>> rose: welcome to the program. i'm charlie rose. the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead, week within of the trump administration. former c.i.a. director and defense secretary robert gates on the president, the criticism i., and russia. and the new documentary that offers a look into the life of the oracle of omaha, investor warren buffet. >> when i got out of the university of nebrask ai applied to harvard business school. they told me i was to be interviewed in a place near chicago. i got there, and he interviewed me for about 10 minutes. and he said, "forget it. you're not going to harvard. so now i'm thinking, what do i tell my dad? this is terrible. and it turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me.

>> rose: we'll have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you began how? >> the other side of the story. >> rose: is it luck at all or is it something else? >> 600 options. >> rose: what's the object lesson here. >> there are some opportunities. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. >> rose: this was the week president trump began work with a flurry of executive orders on health care, immigration, and building a border wall. crowds in the hundreds of thousands joined women's marchs across the nation and around the world. and in football, the atlanta falcons and new england patriots both won their conference championships to advance to the super bowl. here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days.

>> mary electoral mooreidize at 80. >> associate producer, can you believe that? >> mary tyler moore. ( applause ). >> a deadly bomb exploding in the somali capital. al shabaab is claiming responsibility. >> an active secret service agent says she won't take a bullet for president trump. >> rose: killer storms sweept south. >> georgia's governor declared a state of emergency in seven counties. >> rose: the new press secretary meets the press. >> sean spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts to that. >> alternative facts are not facts. they're falsehoods. >> rose: a new controversy over voter fraud. >> if three to five million people voted illegally, that is a scandal of astronomical proportions. >> i think the president has believed that fair while, and i think-- we'll see where we go from here. >> say-- and-- uh ♪ i'm ever woman >> rose: the women's march drew massive crowds in every

major city. >> for all the plans over the last 25 years has rocked this place, this one's for you, baby ♪ i want to rock 'n' roll all night ♪ >> the flea flicker. brady to the end zone, and it's a touchdown. >> the patriots have a date with atlanta. ♪ all the way to the great waffle china ♪ >> today, mr. trump expected to sign off on orders to begin going blg that wall. >> the meeting that president trump and the president of mexico were supposed to have next week, that's no longer on the books. >> the paperwork was filed for one of the president's first acts in office, declaring his inauguration day as the "national dave patriotic devotion." >> that was his second choice. the first air force trumpful day of frump tastic trumpiness, which i love by the way. ♪ all the way to the great wall of china ♪ >> rose: today marks week one of the trump presidency. the president acted quickly on many of his campaign promises through a series of executive actions, and he promised to

announce his pick for the supreme court this coming thursday. here with me with more on that is mike alep. he is the cofounder of the new media company axuous, and the editor of the axuous a.m. newsletter. mike, thank you for joining us. >> charlie, thanks for having me at this amazing, crazy, even surreal week. >> rose: what made it that? >> well, charlie, we know so much about this president that we didn't know a week before. so, first of all, we're seeing that they're doing beag so aggressive, energetic. this "flood the zone" approach you and i have talked about before, they're bringing it to governing in ray way i think even a lot of their supporters didn't expect. just a few minutes ago we had him announcing a great rebuilding of the military. we've had extreme vetting. we've had the mexican border. we've had torture conversation. some of the most contentious, biggest issues on the president's plate, all coming up in week one.

>> rose: what are the power centers in the white house? >> well, charlie, this is very much by design, but there are many more power centers in this white house than is typical. usually you have a strong chief of staff. that's the sun that the other planets revolve around. there are a bunch of suns here, or a bunch of planets. you have reince priebus, who is, on paper, the chief of staff, and is in charge. but there's a lot of other planets around him that have their own very strong gravitational pull, have their own access to the president. charlie, the person they call the architect, steve bannon, the president's chief strategist, whose proving to have even more juice than we realized. in axuous a.m., my newsletter, this morning, we talked about the bannon coup, because he has shown so much more juice than people expected, including him and the head of policy, steve miller. they had the largest hand in

that very aggressive, even dark inaugural address. they've had a big hand in a lot of these executive orders. they're encouraging president trump to take it to the press. just today we had the president telling telling cbn that the press was the opposition party. and finally, we had that astonishing interview that steve bannon gave to the "new york times," where he used that phrase about the press, and said that the press had been humiliated, showing that all throughout this west wing, there's a real antipathy to the press that's not just for show but is really how they feel. >> rose: so what's on the agenda for next week, week two? >> well, charlie, i know it's very much on your mind that tomorrow, saturday, the president's going to have his first phone conversation with president putin of russia. but everything next week resolves around thursday. we've been told, as you said at

