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>> stay tuned for the republican national convention continues now. >> good evening and welcome to -- and welcome to our special pbs "newshour"-npr coverage of the republican national convention in cleveland. i'm judy woodruff. >> i'm very loud hall, gwen ifill on second night as we will be all this week joined by npr rachel martin across the arena from us on the podium. and in the anchor booth with us syndicator mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks. also with us npr's national political correspondent mara liasson along with amy walter of the "cook political report." and down on the floor we have "newshour" correspondent lisa day gentleman car and npr

congressional report susan davis. >> the republican party formerly nominated donald trump tonight, we'll be right back to start it all off after a short break. stay with us. >> major funding for this program was provided by: >> lincolnancial-- committed to helping you take charge of your financial future. >> welcome back. we're here with our political team as the republican party

knicks cough the neck night of the 2016 presidential nominating confession. the official and ceremonial roll call going through a slight pause. but the goal in fact already have formally made donald trump the republican party's candidate for president. but there have been some division as some delegates refuse to give up the fight. the state of new york cast its vote to push donald trump over the number needed to win the nomination. and trump's son, donald trump, junior, marked that announcement. >> it is my honor to be able to throw donald trump over the top in the delegate count tonight with 89 delegates! and another -- congratulations, dad, we love you!

new york, six votes kasich. 89 votes donald j. trump. >> that happened about an hour ago. but they are still in the process of figuring out the final count. this is a musical interlude behind us. we know tonight's convention is supposed to be all about projecting a sense of party unity. we'll hear from major figures in the party. even while several opted not to come here to cleveland, we are going to hear from new jersey chris christie. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan among others. also be hearing from two of donald trump's children and we are expecting an appearance by the candidate himself. so, we've got a lot to talk about, gwen. i want to come to you first, amy, we were discussing this.

at this point the rnc republican committee wanted to have this count over with and we're now in prime time. >> now in prime time there is still some objection that i can't figure out exactly. involves the alaska delegation. one thing we do know at this point, while donald trump has gone over the top, he won the nomination. more votes have been cast, more delegate votes have been cast against his nomination. than at any point since 1976. he has -- at this count is about 476 opposed. that is an interesting milestone. remember, i think it's something we're going to keep coming back to at this campaign, it's a party that is trying to figure out it's identity. party that is trying to decide who it wants to be united around donald trump. and a party that we're going to see tonight still figuring out how to thread the needle protecting the people on the ballot and the house and the senate. while also what is going on the

top. >> woodruff: david brooks this amazes me about this convention so far they have a plan, they lay it all out exactly who is going to speak and when it's all designed to make donald trump look good then something happens which throws them off. whether it's about the debate about melania trump's speech ability to do formal roll call. >> we've been teetering on the edge of incompetence all -- since we got here from the beginning. floor fight yesterday as you said melania trump, the weird thing that happened after the trump speech when they had whole other agenda that leeched into 11:45 could still be can go on, i don't know. and so it's just professionally run convention war at least not a seamless one that is in part because they didn't let the normal people of the rnc know what was going on. didn't have the normal professional planning system, a very small group of people who were not that practiced. so, something will happen tonight. i don't know what it will be.

guarantee something will happen tonight. >> mark shields, how significant is it what amy said, this is the largest number of delegates not voting for the nominee since 1976 when gerald ford was challenged by ronald reagan? >> judy, i think it's a reflex of the climate. he's a very controversial candidate. it's a hostile take over of a party. he has taken the party and changed its position, afraid on immigration and he's done it. he's won it so there is resistance. there was support by the candidates, there are people who were convinced that he is the apocalypse waiting. others who believe he is the hope of the republican party to recount working america, to middle class america. the republicans just have a favorite slogan which you haven't met a payroll you shouldn't hold office. if you can't run a convention, pretty tough argument to make you can run a country.

they have a problem running this convention right now. >> this hostile takeover idea, mara, it seems to start just the second night. so much pessimism about how it's going. is there anything good that has happened here? >> well, yes. i mean, they had a goal, the goal was to -- they believe voters are angry and fearful enough to turn to a strong man to fix everything. and their goal is to eviscerate hillary clinton relentlessly night after night. they did it last night. from advance copies of the speeches we've gotten already they're going to do it again tonight. and if the goal of the convention to convince voters when they look at donald trump they see a president and convention should also fix his weaknesses, shore them up. tonight they have a lot of work to do. because last night was almost exclusively about hillary clinton with the exception of melania trump. tonight's theme is make america work again. so you think the line up would be chalk full of people

attesting to donald trump. instead what you're going to hear from a lot of republican elected officials, one who chose to come here, as opposed to staying away. what i'm watching for how much will they talk about donald trump and how much do they try to protect their own ranks in the house and senate. >> let's go to the floor because they are just announcing the final numbers. and they're about to have a party. >> nominee for president of the united states! >> the final number that i overheard them talking about for donald trump was 1,725 if i'm not mistaken, if someone can correct me. hundreds more for other candidates as well including 465 for ted cruz. >> number for marco rubio and john kasich got a few as well.

amy, we ought -- should take note that donald trump does have the big majority here tonight. >> it also is a reflex of just how competitive and fractured this race was from the very beginning where you had donald trump winning and winning, again, enough of the vote in a very crowded field fob able to come here. >> we are now about to go to mitch mcconnell the majority leader of the united states senate about to take -- >> is he getting booed? >> it seems to be booing his announcement. this is mitch mcconnell house speaker. >> the chair states that in compliance with rule 40b the chair has been furnished with evidence that a majority of the delegates from each of eight or more states severally support the candidate will be presented

for the nomination for vice president of the united states. the chair would like to remind delegates of the provisions of rule 48 -- 40a which provide that in part if there is only one candidate for nomination for vice president of the united states who has demonstrated the support required by paragraph b of this rule, a motion to nominate for such office by acclimation hall be in order and no calling of the roll with respect to such office shall be required. at this time the chair states that he has been furnished with evidence that there's only one candidate for nomination for the office of vice president who has demonstrated the support required under rule 40b of the rules of the convention. delegates and alternates, the chair recognizes and is pleased to introduce the honorable eric

holcomm lieutenant governor from the state of indiana, let's give him a warm welcome. >> mr. chairman, delegates and guests of the 2016 republican national convention tonight i have the high honor of placing in to nomination the name of a man i have known nor decades. and a man america is just getting to know. i already know his head, i already know where his heart is. and indiana some know mike pence as congressman. others know him as governor. but back home, most call him

mike. as you just heard i serve as mike's lieutenant governor, but more importantly, he is and karen are two of my dearest friends. together we sad side by side as our state has shown the world how common sense, conservative leadership can balance budgets while at the same time cutting taxes every single year he's been in office. and while at the same time making record investments in public education and increasing our children's test scores. in indiana, under mike pence, more hoosiers are working now than in any time in our 200-year history. and our tech sector is experiencing explosive record

growth. in indiana, mike pence doesn't just cut red tape, he eliminates it. and that is one reason why indiana is recognized as having the best business climate in the midwest and fifth best business climate in america. it is exactly that type of leadership our country is lacking and exactly the type of leadership americans will send to the white house this fall with donald trump and mike pence. these two leaders are not just prepared to win, they are prepared to govern. mike likes to say that indiana is a state that works. and tonight, america is calling on him to expand that success,

to make america work again. mr. chairman, on behalf of the great state of indiana, i proudly nominate a great man of integrity, a proven conservative, an incredible husband and father and one of my best friends, i nominate the great governor of indiana, mike pence as the republican party's 2016 candidate for vice president of the united states of america! thank you! >> that was lieutenant governor of indiana who replaced mike pence once -- if he is elected vice president. even if he isn't he can't run

for governor. got fob an election. built we also have lot going on the floor tonight. lisa desjardins is down there for us and i -- up to date how we came to this dramatic outcome, lisa. >> that's right. in essence, this nomination was always going to happen when you look at the number of delegates that donald trump won according to state rules. in the last hour it's been -- some of the state delegation say they do not think the vote count was correctly reported or counted by the republican party. if you look behind me you'll see a large group huddling under the alaska banner. the state of alaska, their delegation chairman reported how the state voted but on the podium, the republican party changed those vote counts, they say that's because of the state's own rules, state party they said -- for mike pence, by

the way. and that is the republican convention voting by acclimation to make mike pence the is theial nominee. this should be a great big moment. as i say we have delegations here scratching their heads we thought we voted one way and republican party saying, no, we voted another. utah is another example, we could get into the complicated math about all this but what's happening is alaska now seeing if they have a legal challenge here. i'm told by the state of utah they may not challenge, they are shrugging their shoulders but delegates are not happy. what should be a big moment for the party, gwen, judy. >>ly sacks it does raise some questions about whether this count is official or not. they said he's over the top. but then we go on to find out that some states are challenging what is going on. we are going to take a short break our coverage of this special -- we're going to keep

going. not going to take a break. but it does raise these questions, david, again, about what is going on tonight? >> 17 to 20 minutes into prime time still doing procedural stuff with mitch mcconnell and he gets up on podium he gets bood. that's amazing. i said something would happen i didn't think it would happen this early. >> i remember interviewing him about, i don't know, a month about -- do you think donald trump is fit to be president. he said the american people will decide. that i said, sector, what do you think? he said the american will deci decide. he said it three times in a row. it isn't the ringing endorsement that trump people are looking for. >> he's been more reticent than paul ryan has. paul ryan has endorsed donald trump. he said they are different kinds of conservatives and differ on things. but mitch mccontinental has been very, very reserved. and very critical about ooms donald trump's behavior and lack

of discipline. >> i'm just saying that's why i can't wait to hear what he says tonighta ricking endorsement or just going to be attack on hillary. >> talk about the final numbers in the end this is what -- we just saw mike pence nominated acclimation, no problem. this is what happened with the numbers for donald trump. he ended up with 1,725 delegat delegates. ted cruz had 475 delegates. john kasich of ohio, not even stepping foot in the arena, 120 delegates. went on like that. rubio got more than a hundred. that is hundreds of people of delegates sent here by home state who declined to vote for the guy who is the nominee. >> in some states you're bound on the first ballot for person that won your state. just goes to show, i think, how we forget how contentious that the primary process was.

in fact, pew research has done a look at this this week looking at how fluid the race for president was. that donald trump started this race with a very key group of supporters but it was very small. and as the race went on people came with him, fell off, so this is never -- usually in the race for the nomination it's a really straight line from this person is the front run tore person gets the nomination. this was a very windy trail. look up until we hit, i can't remember what date that was, that we were in -- we were still talking about unbinding delegates. still talking about never trump. the never trump hash tag is going to continue even after this campaign ends. >> which is exactly what the trump campaign was telling us, was not going to happen this week. they were saying that they worked it out at the rules and platform committees and other committees that met last week, they made it sound like, there may be a little bit of noise when we get to the convention,

actually in the convention look what's happened. >> they were off schedule that's the biggest thing of all. it does not appear to be an organized -- big moment was wisconsin that was the last time that donald trump lost a major battleground state. ted cruz won it ironically two of the prominent speakers tonight are ron johnson from wisconsin and embattled republican incumbent and speaker of the house, paul ryan who is basically distancing himself from donald trump while embracing him. it's a balancing act. after wisconsin it was clear sailing did he not lose again. he had a momentum coming into this convention which was really quite impressive. more impressive actually than hillary clinton's was going into the democratic national convention. >> let me ask you a question we saw what happened when mitch mcconnell walked out on stage,

not his big formal appearance tonight but if this were to happen againf he were -- he gets bood and house speaker paul ryan his first appearance got cheered, is it because he was vice president shall nominee or just maneuvered through this a little bit better? >> ha young conservative reformer. mitch mccontinental is more of the capping. donald trump was revolt against the republican. he vanquished them. they didn't want him up until the end that's why you don't see the two living former presidents here or yep bush or many, many other members of the republican establishment. >> but do you see senators, we heard from jeff sessions who endorsed donald trump last night and others. we're hearing from members of congress. >> donald trump most recent wisconsin poll is 29% favorable.

