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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. >> sreenivasan: and i'm hari sreenivasan. >> woodruff: on the newshour tonight-- >> it is time for us to come together as one united people. >> woodruff: the voters have spoken. donald j. trump is the president-elect of the united states. now, the country looks for a path forward. >> we have seen that our nation is more deeply divided than we thought, but i still believe in america, and i always will. >> sreenivasan: plus, we bring together a variety of voices to reflect what a trump presidency means for the nation. >> woodruff: then, a view from abroad-- how the rest of the world is reacting to trump's win. >> there has also been a series of comments from china about the fact that this makes american democracy look rather peculiar
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>> and with the ongoing support of these institutions: >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: hillary clinton summed up her crushing loss to donald trump today, saying, "this is painful, and will be for a long time." as for the new president-elect, he stayed out of sight after claiming victory in the wee hours. that left the national stage today to clinton, for perhaps one last time. the sting of their shocking loss was visible on the faces of clinton supporters and staffers in new york this morning, as she conceded defeat: >> last night, i congratulated donald trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. i hope that he will be a successful president for all americans. we have seen our nation is more deeply divided than we thought,
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but i still believe in america, and i always will. and if you do, then we must accept this result and then look to the future. donald trump is going to be our president. we owe him an open mind and a chance to lead. >> woodruff: the concession came hours after trump was declared the winner, with more than the 270 electoral votes needed for election-- though clinton led late today in the popular vote. she urged supporters, especially young people and women, not to lose heart. >> i've had successes and i've had setbacks. sometimes really painful ones. many of you are at the beginning of your professional, public and political careers-- you will have success and setbacks too. this loss hurts, but please never stop believing that fighting for what's right is
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worth it. ( applause ) i know, i know we have still not shattered that highest and hardest glass ceiling, but someday, someone will, and hopefully sooner than we might think. >> woodruff: roughly nine hours earlier, president-elect trump had declared victory, applauding his opponent and calling for national unity. >> hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country. i mean that very sincerely. ( applause ) now it's time for america to bind the wounds of division; we have to get together. to all republicans and democrats and independents across this
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nation, i say it is time for us to come together as one united people. >> woodruff: trump also reprised some of the themes of his campaign, hinting at potential priorities for his coming administration: >> i've spent my entire life and business looking at the untapped potential in projects and in people all over the world. that is now what i want to do for our country. the forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer. >> woodruff: president obama had gone all out to make clinton his successor, but with the question decided, he announced he will meet with trump, tomorrow. >> the presidency and the vice presidency is bigger than any of us. so i have instructed my team to follow the example that president bush's set eight years
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ago, and to work as hard as we can to make sure this is a successful transition for the president-elect. because we are now all rooting for success in uniting and leading the country. >> woodruff: like clinton, mr. obama had argued trump was unfit for the white house. today, he urged americans to accept the result: >> we try hard to persuade people that we are right. and then people vote. and then, if we lose, we learn from our mistakes. we do some reflection. we lick our wounds, we brush ourselves off, we go back in the arena. we try harder next time. >> woodruff: the election outcome brought out strong feelings from both sides overnight. outside trump tower in new york: >> we've had eight years of a liberal person telling us that
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middle america was nothing and tonight they came and said, "you know what, we are-- we are america." >> woodruff: ...and in washington, outside the white house itself: >> as a gay, black and latino man, i'm scared. it sucks. this is not the way that i envisioned america in 2016 to be, at all. >> woodruff: but republican leaders in congress, who kept their distance from trump, embraced the result today. >> look at what a unified republican government can get you. >> woodruff: in wisconsin, house speaker paul ryan lauded the on-going republican majorities in congress, and put supporters of president obama's health care law on notice: >> this health care law, charles, is not a popular law. this health care law is collapsing under its own weight. and so, to your specific question about repealing and replacing obamacare, this obama vetoed. now we have president trump coming, who is asking us to do this. so with unified republican government, we can fix this, fix these problems.
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>> woodruff: the republican leader in the senate, mitch mcconnell, was also out today, after having little to say about trump during the campaign. >> well, i know he's really happy we shall have a republican majority. and we look forward to working with him. i think most of the things he's likely to advocate, we're going to be enthusiastically for. where we have differences of >> woodruff: now, the president- elect has 73 days to work on his agenda in congress-- and his transition-- before he takes office, on january 20. >> sreenivasan: our john yang and jeffrey brown spent the final days on the road following the trump and clinton campaigns, and join us now from where it all came to an end last night, in new york. jeff brown, you were there at the celebration last night and toot you were at the trump tower. what did you see and who did you talk to? >> brown: i was at trump tower. things calmed down this afternoon. last night, was more dramatic.