the top, that's when the supreme court pick comes. and, charlie, this touches off the biggest fight that we've seen since election day. so this is a fight that's going to go on for many weeks. i'm told that the administration's goal is to get the new supreme court justice confirmed by april 1. that's right before another congressional recess, get the hearing done by the end of february, so this is going to be a vicious fight, and we're going to see all the actors that have maybe been quiet sense election day, all coming out. >> rose: president trump visited the headquarters of the central intelligence agency to mend some fences this week. it happened just days after the president attacked the intelligence community over its handling of allegations that russia influenced the election. still unanswer read questions about how the president will

deal with russia in the future. robert gates say former secretary of defense and director of the c.i.a. >> one of the things that affects moral the most at c.i.a. is the sense of feeling that what they do is valued and used. so moral going forward is to depend, i think, in terms of whether they feel like the president appreciates what they do and whether he's using what they do. and that remains to be seen. >> rose: and then there's russia. you and i have talked about it before. i sent president and you have a different view of putin upon. i mean, there's a real question about what is the relationship between putin and the president? >> i am concerned about the president's apparent unwillingness to criticize the russians. now, i think he's acknowledged -- >> when people-- hesitant to criticize. >> he's acknowledged that the

russians were behind the hacking, but in terms of russia's aggressiveness, its meddling, its interventionism, its general bullying and thuggery. >> rose: but you must have talked to him about this. i mean, because, you're a russian expert. >> well i told him -- >> what does he say when somebody with your credibility says to him, "you got it wrong about russia"? >> i told him the same thing i said at the hearing introducing rex tillerson for his nomination hearing. i said, "your administration is going to have to thread the need expel figure out how, on the one hand, to push back against putin's aggressiveness and meddling and interventionism, and at the same time, stop a continuing downward spiral in the u.s.-russian relationship that is potentially quite dangerous, but they've got to do both sides of it. they've got to thread the needle. >> rose: what does that mean

"thread the needle?" >> you have to figure out a policy that does both. you can't just be accommodating to russia and look for deals with russia. you also have to be willing to push back against putin because he is-- he is a guy who-- he has the old line used about premiere khrushchev-- what's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable. and that's putin's approach. and if you don't push back on this guy, he will take advantage. so they have to feggure out how to do both of thoz things. it's a problem. >> rose: do you believe he sees a relationship with russia as a leverage against china, some kind of-- >>y don't know, but i think-- i think that repositioning, if you do it thoughtfully and carefully, there are some opportunities to use these relationships as leverage. and where woo might have a better relationship-- you know, one of the things that president nixon and henry kissinger did so

effectively was the-- positioned the u.s. so we had a better relationship with russia and with china than they did with each other, which gave us leverage. if we could figure out a way to replicate that, that would be to our advantage. >> rose: the conservative commentator and radio host hugh hewitt was a reluctant supporter of donald trump. he eventually campaigned for him. now that the election is over, hewitt sees an opportunity to use trump's victory. he would use it to enshrine a republican majority in washington for decades to come. his book is called "the fourth way: the conservative playbook for a lasting g.o.p. majority." >> after he was nominated i supported him, happy to do so. when the judge curiel incident

happened, i announced that he was flying the party into the mountain and if he kept it up it would be like stage four cancer. he stopped. so i got back on the trump train. campaigned for him throughout the summer. llagher and some of mywith mike colleaguecolleagues from salem,r donald trump, in some swing states like pennsylvania and florida. and after "access hollywood" tweeted, "i wish you would get out of the race" i thought more was coming and worse. he didn't get out of the race. i voted for him because of the supreme court and by and large i believe, as i discussed in the book, he can transform with paul ryan, mitch mcconnell, and vice president pence, the country and create a semilast ago nothing is forever-- but a good, enduring republican majority. >> rose: and what are the conditions to do that? what are the necessary, essential ingredients of that? and what could prevent it from happening. >> scandal could prevent it from happening. the fifth chapter is about impeachment which is a reality

