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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: the f.b.i. announces it will review a new batch of emails related to hillary clinton's handling of classified information-- while donald trump's campaign funds dwindle. then, giving power back to sexual assault survivors-- one woman's fight to change the laws and advocate for survivors around the nation. >> rape is notorious for being underreported, and it's because survivors are faced with a system that is stacked so high against them. >> woodruff: plus, preserving the last great wilderness in a landmark agreement among nations, antarctica's ross sea becomes the world's largest marine sanctuary.
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public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: call it an "october surprise:" today's f.b.i. statement about hillary clinton's e-mails roiled the presidential race, just 11 days before the election. donald trump pounced. the clinton camp demanded more information. lisa desjardins begins our coverage. >> reporter: hillary clinton landed in cedar rapids, iowa to campaign, but was greeted by the news that the f.b.i. is reviewing newly found e-mails linked the private server she used as secretary of state. in a letter to congressional chairmen, f.b.i. director james comey said an unrelated investigation turned up-- e-mails that appear pertinent to the clinton case. he said he "agreed with his team
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to allow investigators to review the emails and determine whether they contain classified information, as well as assess their importance." the candidate herself did not respond to shouted questions, and did not address it at her rally, sticking with her stump speech. everyone working across the state are going to make sure that we win iowa. >> reporter: clinton's campaign chairman did send out a statement this afternoon calling the timing of the announcement extraordinary and urging the f.b.i. to give more details about the e-mails in question-- stressing that it's not clear if these e-mails are significant. but in manchester, new hampshire... >> i just heard this ten minutes ago. >> reporter: the news was certainly significant to donald trump. >> we must not let her take her are criminal scheme into the oval office. i have great respect for the fact that the f.b.i. and the department of justice are now willing to have the courage to
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right the horrible mistake that they made. >> reporter: this, the same day that clinton hoped to focus on other areas like debuting a new television ad featuring president obama. >> last eight years was on the ballot. >> and the clinton campaign >> reporter: and the clinton camp had good news on the fundraising front, as donald trump faced new money questions, especially about repeated pledges like this from two days ago. >> i'll have over $100 million in the campaign. and i'm prepared to go much more than that. >> reporter: but new fundraising reports show the total trump personally donated to the campaign was $56 million as of just over a week ago. his contributions dropped in october to a total of $31,000 for the first three weeks of this month. what might matter more is how much trump's campaign has on hand-- it's $16 million according to the report. that compares with $62 million in hillary clinton's war chest.
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today, trump said he is writing a $10 million check to his campaign-- that is a big boost-- but still leaves a more than two to one money gap. meanwhile, key senate races are winding up with a contentious new hampshire senate debate last night. and a headline-making face-off in illinois. democratic congresswoman and iraq war veteran tammy duckworth had spoken of her family's history of military service, going back to the revolutionary war. that prompted this from incumbent republican mark kirk: >> i had forgotten that your parents came all the way from thailand to serve george washington. >> reporter: duckworth's mother is a thai immigrant. her father's family does go back to the nation's founding. kirk later apologized. with a week and a half left, the twists and turns of campaign 2016 keep coming. for the pbs newshour, i'm lisa desjardins. >> woodruff: in the day's other news: the u.s. supreme court announced today it will take up the issue of transgender rights, for the first time.
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the justices accepted a case from virginia. it involves a transgender teen who was barred from using the boys' bathroom at a high school. a lower court has ordered the school board to accommodate the student. the secretary of the interior says she's "profoundly disappointed" with the acquittals in oregon's wildlife refuge takeover. secretary sally jewell says she's concerned it will damage the security and management of public lands. seven defendants were charged with conspiracy after they occupied the refuge for 41 days. they say yesterday's verdict vindicates their claims of federal over-reach: >> we have to say we are so grateful for the patriots and for those jurors who spent their time. and we know it's a great sacrifice, and we are so grateful. we are in tears because we were so happy that they heard the truth and they weren't intimidated enough that they did come back with the right judgment. >> woodruff: the group's leader-
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- ammon bundy-- is being held on other charges from a 2014 nevada standoff. his lawyer also faces charges after yelling at the judge yesterday to release bundy. u.s. marshals used a stun gun to subdue him in court. the u.s. economy surged ahead in the year's third quarter by the most in two years. commerce department numbers today show the gross domestic product increased at an annual rate of 2.9%. that's twice the growth rate in the second quarter. in syria: opposition fighters launched a new offensive today, pushing back against the government's siege of the city of aleppo. the rebels-- including some islamist militants-- attacked the western half of the city, the side controlled by government troops. state media said the military repelled the attack. later, the office of russian president vladimir putin said he has decided against resuming air strikes on aleppo. the war in yemen may be taking a sharp, new turn.