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this afternoon was a classic new york scene, lots of people gawking across the street. we were all held across the street. some demonstrators anti-trump, a few trump supporters were there. cops say, you know, take your photos and move on, folks, that kind of situation. the most dramatic thing was, in front of the trump tower where i think i counted seven or eight very large dump trucks filled with sand, those are obviously for protection against explosives. something tells you about the world we live in today. i can't help but reflect as i was there again going back to thinking about last night, the surreal nature of much of this, to be looking at trump tower, the wealth of fifth avenue, gucci is in the bottom floor of trump tower, to think about how this wealthy new york businessman somehow managed to connect with so many americans and is now our president elect. >> woodruff: jeff, you were
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telling us that today you reached out to connect with some of the people, trump supporters you met when you were following him on the campaign traivment tell us about that. >> well, i did, judy, being there last night, i can't help but think some of the people i was with in the room did not think what happened would happen. i don't think they expected what we saw. i went back to talk to some of the people i had met over the last week thinking to myself that a i was surprised by last night. but when i go back and think about people i talked to and what i saw, i'm much less surprised. i talked to the head of the north carolina federation of republicanwomen and she went directly to obamacare. you mentioned that in you lead-in piece. she said people are opening envelopes with a much higher premium at the same moment they were opening their absentee ballot to vote and there was a
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disconnect. people just decided they did not want more of the same. i talked to ann seltzer, the pollster in iowa. she said it was really clear in iowa, the trade issue was resonating. you drive along the roads in iowa, you see factories closed, towns dried up. i talked to her about iowa when i was there, but it was clear that connected much further up into the midwest and i talked to jeff coffman from the iowa republican committee and he just said it came down to americans looking at two imperfect candidates but looking and feeling like the best chance of having real change was through donald trump. >> sreenivasan: thanks, jeff. i also want to check in with john yang. the mood looked almost like a funeral today at least from what we could see on tv where hillary clinton and her supporters were. >> yang: well that was not just supporters, that was senior staff. those were the staffers from the hillary for america organization from the office in brooklyn and
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it was absolutely shell shocked in there. no one saw this coming, that i could talk to. everyone i asked them when theyy first got the senses of trouble when they were going in, and they all said it was not until well into the night last night that they started to get the sense that things were not going as anticipated. i tried to engage them and tried to find out what do you think happened? what do you think if you had done this earlier in michigan, if you had done that in another state, and they just waved me off. one of them said i have never been less interested in talking about this than now. >> woodruff: john, just quickly, there was some comment today about the fact that hillary clinton waited until this morning to give her speech. what was the thinking behind that? >> yang: one, practical. they had to get out of the javits center at 2:00 a.m. this
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morning, there was another event moving in and they had to tear down that elaborate setup and set up for the national association of broadcasters. the other thing, they really weren't ready. they had to look at the races that were still open, look and try to figure out where the votes were, whether they had a shot in any of the states that were still open and also, quite frankly, i don't think that she -- that hillary clinton was emotionally or psychologically ready to give that speech last night. >> sreenivasan:. sreenivasan: gong and jeffrey brown joining us from new york. thank you very much. >> woodruff: the presidential race is decided, and republicans will still control both houses of congress, with slightly smaller majorities. in the senate, republicans won at least 51 seats, and they're favored to win a runoff in louisiana next month. democrats added two more senate seats, including new hampshire. democrat maggie hassan defeated kelly ayotte, the republican
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incumbent. over in the house, republicans won at least 238 seats. that's down nine from their current number. >> sreenivasan: we dig in now on what we learned from the presidential results, and what voters said leaving the polls. we turn to lisa desjardins, who is joined once again by amy walter of the cook political report. >> desjardins: amy walter, nine hours we were here together last night. imagine seeing each other again so soon. >> i never want to leave her. >> desjardins: thank you for joining us. >> of course. >> desjardins: america is becoming more diverse. we have been talking a lot about race going into this election. that was supposed to help hillary clinton, but what actually happened? >> what we saw from the exit polls is a couple of things. first, donald trump did a little bit better than mitt romney did among white voters. >> desjardins: but not by a whole lot. >> by one point, you will see mitt romney 20 points, donald trump 21 points. but another side of the tore is the african-american and latino percentage clinton got winning
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by 80 and 36% but not the margins that barack obama got. and there is another story in there as well, and i think that we look at white voters. we have been dividing white voters into these different groups and we've talked a lot about white college educated voters. these are the voters the clinton campaign thought would tip the victory to her. she was going to get a combination of the obama coalition, the younger more diverse voters as well as the suburban white women who lived in and around big cities. she did better than barack obama. >> and this is specifically among white women. >> donald trump did eight points better among those without a college degree. she performed 12 points better, he was 8 points better and it showed up on the map. >> desjardins: so what you're saying here is she did well with traditional democratic obama coalition force bus just not as well as president obama. >> not as well as president
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obama. >> desjardins: and did they show up for her as well? they're saying she didn't get as high a percentage as those who came to the polls, but did many hispanics come out or did whites have a hiring turnout? >> i was digging into one state in particular which was michigan, and it was clear detroit didn't turn out at the level for her that it did for barack obama. on top of that, she did much worse in some of the ex-urban or rural parts of the state, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania all tell the same story. >> desjardins: that's what i wanted to get to. i think that was th the biggest surprise was the blue wall of hillary clinton's. maybe there never was a wall this year. >> i said on election night if you told me going into this election that a democrat would win virginia and colorado, i would have said well, that candidate will probably win the nomination.