63% unfavorably. paul ryan is the only republican in that state that has favorable ratings. so, i think he's generally regarded in the party as a positive and attractive and appealing figure with ideas. as mara pointed out earlier, here he is. >> that is not him. >> he contrasts himself, the true conflicting elements here, david would argue, trains of conservatism, the five minutes to midnight. things are bad, they're going to get worse. and we heard a lot that have last night. or, the ronald reagan, jack kemp to some degree paul ryan, five minutes to sunrise conservative. if things are bad, but they're going to get better. it's going to be a better tomorrow. >> what i don't understand, mark, or david, who is winning that fight.

because it could be a true fight going on -- >> no question. >> midnight. >> did not know that. >> big last night. >> pat buchanan was john the baptist here. and he was running years ago, he was for a closed party, closed borders, closed trade, not super dynamic business, let's create a lot of wealth. one of the reasons we see the fighting here is because it hardship in the party. if trump it is away it's going to remain still a closed party. a little more socially conservative than donald trump is but going to be anti-immigration, closed free trade and a lot of people are not comfortable with. that we're hearing from them tonight as mark is speaking we have a screen with some of the seats in the arena. those seats are empty. if you look up the seats are empty. there were lobbyist, other fine folk, not showing up here there's a lot of emptiness here. >> go ahead. >> david has made a conclusion i happen to agree with him that

there is such a thing as trumpism, it's not just trump he's not a black swan event some kind of unique billionaire reality tv celebrity that we'll never see the likes of again. this party is changing. one of the things republicans have to decide is it just trump with a hostile take over one day, or sit that their party has changed. think their party has changed. >> the faces of these delegates are the faces of the trump republicans. it is mostly white, there some are younger people here, many their first convention, amy. but this is a trump reflective convention, yes, there are nontrump delegates. but these people are who folks who agree with him on immigration. on building the wall. >> on whether they believe that it's midnight or it's not midnight. in fact, there are some polling done earlier this summer that asked how angry are you about

the way things are going. you heard a lot of anger last night. among republicans they are pro trump, 52% said they were very angry. but among republicans who said they weren't for trump it was only 14% that said they were very angry. democrats were at the same number at 19%. you can see that there is a party that is here is not reflective of the entire party. i think one important other thing about the unity that we forget. donald trump, to mark's point he came out with a big momentum out of winning all those northeastern states, then indiana and polling was starting to reselect that looked like the party was coming together he got a big bounce, then what happened. he went on the attack after the judge and that has redefined him, it redefined this race and that also broke -- unity is really very fragile. >> here is my question. we talk about the party and we talk about the convention.

but who leads the horse to the water to drinks it the americans or republican americans, conservative americans are angry there for this party is responding or the party is angry and dragging mainstream republicans along. >> the base of the party is angry and they were receptive to donald trump. one thing, what amy is talking about, what donald trump did at the moment of his greatest victory when he vanquished the establishment he went on rampage against this mexican judge who turns out to be an american. and this convention is reflective of that same kind of indiscipline no. one plays a winning hand worse than donald trump. >> we are watching what is going on on the floor. lisa desjardins is there talking to some delegates in the alaska delegation, can ahead, lisa. >> i'm with the chairman of the alaska delegation, also the chairman of the alaska republican party, you also told me this is your very first

convention, verse first hour. you can tell me what happened as you believed to be your votes for president and response from the republican. >> alaska voted in march and -- 11 for trump, 12 for cruz, five for rubio that worked out at our state convention very respectfully that's how we arrived here at the delegation. that's what i reported. the rnc apparently interpreted our rules differently. but they didn't talk us to. we had no idea they were going to interpret our rules differently. >> do you think that interpretation is correct? >> our rules use very inarticulate wording. as long as you have dropped out you stick with your vote, bound delegates. no one drops out. they suspend. we don't use that word. >> in the end am i correct that

the total as counted by republican party favored mr. trump more than the total that you reported. >> no. our vote was exactly the same. but they did not apply our rules. they insisted their interpretation -- >> there were more votes for mr. trump. >> all 28 for trump. >> exactly. >> now, i want to ask you, this convention goes on, your nominees have been official ly selected what does this make you and your delegationthink about the republican party? >> we're still delighted with the republican party. we have a strong party in alas alaska. we're behind donald trump, don't want hillary clinton elected. bad for alaska. rules can be misinterpreted i think they miss interpreterred them. we got to say how we voted. that's what counts. >> thank you so much.

tuckerman with us, alaska party. >> lisa desjardins for bringing us that information on the floor. interesting thing. that feeling about rules and about what happens inside the party doesn't translate into not voting for donald trump. just want to reintroduce the circle here, mara liasson from npr, mark shields from cbs "newshour" and david brooks from the "new york times." is there danger in overinterpretting being sign that the party is fractured? >> first, this is a party that believes in state control and evolving power down tonight states except for when it hurts the story line. i do think two things are happening. people in this room are republicans. lot have spent their life in the republican party, their identity is republican, not just because they love but because they love the party. those two things can ham, they can be ambivalent, depressed by

4:00, depressed again at 7:00. but then they're still republicans. >> most of us feel that way about our jobs often. >> not us. we should mention while we're talking about a little descension, you could call it some fighting in the republican party, not so sure how serious it is at the podium. is dana white who is the president of the ultimate fighting championship. in other words, the mixed martial arts promotional company. want to listen to him for just a minute. >> let me tell you three things that i respect about this man. first, donald has great business instincts. he supports businesses of all sizes. he'll make it possible for them to grow and succeed, which is the backbone of a strong economy. second, donald is hard worker. this guy is going to get up there, he's going to roll up his sleeves. he will work with people and he will put in the time to get

things done. third, for over 15 years donald trump has been a loyal and supportive friend and i know that if i needed donald he would be there for me just like he was when i first met him. he's one of these guys that sometimes he'll pick up the phone and call me say, hey, good luck with the fights tonight. i'm going to be watching. or whatever it is that we might have willing go on. and he always reaches out to me when something has happened to my career. back in 2011 we spine add huge network television deal with fox. they did a big write up in the "new york times." donald took that paper he wrote said, congratulations, dana, i always knew you were going to do it. just for the record, donald has nothing to do with my business. we're not in business together, his interest in me and my business are personal. and in my opinion, you can really tell a person's true character when they are happy for somebody else's success,

okay? and i think that sense of loyalty and commitment will translate into how he will run this country. and let's be honest, folks, we need somebody who believes in this country, we need somebody who is proud of this country and who will fright for this country. i've been in the fight business my whole life. i know fighters. ladies and gentlemen, donald trump is a fighter and i know he will fight for this country. thank you very much. have a great evening. >> that is dana white the the ultimate fighting championship a big supporter of donald trump. mostly because he thinks he's a pretty good fighter, too. >> we must add, gwen, that trump hosted several ultimate fighting championship events at the trump taj mahal. >> of course did he. now back to the stage for

governor asa hutch in sob from arkansas. >> we don't need hillary clinton in the white house. i have been in the public arena during the administration of six presidents. from federal prosecutor under president reagan, to congress, the dea then homeland security after 9/11. i have seen america at its best. and i have seen america put to the test. there has never been a more urgent time for leadership. america's strength and boldness are desperately needed on the world stage. and a new energy is demanded at home to build our economy and to defeat terrorism. strength, boldness and new energy are not words that describe hillary clinton.

this is the same hillary we knew in arkansas and later in washington for so many years. hillary always wanted more government. and her dreams have only gotten bigger. regretfully, she offers more of the same. the same uncertain leadership in fighting terrorism. the same failed top-down approach to health care. where washington tells the states what to do. is the staple nanny state regulations that strangle the economic strength of america. if you like the last eight years, then hillary will give you double for your trouble. but good things are happening in the states. in arkansas we -- >> asa hutchinson was a member of congress, but he is doing the

job of what folks want to do which is talk about hillary clinton as much as donald trump. >> that's exactly right. >> mark shields, sorry. >> was elected to congress in 1996 was reform republican, former republican, and obviously went on to serve with the administration of president bu bush. but interesting thing first backed mike huckabee, the arkansas governor. then backed marco rubio, he said about donald trump this spring i do not see his issues are serious, words are frightening, how are you going to build a wall, how are you going to have mexico pay for it? what does this mean? let's be realistic in our discussion. we discuss these issues with the american people. not a testimonial tribute to donald trump, again hearing the indictment of hillary clinton more than anything else. >> we'll hear more from arkansas after governor hutchinson speaks we'll hear from arkansas' attorney general, her name is leslie rutledge she's not up yet. but i think bill clinton used to

be attorney general of arkansas. >> exactly right. may hear more about that. about. mara liasson, npr has been doing series of interviews with asa hutchinson. sort of following the trajectory of his opposition to donald trump and what has become acceptance. >> i bet you could find quotes for a lot of people who are speaking tonight when they had things as mark has done his homework about what they said about donald trump before. it's really hard to make the pivot to now giving a full-throated endorsement of donald trump. i think what asa hutchinson is doing right behind sus talking a lot about hillary clinton and very little about donald trump. >> isn't that true of so many elected officials this year? wean ones reluctantly come around to donald trump. is that they realize this is their choice, this is the choice. >> defeating hillary clinton is the unifying force of this convention. and opposition to the clintons

is the thread in the republican d.n.a. for the last 25 years. but that is what is holding this convention together. that's something everyone ever these people can agree on. >> which drinks me, amy, to a question about these are the two nominees, the most -- nominees with the highest negative perception on the part of the public of any, i guess since polling started. can you add to the negatives? hillary clinton is high, donald trump's were higher are they trying to get her's up to where his were? >> that would then be the two highest that we've ever seen in modern political times. but, no, i think that the goal of the convention like this should be to try to lessen his negatives not to try to pump her's up. those are pretty well settled. and i don't know that anything we've seen thus far is doing that. >> as we were just mentioning, leslie rutledge is about to speak. just elected in 2014 she is the first woman and republican elected to this position.

let's see what her role is tonight, take a listen. >> hillary clinton speaks with a new york accent. sometimes an arkansas accent. but, y'all, this is what a real arkansas woman sounds like. hillary may not know where she's from, but arkansas answer know exactly who she is. arkansasans know who i am. raised on a cattle farm. married to a row crop farmer. and i am a christian pro life gun carrying conservative woman. and i'm the first female and first republican elected attorney general of arkansas. the very same office bill clinton held when those two

launched their careers of corruption. arkansasans when they left the white house they were poor. while they made millions she's still poor in all the ways that really count. poor judgment. poor policies. and poor decisions. hillary is a lawyer. but she acts like the law doesn't apply to her. no good could have come merging her public service with her private interests. much less her private server. what would know about her candles is bad. what we don't know may be worse. why did bill speaking fees skyrocket as soon as she became secretary of state?