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overnight, shiite rebels fired a ballistic missile deep into neighboring saudi arabia, which backs the yemeni government. saudi officials say the missile was intercepted about 40 miles outside the holy muslim city of mecca. the rebels claim the actual target was the international airport at jiddah-- northwest of mecca. the united nations warns that islamic state fighters in iraq are using tens of thousands of civilians as human shields in the battle for mosul. iraqi troops have been closing in on the city. and, u.n. officials said today that as the militants retreat, they're forcing men, women and children to go with them. >> isil's depraved cowardly strategy is to attempt to use the presence of civilian hostages to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations, effectively using tens of thousands of women, men and children as human shields. many of those who refused to
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comply were shot on the spot. >> woodruff: the u.n. estimates isis killed more than 200 civilians on wednesday alone. there is new unrest in pakistan: anti-government protesters fought with police today in islamabad and other cities. crowds threw rocks, and officers answered with batons and tear gas. several people were arrested, but the street clashes eased at nightfall. the protesters are demanding that prime minister nawaz sharif step down over corruption charges. it is the deadliest incident yet in the philippines' drug war. police in a southern province killed a mayor and nine of his men in a shootout today. hours earlier, outspoken president rodrigo duterte declared thousands more may die in the drug war. he also said he's going to stop swearing because god spoke to him, and warned him to mend his ways. back in this country: the death of a two-star u.s. army general, just two days before he was to
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assume command of the space and missile defense command, has been ruled a suicide. major general john rossi was found dead at his home at redstone arsenal, alabama in july. he's the first general officer to take his own life since record keeping began in 2000. military suicides have risen in recent years, but an army statement today shed no light on rossi's motive. on wall street: the dow jones industrial average lost eight points to close at 18,161. the nasdaq fell nearly 26 points, and the s&p 500 fell six. for the week, the dow gained a faction, the nasdaq fell more than 1%, and the s&p 500 dropped seventh-tenths of a percent. and, bob dylan will accept the nobel prize for literature, after all. he had not been heard from since the prize was announced, two weeks ago. but today, the nobel foundation said dylan has now called to say he "appreciates the honor," and accepts. no word yet on whether he'll attend the award ceremony in
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december. still to come on the newshour: the f.b.i.'s review of new emails linked to hillary clinton, the tight race for president in unexpected battleground states, efforts to stop rape kits from being destroyed, and much more. >> woodruff: we return to today's revelation that the f.b.i will review newly discovered e-mails connected to hillary clinton's handling of classified information. to help us unpack what we know is devlin barrett of the "wall street journal." devlin, welcome back to the "newshour". so where did these e-mails come from? >> i'm told that these e-mails were found on a personal laptop that was shared by a key clinton aid and her then husband, now separated, anthony weiner who is
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a former congressman. the back story is mr. wiener is under investigation for allegedly sexting with potentially an underaged girl and they looked at that laptop as part of the investigation and found a whole slew of e-mails, some of which i'm told includes ms. aberdeen's work sessions on e-mails and they have to go through the e-mails to see if any may contain classified or other information that the investigators were consider constructive to the email investigation. >> woodruff: thousands of e-mails? >> thousands on the laptop,ip told, but they have to go through to find out how many are her work discussions and that number i'm told hasn't been calculated yet. >> woodruff: but this investigation into hillary clinton's confidential e-mails has been going on for some time. they're just now looking at this particular laptop? >> right. i'm told investigators in the original clinton email investigation were not aware of this device being used for any state department work
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discussions at the time they did that investigation. i'm told that the f.b.i. essentially only realized that they had possession of these work discussions, these email work discussions earlier this week. so there's been, frankly, a bit of a scramble in the f.b.i. in the last few days, to one, figure out what they have and then figure out what the to do about it. >> woodruff: so this happens 11 days before the presidential election? this has to do with one of the two nominees for president. did the f.b.i. say anything to you about the timing of this and whether that affected their decision? >> they're not saying anything publicly. what i'm told is they considered the possibility of just reviewing the material and then telling congress later. i think the decision they came to, though, was that they'd rather take whatever grief they're going to take for saying this now than be accused after the election of having held it back and sat on something important and wait until the election was over to tell
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people. >> woodruff: so we have the chairman of hillary clinton's campaign and a number of others saying we want to see what that is, it's not fair. >> right. >> woodruff: that you're doing this without letting us see what's there. what do they say to that? >> right. i think the challenge for both campaigns is they get to talk to this without knowing what the underlying facts are. it's my understanding the f.b.i. don't know the underlying facts. that's what they're trying to figure out. i think it will be a political football for the rest of the time and it's obviously politically a very big deal. what no one knows is the a big deal legally, does it have a legal consequence? it almost certainly will have a political consequence but it's not clear at all if this will have a legal consequence. >> woodruff: how long do they think this will take to go through the e-mails? >> there are two steps. first you have to find the universe of working e-mails and then you have to figure out is any of the information classified.
