going back to paris as much as we would like to because there are always things. >> that keep getting in the way but there is this .0, plenty of life ahead so i plan ongoing soon, i would like to, yes. >> rose: what is it you would like to do that you have not yet done in terms of acting an comedy and drama and -- >> >> well, i guess i would like to -- >> rose: i mean you have had television hits of two kind now. >> yes. i think i would like to keep it up. >> i mean, really, because -- >> rose: do it over and over. >> i would like to. i do very much like working. and i love collaborating with people whom i respect tremendously, and so i would like to keep doing that.

i wouldn't mind dipping my toe with a little more -- in the dramatic material area. i mean, it was really a thrill for me to do that and i wouldn't mind doing more of that, only because i haven't done tons and tons of it and it is something a little different. >> rose: so you are thrilled about the renewal for another season. >> yes. >> where do you want to take this character? the vice president? >> this vice president became president at the end of season 3 and so we have a new sort of landscape, a new stage starting in season four, so. >> rose: what does she want to be now she is president? >> that's exactly what does she want to be? well, she is president, but she is trying to -- he is also running for president at the same time,. >> rose: right. >> so she has got to try to stay alive, nothing is easy, nothing comes easy for her and

>> rose: mindy kaling is the star of the mindy project, the comedy series returns to fox this tuesday, and has just been renewed for a new season, also the show's creator writer and coexecutive producer, i am pleased to have her here on this program, welcome. >> thank you, so happy to be here. there is a measure of stardom in this building there is a whole lot of people that work here and when they somehow converge on the floor i have my studio you know that something special is

going on. what do you think it is? >> i am so excited to hear that. >> rose: what do you represent? >> what do i represent? i don't know. i think fat for young women, particularly minority women, that i have the job that i have f it is exciting for them and i know that i try not to think about it too much because there are other things to do but being the first african-american woman with their own show and the show is not particularly about race is r>ally exciting for people, and i love that, and it feels like a nice responsibility. >> what is it about? >> what is the show about? >> yes. >> the show is not -- the show is about being a better person and someone who is selfish and boy crazy, who is certified of ayning, who is very pressurely professionally busy and

accomplished, but who is going around and doings things that a little beneath her intelligence but still fixated on them. i know plenty of women who are doctors, lawyers, professors, even, who are candidly want to get married and they have great lives, they have money, they have got relationships with their friends and they want to get married. and there is an embarrassment you feel if you are a little over educated for wanting though things but it exists and i think that is what this show is about. >> rose: and i heard about you preparing for this conversation, you know a little bit about me. and when i sat down with you, this is true, you just seem like a person i would really like to know, and we talked about magazine covers, we talked about observations about life, you know and i think that is part of what you have, people feel like they are interested in what you say and who you are because there is an authenticity about

you. >> that is very kind of you, that is such a nice compliment. the nicest thing i hear and i hear it a lot is women especially saying they wished that i was their best friend which is -- >> rose: i wish you were my best friend. >> i don't hear it from straight men that often but i think that is little more -- that is very nice to hear. >> rose:, no, especially now here is your book, and everything hanging out without me, i mean here is l magazine, i mean all of this suggests that you created your own thing and then they came to you. >> i am very proud of the way that i have made my way, because i do feel that i -- my mother was a surgeon, my father is an architect, grew up in independent i can't naah and moved to africa and came here, and, they met in africa and came here and there is to people on tv on this side of my family, no entertainers to speak of and really blessed to have parents who growing up loved seinfeld,

loved bills cosby, loved george carlin an encouraged this although they didn't quite understand it. and i just. >> i really feel, and this is -- this is going to sound like 1,000 years old but this could only happen in america and i am weird he patriotic because my parents are immigrant and i feel so unbelievably lucky that it just came from grit, you know matt what i mean? i know 34-year-old woman talks about their own grit, but i feel like. >> rose: determination and -- >> my mother, who immigrated to this country worked, i talk uh about creating a show but back breakingly hard to have sort of a career here, essentially again after moving from africa and so i virtually never saw either of my parents growing up because of how hard they worked, but i applied that to entertainment and it worked out, to me, which to me just makes me kind of feel good about the country in a way

because i couldn't have done this -- >> what is the vision for the mindy project? >> i love how -- have spoke ken about it a lot. what is silly about that and what is wonderful about that, but in general i found that recently, some pieces on romance are not comedy at all. like you have, comedies and barcelona is wonderfully funny and i think now it is just about romance and girls wearing fancy dresses and falling into cakes and things like that and i came up from the office and i came up from a group of very hard comedy writers. >> rose: which you were one? >> i believe i am. i can say -- i believe in writing and the people i love, joke, they get -- in the trenches, you are in the trenches and i think to have a show with a female lead and people often say i am very girly, i take such pride in writing jokes and it is a very