why did donors receive favorable treatment from the state department? deception and dishonest tee are all second nature to hillary. as my daddy likes to say, hillary will lie even when the truth would serve her better. i broke a glass ceiling. i know the importance of doing so. but historical milestone need not come at the expense of america. unlike hillary, donald trump knows that women and men are not single issue voters. we care about jobs, the economy and national security. i know this race will shape the supreme court for generations. do we want the late antonin

scalia to be replaced by liberal activist judge? donald trump will nominate conservative justices who will uphold the constitution, support the rule of law and reign in federal bureaucrats. frankly, hillary needs to go to her own house and not the white house. and she can take ruth bader ginsburg with her. my fellow americans, it's time to update your resume because donald trump is growing jobs and with a trump presidency, america will be closed to overregulation and open for business. god bless each and everyone of

you. and god bless america. thank you! >> leslie rutledge the attorney general of arkansas. and proving what she is what arkansas looks and sounds like. we're going to be hearing from her a bit more, david. >> she has good lines. she is witty, she's good presence, a little more than asa hutchinson. >> she carries a gun. >> michael mukasey was attorney general of the u.s. from november 2007 to january 2009 and he's going to pick up on the clinton bashing theme of the evening. here he is. >> -- why she should not be president of the united states. but how she treated and what she did with government secrets when she was secretary of state, and

what she said about what she did both before and after she got caught, exquisitely sums up the case begins her presidency. she sent and received secrets and top secret and beyond top secret information and e-mails on an unsecure private e-mail system. instead of on the secure government system. and she did it without authorization. she said falsely that there was no classified information. she said falsely that what she did was authorized. what else did she say? she said, these are her words, when we travel to sensitive places like russia we often received warning from the from

department security officials to leave our blackberries, laptops, anything that communicated with the outside world on the plane. with their batteries removed. to prevent foreign intelligence services from compromising them. and then she added, falsely, even in friendly settings we conducted business under secret security precautions, taking care of when and how we read secret materials and used our technology. that's from her book, which is entitled ironically "hard choices." hard choices indeed. in reality, we now know that she chose to use her private e-mail overseas in countries that were has tile to the united states and that have sophisticated hacking capability. although her system was so

remarkably primitive, the fbi couldn't figure out whether or not it had been hacked. we do know that the e-mails of people she communicated with were hacked. so i guess about her e-mails, we're soon going to hear the same infamous question that we heard about the death of four americans in den gas '. what difference at this point does it make? well, secretary clinton, it makes a big difference. the united states is the only country in the world that was founded based not on blood or land but based on a law. the constitution. hillary clinton is running for an office, the presidency, whose powers and duties are defined by that law. the most important power that that law gives the president is to be commander in chief of the

armed forces, to protect the country. that law imposes really only one substantive duty on the president. and that is, as written in the constitution, to take care that the laws be faithfully executed. that law, the constitution, specifically requires that before taking up those powers and duties the president swears to an oath. and it's the only oath set forth in the constitution to faithfully execute the office and to preserve, protect and defend the constitution. hillary clinton took a similar oath before she became secretary of state. you know what that adds up to? what that adds up to is, that hillary clinton is asking the people of this country, the people. united states, to make her the first president in history to take the constitutional oath of

office after already having violated it. the message from this convention to everyone watching these proceedings and the message to her should be loud, clear and short. no way, hillary. no way on earth. thank you very much. >> tough language from the attorney general who served at the end of the george w. bush administration saying, unlike what the justice department has said under president obama that hillary clinton did not do anything deserving of punishment, that she absolutely did. and david brooks, we just heard michael mukasey say, she would be the first president to take the oath of office who had already violated the oath.

>> that was super different from everything else. like we had ufc cage match and bernard walks on stage. like total different change. but i think we should look at this from a public choice perspective, you're an individual person coming up on stage, you are thinking about your long-term career, what are you going to do? we have seen a lot of arkansasans and tom cotton is rising star from arkansas, senator arkansas. and ben sass is rising star from nebraska they took opposing points of view. ben says, anti-trump, anti-tru anti-trump. tom cotton mostly a little pro trump, but a lot of anti-hillary. and this will be like the iraq war vote. history will judge politicians by how did they take the guiliani route, cotton route. lot of people position themselves in way that will affect them for decades. and everybody up at that podium doing exactly that. >> speaking of the podium we

have npr rachel martin down there for us now she's talking to one of the speakers from last night, pastor park burns. >> i'm down here on the podium with pastor mark burns of south carolina. he gave the benediction. thank you so much for being with us. >> so honored to be here. >> why is donald trump your candidate? >> donald trump is a man that runs on three main principles that are good in my heart. number one, declared early that he is a friend of christians. a friend in the white house when our liberties are under attack he would be champion nor either religious. number two, he understands that poverty knows no color. so, jobs are so important to this country. giving people in urban areas an opportunity to do great in their life tuned raise up values. number three, isis knows no color, terror, security, our borders need to be closed.

>> pretty public about fact that your own congregation has been ditch vieded over donald trump. why do you think he's such a polarizing figure? >> i think he is the heart of millions of voters because he has been saying privately -- he is saying publicly what millions of americans have been saying privately. he's one of the frst candidates ever to be bold enough to say the things. and now for the first time we have a champion who has been the voice of the solid majority that is getting beyond the political correctness of politics, but really dealing with issues to the heart of the mtter. >> many of the things he says strike people the wrong way, even in your own congregation. how do you make the case to -- your own friends and family that he is the candidate to vote for in november. >> two things. number one, he's the only candidate i believe that is standing up for liberties, as a

pastor you only have two options, one candidate hillary clinton who is putting muzzle on liberties. barack obama has done it for eight years. >> what happened? >> sorry for that abrupt ending. of the rachel's interview with the pastor. we've been hearing from south carolina now as we havasu davis on the floor, she's been talking to new york congressman peter king. susan. >> i am here with congressman, republican from new york state that put donald trump over tonight for nomination. congressman, you are one of the republican in congress chose to be here. why did you want to be here in cleveland? >> first of all, every republican, donald trump is the nominee, he's a new yorker, i'm a new yorker.

he's the nominee. every key issue i would be much more for him between donald trump and hillary clinton. national defense, homeland security. also support police. donald is much closer to my position than hillary clinton. >> is that how a lot of republicans are thinking of their vote. not so much pro trump vote but anti-hillary clinton vote? >> i would say, people in this hall is pro trump. there is a strong hostile vote against hillary clinton. and donald trump will have to take care of that. take advantage of that. having said that, obviously hillary clinton's weaknesses has to exploit them. in the final analysis has to show that he's qualified for president. >> donald trump wants to win new york. hillary clinton is from new yo new york. how competitive can new york be in a general election? >> it comes down to real

new yorkers, donald trump. hillary still from illinois or arkansas or somewhere. but as far as -- i think new york can be in play. kidding ourselves, it can be tough. but having said that i've seen polling over 50%. upstate new york, democrats are very unpopular there. on long island polls i've seen shown donald trump beating barack obama. every democratic city. if trump puts together the bloomberg, guiliani coalition, it can be in play. >> we hear from peter king, new york could be put in play by donald trump. thank you for talking. have fun tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you, sue, for giving us the perfect question that we'll bring to the table. that was sue davis from npr, i'm here with mara liasson from npr, amy walter from the "cook political report," mark shields, beloved mark shields and david brooks from the "new york times." let me just say we just heard

what peter king said optimistically about being able to get new yorker. we've heard californians say the same thing about donald trump. what's the consensus? >> probably not. at least in new york, upstate new york fits into the trump theory of the rust belt and midwest and that that is the pathf he has one to go to the white house. white collar, blue collar key flip the blue states red. that's their theory. >> not that he wouldn't dearly love to win his home state. >> of course. but the idea is to do that, you can't -- aren't enough blue collar white men to do that. you have to get -- if you're going to get 70% of the white vote which is what you have to win you need white women. and this convention i thought was supposed to help him do that. >> so, amy, there are some places where donald trump could

pull off -- >> here are the places that barack obma carried that i think donald trump will do better in and could win. states that even obama did well in like iowa where you could argue that donald trump is going to be do much better there. much whiter state than any of the other battleground states. it's also state that hillary clinton has not traditionally done very well in. i think what we're going to see, the map is probably going to look pretty much the same in terms of which the competitive states are, the battleground states. maybe arizona gets put in the mix that have gone republican over and over again. but in terms. state that donald trump flips, that obama carried, i think where i would look for states that are overwhelmingly white have very populous, where that message really resonates. where you don't have a big city with suburbs surrounding it. new hampshire, iowa, those are the kinds of places.

but that's seven electoral votes. no, nine electoral votes. that's where he's not going to do as well as mitt romney or john mccain, virginia, north carolina, florida, they have a lot of electoral votes. >> david, where is the path? maybe it's too soon to get there let's assume there's path coming out of this convention. >> there's obvious path. only path he has which is to win pennsylvania it's got lot of big cities. win ohio, to win wisconsin, michigan, i guess. >> you have to do all that. >> he'd have to do all that the hard way. it's tough road to hoe i keep going back to something amy referred to, if you are at the convention thinking, what is my goal here. is it to make people who hate hillary hate her really, really a lot? or is it, well, maybe there's another donald trump out there that hasn't been seen yet. and to me, option b is just a lot better. but that's not the option we've seen so far. >> we have not seen it so far

quickly before we leave this, mark, when was the last time nominee really did upset the traditional apple cart of states for his -- >> obama expanded the election. he did. i would say that ohio, michigan, hillary clinton is weaker in michigan than traditional democrats. also add, judy, he is a certain -- not unreputable, but saying donald trump is not considered in polite company some places fob acceptable. and i think donald trump has shown in the past, could very well in a general election show what some called voting strength. that is, ronald reagan ran 16 points higher on election day than had run in the last poll when he was running for governor of california. he ran stronger. >> i know. we have to pick this up conversation on other side

because we have take a moment to acknowledge our special pbs "newshour" and npr. stay with us. >> ? is rachel martin on the podium. it is day two of the republican national convention here in cleveland. yesterday the theme was make america safe again. tonight, make america work again. but the opening of the evening began in a different way. we heard from the president of the ultimate fighting championship, dana white. we have known donald trump for a long time, obviously that is a pop culture chord. his message, grim is a fighter, he will fight for you. really when you look at this itinerary tonight, this agenda you're going to hear from a lot of establishment republicans. house speaker paul ryan, chris christie, governor of huge, their goal to make donald trump unify the party.

stay with us. this is special coverage from pbs "newshour" and npr news. >> woodruff: if you are just joining us this is live coverage from the republican national convention. i'm judy woodruff. >> ifill: i'm gwen ifill. what happens in polite company, about donald trump. this is in an area with polite company, mara liasson. >> the hidden vote for donald trump.

you're not going to tell a pollster you're going to vote for him but you will in the voting booth. this is the opposite of tom bradley vote, he was the first african american who wanted to become governor of california. if that was true, the polls should have estimated his standing throughout and they didn't. >> independents, blue collar democrats, pennsylvania, ohio, i just think there is a donald trump and i think there is a resistance. remember this: hillary clinton is the second most unpopular presidential nominee in the history of modern polling. donald trump is the first most unpopular. this is a race that is not clearly defined by any means. i think it is still very much in front of us. >> woodruff: amy is there a

way to get at what they are saying? >> who they are like? >> when you have the majority of americans saying they are casting their vote against someone rather than for them, you have a pretty volatile situation there. you have pretty well-known people. this is about what's happened this this campaign and in previous years, the soon to be nominee wasn't particularly well-known and here is the chance to show them to the nation. they get the first opportunity to really tell america their story. everybody knows hillary clinton, they've known her for 25 years and we sure know a lot about donald trump. and the point everybody has been making around this table, we would be hoping that we would see a different point about donald trump. >> woodruff: there are millions of people watching this that haven't paid any attention now, even with the obsessive and overwhelming new coverage donald

trump has dpolten so far. making america work, flush being out the agenda, making america great again. >> many hours to go yet. >> ifill: earlier today, judy and i both sat down with mississippi governor haley bar barbour. thank you for this special program. >> nice to see you gwen. >> you have been saying for some time that these are the two most negatively perceived presidential nominees for a long time and you have seen in the last few days that we are going to see a lot of good things about donald trump that we've not seen before. what are we learning that's positive about donald trump so far in this convention? >> last night, the program was almost entirely about national security and terrorism, and not so much about him. i think tonight, a lot about the

economy and there will be a lot of personal talk from people who have worked for him, worked with him and national politicians and that sort of stuff talk about the economic issues. but when you look at this, i have to just say, it's not two most negatively perceived in recent years, it's the two most negatively perceived politician nominees in the history of polling. we've never had this before. and the other thing in polling that is just unbelievable to me that i never could have imagined, more than half the people after the fbi announced they were not going to recommend her indictment, more than half the people in every poll said they thought she should be indicted, indicted! imagine, i've known you a long time. i've never imagined anything like that. >> ifill: governor barbour you have been around the polls a

couple of of times, the governor of mississippi, you didn't endorse donald trump until may. is this convention about getting donald trump elected or defeating hillary clinton? >> i think for most people in the united states, this is a binary choice. most people have a negative opinion of -- >> woodruff: we're sorry to interrupt our interview with governor barbour. we have a special video from donald trump. >> what we did getting the party's nomination, it is something i'll never ever forget. a little over one year ago, i announced my candidacy for president and with your vote today this stage of the presidential process has come to a close. together we've achieved historic

results, with the largest vote total in the history of the republican party. this is a movement but we have to go all the way. i'm so proud to be your noinee for president of the united states, i look forward to sharing my thoughts with you on thursday night on how we build a brighter and more hopeful future for all americans. it's an honor to run on a ticket with governor mike pence who is an incredible man and who will make a great, great vice president. i'll be with him in cleveland tomorrow night and we'll be together again on thursday night. and by the way, we are going to win the state of ohio and also, of course, we are going to win the presidency and bring real change and leadership back to washington!