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those are two of the closest states last time and what i would not expect, of course, is wisconsin and michigan, two states that have gone for democrats since 1988 would flip to republican, and a lot of that is built on this, whichever states have more women who graduated from college, those who have fewer women who graduated from college, when you look at the numbers in those states, you can see that, in wisconsin and michigan, yeah, it was a blue wall, it was a blue wall for democrats when democrats were doing better among white voters and specifically white voters who didn't live in urban areas, or white voters who didn't have a college education. >> desjardins: so all of this is about demographics but i wonder, amy, is the point that last night is not about demographics, that there is something else going on? >> that's absolutely true. i think a lot of us in the business got really whetted to this idea of -- wedded to this idea of demographics especially when we watched barack obama in 2008 and 2012 with this amazing
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analytics team that told us you could look at the demographics of an electorate and understand where they were going to vote. >> desjardins: it's mathematical. >> it's all about math, but also it's about message. barack obama had a message, it was hope and change. he had the auto bailout. he was working for people. hillary clinton didn't have that message. it didn't address the rising anxiety and frustration and anger that's been brewing there, the time for change thing. donald trump did. >> desjardins: i look forward to what you have next week in your analysis. >> thank you. >> woodruff: for more on donald trump's stunning upset and what it means, we are joined by ellen fitzpatrick, presidential historian and author of the book "the highest glass ceiling;" matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union; j.d. vance, author of the book "hillbilly elegy;" elizabeth mccoy, former lieutenant
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governor of new york and an economic adviser to the trump campaign; stefanie brown james, she's the former director of african american outreach for president obama's 2012 campaign; and ali noorani, executive director of the national immigration forum. and we welcome all of you to the "newshour". i just want to go around the group first and ask you just to give me a sentence, starting with you, matt schlapp, on your reaction today. what do you think about these results? >> well, i have the to say i feel a bit vindicated. it's been a tough campaign i think for both sides. it's been grueling. the word i kept using was "raw." i think nobody expected or very few people expected for trump to just explode in the electoral college like he did, and it's a fantastic night for anybody who wanted change in washington. >> woodruff: stefanie brown
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james? >> i think "raw" is actually a great question -- i mean, a great response that matt gave. a lot of people that are in my community are feeling very raw today because the wounds that donald trump opened when he had so many disparaging remarks against minorities, against women, we continue to have those wounds really rubbed into today with him now being the president, and a lot of us are wondering how do we tell our children that a person who can be, you know, a bully, who can talk badly about women, is now the president of our country? it was elizabeth mccoy? >> americans don't hate rich people. they would like to be rich and donald trump's proposals to lift everyone by increasing prosperity, more jobs, more take holm pay really resounded. >> woodruff: ali noorani? i think the trump victory tapped an emotional nerve so i
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would capture this as a very emotional day. when we're talking to people across the latino, the asian community and their allies across the broad american public, there are a lot of raw emotions. some obviously in favor to have the trump win and others really wondering where we're all going. >> woodruff: j.d. vance, where are you tad? >> well, i think it's remarkable how wrong the conventional wisdom was. it was utterly shocking that donald trump won to people who live on the coast, but to people who live in the areas i come from, it was utterly predictable, and that suggests something really broken about our political culture. >> woodruff: ellen fitzpatrick? >> well, i was surprised the polling with you so inaccurate, in some sense, and i was also -- i really thought having, as an historian, studied the history of women's quest for the american presidency over a long period of time since victoria
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woodhall ran for presidency first, that hillary clinton was going to break through the glass ceiling this time. i had that expectation. i was quite stunned. >> sreenivasan: matt schlapp, what's the message all the millions of voters who voted for trump, what are they sending? >> i feel like they feel like they're cut out of what's happening in washington. they feel like they're cut out of the economic opportunities that americans always felt was a part of the american dream. you know, you don't have your real income, your take-home pay increase for a decade or a decade and a half, it makes you awfully discouraged. then when you see other things in society changing so rapidly and you think government is ineffective and incapable of taking steps, appropriate steps to make sure that america can lead, lead on the international stage and lead the international economy, i think that was so much of this. but i think it was also -- look, it was a repudiation -- i think
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the voters like president obama, he has very high approvals, i give him credit for that, but i do think his policies have hurt more people. you can see that by the poverty statistics, and i think this was a bit of repudiation of obamacare and his policies. i also think hillary's corruption, she could never get through that. look at all the exit polls, they're just astonishing. the voters really made a judgment on hillary clinton's ethics. >> sreenivasan: stefanie brown james, i wanted to ask, that message that those voters are sending, counter that with the message that the hillary clinton campaign was sending and why didn't her message, if she had one that was clear, prevail? >> i think that was a major challenge in that a lot of people especially in the black or latino community did not feel hillary clinton had a direct enough message for them to explain why she was the right choice, not just based off experience, but what it was that she was going to do for these communities to continue to