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classification reviews can take weeks or months. if there are things that are potentially classified, we may not know that for months. >> woodruff: that you have already begin the process of going through what's on this laptop. >> right. >> woodruff: and who's doing the work? >> well, it's the f.b.i. investigators, it's the folks who did the original email investigation and they're now going through -- and one thing they don't know is how many of the e-mails on that laptop are possibly copies of e-mails they've already seen earlier in the investigation. >> woodruff: that she may have cop idea herself. >> right, if there is e-mails between two people, they normally exist on two computers, so they have to figure out about the copies. >> woodruff: it opens up new questions closer to election day. devlin barrett, thank you. >> thank you. >> woodruff: while it's too soon to tell what the impact of today's revelation will be on
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the presidential race, there are plenty of other dynamics to drill down on. here to discuss how the campaign is playing out in some of the states where it matters most, we're joined by: andra gillespie, a professor of political science at emory university in atlanta, emily ramshaw, she's editor-in-chief of the "texas tribune" in austin, and paul steinhauser, political director for n.h. one in manchester, new hampshire. >> woodruff: we we canal all of you to the program. i'm going to start with you emily by asking where the race stands in the state of texas. i'm doing that because i can't believe texas is actually in play in this election year because mitt romney won four years ago by how many points? >> close to 18 percentage points. it's really a fascinating case now. we are in theory within the margin of error. polling shows hillary clinton is trailing donald trump here by 3 percentage points. early voting turnout has been through the roof in almost every major county. for the first time in my career covering texas, texas is actually in theory in play for
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democrats. >> woodruff: andra gillespie, we've asked you to look at three states for us that are in play. where you are now, georgia, which is a place, again, you wouldn't expect democrats would have a shot. what does it look like right now in georgia? >> so right now the polls have donald trump ahead, but his lead is within the statistical margin of error. again, this is something nobody would have expected in a normal presidential election year but this year has been anything but normal. >> woodruff: what about florida, which you're also looking at? >> so in florida, it's also statistically died. it's a little mixed. going into this week a lot of prognosticator put florida in the lead clint category, but a couple of polls but donald trump up. but these are narrow leads and statistically within the margin of error, so we can say nothing about the fact that they're tied now. >> woodruff: we hear today hillary clinton will spend much of the weekend in florida, in
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daytona beach and miami. andra, north carolina, that's where both contestants have been living in the last weeks. >> this is a hotly contested state. we're talking about razor then margins of error. right now people are looking at north carolina as the must-win state for donald trump as he hopes to be able to amass 270 electoral college voters and, for that reason, hillary clinton yesterday brought michelle obama in to shore up support there to make sure she keeps that in the lean clinton category. again, it's statistically too close to call. >> woodruff: paul steinhauser, you are in new hampshirey trump was today. how's it looking there? >> well, i think you could say donald trump is one happy dude today. he broke the news about the email investigation by the f.b.i. at the rally. tighter in new hampshire. 3.8 for clinton. if you average the polls in the
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last week only 5 points for clinton. one reason you see donald trump back three times this month, seven times since the republican convention, judy. >> woodruff: let's talk about why the rails are shaping up the way they are. emily ramshaw, in texas, what is driving voters? i'm sure you've talked to some, your reporters have talked to them. what is motivating them this year? >> the polarization of this race. you're seeing huge turnouts in communities with large latino populations, a lot of women turning out to the polls saying they're outraged by donald trump's comments about women. at the same time you're seeing record turnout in strong republican parts of the state where folks are determined to ensure that hillary clinton does not get elected. you're seeing incredible polarization and anger and outrage and excitement on both sides. >> woodruff: emily, staying with you, what about in the latino community? how is that breaking down? >> latinos in texas are considered the sleeping giant,
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largely democratic leaning when they go to the polls but difficult to get to the polls. so far from early voting turnout, normally you vote in texas to avoid the lines. incredible lines in the first five days of early voting particularly in strong latino community, even on the border and in el paso. so that would suggest a lot of these latinos are being spurred to the polls. >> woodruff: andra gillespie, we've asked you to take on three states. in georgia, the fact hillary clinton is even in contention there, how do you explain it? >> well, i think it's a number of factors. one, just the polarizing candidacy of donald trump which has divided the republican party and perhaps dampened enthusiasm among parts of the population uh especially suburban college educated white women. we expect that given donald trump's immigration rhetoric