this is going to be a leadership, by the way, that puts the american people first. we're going to bring back our jobs. we're going to rebuild our depleted military and take care of our great veterans. we're going to have strong borders. we're going to get rid of i.s.i.s. and we're going to restore law and order. we have to restore, and quickly, law and order among many, and just so many other things. and i'll be discussing with that, thursday night, we'll be talking all about it. but together, most importantly, we are going to make america great again! have a fantastic evening. i'll see you tomorrow night. i'll see you on thursday night. and we will win in november! thank you. (cheering and applause) >> to put it mild.

>> ifill: that donald trump from the 26th floor of trump tower in new york. he says he's going to be here every night, a different way to run a convention, but he's a different kind of candidate. mitch mcconnell, coming out to give his speech. >> i've been around a while and i've been around the clintons more than anybody should ever have to be. a couple of years ago, bill and hillary camped out in my state telling anybody who would listen why they should vote against me. tonight i'm here to return the favor. (cheering and applause) >> i'm a patient man. as a young child in the south i was struck with polio and forced to stay off my feet for two years. that experience taught me an abiding gratitude for my parents. and it also taught me how to wait. which comes in handy when you're the leader of the u.s. senate.

more than anything, though, my job has taught me the value of trust. how to distinguish between people who are in this to serve others, and people who are in it for themselves. i'm here to tell you: hillary clinton will say anything, do anything and be anything to get elected president. and we cannot allow it! the american people are tired of hearing about the bounty of government while the cost of caring for a family or meeting daily expenses grows out of reach. over the past few years, they've seen government abuse their office and get rewarded for it. they've seen the middle class actually shrink. and the midst of this, they've raised a very simple complaint. who's looking out for us? it's not hillary. i've had my differences with barack obama but i'll give him

credit for this. at least he was up front about moving america to the far left. to the far heft. not hillary. she lied about her e-mails. she lied about her server. she lied about benghazi. she even lied about sniper fire. why, even she lied about why her parents named her hillary. so i ask you a simple question: at a moment when so many feel betrayed by their government, why in the world would democrats put forward such a candidate? hillary has changed her positions on so many times it's impossible to tell where the conviction ends, and the ambition begins. in 2010, she set iran could enrich uranium, in 2015, she

said, then she used to be against sanctuary cities, then she said she was for them. we're not sure where she is. not since bad dead bob, has there been such a tortured relationship with the truth. fortunately, there's a clear choice before us and it's not hillary. you know what the next four years will look like with hillary and you know if hillary is president, we'll continue the scandals that follow the clintons like flies. two years ago, the voters delivered a clear verdict by sending a freshman class of rock star republicans to the senate and delivering a majority i promised to make you proud of. we'd never hesitate to confront the president but also tackling urgent problems head on and we delivered on that promise. we put obamacare repeal on the president's desk. he vetoed it.

donald trump would sign it! we passed a bill to finally build the keystone pipeline, obama vetoed it, donald trump would sign it. we passed a bill to ban planned parenthood, obama vetoed it, donald trump would sign it. on that sad day when we lost justice schee, scalia, i made r pledge that another clinton would not fill this seat. that honor would go to donald trump next year. with donald trump in the white house senate republicans will build on the work we've done and pass more bills than we have in years. we've already passed more major reform in a decade and ended common core. social security, we passed a

crucial cyber security bill, we passed sanctions on north korea, we passed the first major highway bill in more than a decade. we passed a bill to combat the scourge of hoousk trafficking, and a bill aimed at confronting the hear heartbreaking explosiof heroin and opioid abuse. so my friends keep the senate in republican hands and we'll continue this work and the remarkable public servants that i'm proud to lead in the senate will not let you down. but put hillary clinton in the white house and i promise you this: she will double down on the cynical approach that senate democrats seem to revel in these days. here's what i mean. as we sit here tonight, a terrifying mosquito-borne illness threatens expectant mothers and their babies along our southern coast. just last week, clinton democrats in the senate blocked

a bill aimed at eradicating that virus before it can spread. they blocked a defense spending bill that would support the brave men and women who right now are defending us overseas. what in the world do these people think public service is about? i don't know but i know this: if hillary clinton is our president nothing will change. so tonight, i ask you to continue, let us continue our work. let us put justices on the supreme court who cherish our constitution! (cheering and applause) >> let's keep the senate. and let's elect a president and a vice president who really believe america is exceptional! (cheering and applause) >> thank you, my friends, and god bless america! (cheering and applause) >> woodruff: the senate

majority leader mitch mcconnell didn't get a rousing welcome, but they listen to what he had to say. he said hillary clinton lied about her e-mails, her server and benghazi and so it went. rachel marnlt is down there, rachel are republicans down at the podium? >> as you mentioned he was booed when he came out onto the stage, as he was speaking delegates were walking around, pretty much just ignoring him until he mentioned the name donald trump. that got an applause line but you know, he really pivoted in his speech and made it far less about donald trump than he tried make it about democrats and really tried to raise the stakes by mentioning the supreme court nomination that could be in

play, and this is a less arous arousing endorsement for donald trump. >> ifill: the when we saw the little brief of donald trump, were people paying more enthusiastic attention when i was on the screen? >> oh, yes, whenever he's on the stage or on the screen he commands attention. no matter it was a video message, people were transfixed. he's going to be around, kind of breaking protocol by popping up now and then and they have intimated that they wanted to keep people a little bit on their toes that there are surprises in store so i think we're probably going to see a little bit more of him in different forms throughout the rest of the convention. >> woodruff: rachel, one final question, is this delegate vote

count over or not? is that the end of it do we know? >> who knows judy. as we saw earlier, alaska demanded a recount. they said we don't like how you are interpreting our state rules. we didn't pass our delegate votes for donald trump yet the rnc has kind of implemented this rule, and they ended up casting those votes for donald trump. alaska's not happy about it. there are other states who are kind of thinking about whether or not they want to make a bigger fuss over this. in the end, donald trump is going to be -- he is the gop nominee. but it does say something about the tension right now between the rnc and the state. and that never-trump movement which is, you know it's been dead many times but there are still a lot of people in the hall who are not pleased about how this turned out. >> ifill: npr's rant, thank

you very much. up here in the sky booth, our luxurious digs. the lovely and stylish mark shields, every time i introduce you i come up with something new. and david brooks. every time we hear from him we hear we need to hold on to congress. that doesn't get big applause david brooks, why is that? >> people are not exactly happy with congress whether republicans or democrats. second congress for what? the people up here who are speaking are inhibited because they can't really lay out a projected vision for future because a lot of them disagree with a lot of donald trump's vision for the future. so clinton's what they've got. >> woodruff: house speaker paul ryan,.

>> let me thank all the people of the beautiful city for looking after us this week. (applause) >> and above all, above all, i want to thank the men and women who are here from loarmts, for your service! (cheering and applause) >> you know -- from law enforcement for your service. you know standing up here again, it all has kind of a familiar feel. students of tri trivia will recl that last time around i was your nominee for president. it was a great honor, even though things didn't work out quite according to the plan. lea i'm a positive guy. i found some other things to keep me busy. i like to look at this way.

the next time there is a state of the union address, i don't know where joe biden or barack obama are going to be. but i'll be right to the right of the rostrum with vice president mike pence and president donald trump! (cheering and applause) >> democracy is a series of choices. we republicans have made our choice. have we had our arguments this year? sure, we have. you know what i call those? signs of life. signs of a party that's not just going through the motions. not just mounting, mouthing new words for the same old stuff.

meanwhile, what choice has the other party made in this incredible year filled with so many surprises. here we are at the time when men and women of both parties so clearly so undeniably want a different direction from america. a clean break from a failed system. and what does the democratic establishment offer? what is their idea of a clean break? they are offering a third obama term brought to you by another clinton. and you're supposed to be excited about that. for a country so ready for change, it feels like we've been cleared for takeoff and then somebody announced we're all going back to the gate. it's like we've been on hold forever. waiting and waiting, to finally talk to a real person. and somehow we've been sent back to the main menu.

watch the democratic party convention next week. that four-day infomercial of political moralizing, and let it be a reminder of all that is at stake in this election. you can get through four days of it with a little help from the mute button. but four more years of it? not a chance. not a chance. look, the obama years are almost over. the clinton years are way over! 2016 is the year america moves on. (cheering and applause) >> from now to november, we will hear how many different ways progressive elitists will find to talk down to rest of america. to tell that you the obama years have been good for you, you should be grateful and now it's

hillary's turn. the problem is really simple. the problem here is very simple. there is a reason people in our country are disappointed and restless. if opportunity seems like it's been slipping away, that's because it has. and liberal, progressive ideas have done exactly nothing to help. wages never seem to go up. the whole economy feels stuck, and millions of americans, millions of americans, middle class security is just a memory. progressives like to talk, like our president like to talk forever about poverty in america. and if high-sounding talk did any good, we'd have overcome those deep problems long ago. this explains why, under the most liberal president we have had so far, poverty in america is worse, especially for our

fellow citizens who were promised better and who need it most. the result is a record of discarded promises. empty gestures. phony straw man arguments, reforms put off forever. the ones that gave us obamacare, constitutional promises brushed off as nothing. all the while, dangers in the world down played even as the threats go over and come closer. it's the last chapter of an old story. progressives deliver everything except progress. (cheering and applause) >> yet we know better than most. we know better than to think that republicans can win only on the failures of democrats. it still comes down to a contest

of ideas which is really good news, ladies and gentlemen. because when it's about ideas, the advantage goes to us. against their dreary backdrop of arrogant bureaucracy, pointless mandates, reckless borrowing, everything that progressives have in store for us, the republican party stands as the great enduring alternative party. we believe in making government, as ronald reagan said, not the distributor of gifts and privilege, but once again, the protector of our liberties. (chng and applause) >> let the other party go on, make its case for more government control over every aspect of our lives. more taxes to pay. more debt to carry. more rules to follow. more judges who just make it up as they go along. we, in this party, we are committed to a federal government that acts again as a

seservant. accountable to the people, following the constitution, not venturing one inch beyond the consent of the governed. we, we in this party, offer a better way for our country. based on fundamentals that go back to the founding generation. we believe in a free society. where aspiration and effort can make the difference in every life. where your starting point is not your destiny. and where your first chance is not your only chance. we offer a better way for america, with ideas that actually work. a reform tax code that rewards free enterprise instead of just enterprising lobbyists. a reformed health care system that operates by free choice instead of by force and doesn't leave you answering the cold cls

bureaucrats, and giving veterans the care that they earned! and we offer a better way for dealing with persistent poverty in this country. a way that shows poor americans the world beyond liberal warehousing and check-writing. into the life everyone can find with opportunity and independence. the happiness of using your gifts, and the zig tonight of having a job. and you know what? none of this will happen under hillary clinton! only with donald trump and mike pence do we have a chance at a better way. (cheering and applause)