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uplift them if she became elected president. one of the challenges that i have been saying for a long time is that, you know, a campaign is won by your infrastructure and your ground game and, unfortunately, what we didn't see enough from the clinton campaign was a strong enough ground game to reach out to voters, to get realtime, real information from people who you were asking for their votes to be able to determine how best to continue to engage them and i think the clinton campaign and the democrats relied too heavily on president obama to turn out the base of voters they needed to get hillary clinton the win, and what we saw was that enough effort was not put in to make sure that those voters who needed to go to the polls in strong numbers, african-american women, youth, latinos, it just wasn't enough. >> i'd like to jump if on the issue of the ground game because i drew the opposite conclusion, that this election really demonstrated the emphasis on the ground game is now obsolete. donald trump had virtually no
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ground game, although the rnc had something of a ground game. he spent less than half as much winning this presidency as his opponent hillary clinton did, and i have to say the taxpayers are hoping that he will be as effective at getting his money's worth as president as he was as a candidate. >> woodruff: go ahead, stefanie. >> they were talking to two different audiences with two different tactics. if you are drawing on concerns of voters who are very much concerned that the america they know is taken over by people who don't look like them, that's an emotional appeal that won't be the same as for black voters who you need to knock on their doors and have conversation about why they need to vote for hillary clinton. it's not why they shouldn't vote for donald trump but why you
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should vote for hillary clinton. you needed to have that ground game and unfortunately that didn't happen in strong enough numbers. >> woodruff: ali noorani, was it a case of hillary clinton not getting that message across or was it that donald trump's appeal was just to powerful it overwhelmed whatever hillary clinton was doing? >> well, when you look at the numbers, i mean, hillary's message resonated in urban areas but donald trump clearly tapped into a nerve across suburban and rural america that we haven't seen tapped in such a powerful way before. he overperformed what romney was able to do in 2012 and able to run up those margins. so i think at the end of the day this was an election not just about an emotion but an emotion anxiety, anxiety triggered by economic and cultural fears. as we have been thinking about this over the last day, this is a moment where -- >> woodruff: this is the immigration forum. >> right, at the forum, looking at the election as one of culture and values and what it means to be an american. in the last few months, a lot of trump voters wanted to see a
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solution in terms of immigration, they want to see greater regulation, stronger border, but some of their solutions actually are different from what the candidate put forward. so i think donald trump has an incredible challenge to translate his campaign promises into a consensus building policy. >> woodruff: betsy mccoy, do americans have something to fear when it comes to this gap between what donald trump said on the campaign trail versus what he might do as president? you see the social conversations today that there's a huge group of people, whether women, minorities, immigrants, who are concerned that they don't know where they stand with the new president. >> yes, well, actually, i found most of his message quite unifying because the emphasis was on prosperity. i did want to touch upon something one of our contributors said a moment ago about women and failing to break the glass ceiling, and here's how i see this -- hillary clinton was urging voters to
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make history, but a lot of voters, particularly women, had trouble with her history, and she was portraying herself as a feminist, as a glass ceiling breaker, but, in fact, in the eyes of many women, especially women closer to hillary clinton's own age, she had gotten where she was primarily on her husband's coattails. she was less a susan b. anthony and more an adita. so they found this convincing and millennial women out there every day competing with men don't see the issue. >> woodruff: ellen snenl. i think this -- >> woodruff: ellen fitzpatrick? >> i think this kind of rhetoric and exaggeration that has really informed this entire campaign does very little to elevate the political process, and it's very unfortunate, it was amazing last night to see donald trump, who had bee describing hillary clinton as crooked and corrupt, in a matter of a moment was
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describing her as a fine and dedicated public servant, once he had won the election. so there was a kind of barbarism all the way around, i think, in this political campaign in which the issues really were boiled down to very small sound bytes. the impact of mass media on presidential elections, a process in television which really began in 1960, is reaching its logical conclusion here, and i think the public is not well served by it, frankly. >> woodruff: j.d. vance, in your book "hillbilly elegy," you deal, of course, with white working class americans, many of whom you write about feeling forgotten and disrespected. what do you think they are looking for donald trump to do, and do you think he can deliver? just answer the first part. what do you think they're looking for from him?