old-fashioned thing, it is something that mel brooks did, cesar did and that's how i was trained at the office and tina fey but the central on the hard joke, and i wanted that to be in my show. >> rose: what is a hard joke? >> if that is okay there are a lot of shows that are on like attitude -- and fashion and poses and -- hard joke to me, first of all makes you laugh out loud and a lot of comedy, and i think my show necessarily would make you laugh out loud, i think it is nun i. but it is like there is a crafted joke and it has like -- >> rose: it shows craftsmanship? >> yes. >> rose: well written. people know it has been finely-tuned? >> yes, like seinfeld said to me

and others it is not easy. he stopped the seinfeld show because it was so hard, and they came to him, nbc and just want dodd load up the truck and just drop money on him and he said no, i mean, i was writing on christmas eve last year, i don't want to do that this year, it is hard. >> rose:. >> it is hard. like she the master of jokes because he is so good and he doesn't -- like really, for instance, so his whole life, he is one of the funniest people i think ever born, and it is like he is telling stories about his life, but the jokes for seinfeld is amazing in other ways he doesn't write you in at all and you live or die by the goodness of his jokes and the they are so good. >> where are you on that arc? >> between letting him in and not letting him in? >> the show, the character in the show is very wild and parties but i myself am very different from her. i was saying on the show last year i think she had like nine

boyfriends on the show and i am thinking like, god, i only know nine men in my life, i haven't met nine men. >> you are working so hard. >> yes. so i like that, it is really fun, i really like that character. but i am more retired. >> rose: does stardom change that? >> i don't know that i have stardom, actually. i think that, and the cover of this, but i think that in general -- >> rose: in the magazine -- do you know how many people would love to be on the cover of elle magazine? >> one thing about fashion magazines they tell you not to smile that you look much more alluring but but me alluring? you live your whole life to be told you are alluring and that's why i like that cover while beautiful it is not a representation of what my personality is like, which is --

>> rose: this would be joe nowak, then, you know him. >> i know him well, yes. >> rose: he said she is a gangster. >> i love that. >> what do you think he meant? >> well, i think he meant, and i don't think he meant this in a bad way, that there are some very masculine aspect of my personality, and -- >> rose: tough, determined? driven? >> decisive. >> decisive. >> when i started up the show i think people were surprised how decisive i was, and in general, we don't see that in women, especially not in entertainment, decisiveness without disclaimers and in fact it can seem very kurt, but when i write something and don't like something and i notice a lot of women are like, i feel like that might be a good option although i see both sides of it and i am not like that at all. which in a man seems natural, and inspires confidence, in a woman, can seem brusque and i

know that and i kind of wish i wasn't that way, but i can't help it. i am inpatient, because i think, which i think is another gangster quality but did you ever see the documentary about -- >> rose: oh, yes, yes. >> they asked her, what makes you a good leader? and it is almost like the timing was perfect without he is addition she said my decisiveness, and people think she is cold. and i bet it is because of they are scared by her certainty. and i thought, well, it is not thad bad, that bad, she is one of the great minds. >> rose: like larry page i think he would say the same thing. >> yes, yes. >> they don't let perfect be the enemy of good, they are prepared to make a decision, even that if it may not be a perfect decision. >> i think that is the perfect way to live my life, of course i love it. that is a very -- i want to memorize that so i can justify

-- my nature. >> tell me about dr. mindy hilari. >> mindy, i love her and i think she is an incredibly original character because politically they is all over the map she has real streaks of. >> and some of the things that mindy, there is such -- so my character says things like, i don't like that motorcycle i think it makes it look poor, frankly, she has like that kind of energy about it, and she has the conviction of knowing things are correct because she feels they are correct. and -- >> could you make it more interesting? i mean is it possible to make her more interesting because she is the way she has the background she has and looks the way she does? >> my character probably could not exist, i think it is a good

point if she was not indian. >> rose: exactly. >> because if i was being played by, frankly, a thin, beautiful blonde woman you might find it incredibly insufferable, but i have the trappings of a marginalized person and when that person is like decisively saying sort of, things, all over the map things, another thing about my character i love she is constantly insisting that she is young and hot to everyone. and she is always saying like, i am a smoking hot doctor that makes a lot of known, why can't i meet anybody? and you have the confidence like so delusional and i don't feel that. >> it is not my fault it is someone else's fault i am not meeting somebody? >> right. people are against her and she is lick -- he is very quirky and like, people can't really get her down, which i think is nice. >> here is a clip from the spring premiere episode of mindy project coming up on april 1st. here it is. >> okay, you two get out of here and do something useful, scram.