>> and last: last point. let the other party go on and on from its constant dividing-up of people. always playing one group against the other, as if group identity were everything. in america, aren't we all supposed to be in see beyond class, see beyond ethnicity, these areas that lock us into ogroups? real social progress is always a widening of the circle of concern and protection. it's respect and empathy overtaking blindness and indifference. it's understanding that by the true measure, we are all neighbors and countrymen, called to each one of us, to know what is right, and kind, and just. and to go and do likewise. everyone, everyone is equal.

everyone has a place. no one is written off. because there is worth and goodness in every life. straight from the declaration of independence, that is the republican ideal. and if we won't defend it, who will? (cheering and applause) >> so much, so much that you and i care about. so many things that we stand for in the balance, in this coming election. whatever we lack going into this campaign we should not lack for motivation. in the plainest terms i know, it is all on the line. so let's act that way. let's act that way. let's use the edge we have. we could distill what we earned in the trust of the votes, this year the dramatic turns could end in the finest possible way when america elects a

conservative governing majority. we can do this! we can earn that mandate if we don't hold anything back, if we never lose sight of the stakes. if we never lose sight of what's on the table. our candidates will be giving their all, they'll be giving their utmost and every one of us has got to go and do the same. so what do you say? what do you say? what do you say that we unify this party. what do you say we unify this party at the crucial moment when unity is everything. let's take our fight to our opponents with better ideas! lets get on the offensive and let's stay there. let's compete in every part of america and turn on the bulls like every vote matters because it will. fellow republicans, what we have begun here, let's see this thing through. let's win this thing. let's show america our best and nothing else! thank you, thank you, and god

bless! >> ifill: speaker of the house, paul ryan, getting to talk about unity and getting them on their feet and pay attention for probably the first time tonight. we have npr sue davis, her day job she covers congress and perhaps she'll give us a little background how paul ryan just four years ago he pointed out, was vice presidential candidate for president, got the attention of the crowd tonight. >> they represent the two wings of the republican party. paul ryan has taken issue with many of the statements of issue taken in the course of the campaign. most likely his call against muslims entering the country. paul ryan on capitol hill.

he did talk about hillary clinton and like senate majority leader mitch mcconnell before him, at least shaped his remarks around being against hillary clinton, against progressivism, against liberalism and the party needs to unite. >> woodruff: he was almost sounding like a cheerleader, he was saying we can do this, we can be a cheerlear, we can turn this around. it was a pretty remarkable speech. >> paul ryan understands, states like ohio and florida, republicans don't have a chance at the white house. paul ryan said before he took the speakership, he was trying to grow attendance of the republican party. he wants more african americans, more women, he wants to speak to them and whether or not he can get them into the fold, paul ryan has believed that and i think he's trying to cover a

more expansive message for par party. >> we have sue davis fighting behind kevin mccarthy. we'll give a couple of moments to governor mccarthy. >> the government iran and the rise of i.s.i.s. republicans have a better way. we have a plan to fix it. and our republican agenda our enemies will fear us. our taxes will be fairer. people will be able to afford the health care they want. the people's voice will be heard. government will help those who truly need it, and it will allow everyone to rise. so to those that are left behind by economic forces out of your control, we hear you.

to those who are attacked for your beliefs, we hear you. to a nation that sees chaos, spreading across america and across that globe, we hear you. and for our men and women in uniform, we hear you! now, as a matter of principle, you will have the very best america has to offer. those who have fought in the front appliance should never ave to wait in line. there is a better way. but this republican agenda can only be realized if we disrupt the status quo.

and let's admit: hillary clinton is the definition of status quo. we need a leader who shapes the future. the democrats won't ring the future because they are stuck in the past. when innovation has brought more power to the people, democrats want more power for washington. when innovation advances technology, hillary clinton uses it to put american secrets at risk. this is thought the past for our country. and these difficult times, i remember the words of president ronald reagan, when he described america as that shining city upon the hill. together, electing a republican congress, donald trump, mike pens, we capence, we can make ty

city on the hill right again. god bless you and god bless america. >> ifill: listening to congressman kevin mccarthy in california, in the house leadership. i guess this is a chance for just a moment here to look at -- we've just heard from three congressional leaders in a row. one of them got better response than other one did, speaker paul ryan. but there was boo for mitch mcconnell. kevin mccarthy's speech was short. >> ifill: we have governor chris christie coming on stage now. >> woodruff: we want to hear what he has to say. he is one of the people donald trump defeated for this election. >> good evening, i'm here tonight not only as the governor of new jersey but also as donald trump's friend for last 14 yea

years. we are about to be led by not only a strong leader, but by a caring, genuine, and decent person. i'm proud to say that the voice of the people of our nation is being heard in this hall tonight, and those voices want donald trump to be the next president of the united states! but everybody, this election is not just about donald trump. no. it's also about his democratic opponent, hillary rodham clinton. [ boos ] >> now in the past two weeks we've seen the justice department refuse to prosecute her. over the past few years we've seen this administration refuse to hold her accountable for her dismal record as secretary of state. so let's do something fun

tonight. tonight as a former federal prosecutor, i welcome the opportunity to hold hillary rodham clinton accountable for her performance and her character! (cheering and applause) >> lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! >> all right, all right, we're getting there! give me ofew more minutes, we'l, we'll get there. here's what we're going to do. we're going to present the facts to you. you tonight sitting as a jury of her peers both in this hall and in your living rooms, around our

nation. you see: since the justice department refuses to allow you to render a verdict, i'm going to present the case now on the facts against hillary rodham clinton. now, she was america's chief diplomat. so let's look around the world at the violence and the danger today in every region that has been inspected by her flawed judgment. but i'm going to be specific so that you can render your verdict tonight on the basis of the facts. let's go to north african. shafrica.she was the chief engif the overthrow of gadhafi in

libya. there is death and violence on the streets and i.s.i.s. is now dominatings that country. so can i ask you this: hillary clinton has a failure for ruining libya and creating a nest for terrorist activities by i.s.i.s. answer me now, is she guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> in nigeria, hillary clinton amazingly fought for two years to keep an al qaeda affiliate off of the terrorist watch-list. what happens because of this reckless action by the candidate who is the self-proclaimed champion of women all around the world? these al qaeda terrorists abducted hundreds of innocent women two years ago. these school girls are still missing today. and what was the solution from the obama-clinton team? a hashtag campaign.

so now let's figure it out. let's decide, hillary clinton as an apologist for an al qaeda affiliate in nigeria, resulting in the capture of innocent young women, is she guilty or not guilty? >> guilty! >> see, she fights for wrong people. she never fights for us. she doesn't get the real threats that america faces. so now let's go to china. in china, hillary clinton praised the chinese government for buying our debt to finance barack obama's bloated stimulus plan. she was so desperate for chinese cash, she promised to oppose the buy american provision in the stimulus bill in exchange for the cash to finance a huge expansion of federal government spending. so: hillary clinton, putting big government spending financed by the chinese ahead of

good-paying jobs for middle class americans, is she guilty or not guilty? >> guilty! >> let's go to syria. in syria, packag imagine this: e this: she called president assad a reformer. she called assad a different kind of leader. who's now with 400,000 dead, think about that. 400,000. dead, at the hands of the man that hillary defended. so we must ask this question, hillary clinton as an awful judge of the character of a dictator and butcher in the middle east, is she guilty or not guilty? >> guilty! >> next, next in iran, she launched the negotiations that

brought about the worst nuclear deal in history. let me be clear. america, and the world, are measurably less safe and less respected because of the iran deal that hillary helped cut, period. after she launched those negotiations she became the biggest cheerleader for this agreement in the end. it is a deal that will lead to a nuclear iran and israel that will be less safe and secure and a much more dangerous middle east. so let's ask it. hillary clinton as an inept negotiator in the worst arms deal in american history is she guilty or not guilty? >> guilty! >> next. [ crowd chanting ]

>> lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! >> next, oh believe me we're not done yet. the indictment is hardly complete. next let's go to russia. she went to the kremlin, on her very first visit, and gave them that stupid symbolic re-set button. you know what i think that button should have read? it should have read delete. you know she's very good at that, by the way! and it should have read delete because she deleted in four years the safety and security it took us to build in 40 years. the next year, she said our goal, america's goal, was to strengthen russia.

strengthenan adversaran adversaa dictator. what an extraordinary sense of a lack of judgment. once again we need to ask as the flawed supporter of a dictator, to allow russia in the middle east, is hillary clinton guilty or not guilty? >> guilty! >> now, we go to cuba. hillary clinton supported concessions to the castro brothers and got almost nothing in return, for ending the embargo. she supported a deal that didn't even require this murderous regime to return a cop killer, joann chezemard. i know this personally, joann chezemard killed a new jersey

policeman and lives in cuba to this very day. how can someone reward a domestic terrorist with continued safety and at the same time, betray the family of a fallen police officer waiting for decades for justice for his murder. so let's ask the question: hillary clinton, as a coddler of the brutal castro brothers and betrayer of the family of fallen state trooper warren foster and his family, is she guilty or not guilty? >> guilty! >> lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! >> now finally, finally, here at home in one of her first decisions as secretary of state, she set up a private e-mail

server in her basement in violation of our national security. let's face the facts. hillary clinton cared more about protecting her own secrets than she cared about protecting america's secrets. and then: she lied about it. over and over and over again. she said, there was no marked classified information on her server. the fbi director said, that's untrue. she said that she did not e-mail any classified information. the fbi director says: that's untrue. she said all work related e-mails were sent back to the state department. the fbi director said, that's not true. so as to hillary clinton, the charge of putting herself ahead of america, guilty or not guilty? >> guilty!

