welcome to "charlie rose: the week." i'm myle miles o'brien for the s "newshour". congress holds hearings over hillary clinton's e-mails. and the song writing sisters keegan and sarah release their eighth album. (singing) xd we will have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider

of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: so you began how? have that conversation. >> rose: is it luck or something else? >> coming together on issues. >> rose: what's the object rose:q everything into our significance of the moment. >> this is the week police were ambushed in the streets of dallas. hillary clinton was cleared by the f.b.i. of any criminal wrongdoing over here email server. and american joey chestnut ateñ8 record 70 hot dogs to retain his title in nathan's annual fourth of july hot dog eating contest. here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. >> breaking news, a fresh act of madness. >> there has been a vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement. >> the fifth police officer has

now died. >> the world mourning holocaust survivor and no bell laureate elie wiesel. >> terror puts the world on edge. >> the deadliest terror attack in over a year when a bomb goes off in a shopping mall in busy downtown baghdad. >> in baton rouge, cell phone video raising attention after a fatal shooting of a black man by police. >> she lied to the country when she said she did not send classified information on her server. she lied! >> clinton's adversaries lash out after the f.b.i.'s recommendation. >> why does she get away with these things? why did bill clinton get on the plane with loretta lynch? >> fireworks at the nation's 240th birthday party..2♪ back ih

doubts of jupiter in her head ♪ >> after a five-year journey, juno is in orbit around jupiter. ♪ got to keep your head up >> top seed novak djokovic knocked out. >> i don't want to take anything out to have the victory for my opponent today. he played very well. >> growing concern over water quality in rio. >> nearly half the sewage pouring into the bay is untreated. ♪ don't drink the water >> the issues of guns, policing and race have all come together to dominate the news this week. one suspect is dead and three others are in custody as the investigation continues in dallas where police were ambushed following a peaceful "black lives matter" protest. five officers are also dead and six are wounded. here now from dallas is my colleague hari sreenivasan of

the pbs "newshour". hari, bring us up to date. there's been a lot of confusion in the wake of this, understandably, about whether there was one person who acted alone or multiple suspects. what do we know? >> right now, jeh johnson from the department of homeland security says there is no reason to believe this was part of a larger international terror plot or if this individual was connected t to any black nationalist organizations. that said the dallas police has in custody a few more suspects and they haven't actually given us any more information on how those suspects may be tied into this. >> any indication of whether there will be further arrests or is thatxdq goes? do w we know? >> no ethey haven't said that. they're saying they're trying to follow every lead. they're not completely convinced who they have is indent or guilty. they want more information to find out how this happened.

>> the suspect demonstrated quite a bit of capability presumably from his military training. >> when they went into his house, authorities say they found a detailed combatman yule in his home and among other thingsñih bombmaking materials and they think this individual has planned this out for quite some time. >> that's interesting because the protest itself was not planned out for some time. does it appear he was waiting for an event? >> that's a possibility because he had said to the police yesterday that he was interested in killing white people and portunity to know that policen would be on the streets essentially walking with the in fact, the police yesterday were not in their riot gear, most were in standard uniforms, didn't have that you are

bulletproof vests on. this wasn't an i vent they expected protests to turn violent. >> you are a former resident of dallas. what's it been like being back under these very difficult circumstances? >> it's a very strange thing. i lived here a few years and just behind me, downtown is essentially one large crime scene. there is an eenormous set of blocks where you would normally have the financial center of the city. it's all but empty right now. really, there's more of us, meaning reporters, than outnumbering citizens. you drive by any street corner and you see reporters with cameras pointing at them talking about how empty things are. >> the dallas protest was just one of several nationwide that had been called following the shooting deaths this week of

alton sterling and philando castile. the men, both black, were killed by police in separate incidents that were both caught on camera. with me now iy jelani cobb of the "new yorker" magazine to talk about this. such a horrifying week, it's hard to put words to it. you've attempted. you talk about the layer cake of horrible issues involved in this. the first that comes to mind is race. the governor of minnesota said wouldn't have happened if that had been a white person in that car. do you believe that? >> yeah, i do. or at least it's far less likely to have happened. one of the things that happens with police shootings in this country is that we have a large number of them, disproportionate number of them that affect people of color, a disproportionate number of them that happen with communities of color and people of color, but even we took all the african-americans and latinos out of that equation for the total number of police shootings, we would still have violence happening at rates that