sit down. >> see this? i want you to show me on this what you did to cliff last night. >> what? >> show me. >> okay. this is dumb. >> sure. fine. >> his arm was -- i don't know, like here, and his hand was examine i guess a bit cupped. >> on the breast? yes. >> what else and my hand was here and that reaches. >> that is the groin. >> i didn't sleep with chris, i slept next to chris because he was very sad. >> rose: what do you mean nothing major happened? >> i mass stand his jeans. >> was he in the jeans? >> chris, i had my hand -- you have any heart. and you will have do write a eulogy for me. >> no. >> no, no, you write the eulogy by yourself. i, you sprained your hand last

night, you know what irg=ñx÷xxxx had not done a lot of comedy when i first approached him for the role. he, in fact, was in damages playing a soldier in iraq, and -- but there was something about his intensity that i sound like a 15-year-old girl when i talk to him. you can see, and there is something about him that was so masculine and so tough i thought played very well with my energy, and it turned out to be correct,

because i think we have good chemistry. >> rose: all the cameos, specifically, james franco. >> uh-huh. >> rose: come to your mind? >> well, we are very lucky on the show because it is a dating show, and so many of my friends who are writers and, you know, creators are men who could -- so we have a lot of writers and arguments on the show, actors on the show. >> he was on the show. he is wonderful. seth rogan, we have a lot of writer performers that come and play on the show. >> rose: does your success represent i mean anything about diversity, anything about the possibilities of expanding the world of women in comedy? >> i hope so. i have some, even when i started on the office, and that was nine years ago, when i started on the show, there were not that many female comedy shows, and now

several of my favorite shows like dirty rock, that is sort of the way i write, not only that, not only are they -- they have created their own show. even in the years i have been there it has changed a lot. now, being -- i mean, i hope there are more women who look like me who have their own shows. and it is a hit show, actually. many people watch that show so -- >> rose: what do you think of lena dunham's work. >> i love lena. >> rose: you love her or love the character or both? >> i think the character is hard to love. that is a very, very interesting and very selfish character. >> rose: because she is an exhibitionist or -- >> exhibitionist thing has never bothered me although a lot of people are offended by it. she is in many ways like my character, the character is extremely confident in a,

supremely confident where she doesn't necessarily have the goods to back it up whichj were raised that way. >> rose: so she grew up in an environment that was much more accepting of -- >> yes. she grew up in manhattan with artists as parents and, yeah, yeah, i didn't have that. i am not saying that it was always comfortable watching it but i always -- i love it and i will say that originality, there

is nothing like it on television. and originality is truly i think the most important thing in a show. it is why the people who wrote my show love it because they are not finding that in any other show. and why lena is such a lightning rod because no matter what you say about her, no one is doing it and only she can do it. >> rose: now did you realize that about yourself at an early age, i mean, look, i have to find what is unique and original about me and write to that? >> you know, i don't know if i looked for it, he was talking on the show, talking about the essence of funny. >> rose: right. and he was saying, and he said, even qualified it by saying, i know this is going to sound cock cocky but there are these people that are funny and i have felt in my life that when people are drawn to me and my opinions, it always has been the things that are less effortful, which i thought was very lucky, you

know, to be kind of a new money child of immigrants and very patriotic and i have this very strange mix of qualities who love comedy, all those things are, i am blessed with, i am blessed with this kind of original point of view for many measures and what i really love, people are drawn to it. there aren't a lot of people like me, or there are girls who like the show and specific, but it is reaching them and that's one of the nicest things about the show. it is reaching people who are not the children of indian immigrants. >> isn't it an extension of the office? >> i run my writer's room because greg daniels who created the american office, we will is my mentor, is brilliant, the type of writers on my show are very -- a couple of whom are from the office. i run the room the same way, but it is such a different show, i mean that was a mocumemtary

which is beautiful, it was beautiful, but it was simple .. and my show is not at all like that. what is beautiful is beautiful. it is a very more and more show. people have money, it is in new york city, not in scranton, pennsylvania, but i run the room in the same way. so totally i think there is a lot of similarities. >> rose: and you learn with what from carell? >> carell? well, on the office, i was number 14 on the call sheet, which means there =hlv actors that precede me in importance. it is kind of nice to openly say things like that. >> rose: right. >> and i am 14 which is very low in the totem pole and steve of course is number one, and what is nice when you number 14 and on a show for eight years you don't have that many lines so you listen, so i am in these long scenes that are in the