>> lock her up, lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! >> i got another question for you. i got another question for you. as to hillary clinton, lying to th american people about her selfish, awful judgment, in making our secrets vulnerable, what's your verdict? guilty or not guilty? >> guilty! >> now, time, time after time after time, the facts, and just the facts, lead you to the same verdict. both around the world and here at home. in libya and nigeria, guilty. in china and syria? >> guilty! >> in iran and russia and cuba? >> guilty! >> and here at home for risking

america's secrets to keep her own and lying to cover it all up? >> guilty! >> her focus group tested person personna, sham, meant to obscure the facts and lead you to vote for her. we cannot promote someone to commander in chief someone would who's played the world a more violent and dangerous place, we can't make the chief law enforcement officers of the united states someone who has risked america's secrets and lied to the american people about it day after day after day. here it is everybody. we didn't disqualify hillary clinton to be president of the united states, the facts of her life and career disqualify her. (cheering and applause)

>> see, i could tell that everybody in this hall greez ags with this. but i want to take the last moments here to talk to you in your homes in your living rooms, sitting at home tonight. you are the ones who will decide the selection. we have an alternative. we have a man who is unafraid.we have a man who wants to lead us. we have a whan who understands the frustrations and the aspirations of our fellow citizens. we have a man who judges people based on their performance, regardless of your gender, your race, your ethnic or religious background. i implore you. we do not need to settle for less in this election. we cannot reward incompetence and deceit. we need to demand more than hillary clinton offers for america. because see, we know exactly what four years of hillary clinton will bring. all the failure to the obama years but with less charm and

more lies. (cheering and applause) >> tonight, those of us in this hall and the people at home, it is our obligation to stop hillary clinton now, and never let her get within ten miles of the white house again! (cheering and applause) >> it is time to come together, and make sure that donald trump is the next president of the united states! (cheering and applause) >> i am proud to be part of this team. now let's go out and win this thing together. let's go get 'em! good night! (cheering and applause) >> woodruff: chris christie, the governor of new jersey bringing this crowd to its feet. to cheer donald trump but to

lock hillary clinton in no uncertain terms, a course of guilty guilty guilty, after every issue heard, raised by chris christie. now this is one of donald trump's -- >> i was going to say not about jobs. >> tiffany trump. >> it's so amazing to be with you tonight and say a few words about my father and your nominee for president. please excuse me if i'm a little nervous. when i graduated college a couple of months ago i never expected to be here tonight addressing the nation. i've given a few speeches in front of classrooms of students but never in an arena with more than 10 million people watching! but like my father, i never back down from challenges. so here i am. a little new to the convention

scene but incredibly honored and very confident in the good man that america's coming to know. (cheering and applause) >> it's often said that with enough effort and determination, you can do whatever you put your mind to. but, saying those words and living them are a different thing. and my father has lived them. (applause) >> it's one of his defining qualities and i've seen it in action all of my life. whatever he does, he gives his all and does it well. his desire for excellence is contagious. he possesses a unique gift for bringing that trait out in others. starting with those closest to him. he's always helped me be the best version of myself, by encouragement and by example, he motivates me to work my hardest, and to always stay true to who i

am and what i believe. that's what he does. he draws out the talent and drive in people, so that they can achieve their pull potential. that's a great quality to have in a father. and better yet: in the president of the united states. (cheering and applause) >> as a recent college graduate, many of my accomplishments are still to come. but my dad takes such pride in all that i've done so far. no matter how big or how small. i still keep all of my report cards. some dating back to kindergarten. because i like to look back and see the sweet notes he wrote on each and every one of them. contrary to what you might expect from someone who places the emphasis on results, my dad's comments referred often to the sentiments expressed by my teachers about how i acted in and out of the classroom. just not even focusing on the letter grades themselves. donald trump has never done

anything half-way. least of all as a parent. my father always asks about my family in georgia, to make sure that they are healthy and safe. my uncle served in vietnam and my 97-year-old great grandfather served in world war ii. (applause) >> i believe the measure of a person is revealed in their darkest times. for me, the measure of a parent is based on how they support and bolster you when you're down. a few years ago, someone very dear to me passed away. and the first call i got, as i knew i would, came from my father. without his unwavering support and care for me during such a challenging time i don't know how i would have made it through. as far too many know, it is the small, loving acts that help an enormous amount in times of grief. my father is good with advice.

as you might guess. but he keeps it short. and the take away is usually the same. to help us find our own way and our own gifts. if you do what you love, hold nothing back, and never let fear of failure get in the way, then you pretty much figured out the trump formula. (applause) >> my dad is a natural-born encourager. the last person who will ever tell you to lower your sights or give up your dreams. i always look forward to introducing him to my friends. especially the ones with preconceived notions. because they meet a man with natural charm and no facade. in person, my father is so friendly, so considerate, so friendly, and so real. my friends walk away with a glimpse of all that he is and all that he means to me of the

strong, protective, kind, endearing man i am so proud to call my father. (cheering and applause) >> i never pictured myself saying all of this to a packed arena but i'm grateful and fortunate for the chance. i have dplierd my father all of my -- admired my father all of my life and i love him with all of my heart. god bless you, and thank you. (cheering and applause) >> please join me in welcoming carey wifl ard general manager -- >> that was tiffany trump, donald trump's daughter from his marriage to marla maples, who is in the arena tonight. singing her father's praises really warmly, david brooks last

night you were sitting here and said that was a missed opportunity for melania trump. >> this was much better just to say, i love him." it is sweet, and a moment between a daughter and her dad. it was totally different than chris christie a few seconds before. >> ron elving. >> chris christie gave the most unvarnished description of a presidential candidate than we've ever seen. he had hoped to be on the ticket with donald trump. >> this was the prosecutor's role he played tonight. >> right now we're going to take a break. this is special pbs newshour and npr coverage of the republican national convention in cleveland. stay with us.

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>> hari sreenivasan with update on the days news. white house released open letter from president obama to law enforce. officers pledging support. we have your backs. in recent days, eight officers have been gunned down in dallas and baton rouge. the islamic state claimed responsibility today for last night's acts and knife attack on train in southern germany. five people were wounded, 17-year-old attacker an afghan asylum seeker was shot dead. found a hand painted isis flag in his room said he appeared to be self radicalized. it's reported tonight that fox news chair and ceo roger ailles will be forced out amid allegations of sexual harass. the "new york times" says,

buyout talks are in advanced stages. former fox anchor gretchen carson has sued ailles accusing him of making advancement then firing her when she complained. a claim he denies. >> just joining thus is live coverage of the republican national convention. from npr and pbs "newshour." >> we are all here, we've been listening to donald trump's daughter and i guess during this little interlude we heard from the woman who runs the trump winery, successful business on this night when here supposed to be hearing about jobs. and the economy. >> we have not heard this is make america work again. we've heard very little about a jobs plan or economic plan or an agenda in way way shape or form that would work on the economy.

we've heard a lot of bashing of hillary clinton. more chants of lock her up than we heard about economic plans. >> mark shields, how about that chris christie? >> well, chris christie, just quick word about tiffany trump. i thought that worked. she's just recent college graduate. we were curious to find out about donald trump and she did say he always helps me to be the best person in myself, spoke of loving. melania trump last night referred to her husband as donald j. trump. it wasn't lamby pie or anything, i thought this was the most personal endorsement. in contrast to chris christie been a friend for 14 years. then six minutes on donald trump then 48 paragraphs excoriating hillary clinton. maybe six senators to 42. >> we have heard from one of the

trump children. we are told another trump child, that is oldest donald trump, junior, will come to the stage. maybe they aren't. the music sounds like it's continuing. we may not hear from him. but, david, the -- he is. we'll stop talking. >> donald trump, junior. >> thank you. good evening. i'm donald trump, junior. thank you. i'm the father of five young children. from 2-year-old cloe to kai i'm the husband to vanessa. an amazing wife and mother. and the son of a great man.

i'm an american and tonight i want to talk to you about the country we live in. the country our children will grow up in. for my generation, this is the most important election of you are lifetime. one that will determine the future of our country and in turn, the future of the world. for too long our country has ignored its problems, punting them down the road for future generations to deal with. in business, i was trained by my father to make the tough investments and decisions today to assure a brighter future tomorrow. we've actually started to believe that solving our great problems is an impossible task. that's why we need to election a man who has a track record of accomplishing the impossible. for the first time, parents no longer think that their kids will be as well off as we were.

we've lost the confidence in our leaders and the faith in our institutions. remember one thing, we're still americans. we're still one country. and we're going to get it all back. we're going to get it back better than ever before. i know we'll get it back because i know my father. i know that when people tell him it cants be done, that guarantees that he gets it done. i know that when someone tells him that something is impossible, that's what triggers him into action. when people told him it was impossible for a boy from queens to go to manhattan and take on developers in the big city, rather than give up, he changed the skyline of new york. i've seen it time and time again. that look in his eyes when

someone says "it can't be done." i saw that look a little over a year ago. when he was told, he couldn't possibly succeed in politics. yes, he did. for my father, impossible is just the starting point. that's how he approaches business projects, that's how he approaches life. whether it's teaching his granddaughter how to swing a golf club or tackling the toughest negotiations, he's always fully committed. that's why the person who had never run for office before stood on the stage 11 months ago in this very arena, with 16 professional politicians and this week, that same man will stand before you as our party's nominee for the president of the united states of america!

as a proud son and family member, it was one of the great honors of my life to be able to put him over the top in the delegate count earlier today. his unrelenting determination is why he's going to become our next president. and why i know that when my father says he can fix the country, he means it. you want to know what kind of president he'll somebody let me tell you how he ran his businesses. and i know. because i was there with him by his side on job sites, in conference rooms from the time i could walk. he didn't hide out behind some desk in an executive suite, he spent his career with regular americans. he hung out with the guys on construction sites pouring sheetrock and hanging -- pouring concrete and hanging sheetrock. he listened to them and valued

their opinions as much as often more than the guys from harvard and wharton, locked away in offices away from the real work. he's recognized the talent and the drive that all americans have. he's promoted people based on their character, street smarts and work ethic. not simply paper credentials. to this day many of the top executives in our company are individuals that started out in positions that were blue collar, but he saw something in them and he pushed them to succeed. his true gift as a leader is that he sees the potential in people that they don't even see in themselves. the potential that other executives would overlook because their resumes don't include the name of fancy colleges and degrees. i know he values those workers and those qualities in people, because those are the individuals he had my siblings and me work under when we started out.

that he would trust his own children's formative years to these men and women says all you need to know about donald trump. we didn't learn from mbas, we learned from people who had doctorates in common sense. guys like vinni, who taught us how to drive heavy equipment, operate tractors. who worked his way through the ranks to become a trusted advisor of my father. it's why we're the only children of billionaires as comfortable on a caterpillar as we are in our own cars. my father knew that those were the guys that would teach us the dignity of hard work from a very young age. he knows that the heart of the american dream is the idea that whoever we are, wherever we're from we can get ahead. where everyone can prosper together.

the other party also tells us they believe in the american dream. say we should worry about economic inequality and immobility. you know what? they're right. but they don't tell you that it was their policies that caused the problem and it was their policies that have no accountability. they gave us the worst immigration system in the world. one that imports immobility, one that drives down employment and wages for hispanic americans, african americans and for everyone. and immigration system that favors illegals over those trying to go through the process legally. and at times, even over law-abiding citizens. it was bernie sanders himself who warned that a large tide of new workers keeps wages low and poverty high. the other party gave us public

schools that far too often failed our students especially those who have no options. growing up by siblings and i we were truly fortunate to have choices. and option, is that others don't have. we want all americans to have those same opportunities. our schools used to be an elevator to the middle class. now they're stalled on the ground floor. that i can liar soviet department stores that are run for the benefit of the clerk and not the customers. for the teachers and the administrators not the students. you know why other countries do better on k-12? they let parents choose where to send their own children to school. that is calls competition. it's called the free market. and it's what the other party fears. they fear it because they are more concerned about protecting the jobs of tenured teachers

than serving the students in desperate need of a good education. they want to run everything top down from washington. they tell us they are the experts and they know what's best. the other party gave us a regulatory state on steroids. dodd-frank was a thousand pages long and it's already spun off 22,000 pages in regulations. and imagine trying to digest all that before you even open your doors for business. that doesn't help consumers. what it does is destroy small business, in favor of big businesses. who can afford the vast number of lawyers and accountants needed to comply. dodd-frank is consumer protection for billionaires. we produced the thickest network of paper and influence of any

country at any time in world history. it's composed of a self satisfied people at the top, our new aristocrats. we can't live that way any longer. it's too risky. let me talk a little bit about risks. the other party is the party of risk. i've spent many time with many great americans who have served this country in the military they know what is at stake. when we have weak leaders in positions of power, americans risking their lives for our freedoms are less safe. you know, almost daily i get a call or text from real american hero, his name is mark guiss i'm proud to call him a friend. mark was part of the security team at the an necks on our grounds of the conflict in benghazi. mark was one of the men who received frantic phone calls from his buddies at compound, that pleaded for help. calls that he and his team tried to answer. but calls that didn't save all his friends.

because secretary clinton state department had ignored their request for help, both on the night in question and even in the weeks and months leading up to the attack. it was a tragedy and one that would be repeated were she to win the election. ask mark who is fit to lead. who has the judgment to lead. who will take that call at 3:00 in the morning. or better yet, ask yourselves if you were in mark's shoes that night, who would you rather call? let me tell you something about risk. if hillary clinton were elected she'd be the first president who couldn't pass a basic background check.