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>> with well, the first thing that i think they're looking for they've already gotten which is a since of vindication that they predicted they knew that the media was corrupt, that they were lying about the outcome of the election and donald trump really proved them right in some ways. so i think there should be soul searching from the press who predicted trump would lose handedly and that didn't happen and that corrodes some of the trust that a lot of folks have back home in the mainstream press. >> woodruff: if i could interrupt for a second, that was based on polls pretty universalsly showing hillary clinton ahead because we don't do our own polling. go ahead, please. >> of course. i'm not trying to be hypercritical of the press, but i think even the polls suggested a fair amount of volatility and there was a certain degree of certainty, even though i don't think that certainty was necessarily supported by the polls that suggested hillary clinton was slightly ahead but not very comfortably ahead as a lot of folks talked about. but i think what people want to see from the trump presidency is
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fundamentally they want to see a more repaired and better path to the middle class. what a lot of folks feel and some of the other commenters mentioned is there isn't a very clear way for someone who's working class, middle income, to get ahead in 20th century america. that implicates our education system and our local and regional economies and i think folks will expect trump to fix a lot of those things. but of course it's a really tall order and it's not going to happen overnight. >> sreenivasan: matt schlapp, sometimes they say campaigning is the easy part, governing is the hard part. as j.d. vance said, there is a lot of expectations people have, a lot of people who put trump into office, they want to see results. technically speaking, no excuses. congress, both house and the senate are republican as well as the white house. what is the trump deliverable, the first day, first 100 days, first year? >> yeah, you know what? it's going to be time for us to put up or shut up. you know, it's hard to reverse
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all of the problems we've seen in the economy that we've seen with these workin class voters, these blue collar voters that turned out in droves for donald trump. but there are easy things we can do. our corporate tax structure is a disaster and many of us who are small business people actually pay at higher rates than corporations. we have some of the highest corporate taxes in the globe and what we're seeing is corporations are leaving america for the sole reason of taxes. second of all, we need to do something about our regular story structure. look at climate change. the impact of chasing after regulating carbon dioxide has shed our economy of manufacturing jobs and additional energy jobs. we all know about the war on coal. we can all have our opinions on things like change but we can't disagree on the fact that it has shed so many jobs in these communities and states, states that donald trump did very well in. so republicans of which i'm a proud member of that party,
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being in control of congress, although we don't have 60 votes in the senate and it's always important to say that, and there is still going to be bipartisanship on these things, we should do something on taxes, regulatory structure and be more competitive internationally. then the investments starting to flow into our economy, i think middle class america will be well served by that and then of course a fix of obamacare. >> woodruff: stefanie brown james, you started out by talking about raw feelings in the african-american community, the communities of people of color in this country. if this principal focus of a new president donald trump is on economic issues like we just heard matt schlapp and betsy mccoy describe, does that in some way assure, assuage some of the concerns you expressed? >> i mean, definitely, you know, there is no doubt about that, you know, communities of color are very much concerned about the economy, being able to make sure that they have enough food
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to give their families, so poverty is also a big issue. but the challenge comes down to respect, and if there is a president who you feel does not fundamentally see you as an equal to other americans, does not respect you, does not respect your life, then it doesn't matter what policy position they put forward or what plans they put forward because the humanity -- you feel your humanity is not being seen by your own president or your own government. but to be quite frank, you know, i'm excited to see what the republican congress is going to do, what this new republican president is going to do, because i do think that it is time to show up and to prove that the policies that they say they want to put forth that's going to, you know, help the middle class, that it's going to actually make a difference. i think people conveniently like to forget that, you know, president obama inherited a doomsday economy, so i want to see what this republican-led government is going to do to get us into bert shape.