conference room, ascending virtual, assailing virtually every person with the lines i wrote, every 25 episodes of the office and i watched him and it was like going to graduate school, and i don't care if you are the least funny person in the world but if you watch steve carell over and over you become funny. >> rose: you mean you think funny? >> i think you pick up comedy, and ed helms is on the show and i with went into this show i think i was a funny person, but -- >> rose: at age 24? >> osmosis, how can you not be funny when steve carell is doing that for so long? i was very lucky that wit way. >> rose: i must be funny because they hired me to come here? >> no one ever told me i wasn't confident, i haven't suffered from lack of confidence but what i thought was so great, one thing great about indian womaned being on the show there are things that steve did that i believe i am straight up copying, moves he did, comedy

moves but you would never suspect it on me because i am an indian womaned it doesn't translate as copying and that's one of the great benefits of kind of looking the way i do. >> rose: is that part of what you think the characters in the project that they, mindy project see, it is confidence and at the say same time you are looking for relationship and looking for love and all the things but there is a confidence about mindy? >> >> and that's what young women identify with? >> >> they can almost project? >> i think they really like that -- >> rose: that i would like to be that, they say to themselves? >> i think so. >> rose: that's the attitude i would like to have. >> she never gets upset, in the show many people every episode tell her that she is overweight, that she is not acting professionally and the things that typically make women in this country at least, women i know feel less than or powerless, until, being told they are fat, being told they

are ugly, being told they are too old, they tend not to affect her, and i love that i can play that character, you know, and she is a little delusional and she does a lot of terrible things, but that particular sensitivity doesn't affect her, and if women can learn that from me, because i am weirdly often, i read comments about me, and i think this comes from my mother, because both of my parents were hypereducated, people can tell you if you fat or ugly but if people tell you you are not smart that is the worst. if you are not smart, they put a premium on education, first of all, but that is truly a shameful thing, to be uneducated. >> rose: so what do your parents think of all of this? >> my father delights in it. i think, you know, it is racy

and sexy stuff in it. >> rose: he doesn't mind that? >> he doesn't mind that. my mother would have loved it, she passed away two years ago but she was -- she would have loved it and my mother did not -- she was unimpressed by almost everything. she loved the office but she would give me her honest opinion when she didn't think it was fun any. >> was that good for you? >> very good. >> and your toughness of mind could accept it without -- >> well, my mom was very glamorous, very formidable, she was a surgeon and she -- when she said something to me, she would never tell me a compliment unless it was 100 percent true and one of those people and i am sure you have them in your life one of the few people where you believe them inherently, you goat a certain level where you wonder if people are telling you things you want to hear because, you know, and she was that person more than -- >> rose: more than anybody. >> my brother, my father, she was that person, she would have

loved it. she would have had her list of suggestions, but i think she would have loved it. >> rose: 2.8 million followers. on twitter. 2.8 million followers. is that something that you with great urgency and will wanted to have, a strong presence in social media? >> no, and i think that -- i am 34, and i think i am just a little bit aged out of -- i still think of social media, because they didn't have facebook in high school, as a little suspicious of it, and the i love twitter, but i think of it as a trifle because i didn't have it at the time when it could have been important, because i got into -- i got into twitter at age 30 as opposed to

age 16, i love it but it seems like bubble gum to me. to put any importance on social media is, to me, it is not a good use -- when people submit scripts as writers to my show -- >> rose: 2.3 million followers. >> i say very funny things. it is like -- >> rose: so think about this for me. when you dream, what do you dream? when you think about what might be, what do you think? >> i mean is it oprah like? >> >> wow. i want so much, that's the problem is that i have -- i have too many desires and it is a good thing i am hindu because my desires of what my ambitions encompass many more lives than the one i have right now. i want too much.

and it is why i can't stick to a diet, to be honest, because i want to try that and i want to try that and i want to do that, and it is the same thing with my career i look at oprah and yes, that is pretty amazing. she has an empire, people know her and then i look atwood difficult allen, or anderson who don't produce anyone else's work and just do their own, and jj abrams who does a lot with other people's work and directions on television and tv. >> rose: every platform. >> and i want kids, i am a classic narcissist, i am great i should have more of me, younger versions of me. so i don't know how i am going to do it all, so then i have to do some of it in the next, other life. but i, you know, my eyes have always been bigger than my stomach, i say, so -- >> rose: i haven't heard that since my mother told me. >> it is something older women say, it is not like a sexy thing

that maybe a young actor should say but i do feel that way. i would love to direct something i wrote. that would be nice. >> rose: thank you for coming. >> thank you for having me. >> rose: a pleasure. >> for more about this program and early episodes visit us on online at pbs.org and charlierose.com. >> captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org

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