with this president. >> rose: it's a word already mentioned. >> and david brooks said within a year, and i i don't believe that. if the republicans lose theinous 2018, unlikely, but not impossible, they would bring impeachment under the emoluments clause. on the other hand, he had a very good start. i like the pipeline executive order, if he nominates judge gorshut, i will be very happy. >> rose: his nixon to china moment is-- >> is to allow the people here without illegal permission to stairk not to become citizens, but to-- no one could criticize him as soft on immigration, just like only nixon could go and sit with mao. donald trump can do whatever he wants on immigration, and no one will believe it's amnesty. so he's invulnerable. >> do you think he's considering that. >> i do. and i think sean spicer

telegraphed that in his press conference when he said our priority is not to go after the dacca kids. our priorities are going after people who have broken the law in the united states and represent a threat. that is actually channeling the blueprint for reform that reince priebus, the assaulted autopsy that was done four years ago, a regularization is exactly what the republicans called for. and i believe donald trump will embrace that because it makes sense. he knows the people who work in the trading. we had in to see him. they're largely latino in places like california and arizona. the drywallers are almost 100% latino americans. he understands getting reelected, and he understands building. i'm an optimist on that. >> rose: so what worries you about trump? >> he can wear us out. most presidents retreat from the headlines in periods. richard nixon for a long pfd. ronald reagan gave us one story for a day. prum flooded the zone with a

temperament that was calm, condescending at times, but nonetheless calm. if we are put on a roller coaster of daily diet of controversy, the country isn't built for that. politics is not supposed to be that important. religion, community -- >> and do you at some point wear out your welcome. >> yes, 2018 is very close at hand. he has to deliver on his promises, which he's begun, and he has to make people feel less threatened. >> rose: the rise of populism around the globe is also fueling a new wave of the anti-semitism. ber narnd henry levi, examines that in his new book, "the genius of judaism." >> there was a januaryeration of hate against israel, a stigmatization of israel, which has no other explanation than the redressing of the old hate

against the jews. this is a new form of anti-semitism, and the world has not yet found all the replies, all the appropriate replies against this new hate. this is one of the reasons why i wrote this book. this book is what? it is partly an effort to give ammunition, to give weapon weapd ammunition, moral ammunition, to those who want to fight this new trend, this new black wave of new anti-semitism. >> rose: so this is you handing them verbal, passionate rose: againsts. anti-semitism. >> against anti-semitism, and also, what does anti-semitism does? it delegitimizes israel on the ground of liberal values. i am a liberal. and i believe that as liberals, we should not condemn but praise

israel on the very ground of their values. israel has, by many asperktz lessons to give to a lot of liberals in the world, in terms of democracy, in terms of multiethnicity, in terms of the way of dealing with minorities, in terms of how to fight terrorism, how to behave in the state of war or emergency, on all these topics, israel behaves well in terms of liberal -- >> so here's my point. that's about the state of israel. but this book is called "the genius of judaism." not "the genius of israel." >> absolutely. >> rose: this is about your faith. >> absolutely. israel is the first part of the book and the secretary part of the book is devoted to my faith, yes, my creed. it is the faithave nonbeliever, because one of the things which i try to explain is that you can be a jew without believing. >> rose: not believing in? >> in god or without believing

in the sky. i think that the-- one of the aspects of the teach, the greatest master of judaism is what is required from a jew is less to believe than to study. so for me, the genius of judaism is that, the study, and the sense of the other. >> rose: warren buffet has found both fame and fortune as one of america's most successful investors. how he got there is the subject of a new documentary premiering on hbo monday night called "becoming warren buffet." >> i went into this to try to figure out who the-- who the little boy was who became the

man and the megabillionaire. and most of the films we work on ceend of begin there, begin in childhood, to try to find clothes that tell you something about how they became who they became. and my feeling that, you know, warren's famous for-- for keeping emotion out of everything. but he's a hugely emotional guy. and he's emotional just beneath the surface. and you've experienced it. i've watched you go-- ask him questions that were hard for him to answer, and we've experienced the same kind of push-back from him. but he was-- he was willing to open up to a large degree, and he was willing to have his children open up even more. >> what i saw first and foremost day in and day out was consistency. every day, we'd hear the garage door close in the house. and then like clockwork, my dad would come in the door, "i'm home." and we'd all eat dinner