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>> sreenivasan: al noorani, i want to pick up on something she said, how do you get these communities to feel respected? >> i think we're in for an interesting ride. i do not think every person who voted for donald trump is a xenophobe or racist. on the other hand, i think some of the things donald trump said over the course of the campaign gave voice and permission to people to do some very, very terrible things. just today i saw news of a swastika painted on walls in philadelphia. so we'll unfortunately see these kinds of things as we move forward through this administration. president-elect trump when he becomes president trump will have an opportunity to heal this country and take that permission away. >> on the respect question, i think that's so right but i think this boomeranged on hillary clinton. we focused so much on donald trump's rhetoric, but when she called donald trump supporters a basket of deporables, you can see it in the exits, it destroyed her with these voters and when staff in leaked e-mails
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called catholics and christians backwards, you know, this idea of rhetoric out of control is something that hurt hillary clinton in this race. >> woodruff: j.d. vance, how do you see this playing out? >> i think, first of all, donald trump and the republican party has to recognize obviously even though they won the election, if you look at the numbers among black and latino voters, this is not a long-term coalition they can build on. so i think it comes down to respect, to being gracious, to showing compassion for the problems of the black and latino communities and i really hope donald trump takes the ball that's within his court and tries to go after those voters and shows compassion and offers them something substantive to get excited about republican and conservative policy. >> woodruff: a final word from ellen fitzpatrick on bringing the country together. is it possible? >> of course, it's possible, judy. this was a very close election, and, in fact, i believe hillary
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clinton, at least the latest count, shows she won the popular vote. there was a lop-sided vote in the electoral college as there often is. so we remain a very divided electorate, and it will be, of course, an imperative of the new president to try to address those divisions and to bring the country together in order to govern. this is not "the apprentice" and in four years you're fired if you're not able to address the concerns of the american citizens. so it's a tall order for someone without experience in politics or military service, and it's a new model. we'll get to see how it plays out. >> woodruff: well, the conversations are just beginning. this is only the first day after we've learned the results of the election. thanks for joining us. ellen fitzpatrick, matt schlapp, j.d. vance, stefanie brown james, betsy mccoy and ali
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noorani, we thank you. >> sreenivasan: now, the view from overseas. the election was watched closely, both with anticipation and fear, and as chief foreign affairs correspondent margaret warner reports, today the rest of the world awoke to an america profoundly changed. >> reporter: the stunning news ricocheted around the world-- from tehran to tokyo, istanbul to berlin. met with apprehension by some, and applause by others. in moscow, the russian parliament erupted in cheers at the announcement, and president vladimir putin was among the first to congratulate trump, who had lauded putin as a strong leader. nathan hodge is a "wall street journal" correspondent in moscow. he says there is glee over the divisive u.s. election: >> it's a way that, basically, that russia, which has seen lots of scolding from the u.s. and the west about the way that it conducts elections and the
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authoritarian tendencies of its leadership, they can now point to the u.s. and say, "look you guys, you're not so great yourselves." >> reporter: russia also left its imprint on the election, with allegations that it engineered the hacking of democratic party emails to embarrass hillary clinton. all of this has nato allies nervous. its member states-- especially in eastern europe-- rely on the u.s. as a counterweight to moscow, and guarantor of their security. alliance leaders made clear today they are looking for trump to maintain a tough line with putin after russia's annexation of crimea, and to abandon his campaign talk of putting conditions on the u.s. commitment to nato. the president of latvia says he's willing to give the incoming president some time. >> ( translated ): of course, during the campaign, trump came out with many blunt statements on many issues, but we should remember that it was a pre- election time. let's see what the
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administration of the president will look like. >> reporter: but in france, president francois hollande said the result "opens a period of uncertainty." reaction in nationalist quarters of europe was exultant. newshour special correspondent malcolm brabant spoke to us from copenhagen: >> right wing leaders across europe are basically seeing the trump victory as a validation of their policies. you've got people like marine le pen, the leader of the french national front, she's going to a presidential election in six months time. the latest polls give her about 30% of the vote, and she will see what happened in america as being encouragement for french voters, saying, "if it can happen in the u.s., why can't it happen here?" >> reporter: that nationalism already triumphed in britain. prime minister theresa may says her nation's "special relationship" with the u.s. remains. she came to office last summer after british citizens voted for "brexit"-- to abandon the
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european union. trump embraced the move, calling himself "mr. brexit" at one point. also in question is america's participation in the paris climate accord. trump has called climate change a hoax, and while it would take four years to formally pull out of theagreement, there are no sanctions in place for ignoring it. german chancellor angela merkel says she watched the u.s. election results "with trepidation," but will work with trump. trump has called merkel "insane" for taking in large numbers of refugees. the center of that refugee crisis remains syria, now in its sixth year of civil war. people in aleppo, locus of the fighting now, say their low hopes for u.s. protection remain the same.