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that groups will trend democratic. we've also seen efforts in the democratic party to do party building to make sure that they identify likely democratic voters in the state in an attempt to try to get them to register to vote as well. >> woodruff: well, let's jump to floriday we know it's a very different demographic dynamic. the latino vote there has been significant. what role is it playing this year? >> so i think this year all eyes are going to be on the orlando area in particular. so we know that, in south florida, cuban-americans have historically trended republican in presidential elections, so the latino population in the state of florida is diversifying. so you're looking at puerto ricans who may be leaving the economic woes of the island to come to the mainland and they can register to vote, they're u.s. citizens. so we can see a different type of latino electorate, one disinclined to support donald trump for president and again the same national precious with donald trump having alienated
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many women and african-americans and this might drive up turnout for hillary clinton amongst these segments of the electorate. >> woodruff: in both florida and north carolina, what kind of organization do these two campaigns clinton and trump have? >> so donald trump has relied on the r.n.c. to do a lot of the g.o.t. work and hasn't laid the same type of infrastructure hillary clinton has and this could be the difference between wing and losing this time around. we know clinton has more campaign offices, more paid staff, and these people are in place to help direct the gotv operations, to get people to the polls in early voting and get them out on election day. so this is not to say the trump campaign isn't organizing but it's in a decentralized fashion. it's hard to know if that could
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yield the turnout a classic shoe leather campaign can. >> woodruff: paul steinhauser, you alluded to this a moment ago but what is driving voters in new hampshire this year? the same o sort of polarizations in other states? >> we're not that different than the rest of the country. we get a lot of campaign traffic. we get two bites at the apple. we still have the candidates in the primary. we're old school. our voting is november 8, no early voting. it's about grassroots efforts to get out the voting here, about the door knocks and phone calls. as in the other states, the trump campaign is stronger. they've had long tore put their organization together but still the clinton campaign has the bigger get out the vote effort than the trump campaign here in new hampshire. >> woodruff: let me touch base with all three of you with this question. emily, you first. how much is undecided, would you say, or people who still may change their minds in texas?
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>> you know, i think, at this point, most folks' minds are already made up. you saw clinton playing late in the game, she started advertising a little in texas, unheard of for a democrat in the presidential race, opened office here's. but by this point in the game, most people know how they're voting and records are so high. >> woodruff: georgia, florida, north carolina, what would you say about minds not quite made up, andra? >> it's not as much about persuasion as mobilization, so given the turn in news events, whether tapes or e-mails, that's fodder for campaigns to go out and try to reach their targeted groups of people. so if they've done the hard work of identifying voters and banking the votes, now it's a question of getting the voters out to the polls. so changes in the news cycle probably aren't going to change folks' minds at this point. a lot of that's already baked in and reflected in the numbers of
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people who have turned out for early voting. we'll wait to see whether this is a harbinger of record turnout and whether people are making up their minds already. i think the race comes down to who is best to get their people out to the polls between now and november 8. >> woodruff: in a couple of seconds, paul. minds not made up, big or small percentage? >> very small percentage here, same story. minds are pretty much made up andeth all about getting out the base not only in the presidential race but the blockbuster u.s. senate race as well, judy. >> woodruff: which we didn't talk about but will in one of the coming days will have the election. paul steinhauser, andra gillespie, emily ramshaw. thank you very much. >> woodruff: stay with us.
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coming up much more politics as mark shields and david brooks take on the week's news, and a call for designers to make gorgeous plus-sized clothing. but first: how one woman's struggle to protect evidence in her rape case led to the start of a movement. and now, a new federal law. john yang has her story. >> over and over again what i started discovering is a system that is so broken. >> reporter: for sexual assault survivors like amanda nguyen, this small box has the tremendous power to deliver justice and bring closure. it's a rape kit. inside are the tools to collect and store the evidence to track down and prosecute an assailant >> rape is notorious for being underreported, and it's because survivors are faced with a system that is stacked so high against them. >> reporter: amanda was assaulted in 2013 when she was in college in massachusetts.