would horrify most western democracies. >> how much does dallas change the whole equation? i mean, "black lives matter" is a movement. i think we could say that up to this point. does that stop it? >> ithink dallas is catastrophic for lots of reasons, and certainly for people who were interested in having a conversation around police accountability, it becomes infinitely more difficult to have that conversation because, now, we're much more acclimated or inclined to think about the dangers that police face, something we should be thinking about, but what we rarely talk about is the danger that is involved in being on thr other end of that interaction with the police, and that's not going to happen, at least not for a really longñjr time right now. >> by all accounts, dallas police, we are told, were judicious in their use of force, racially sensitive, all the things we would hope to expect out of a big-city police department. there's a bit of irony here.

>> there is. actually, two ironies, when we look at the philando castile situation in minnesota, he did what a motorist is supposed to do and followed the best protocol and practices. when he's pulled over, he tells the person he has a firearm in the car and is licensed to carry it and from what we know now, it culminates in him being shot fatally. >> we have a bit of a tinderbox in this country. how concerned are you about what's going to happen in the near-term future and what can be done to sort of calm things down on all sides? >> i think any reasonable person would be worried that these tensions can become further inflamed, and if we had a trench of division between us previously, we have a canyon now. the public feels jeopardized by police officers who may be too quick with the firearm, and the police officers feel jeopardized by a public that is heavily

armed. as long as we're in the cycle, in the loop, we won't find ourselves outside of it. >> turning now to politics, hillary clinton's campaign had hoped that the f.b.i.'s decision not to recommend prosecutions would have closed the book on her use of a private email server. it may have opened a new chapter, instead. the state department has reopened its investigation, and a new round of congressional hearings began thursday with f.b.i. director james comey. dan balz has more, joins me from the officesq post" where he is the paper's chief correspondent. thank you for being with us. >> good to be with you. comey on the hill testifying, how did it play? >> well, it didn't play very well for secretary clinton, that's for sure. director comey got a series of very tough questions from reps

about how he could square the description of what happened with his ultimate decision not to recommend prosecution, and i think there were some telling moments in that, but i think, overall, it was simply a reminder, as you suggested, that this is an issue that is going to be with us and certainly with secretary clinton through the duration of this campaign. in no way did the lack of prosecution close the books on this episode. >> director comey was speaking in the word -- in the language, i should say, of the law, and of course politicians being politicians are speaking politics. one to have the members of congress said, you know, if the average joe had done what hillary clinton did, he or she would be let off in hand -- led off in handcuffs. mr. comey said, no, that's not exactly what the law says. walk us through that, if you would. >> well, i think what he wa%5 look at the totality of what she did and the qu there was willful intent or malicious intent that there is

no precedent for prosecuting her under the statute as he examineq similar cases and outcomes, there was nothing to suggest that she could or should be prosecuted under this. now, he also made clear that many of the things or some of the things, at least, that secretary clinton has said over the course of the last year and some mont(&yf÷ were not accurate statements about her use of the private server or whether she had engaged in moving classified material back and forth with her advisor. so it was classic kind of jim comey. >> so, and, of course, donald trump tweeting who he frequently calls her crooked hillary clinton, now he's lying crooked hillary clinton. instantly this gets injected into the political discourse ad in some sense the facts kind of get lost,ñr don't they?

>> oh, the facts certainly will get lost.é@f'ú but this was an issue that was bound to be a centerpiece of donald trump's campaign, no matter how the f.b.i. came out in its judgment on what should be done in terms of prosecuting secretary clinton. their view was that they could easily describe this as a whitewash and, so, what donald trump had to say coming out of the decision-making with the f.b.i. was very much in keeping with that and he'll continue to press that. people have been arguing about the facts of this case, they will be arguing about the conclusions of the f.b.i. between now and election day without let up. >> i want to put you in the role for just a moment as an advisor to hillary clinton. what would you tell her to get out in front of this? she hasn't given a lot of press conferences. is there anything she can say or do now to stem this, or is this just going to be part of the election till the end? >> well, i think her sense is