together, which i think surprises a lot of people. >> rose: what's his genius? >> i think his genius is a mind that can work so fast and retain so much and mix it with a logic and a-- and a common sense that just doesn't usually get mixed together. so he's-- you know, his son howie says he's a computer, and the hard drive never fills up. but he's more than that. he's a-- he's a very sensitive man who-- who then interprets that data in a way that most people can't. >> rose: there is also this, the sense of his judgment. >> yeah. >> rose: a remarkable sense of being able to-- and to know what he knows and what he doesn't know. >> yeah. he calls it his circle of competence. and he-- he-- he-- he shows a graphic of himself standing at a baseball plate, and there's a ted williams had a box where if

the pitch came through a specific spot on that box, he would know whether he would hit a home run or hit a pop. warren knows exactly who is coming across that plate, and he makes the analogy that he doesn't have to swing. there are no strikes called, so he can stand there all day. and he does. he waits month after morning year after year, and when he's ready to swing at something he swings. so he hits the ball. >> rose: the early modernist apparent picabe died in953. did spite his contributions to the cubist movement, he struggled as an artist for most of his career. new york's museum of modern art doesn't dnt, choir one of his paints until a year after his death. now the museum is mountings its largest exhibition of his work. curatorred by anne lumdone, and

photographer aaron clar produced our report. ♪ ♪ >> francis picape, is an artist who was born in paris in 1879. his mother was french. his father was spanish. he is one of the great unknowns of the artists active in paris at the beginning of the last century. this exhibition charts picape's full career. it begins with works made in 1905 or 1906 that look like paintings by monet or alfred sicily. so picabbia article on is practicing as an appropriation artist. he didn't take his canvasses

outboards. he worked from postcard mechanical reproduction, and that is something that went on to have such an impact in the 20th century. and we wanted to introduce him as at the forefront of that sort of approach. we also wanted to highlight picabbia's engagement with film making, with theater design with music. so we have one gal reerk also, that's devoted to the stage sets and designs and the movie that he made for the ballet called "pelash" in 1924. this is a project i think that i've been working on for about five years. and so what goes into it? lots of looking. lots of traveling. lots of negotiating. and i think the ambition for this show is to set out for our new york audience that collide scopic career in full and to

give picabia's strong personality the long-overdue recognition that we believe it richly deserves. >> rose: here is a look at the week ahead. sunday is the david national football leagues annual pro bowl game in orlando. monday is the 33rd national cowboy poetry gathering in elico, nevada. tuesday is the final day to enroll for health care for 2017 on the government exchanges. wednesday is the opening of the santa barbara international film festival. thursday is the day of the national prayer breakfast in washington. friday is the day switzerland meets the united states in the first round of play in the 2017 davis cup. saturday is the day that directors guild awards are announced in beverly hills, california. and here is what's new for your

weekend. matthew mcconaughey, edgar mar teens, and bryce dallas howard are in theaters in the mining thriller "gold." >> we're talking over $30 billion. >> yeah, baby! >> rose: 21 pilots have concert dates in pittsburgh and chicago. and the 23rd annual screen actors guild awards are broadcast live on tnt, and tbs sunday night. >> remember to watch the screen actors guild awards. they'll be simulcast live sunday, january 29, on tnt and tbs. >> rose: that's "charlie rose: the week" for this week. we do not want to leave you tonight without acknowledging the passing of actress mary tyler moore. she was 80. in the 1970s, she created the character of mary richards on "the mary tyler moore show" she

inhabited the role of an unmarried career woman with humor and poignancy. she became a role model for a generation of women entering the workplace. here is mary tyler moore at the table. >> i was eager to get out on my own and prove myself worthy of somebody's attention. >> rose: and when did you do that? >> i don't think i have yet. and you know, i've got to the point where i don't think it's important anymore. i remember a quote from dorothy park who are said, "wharg people think of me is none of my business." and as long as i am respectful and mindful of other people's feelings, i think i can take that as my own motto. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by:

>> rose: welcome to the program. tonight bill gates and warren buffett together for the hour. >> einstein said shortly after the launch of what was then called the atomic bomb, he said, i know not with what weapons world war three will be fought, but world war iv will be fought with stings and stones. that probability exists. it's the number one job of the president of the united states, whichever president acknowledges, to protect us from weapons of mass destruction. the intent within organizations and even a couple of nations. it's the only real cloud on america overtime we'll solve the economic probl