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rape kits are automatically destroyed in that state after six months unless the victim asks for an extension. and how do they do that? >> the catch is that there's no information given on how to extend it, and the greater catch is that there's actually no way to extend it. >> reporter: even after she filled out the proper forms, the bureaucratic confusion continued. >> i found out that against an extension put into place, my kit was wrongly removed from the forensic lab and almost destroyed. so even if i've played by their game, it still is broken. >> reporter: after that, amanda began asking questions. she learned that in most states, police can legally destroy rape kits well before the statute of limitations runs out. >> what that literally means is that if i was raped in a state that doesn't destroy kits-- like california, colorado, texas, illinois-- then this wouldn't have happened to me, and it's just because massachusetts doesn't have those rights.
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>> reporter: an activist was born. >> i had a choice. i could accept injustice or rewrite the law, and one of these things is a lot better than the other. my mission is simple: fix the patchwork of rights. >> reporter: amanda formed a coalition of rape survivors demanding a federal bill of rights. a change.org petition has more than 140,000 signatures. most sexual assaults are investigated and prosecuted under state law, but amanda believes that a national standard can serve as a model for statehouses. earlier this month, that finally became a reality when president obama signed the sexual assault survivors bill of rights. it's the first time that the term "sexual assault survivor" appears in federal law. the bill says those who've been assaulted should be clearly told their legal rights, be able to track the status and results of their rape kit, not pay for a rape kit exam, and be able to get the police report. >> the way we met amanda is that
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she just starting coming to offices on the hill. >> reporter: to help draft the "sexual assault survivors act, amanda turned to democratic senator jeanne shaheen of new hampshire. senator, what would the bill do, what's in the bill? >> often times the system makes victims feel like they are being re-victimized. and so the bill is an effort to say that survivors of sexual assault should have certain rights under our criminal justice system, and they should know what those rights are, and everyone should be treated-- fairly. this is something that is overlooked in the law the way it exists now. so it was really her advocacy and her determination that has raised this issues, and gives us all of those supporters around the country who can help us talk to other senators and members of congress to get this done. >> reporter: amanda's coalition is now lobbying state lawmakers across the country.
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versions of the bill are pending in several states including oregon, california and maryland, and has even passed in massachusetts. the overall goal of the bill is to empower assault victims with information. >> it's so scary, it's so overwhelming to walk into a hospital to not have any idea really about what is going to happen. >> reporter: in washington d.c's med-star washington hospital center, any patient requesting a rape kit exam is offered a forensic nurse specially trained to conduct these exams. and a sexual assault advocate like lindsey silverberg, she's there to provide victims with legal and emotional support. >> one of the benefits of having an advocate, with someone in the exam room and afterward with them is they can then decided to engage law enforcement. after the forensic exam is over, they have somebody who can walk them through that system and we have seen an increase in the number of people who decided to report to law enforcement after an exam, once they have all the information.
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>> reporter: but in many states, full-time professional advocates like lindsey don't exist. >> access to competent well trained individuals-- both an advocate and a forensic nurse-- is not the national standard at the moment. >> reporter: amanda continues to champion the rights of the estimated 25 million sexual assault survivors nationally. she is cheered by unexpected encounters like this one with an uber driver on one of her many rides to capitol hill. >> and he didn't talk to me the entire ride, but he saw i was going to the senate, and he asked me, and i told him the reason why, and what i was fighting for. and this man, who i'd never met before-- was once intimidating-- started crying. like tears just welled-up in his eyes. and he turned to me and he said, "my daughter is a rape survivor and when she went to the system, they did not treat her right." and when we arrived at the
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senate, he stopped and said, "can i shake your hand? thank you so much for fighting for my daughter." >> reporter: for the pbs newshour, i'm john yang in washington. >> woodruff: now, a major agreement on ocean conservation. today, dozens of nations created the world's largest marine reserve at the bottom of the globe. william brangham has the story. >> reporter: 24 countries and the european union agreed today to set aside 600,000 square miles of ocean. the newly-protected zone is in the ross sea, which borders antarctica. most commercial fishing will be banned in this area, though researchers will be allowed to take limited samples. the protection will take effect starting december 2017, and will continue for 35 years. for more on what this means, and how it came to be, i am joined by karen sack.