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>> reporter: elsewhere in the middle east, there's unease over trump's campaign calls to ban many muslims from entering the u.s. egyptian president abdel fattah al-sisi was one the first world leaders to telephone congratulations overnight-- but others in egypt struck a different tone: whether he admits it or not, he's afraid of arabs. >> reporter: on the other hand, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu spoke with trump today, calling him "a great friend of israel." his education minister put it more plainly, saying trump's victory means, "the era of the palestinian state is over." the israeli government sharply opposed the u.s. nuclear deal with iran, and trump has suggested he'll try to re-negotiate the lifting of sanctions it provided. borzou daraghi, middle east correspondent for buzzfeed in istanbul, said that will be difficult. >> now the u.s. could, in theory, ramp up unilateral
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sanctions, but it never really ramped them down except for the ones that were kind of imposed by the executive. the ones that were imposed by congress were still in place and remain in place. >> reporter: the president-elect also wants to revisit major trade deals, such as the 12-nation "trans-pacific partnership", which has yet to be ratified. china's president xi jinping telephoned trump himself today, voicing hope for "non-conflict" and "non-confrontation." u.s. tensions with beijing have ratcheted up over china's aggressive moves in the contested waters of the south china sea. gillian tett, u.s. managing editor for the "financial times", in new york, spoke of the chinese reaction. >> there is certainly a lot of questioning and a lot of concern. there has also been a series of comments from china about the fact that this makes american democracy look rather peculiar at best. >> reporter: closer to home, trump's victory was met with alarm in mexico city-- given his talk of building a border wall and making mexico pay for it.
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the mexican peso crashed overnight, hitting levels not seen for more than 20 years. for the pbs newshour, i'm margaret warner. >> woodruff: heading into last >> woodruff: but in the wake of a huge upset, there are many questions about what the mainstream media missed. we are joined by margaret sullivan is the media columnist for the "washington post;" steve deace is a popular conservative radio talk show host in iowa; and jim rutenberg is a media columnist for the "new york times." and we welcome all of you to the "newshour". margaret sullivan, you're sitting here next to me. i'm going to start with you. we heard j.d. vance say in the previous discussion in the program, we saw tht news media,
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he said, lying about what was going to happen in this election based on the polls, and i pointed out we depend on the polls but we don't do the polls ourselves. but how good or poor a job did the media do this time? >> i don't think the mainstream media was lying about what was going to happen. i think we missed the overarching story to a large extent and that is a failure on our part, but it was not the result of, you know, a plan or a lie or anything as quite as venal as that. >> sreenivasan: steve deace, i want to ask how much is a disconnect between the people who write the stories and the people out living them in the middle of the country? >> i think it's a massive disconnect. i'm someone who used to work at a major city newspaper considered mainstream or liberal media. i did a lot of work at u.s.a. today and msnbc who are the same because i like to engage people with different ideas than me and
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maybe persuade them. but how many people here at pbs are pro-life, go to church or mass once a week, how many voted for trump? and i think there is a lot of talk of a lack of diversity. there is a huge lack of ideological and cultural diversity in our newsrooms and that's creating a massive disconnect nationwide. >> woodruff: connect those two things. we heard margaret sullivan speak about how the press missed the story, and we hear steve deace saying how disconnected we are from the rest of the country. how do you see all of this? >> well, i kind of, in a way, agree with all of the above. it's indisputable that america's news rooms, especially mainstream, are not diverse with ideological opinion. but a lot of journalists don't consider themselves ideological, though. much of the country doesn't believe that these days. but i do believe we need people with different backgrounds. but mainstream news rooms aren't going to look for people with
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ideological viewpoints. the editorial page should but you need people who are immersed in their thinking. the one thing i want to argue is this isn't about geography. it's not about the middle of the country. write this today, it's a state of mind. there are people on long island who are hard-core trump voters who i don't think are understood by most mainstream news reporters who live amongst them. so it's a psychology as much as geography. >> sreenivasan: margaret sullivan, what about the idea there is aftermedicatio affirma- affirmation bias in the press and we went along with the polls because the prediction was more palatable. >> this is the year of magical thinking on the part of a lot of journalists. we thought that it would be -- it was unthinkable that someone who was insulting people, saying