that this is going to be an issue, no matter what she says. she's going to have to answer a lot of questions about this, there's no doubt about that. the surprising thing is that she has waited through this entire week, has nod had anything to say, clearly would like it to go away but it is not going to go away. >> presidential candidate bernie sanders met with house democrats this week. his message, the goal isn't to win elections, the goal is to transform america. it wasn't the endorsement of hillary clinton that they were hoping for. what does sanders want? bloomberg's al hunt is on the story. >> my own view right now is we have to do everything we can to defeat donald trump and elect hillary clinton. >> hunt: let's talk about some

of the issues. you were pleased with her college affordability plan that she moved closer to your position on that. what are some of the other things you would like to see her move on before the platform is finalized? >> it's not a question of her moving. it's a question of the democratic party and secretary clinton addressing the major crises we face. for 40 years the middle class in this country has been disappearing. how are we going to address that? >> are you satisfied the platform is addressing that now? >> this is the most aggressive platform in the democratic party. >> what has to be in the platform right now? >> what has to be in the platform right now, we have made real progress, i want to see very specific language to raising the minimum wage to $15. second of all, i think we need to make sure that the t.p.p., the trans-pacific partnership, which is in my view a continuation ofht disastrous te policies in the past which have

cost us to millions of decent paying jobs, have led to a race to the bottom, i think we should be very clear saying that should not come up in the lame duck session. >> senator sanders, that would be a direct slap to barack obama, the most popular figure and popular democrat in the party now. i know you're opposed to it, and opposed is not a slap, but saying i'm sorry, mr. president, you can't bring that up in a lame duck. >> i had the impression we lived in a democratic society and i had the impression the overwhelming majority of democrats in the house the senate are opposed to t.p.p. i'm a great friend of barack obama. he's a personal friend, i like him, but he's not right all the time. i'm not right all the time, you're not. >> barney frank, former member of congress, said the other day the platforms are the miss congeniality of the beauty contest, they really are irrelevant. >> i strongly disagree. they've become the blueprint for

the future. i'm not saying tomorrow every plank in the platform becomes converted into legislation but it is the basis upon which the party stands. one to have the other things i'm going to fight for is in fact to make that platform a more relevant document and, in fact, demand that the party move forward based on what is in the platform. >> so, therefore, not just about the platform but say this is the mandate for the -- >> exactly. ♪ you want to spin the bottle again ♪ ♪ you feel the same ♪ you feel the same ♪ you treat me like your boyfriend ♪ ♪ and trust me like a -- ♪ like a very best friend ♪ kiss me like your boyfriend ♪ you call meñr up ♪ say i'm your best friend ♪ you turne1 me on like your boyfriend ♪ ♪ i don't want to be a secret anymore ♪ >> teagueen and sarah quinn,

twin sisters from canada that have spent the last 17 years concreting music. they're strong and open supporters of the lgbt community. their new album is entitled "love you to death." >> because it's a family band, i think we owe each other our best, and that's meant challenging ourselves which means changing our sound. we're very invested in trying to reach a broader audience and diversify the mainstream. there's not a ton of queer women in the mainstream and we're queer and we got a lot of support from mainstream art -- artistest and thought we would run with it. >> rose: what portion of your audience is lgbt? >> it's hard to say. in the last five and ten years, we've seen the audience diversify. which is great. we love seeing all different types of people but teagueen is

right, there is something we cherish about the kids who came from that community so we paid a lot of attention to them. we hope to share our lives and develop a relationship with the audience, and the audience has an opportunity to get to know us better. i think sarah and i are very much about creating a 360-degree view of who we are. i want people to understand we've put everything into our music and i'm not up on stage to get rich and famous. i'm up on stage because i feel -- >> rose: you have something to say. >> i feel an intense purpose about being on stage and passionate about music and i also feel passionate about traveling the world and understanding people, and this is a family band, so i feel passionate about creating, you know, a business with my sister. >> we feel compelled to talk about the things important to us or what we see going on i in the world. it's more than just tweeting or saying something, we belong to a community that's active. we try to help people. we try to raise awareness about certain things. that gives us a lot of purpose.