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she's managing director of conservation organization ocean unite. welcome. nice to be reporting on good news. >> it's fantastic to be talking about really unprecedented news for the ocean. >> brangham: tell us, how important is this? >> this is truly a seminal event in ocean government. it's the first time countries around the world are coming together to agree not to take species out of the water but to leave them in and for a good long period of time. >> brangham: so what species in particular are we protecting with this preserve? >> well, the ross sea is known as a garden of eden in the ocean or sometimes called the ocean certaisarin getty. there are 16,000 species that live there from sales, whales, penguins, of course. commercially, the species caught
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there is called antarctic tooth number. >> brangham: we think of invasions within own territorial waters but this is different. >> it is. it's because the an antarctic ad the southern ocean around it is governed collectively by a group of countries under the antarctic treaty system, and the system came into being at the height of the cold war where countries set aside differences and agree to governorton antarctic as a place for peace and science. that governance is now extending into the ocean, and about five years ago the countries agreed to begin to work together to establish marine reserves and protected areas, and the ross sea is the first big one they've managed to agree to. >> brangham: i also understand russia needed to be cajoled to putting its name on this
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agreement. >> part of the difficulty and why this is such a significant agreement is that decisions are made by consensus, which means that all of those 24 countries and the european union have to agree to a decision going forward. for several years, russia and china were not supportive of establishing a protective area. there was very high-level engagement from the obama administration. we believe president obama actually discussed this issue with president xi in china, and that shifted the chinese position over the last 18 months secretary kerry has really worked incredibly hard with his counterparts in new zealand and around the world working with minister lavrov of russia, and it was just earlier this week, we understand, that we managed to reach agreement. >> brangham: it was that touch
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and go? >> it was that close. several of us were planning for maybe another year of negotiation, and it is just fantastic that we managed to get to this point, and is a testament to the ability of multi-nationalism to work, even when there are incredibly difficult issues on the global agenda at the moment. >> brangham: we said at the beginning this is a 35-yore period of time where this space will be protected. is that long enough? >> well, no, i it isn't. in fact, this is one to have the big -- this is one of the big sticking points for russia, how long the area should be protected for. the science shows marine protected areas should be in place without a limit in their duration. we believe, though, that these 35 years will provide the marine life in the antarctic and the
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ross sea area the ability to show us all how amazing it is and will convince everyone sitting at the table 35 years from now to continue protecting this unbelievably iconic and special ocean area. >> brangham: all right, karen sack, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> woodruff: back to politics now, and to the analysis of shields and brooks. that's syndicated columnist mark shields, and "new york times" columnist david brooks. welcome, gentlemen. mark. >> hi. ello, judy! >> woodruff: we have a moment of levity before we talk about something very serious, david, and that is this announcement from the f.b.i. that they have a new batch of e-mails from a laptop that belongs to hillary clinton's aid huma abedin. 11 days before the election, how much does this matter? >> i think it matters. we're not going to know the
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substance of it by election day. whatever e-mails were in there, whatever they were investigating it's hard to believe we'll have actual knowledge, but it brings anthony weiner back to the surface and the argument republicans can make with a lot of justices, welcome to the next four years of your life, having a reign of clinton without a lot of scandal bubble ling up is not something we have historical precedent for. this is just another. who you hang around with and associate with will come back to haunt you. it's almost perverse in the way we've come down to sex scandals and the way this election has descended into the realm of kardashianville. but we're here and a lot of others will think there is scandal on all sides, it's sleazy. that's not the substance of what we've learned but that's the atmosphere. >> woodruff: what will you think will happen? >> it will have a long-term
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effect on politics. the legendary ward boss in boston around the turn of the schin said never right it -- never write it when you can say it, never say it when you can wink it, and never wink it when you can nod it. i mean, the compulsion to put all this stuff in e-mails i think comes back -- is going to haunt future campaigns. as far as right now, for the clinton campaign, it's a real kick in the teeth. they had been resolved, they'd gotten a clean bill of health or at least a nonprosecution by the f.b.i. director 90 days ago, and to have this revisited, especially featuring anthony weiner who doesn't have to be introduced to the nation is a political problem, and it does just remind us of the problems and difficulties that have surrounded the family for years. >> woodruff: so it's a problem even not knowing what's in these
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e-mails. >> there are two levels of media information. there is those of us who cover politics a lot and probably most people watching our shows, whether this channel or any of the cables or the many networks, they have decided that this gets to entertainment tonight, because every comedian, it gets to the "national enquirer," it gets out to the group of people who are, as they say, not information-rich voters who are the ones who are actually deciding and a lot of their decision is i really don't like this donald trump guy so i've got to vote for clinton, but now i've got to news about clinton, and they're just going on their moral instinct and begins to look like the parody of sleaze. >> woodruff: do you think there is many people who are unpersuaded or maybe will stay home and not vote? >> i think, judy, there is no question going into this week that the democrats were very much in the saddle and very