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racist and xenophobic and sexist and misogynist things could become the president. so we didn't really -- many of us didn't really deal with the idea that this could the case. and the polls were close enough and the election forecasts were often saying that hillary clinton would, you know, win and, you know, she was probable by 85% or something like that. so there were a lot of factors working for us. i think that we did get out into the different parts of the country and do some reporting. did we do enough? did we listen hard enough? i wonder about that. >> woodruff: steve deace, you brought up a moment ago journalists, the whole disconnect point. you know, we've strove, i think, in news rooms for years to become, as we like to put it, more like america, to be more diverse, but i hear you saying we've missed a whole chunk of the country in our effort to be
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diverse. >> i don't think there is any question about this. i read something in l.a. times film critics said a year ago when american sniper was the number one movie and he said the only people surprised this is a number one movie are the people who live on the two coasts and haven't visited the states in between. i was disturbed by #trump, but it disturbed me to hear hillary clinton say i was her enemy, the wikileaks e-mails calling christians backwards, people saying w we should have men in bathrooms next to our dawmpleghts i don't fault the media that said trump couldn't get elected because will have hpvo her comments. the backlash hillary's comments caused her we saw in the vote
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total last night. >> woodruff: jim? the lack of reaction, this is where we see the disconnect, how we ask ourselves and including some never trump reps, did the incendiary comment from mr. trump not create backlash and how did he get elected in spite of it all and that goes to the extent of not understanding the level of anger in other parts of the country and certain people everywhere and they care much more about the ills that mr. trump was promising to cure than they cared about whatever personal traits we were writing about in our coverage. >> sreenivasan: margaret sullivan what about the potential of almost an observe b effect having jim's paper the "new york times" or "the washington post" having these predictions on a daily basis seeing hillary clinton is going to bin which 92% probability or 85, does that end up having a confirmation effect over time saying, well, maybe i don't need to go out and vote or this is really the narrative anyway, am i countering that? am i challenging that narrative with a different type of story?
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>> i think when you walk into the voting booth, it's a very emotional issue and i believe that, for many people, the idea of the clintons back in the white house was something when they actually walked into the voting booth they just didn't want to countenance and that you can talk about experience or inexperience or incendiary comments or stronger together, make america great again, but a lot of times it's a purely emotional issue, and it speems to how you feel -- it speaks to how you feel about your life and the direction of the country and i think that's what we saw happening. >> woodruff: steve deace, it's such a big subject to look at ho the media and apt interact, but if -- and a president interact, but if there were mistakes made in the campaign, how can the media be closer to the mark in approaching the trump presidency? >> people misunderstood fox's original appeal when it was launched 20 years ago.
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it's ledge original appeal is it looked at institutions of america, the military, churches, family, it did not look or view them with instantaneous suspicion because most americans tonight and frankly a lot of people who live in more prokingive enclaves do. so i think treating those institutions with a lot of flyover country or as the other guests pointed out long island would considered to be americana but to dea with them objectively i think that is key and i also feel the media made a mistake with trump that we conservatives made with bill clinton in the '90s, we were so over the top and hysterical with our condemnations and conspiracy that when something important came along like a president lying under oath to a grand jury a lot of americans waived their hands and said you guys always cry for wolf, you almost insulated mr. trump for anything he does as president
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because they will say there goes the media again. >> woodruff: these are all conversations that will continue. thank you very much all three. steve deace, jim rutenberg, margaret sullivan, thank you. >> thank you. >> sreenivasan: in other news, proponents of legalized marijuana are celebrating tuesday's results. three states-- california, massachusetts, and nevada-- approved its recreational use. voters in florida, arkansas, and north dakota legalized pot for medical purposes. in other ballot measures: gun control initiatives passed in california, nevada and washington state; and nebraska voted to reinstate the death penalty. >> woodruff: donald trump's victory staggered the financial markets at first, but they rebounded by the time the day was done. the dow jones industrial average soared nearly 257 points to close at 18,589. the nasdaq rose 57 points, and
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the s&p 500 added 23. >> sreenivasan: and general >> woodruff: on the newshour online right now, our election analysis continues. a prominent libertarian who did and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm hari sreenivasan. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you, and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: ♪ ♪ moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> lincoln financial--
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