it's incredible. hillary clinton is a risk americans can't afford to take. she says she'll issue executive orders to take away american guns, want to appoint judges to abolish the second amendment. just look how effective those laws have been in inner-city chicago. a city with the toughest gun laws in our nation. where 70 people were murdered last month 'lone where over 3400 american lives have been lost since this administration took office in 2009. you know why those laws fail? because criminals by definition don't follow laws. rather than prosecuting real criminals she would strip hard working law abiding citizens of their right to protect themselves and their family. she'll throw every possible obstacle in the path of safe, reliable, affordable energy produced in america by

americans, for american businesses and families. rather than being energy independent our company will be beholden to her buddies in the middle east. those are risks we can't afford to take. and when we win, we're not going to have to. there's so much work to do. we will not accept the current state of our country because it's too hard to change. that's not the america i know. we're going to unleash the creative spirit and energy of all americans. we're going to make our schools the best in the world for every single american of every single ethnicity and background. we're going to put americans first. all americans. not a special class of crony elites at the top of the heap. we're going to elect a president that will work with everyone to pass legislation that will make our country great again. a president who will give us a tax code that will free the

american economy and end special loopholes for the wealthy. a president who will give us an immigration law that protects american citizens and gives them jobs. a president who will repeal and replace obamacare without leaving our most vulnerable citizens without healthcare and who will do it without destroying medicare for seniors as hillary clinton has proposed. a president who knows we can't simply delete our problems but that we have to tackle them head on. a president who won't allow pc culture to put the safety and well being of our children and our loved ones at stake. a president who won't bow and and tore nations that shutter at the very thought of america's existence, a president more concerned with the safety and comfort of his fellow americans than the feelings of those hostile nations abroad who has given the option would wipe

america off the face of this earth. a president not behold tone special interests foreign and domestic. and one who funded his entire primary run out of his own pocket just to prove it. a president who will secure and defend a border of the of the united states and will appoint judges who believe that freedom requires a limited government. a president who won't use the highest office in the land as a pass to personal enrichment. a president who has actual ly created real jobs, who actually signed the front of a paycheck. and who doesn't just talk about it in theory. a president who has real people's families and livelihoods dependent on his success and the success of his company for decades.

a president who speaks his mind not just when it behooves him to do so, who doesn't ha to have run a focus group or use data analytics to be able to form a simple opinion. who says what needs to be said and not just what you want to hear. a president who will unleash the greatness in our nation and in all of us, who will give the hard working men and women who built this great country, a voice once again. that president can only be -- my mentor, my best friend, my father, donald trump. and when we elect him we'll have done all that. we'll have made america great again. greater than ever before. thank you and god bless.

>> donald trump junior from completing the -- two trump children tonight coming out to say how wonderful their father is and also to talk a little bit about policy. we're joined by damn of npr, amy walter. mark shields of the cbs "newshour" and david brooks of the "new york times." >> a lot of policy one of the polly heavy speeches of the night. make second to paul ryan's speech. not a lot of anecdotes or touchy-feely stuff it was much more like from campaign strategist building values of the country. the traditional republican values speech talking against

things like regulation in favor ever school vouchers and against public education. >> very much making a case against hillary clinton, mark shields. we heard donald trump junior would be first president who couldn't pass a background check. >> it was very political speech. far more political than -- it was -- he was nervous at the outset he grew in confidence as he connected with the crowd. the crowd responded. he became more comfortable. but other than tiffany trump, was still waiting for sort of that personal sense of dad gets up and we had pillow fights or he was always -- went to him in the middle of the night in the storm. just don't have that -- >> thinking what your children would say. amy? >> pillow fights and -- i don't know that i would have all that have to say.

very strong surrogate for his father made a very strong case for his candidacy, probably more coherent than many of the speakers who come before him. just in the way he was able to package all that have together. i agree he's going to give many anecdotes but made strong case for his father and i agree with domenico for conservative message. you look at twit hear you're seeing from a lot of conservatives who were in the never trump movement or say they don't like donald trump they liked this speech. because to them it sounded like the kind of speech that mitt romney sible to 12 or more traditional conservative would have given. >> what is that, what is that strain of conservatism that would respond to donald trump. >> he mentioned limited government which we haven't heard too much about. it should be said, we've had a string of politicians and the two best features were by two trump children. who are not professional speech makers. they did have some predictions, tiffany had the love and actual

affection for her dad. and donald trump junior warned us against rule by people who went -- it happens that his father happened to be that warden. but that element of class warfare that we trust the people of doctor at of common sense, that resonates. and it doesn't matter if you went to fancy private school or daughter went to pen and you went to penn that's what resonates and the trump family. two kids were so far the story of the night. >> say one thing about the republican convention we've seen lot of different faces in the hall. including our rachel mart in from npr on the podium for us she caught up with a good donald trump friend who is not on schedule but is in the hall. don king. >> i'm here on podium with legendary boxing promoter don king. a trump supporter. thank you so much for taking time to talk with us. >> thank you for having me. >> you have known donald trump a very long time. are you at all surprised that we

are here in this moment, that he has become the g.o.p. nominee? >> well, the people made donald trump the g.o.p. nominee. not the g.o.p. you got to understand that, this is a voice of the people. and i support donald because he says, we will create a whole new system. we will tear this system apart, america first, i want to make america great again that's the essence of it all. give the white woman her rights which she doesn't have, so what the system is creating a new system and people of color don't have his rights. what he's doing in the essence that we create new system of inclusiveness not one of being excluded. >> you know some of his rhetoric has not been as inclusive as many people had wanted it to be. do you think he needs to change what he is say can in the general election in order to bring in more people, in order to bring in particular minority voters?

>> because the voice of the people, remember, we are not -- he bought out all the different racist points of view so they say he's a polarizer. he's an exposer is. he's already -- it's self evident that race relations to the worst they have been in a hundred years. >> you were saying he hasn't stirred up race relations he's exposed them? >> create a whole new system. >> don king, the boxing promot promoter, domenico montanaro, npr, what are you going to shay we're looking at you? >> well, i mean, you have don king. don king is somebody who trump has known since his vegas days. that is a lot of how donald trump connection work. lot of the people you have seen on stage here, not a lot of them i'd call a list celebrities or anything like that, but you have a lot of people who have intersected with donald trump who have benefited in one way or

another from financial relationships and the like. that's something that he can have and point to, say he's going to promote his -- way that he wants. >> amy walter this if not for trump children and even people like don king, this is really already the top folks trying to tell us more about donald trump and feels like we know a lot about him because he's been a celebrity for so long. >> that part is true. i don't know what else it is that they want to help show us. i think they wanted to show us the softer side. that's what we heard from the very beginning from the trump campaign before this convention started saying we're go fog see the softer side of donald trump. i don't know that we've seen much of it. we've seen maybe a little softening of the edges. again, i thought first part of this convention which was so focused on hillary clinton seemed to be much more about driving up her negative than trying to softening his favorables. >> i don't know if there's a

strategy it to, you know what i mean? >> it feels like it's been a big mismatch of a night. >> i think that that's the one driving force that unifies this party. even speeches tonight, this is supposed to be make america work night, right? it's been more about make hillary clinton look tired night or something. they don't want her to be the person -- you saw chris christie deliver a searing indictment of hillary clinton's record who she is. that is really what has been animating this crowd and these voters. >> makes you wonder if they did a little retweaking of the agenda tonight after some of the difficulties they had today, the publicity over melania trump's publicity. let's listen to shelly moore capito, one of the cases they want to prosecute against hillary clinton, the coal mining issue. >> burdening every household in america with cost of $15,000

worth more campaign cash? with the cost of $15,000 worth a few more one liners? wll, i couldn't agree with you more. and i'm sure you agree with me about the importance of this election. one of the reasons this election is so important is because the democrats have nominated a candidates that americans overwhelmingly distrust. you know what? she's earned this reputation. her term at the state department was shrouded in scandal and mistrust. just a few weeks ago fbi director said that secretary clinton was negligent, questioned her judgment and revealed countless ways she has misled the american people.

we know that the corner stone of our global leadership is not just our awesome military. it's not just our economic power. but it's our credibility. she has squandered american's trust. and thankfully, the latest misdeed hasn't slipped past the attention of the american people. recent polls show that voters distrust of hillary was deteriorating her support. so it does come down to trust. she can't be trusted with classified information. or trusted with play by the same rules that you and i play by. and without trust, we cannot feel safe and we cannot thrive. no one -- no one who has lost the trust of the american people should ever serve as our president.

l offer r only thing we can trust hillary to do is double down. we know she will double down on an economic agenda that led to the lowest workforce participation in decades. we know that she will double down on the war on coal. we know that she will double down on obamacare. we know that she will double down on far left supreme court nominees. we know that she will double down on a catastrophic foreign policy that she herself has orchestrated. the contrast between our vision for the future and that of hillary clinton is clear. now is the time to turn the

tide, are you with me? let's turn the tide so that unelected bureaucrats no longer mandate regulations that are disconnected from the realities of working americans. let's turn the tide from an executive who promotes radical environmental agenda, that raises the costs across this country. let's turn the tide from a washington who tells us who our doctors are and delivers a lower quality of care. let's turn the tide to a government that respects the constitution and protects jobs and the way of life of rural america. this is not out of reach. we can make these visions a reality. this week we'll officially nominate a candidate who received the most primary votes in the history of our party. a candidate who understands how to create jobs and grow the

economy. our party wants to allow businesses to create jobs. not regulate jobs out of existence. our party understands the free market and doesn't try to control it. our party stands up for hard working americans like my hard working west virginia coal miners! we must carry this momentum to elect donald trump who speaks directly to americans who have been devastated by the obama administration. west virginiaians know, he understands their problem, shares their concern and by golly is going to do things much differently.

hillary clinton has broken her bond with working americans. so let's commit tonight to bringing our country together in the months ahead, the stakes are both clear and high. take this energy from this convention back to your state, back to your homes and work to elect donald trump, who will make america great again! thank you! ment h. >> delegates, some of them coming to the flower, standing up, cheering on shelly moore pap toe from west virginia followed immediately by the neurosurgeon from baltimore who was running for president, dropped out pretty early. he still has a support base here in the republican party.

remember a time when ben carson is happy to be back in front of the microphone again. >> thank you. all right. don't eat up my time. i want to thank all for that very warm welcome. i have to start out by saying one very important thing. i'm not politically correct. and i hate political correctness. because it's against the founding principles of this country and the secular progressives use it to make people sit down and shut up while they change everything. it's time for us to stand up and shout out about what we believe in. i devoted my career to studying

and operating on the human brain. this remarkable organ defines our humanity. it gives us the ability to not only feel and observe. but to reason. when we elect a president we need to use that power of reasoning. to look at their history, their character, what kind of people they really are. it makes all the difference in the world to us. it is going to be so critical right now. we must resist the temptation to take the easy way out. and to passibly accept what is fair to us by the politically elite and the media. because they don't know what they're talking about. but they have an agenda. now, we must also be weary of the narrative that is being advanced by some in our own party, the notion that a hillary

clinton administration wouldn't be that bad. the effects would only be temporary. that it would only last for foyer at most eight years. they're not using their god-given brain to think about what they're saying. because it won't be for eight years. because she will be appointing people who will have an effect on us for generations and america may never recover from that. that's what we have to be thinking about. we have to start thinking about what would hillary clinton do if she was in fact the president. she would appoint supreme court justices, she would appoint federal judges and that would have a deleterious effect on what happens for generations to come. not only that, but she would

continue with a system that denigrates the education of our young people. puts them in a place where they are never going to be able to get a job. where they are always going to be dependent and where they can there for be cultivated for their votes. this is not what america is all about. this kind of deception. and this is what we, the people, have the necessary obligation to fight. now, one of the things that i have learned about hillary clinton is that one of her heroes, her mentors, was saul olinsky. and her senior thesis was 'sought saul.