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dominant. in utah, in the last ten elections, seven times has been the most republican state in the union. in the last week in october, the republicans feel it's necessary because to have the third-party challenge in the column, that they're worried about it being a three-way race and perhaps losing, they send the vice presidential candidate all the way out there. that tells you their planned defense. right next door in arizona which voted republican 15 of the last 16 times, michelle obama is introduce bid barry goldwater's granddaughter to a crowd of 7,000. democrats are on the offensive. then you get three things that have happened. you get the obamacare raise and hikes, the wikileaks and the unflattering peek into the financial doings of the clinton foundation and former president bill clinton, and then you get
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this. it hurts, judy. the women voters, especially republican women voters who as david said turned off donald trump, were trending toward hillary clinton and i think younger idealistic sanders voters, it may just stop them for a second, if they were turning tn vote for hillary clinton, whether, gee, do i really want to do it? and i think that's the problem for democrats. >> maybe we should put in perspective. say hillary clinton says she has an 87% chance of winning now. i think this may knock it down a point or two so that may reduce her chance of winning to 80 or 75. i don't think it's like a game changer by any stretch of the imagination, but a point or two, if we were driving home and somebody said you have a 30% chance of getting into a wreck going home, we would think those are bad odds. so it slightly increases -- >> woodruff: you're saying it's not going to turn the race around but will have an effect? >> i think everything was heading in her direction, and i
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think it maybe fazes that. i agree it's not a game changer, but if hillary clinton won by 5 points or more, virtually every republican i know believes she'll carry the senate, and then all of a sudden a 2-point victory, it means a couple of things, that the senate is very much up for grabs and that donald trump will be a factor in a very bloody civil war in the republican party after this election. >> woodruff: you mean whichever way? >> i think ehe suffered a stinging defeat of 10 points in that area, i think he would no longer be major. nobody in h republican party basically wants him to be there, but he would have a claim if he loses by 2. >> woodruff: so this clear has been a bad week for hillary clinton. david, i do want to bring up something mark mentioned and that is you hear not justtimic women, independent, republican
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women saying, and we had a discussion about it here on the "newshour" last night, who are really troubled by what they've seen in the course of this election. how long lasting a problem is that for the republican party? >> i think it's mostly -- of course, there's always been the gender gap. it's for republicans politically, it's been manageable. it depends on how they project themselves. in some years they've done bert. but donald trump is so egregious in the way he talks about women, allegedly treated women. i do think it's more his own thing, and where you're seeing it especially is among college-educated women. the college-educated in general in all our previous elections voted republican but now massively for the docrats and college-educated women, in particular, 65% for hillary clinton, and they're turned off trump on the issues but especially the moral behavior that he's understood taken. but i still think it's mostly a
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trump phenomenon. next time you get a mitt romney or somebody who's morally clean, i don't think it lingers. >> woodruff: do you think that's the way it will work, mark? >> no, i think mitt romney is the conspicuous exception. mitt romney was the man who stood up to donald trump early, hard, never wavered. we've seen this back and forth. jason chaffetz from utah saying i have a 15-year-old daughter, no way i could support somebody like him, now he's voting for him. the democrats have tried the war in the past but when you've got a candidate who basically authors his own how-to tape on how to assault women for your own needs and wants, you know, without -- with impunity, and you don't have that many people
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stand up and say it's unacceptable, i think it's a stain on the republicans, and i think it could very well be a problem. not mentionable in the '64 right act but i don't think it will go away in a hurry. >> i agree it's a stain, but i will make a generational point that there is a big difference on these issues and ethnic diversity and a bunch of issues and sensibility issues between older and younger republicans. what newt gingrich said to megyn kelly, totally insensitivity to sexual assault. i don't meet too many candidates under 45 who are that numb and blind, and i do think there are different attitudes growing mop the republican party especially among social conservatives, among evangelical voters. it's hard to find an evangelical person under 45, let alone on college campuses, who have tolerance for donald trump. of course, they're there, but
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there is a stark generational divide. so the rising group of republican voters are different tonally on these issues. >> woodruff: so it's not just evangelical women. >> i don't disagree with david. but i think what's been unleashed by this experience, donald trump and the women who have come forward, i think there's been a spontaneous almost public and private confessional of women everywhere in every generation about revealing to their own daughters, to their spouses, to their -- >> woodruff: about their own experience. >> -- about their own experience. and i think this is out there now, it really is. it's an issue that was very private, and i think, now, it's very much a part of the national agenda, and i think there is not going to be an unwillingness to address this in the future like there has been in the past. >> and briefly, marcia coyle, our supreme court reporter, reported this week for the
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"national law journal," a woman who posted on her facebook page personally something that happened between her and supreme court justice clarence thomas is now in the news but it goes to your point mark that it's going forward. just a little bit of time i don't want to leave everybody on a political note tonight because there is something going on in this country that has to do with baseball, andeth the world series, and it's the cubs and indians, these are not a two teams that have spent a lot of time in the series. you two love baseball. what do you see happening? you have the tell me who's going to win. mark? >> i can't tell you who will win but i will say everybody knows teddy roosevelt was president the last time the cubs won the world series, 1908. so the cubs are kind of america's darling. i mean, everybody's rooting for them and they're trendy. they're kind of chic, you know. but cleveland is special.