>> rose: how close are you? i mean, is every instinct the same? is every sense of, you know exactly what she's thinking, visa versa? >> we say our relationship is like a marriage. when you have been married to someone 35 years, you can read their thoughts. i feel like our music is our child. >> rose: do you like the same thing? >> i think we have a general area we growth fit in and i think we sit on either extremes. i liked electronic music, sosara liked really obscure electronic music. i liked pop and sarah lieblgd a specific kind of pop. >> rose: are you competitive. i think we push each other. 'm the wownl that can say to teagueen, sing it this way, i don't like that word or you can do better with the lyrics. >> sarah labors with lyrics. we had a song back in your head

that came out in '88. we labored over every word. if i spent 80 hours on a song, that would be it, my opus. >> teagueen wants to complete it. my satisfaction is in the process. >> the number two spot on this week's "new york times" fiction best seller list behind stephen king belongs to "the girls." the book is a 1960s coming of age tale, one focused around the young women drawn into a dangerous cult. it is also the first novel for author emma kline, interviewed by editor kate medina of random house. >> in the "new york times" feature about you, emma, you spoke about driving past charles manson's house as a child. would you tell us about your

background and how it inspired this novel? >> i'm from california, northern california, which is still very haunted by the '60s, and i read helte helter skelter. i think that's the first thing i read about the manson family. i remember being so fascinated that the women involved, the girls were really only a few years older than i was at the time when i first read it. and that's who i was interested in, in the story. i wasn't so interested in manson. to me, the girls, there was some space left over for a novelist. >> i looked up because of the laughter and kept looking because of the girls. i noticed their hair first, long and uncombed. i think as a reader i've always been drawn to books that create their own world, and that it's sort of our very immersive and you learn to read them as you go on. the cult aspect is interesting to me but it's a way of talking about what i'm really interested in, which is the lives of girls,

and sort of that yearning and sort of how does the world treat that yearning, how do they take advantage of it in certain ways. it was an age when i'd immediately scan and rank other girls, keeping up the constant tally of how i fell short, and i saw right away that the black-haired one was the prettiest. for me, it's been really gratifying hearing that the book has been meaningful to people. what i wanted to do in writing the book was i think present a complex, you know, portrait of girls and sort of let them be more than the one-note characterizations that i think are so prevalent in the way that we talk about teenage girls, especially, i think we have very flat characterizations of them and give them so little subjectivity and agency. "the sun spikes through the trees like always. the drowsy willows, the hot wind gusting over the picnic blankets, but the familiarity of the day was disturbed by the

path the girls cut across the regular world, sleek and thoughtless as sharks breeching the water ." thanks. > here's a look at the week ahead. sunday is the men's finals at wimbledon. monday is manhattan hinge, one of two days each year where the sun sets in alignment with new york city's street grid. tuesday is major league baseball's annual all-star game. wednesday is the first day to have the just for laughs comedy festival in montreal. thursday is bastille day in france. friday is the tenth anniversary of twitter's i.p.o. saturday is the induction ceremony for the tennis hall of fame. and here's what's new for your weekend. stephen tiler has a new album

out, "we're all somebody from somewhere." ♪ make your dreams come true ♪ all i need is red white and you ♪ melissa mccarthy, leslie jones and chris hemsworth are in theaters with "ghostbusters." >> go! how! going to leave a mark! >> coldplay begins its tour at met life stadium. (singing) >> that's "charlie rose: the week" for this week. before we leave you tonight, we note the death of elie wiesel. he was 87. the holocaust survivor and nobel prize winner wrote more than 50 books over his career beginning with "night" his own account of4 life in the nazi death camps. here's elie wiesel at charlie's

table. i'm miles o'brien. thank you for joining us. >> ip not sure history has a sense of justice, but when i came to the president, i felt maybe history has a sense of humor. air force one, marine one, the president of the united states. >> rose: it is great, great, great. >> a short cut. i am there. i, who went through there, and i was nothing. almost died. and here i am with the president of the united states. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: captioning sponsored by captioning sponsored by rose communications

funding for arthur is provided by: [ female announcer ] fun for everyone makes a family strong. chuck e. cheese's proudly supports pbs kids. [ female announcer ] fun for everyone makes a family strong. and by contributions to your pbs station from: ♪ every day when you're walking down the street ♪ ♪ everybody that you meet has an original point of view ♪ (laughing) ♪ and i say hey hey! ♪ what a wonderful kind of day ♪ ♪ if we could learn to work and play ♪ ♪ and get along with each other ♪ ♪ you've got to listen to your heart, listen to the beat ♪