this was someone that she greatly admired. and that affected all of her philosophies subsequently. , lot me tell you something. wrote a book called "rules for radicals. on the dedication page, acknowledges lucifer who gained his own kingdom. think about that, this is a nation where our founding document, the declaration of independence talks about certain inalienable rights that comes from our creator. this is a nation. where our pledge of allegiance says we are one nation under god. this is a nation where every coin in our pocket and every bill in our wallet says "in god we trust."

are we're welling to elect someone as president who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges lucifer. think about that! the secular progressive agenda is against the principles of the founding of this nation. if we continue to allow them to take god out of our lives, god will remove himself from us, we will not be blessed in our nation will go down the tubes. and we will be responsible for that. we don't want that to happen. now, donald trump, he understands this very well. he understands that the blessing that this nation come with the responsibility to ensure that they are available to all, not just the privilege few. this is exemplified by his willingness to take on the establishment against all odds. it is evident in his packs for

the american worker, it is found willing in desire to put his considerable skills to work on behalf of american interests, not his self interests, i'm proud to support donald trump. extraordinary businessman, the right leader for a time such as this. you know what? it is not about donald trump. it is not about me. it is about we the people. and thomas jefferson said that we will reach this point, because we the people would not be paying attention and it would allow the government to grow, to expand and to metastasize and to try to rule us. but he said, before we turn to something else, we the people would recognize what was going on. what we were about to lose. and we would rise up and we

would take control of our nation and i say now is the time for us to rise up and take america back. >> retired neurosurgeon ben carson, ran for president. got a warm welcome here tonight. and came out with not only an embrace of donald trump who he endorsed but also a pretty strong, we have seen a lot on hillary clinton. another protester in the hall tonight. usually there's one before they get stopped. then escorted out. >> these are delegates. we're having a tug of war. a minute ago we watched comedi comedian, dressed in sequinned dresses, they were taken out.

>> we are at a political convention. >> ben carson took us to a new level and a different level in the demonizing of hillary clinton. he tied her to saul alinsky and lucifer. somehow she is a protege, disciple of lucifer. this is really rhetorical excess of a new dimension. >> this is so loud with the music we want to be able to hear all of you we're going to an interview that lisa desjardin desjardins -- that rachel martin did, npr rachel martin did. >> i'm down here on the podium with the governor of arkansas, asa hutchinson, just spoke from the stage a few moments ago. governor, thank you for being with us. >> i'm delighted to be with you.

>> you were a late comer to supporting donald trump. what changed your mind? >> well, he won. was a large part of it. i supported marco rubio, but donald trump prevailed in the primaries. whenever i look at clear distinction in november between our choices there's not any doubt that donald trump is the best one to lead our country forward. and then i started to see growing sense of unity and excitement about his campaign. all that he offers. >> he is putting out some ideas about free trade that haven't exactly been in line with long standing republican philosophy about how the global economy works. how are you feeling these days about donald trump's plan to revisit key trade agreements? >> well, i think he'll be a very tough negotiator, that's a major message that he has that we need

to be tough in preserving our jobs at the same time i want to encourage him to engage in a commerce globally. we want to make sure that we continue that international trade that's very important for arkansas. so my job is -- clearly he's the best. also want to shape the direction he goes in more of traditional republican path in terms of we do want to continue that trade. we just want to make sure that we negotiate the best and toughest agreement we can. >> do you think he can unify the party? >> i think he's doing that. the first thing he did was to bring mike pence in, that was a unifying act. a lot of others key have brought in that might have been a good showcase, he's a strong conservative, accepted by a base. that was a unifying message that he did in taking mike pence. i think growing sense here, we're going to -- he's got to do more and his speech is important how he conveys it to bring our

base in terms of energy but also to broaden our base. that's what i'm looking forward in his speech this week. >> governor sauce saw hutchinson, thanks for your time. back to you, gwen and judy. >> thank you, rachel. i we're here been our stalwart team, gwen and i, domenico montanaro, npr, amy walter and david and mark. david, he really, we heard governor hutchinson the journey of a conservative in some regards. he's come around to donald trump but you can hear in his explanation that he arrived at his own decision in a unique way. >> honest, it was opportunistic, the guy won. my party nominee. i wish we be a little different on trade with the subtext of what he just said. that's what a lot of people are going through whether it's the right call, history will decide. good point about the nature of the convention tonight.

we've had no video. donald trump promised different kind of convention, if anything this is more of throw back. >> they scheduled a video. tonight they decided to stay on time. >> just had series of speeches mostly by professional politicians not exactly reality tv. >> entire arc of this campaign seems to have gone from -- not this campaign two nights of the convention started slowly, built up to a peak, usually involving a trump then failed off. right now there is kimberlin brown, soap opera star, avocado farmer. >> i honestly, the sum is less than all of the parts. there isn't -- you don't want out of this evening feeling this is a single message delivered. there have been fragments, you

can assemble something. but there isn't the richard nixon the overarching gleam of an overarching dream or any kind of real theme to it. it's been a themeless evening. >> i would actually push back a little, mark. to me the theme is against hillary clinton. chris christie prosecuting her -- >> every convention, every political gathering is we point with pride or review with alarm. this has been more viewing with alarm. less pointing with pride. >> i would also suggest i agree with judy a little bit that we get caught up in the theme idea. but team tuning in from home are they talking about jobs tonight? i think they're looking to see who is speaking and who is prosecuting the case. >> what i think we found tonight, last couple of days, evolution of conservatives. coming around to donald trump. talking to susan davis our colleague reporting from the

floor, yesterday we were talking about from the floor that there were three kinds of people here. there were never trump folks. there were the brag mitiss and true believers. there's a whole lot of true believers on the floor, probably majority of the delegates. people like asa hutchinson who have been the path of donald trump. lots of critics to bring the party together. chris christie, for example, was hotly critical. remember there was point in this campaign when ben carson, donald trump was up on stage doing impersonation of ben carson stabbing himself with a knife. remember that? this has been a long process, 17 candidates and you're starting to see some of the prog ma tests, come on board for another party unity who they hope will be something that gives them shot. >> amy walter. >> the most interesting thing that asa hutchinson said was the

important donald trump in his speech, broad in the base. we have spent two days with speakers singing to the choir. there has been not one -- couple of candidates -- or speakers, paul ryan, for example, who made the case in his speech about -- talked about poverty, importance of a republican agenda. >> probably share last night from wisconsin talking about making the case where african americans should support him. >> but making very conservative case. not one that was inclusive but much of a bigger, greater, broader audience. so, i don't know that we will see donald trump. but last two days are any indication seems like what the campaign is saying we are doubling, tripling down on the message that got us here. on the campaign strategy that got us here. and that's what we're going to ride to november. >> we'd love to go to some of our colleagues on the floor.

maybe one of them susan davis we just heard domenico refer to you, tell us what your hearing down there. >> one of the things that really struck out tonight is we heard lot about hillary clinton, defining their opponents, also heard lot tonight from congressional leaders this idea of governing, what is republican party is about where do they want to take this country. one of the big questions, can this party work together. between senate majority leader and mitch mock continental and paul ryan and majority leader start to lay ground work, we trust us, we can lead this country want to move in more conservative direction. >> susan, what i wonder about, whether this audience, hard to tell up here in our booth up in the sky, but i'm very curious whether you can tell us whether the folks on the ground are perfect ly satisfied. we saw discontentment with mitch mcconnell, who -6s the person

who really got the crowd my sense that the trump children were warmly received. but it was really chris christie who got the mood of the place. >> it was chris christie. he got them on their feet. paul ryan got them on their fe feet. we've established that the chant of fix is "lock her up. in response to, drill, baby, drill at other conventions. crowd here does feel fired up. they feel increasingly engaged. talk to a lot of delegates who are reluctant coming into this convention hall, but this is here to rally the party faithful, little by little every day. trump kids did impress the crowd. >> thank you, susan davis with npr now let's to go lisa desjardins with the "newshour" somewhere else on the floor. >> hi, guys. i disagree a little bit about paul ryan. i found the crowd didn't seem to be paying much attention to his

every word. i think tonight my take away were chris christie the prosecutor. ben carson, the minister. that gets you through the justice and religion that i think is background of many of the delegates. also something we haven't talked about is who is not in the hall. the ohio delegation in particular was cheering again and again during the roll call for john kasich. he the only person to receive votes for president at this convention who will not be here. and there are many members of congress not here as well. you can tell by this point in the night many have gone home. that is a challenge for this party, get to folks who are not in this hall for the donald trump. >> when you see people come out tonight for this, as we know what we know about what we're going to see tomorrow. who do you think -- everyone coming out to see? >> i think it's going to be mike pence. even the last two nights as

we've seen mike pence and vice president shall box. many conservatives he's not a known quantity in this role. as potential bulldog, the trump backer, someone more fired up than we've heard. i think he's going to be a very big draw. newt gingrich also obviously someone who the crowd knows very well. from what we've seen when we've tagged along with him, he's very well loved. i think those are probably two of the highlights. the trump children continue to get a lot of attention and obviously they got that starring prime time role. that's not an act as amy was saying they want to make donald trump a little more real. tiffany trump, first time i heard personal anecdotes about donald trump f. there's more of that, maybe they will make the case of making him more private figure. >> thank you. you make good points. coming back to our friends in the sky booth here. it is a case that we're hearing

from almost all the other candidates. notably not john kasich. mark shields we haven't heard from trods auto told he was going to speak. lot of folks. 470-some votes among these delegates for ted cruz? maybe stand up -- >> he has not endorsed. >> that was fascinating. when he said that he accepted the speaking slot, made the point of saying that there was no talk of an endorsement. >> maybe that means endorsement don't matter or -- >> very much a vision speech. maybe ted cruz will -- >> how can ted cruz endorse after what he said about his father. his father fled castro's cuba then ted cruz on the day of the indiana primary, donald trump accused his father of having been involved in the assassination of lee harvey oswald. you embrace endorse somebody like that. >> not to mention lying ted.

want to hear from rachel martin who at the podium what is your fay on tonight? >> judy, i'm thinking the fact that we saw lot of really heavy hitters tonight. i mean, these are republican establishment folks. the most establishment that you can get we talk about speakers of house, paul ryan, mitch m mcconed. talk about chris christie. he likes to position himself as independent kind of guy. he's an office holder. this is very mh the kind of endorsement, the kind of support that he needs in order to do what we've been talking about. unify the party. needs these people to help him do that. and of course, the speakers from the children. tiffany trump, giving a personal, more personal look than we heard even from melania trump and donald trump junior

incredibly substantive speech. might hear from member of congress, instead someone from perhaps can serve as surrogate for donald trump. i thought it was very strong. we'll see what tomorrow holds. tomorrow's theme for what those are worth is, make america first. >> thank you so much. we have time for updated quick thought on what expected for tomorrow? >> i'm truck by tonight. one of these things for decade you build for the final climax right now. control that last 10:00 hour. they are all empty. i'm struck, what happens to melania speech they commissioned a speech from two of the best republican writers, they drew that speech out. saying we're not sure what is running

one person. >> that he is the good choice. now let's see what kind of candidate he will end up being. maybe tomorrow night we'll hear about jobs and hear about making america work and making america strong. >> or maybe not. that wraps it up for tonight we want to thank all of you here with us in the booth, domenico, amy, mark and david and my colleague, gwen. that does conclude our special nprpbs "newshour" coverage of this republican national convention in cleveland. i'm judy woodruff. >> we'll see you right back here tomorrow night. thank you and good night.

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