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cleveland is the second franchise and the first mr. if american league to desegregate in 1948. beyond that, they are the real underdogs in this race -- i mean, in this competition. so i have a very soft spot for cleveland. >> woodruff: jim bouton of the yankees said if you're going to have a flying accident you want it on the way into cleveland, not out. so that's a terrible thing to say about a city so i'm rooting for them. >> i'm appalled you can't pic pa side. we're morally obligated to pick the cubs. i pick the designated hitter. >> 600 days he had to face major league pitching. >> shriver for president. >> woodruff: mark shields, david brooks, thank you.
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>> woodruff: finally, a newshour essay. as we just discussed, this presidential campaign has raised a lot of questions about how women are seen and discussed. at the end of the first debate, hillary clinton mentioned former miss universe alicia machado. during her reign, pageant owner donald trump repeatedly commented on machado for gaining weight. yet another example of size consciousness in our society. tonight, fashion guru tim gunn shares a challenge for american designers. >> to begin, i love the american fashion industry, but it has a lot of problems. consider this: when the actress leslie jones couldn't find anything to wear to her "ghostbusters" premier, she had to call out on social media to find someone to dress her. how did that happen? would it surprise you to know that the average american woman now wears between a size 16 and
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a size 18? she is what the industry calls a plus-size woman-- a term that i would like to erase. there are more than 80 million of these women in america, and, for the past three years, they have increased their spending on clothes faster than their straight-size counterparts. but many designers refuse to make clothes for them. they pretend that they don't even exist. i've spoken to many people in the industry about this, and the overwhelming response is, "i'm not interested in her." they say the plus-size woman is complicated, different and difficult, and that no two size 16s are alike. let's de-code that. the fashion industry works from standards established decades ago. habits are hard to break. from the runway, to magazines, pictures of how clothes are supposed to look-- how women are supposed to look-- are set. and it all revolves around thinness. for decades, models have trotted down the runway with bodies that
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are completely unattainable for most women. yet we've been conditioned to think that's what looks good. there is no reason why larger women can't look just as fabulous as all other women. it's a design issue, and not a customer issue. the key is the following, it's the harmonious balance of silhouette, proportion and fit. right now, most plus size designs make the body look larger, with box pleats and shoulder pads. trust that i'm not trivializing the task; it's challenging. designs need to be reconceived, not just sized up. and done right, our clothing can create an optical illusion that helps us look taller and slimmer. but done wrong, we look worse than if we were, well, naked. plus-size women deserve fashion, and they deserve choices. i'm not looking for solutions from high-end designers, because it's a given that they don't want their precious brands tarnished by the likes of a size 16. this message is for more
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accessible designers. it's time to step up to the plate. furthermore, why aren't retailers demanding that this be done? the retailers have plenty of leverage, as in: marc jacobs, if you want to continue to own the current space that you have in our store, then we also need clothing for our larger market. 14+ is now the shape of women in this nation, and designers need to wrap their creative minds around that. i profoundly believe that women of every size can look great. and in this time of inclusiveness, why should 80 million women be marginalized? designers, make it work. >> woodruff: here, here it's about time. coming up later tonight pbs: reporters who have been on the campaign trail from day one take stock of the race with just 11 days left. that's on tonight on "washington week." on pbs newshour saturday: there is a new wave of manufacturing
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in south carolina, but are the jobs good for workers? that's tomorrow night on pbs newshour weekend. and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. have a great weekend. thank you and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: lincoln financial is committed to helping you take charge of your future. >> supporting social entrepreneurs and their solutions to the world's most pressing problems-- skollfoundation.org. >> and the william and flora hewlett foundation, helping people build immeasurably better lives. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions
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