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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> yang: good evening. i'm john yang. judy woodruff is away. on the newshour tonight... >> we will defeat radical islamic terrorism and we will not allow it to take root in our country. >> yang: president trump addresses troops as his immigration ban faces court challenges. then, our politics monday team takes a look at the inner workings of the trump white house. also ahead: taking the temperature of an experimental program under the affordable care act aimed at keeping costs down by changing the way hospitals deliver care. >> it allows us essentially to customize the delivery of services to specific needs and not base how we are delivering that service on exactly what is
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>> yang: a federal appeals court in california is the focus tonight in the legal war over banning travelers from seven mostly muslim nations. the flow resumed over the weekend, and today the president again defended his order. lisa desjardins begins our coverage. >> reporter: today, a continued current of more arrivals like this one at dulles airport outside of washington. families previously denied entry under president trump's travel order, now met with applause. some due to the weekend's court orders, others like brothers tareq and ammar aziz from yemen because they are green card holders who had to reschedule after confusion over their status. >> reporter: all this, following friday's ruling by federal judge james robart in seattle that
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halted several key provisions, at least temporarily. that ruling drew a tweet-storm of criticism from the president. "if something happens"-- mr. trump wrote-- "blame him and the court system." he had more to say today, at macdill air force base in tampa, florida. >> we need strong programs so that people that love us and want to love our country and will end up loving our country are allowed in. not people that want to destroy us and destroy our country. >> reporter: it was his first visit to u.s. central command-- the military wing overseeing the middle east. as he spoke about "radical islamic terror" attacks, mr. trump's sharpest criticism was about the media. >> it's gotten to a point where it's not even being reported. in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it.
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they have their reasons and you understand that. >> reporter: we asked the white house for specific examples of unreported terror attacks and did not receive a response. meantime, vice president pence defended the president's words about the seattle judge-- over the weekend on abc. >> and the president is determined to use the authority that he has under the constitution and under the law. >> reporter: the legal battle has moved fast. the justice department asked a federal appeals court over the weekend to reconsider judge robart's action, saying it "harms the public by thwarting enforcement, and second-guesses the president's national security judgment." but the attorneys general of washington state and minnesota-- who pushed for the original halt to the order-- responded back strongly. un-freezing it, they told the appeals court, would "unleash chaos", and would, once again, "separate families and strand university students and faculty". major tech firms, including uber, apple and google filed their own briefs against the travel ban, saying it will hurt
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their work forces and the economy. and, former secretaries of state john kerry and madeleine albright, also filed briefs, saying the ban will harm counter-terrorism partnerships with other nations. late today, president trump returned to washington, as the appeals court mulled its decision. >> and staff at the white house confirmed what many people are thinking, that this whole fight over the travel ban could end up at the u.s. supreme court.
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john? >> yang: we heard president trump talking about the the court case involving his immigration order. what are the officials at the now have word 16 democraticn, iefs to they filed supportiveale nks among the worst.st, shetor
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on philosophy of education, her views are extreme. >> i have every confidence that ms. devos will lead the department of education in such a way that will put our students' interests first while also strengthening the educational opportunities available to all of america's children. >> yang: the confirmation tally could come down to a tie, leaving vice president pence to cast the deciding vote-- something no other vice president has ever done in a cabinet confirmation. senior republicans are brushing aside president trump's latest remarks on russian president vladimir putin. in a fox news interview that aired sunday, he dismissed bill o'reilly's characterization of putin as a killer. the president said: "there are a lot of killers."
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and he asked, "our country's so innocent?" today, texas congressman mac thornberry-- chairman of the house armed services committee-- rejected the comparison. he said: "are we the same as putin's russia? the answer is no." in afghanistan: bad weather and snow-blocked roads are hampering rescue efforts after avalanches killed at least 119 people over the weekend. nearly 90 more were hurt. workers are trying to reach remote villages in the northern part of the country, where nearly 200 homes have been destroyed. officials say some places were buried under more than six feet of snow. the one-time presidential frontrunner in france insisted tonight he will not drop out of the race-- despite an embezzlement scandal. conservative francois fillon has plunged in the polls, opening the door to far-right leader marine le pen, who echoes president trump's populism. this evening, fillon defended himself against claims that he put relatives in high-paying government jobs with no real
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duties. >> ( translated ): what was acceptable yesterday isn't anymore today. by working with my wife and my children, i favored this collaboration of trust which today creates distrust. it was a mistake. >> yang: the first round of voting in the french presidential election will be in april. ahead of the balloting, facebook and google are teaming up with french news organizations to tackle fake news. the companies say they'll provide tools to 17 french newsrooms to help them identify and debunk false stories. facebook was criticized for not preventing false information from being re-published during the american presidential election. wall street opened the week on a quiet note. the dow jones industrial average lost 19 points to close at 20,052. the nasdaq fell three points, and the s&p 500 slipped nearly five. and boston is getting ready for a blowout celebration after new england's dramatic overtime win
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over atlanta in the super bowl. the patriots returned home this afternoon after coming from 25 points behind last night to win, 34 to 28. it's their fifth n.f.l. title the city holds a parade tomorrow. we'll take a closer look at a game for the ages, later in the program. still to come on the newshour: legal arguments for and against the immigration ban as the courts weigh in, it's politics monday-- a look at the inner workings of the white house, and much more. >> yang: now, to the constitutional showdown over president trump's controversial executive order on immigration. for the first of two looks at what's at stake, we are joined first by washington state attorney general robert ferguson from seattle. his court challenge to the ban led to this weekend's reversal.
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attorney general ferguson, thanks for joining us. if the court lifts this ban, lifts the temporary restraining order, will you appeal to the supreme court? >> well, to be crystal clear, i'll use every tool i have to make sure that this unconstitutional executive order does not stand. that said, we're confident the 9th circuit will affirm what george robart will affirm his decision to grant that t.r.o. >> yang: i assume you're anticipating if he does keep it in place that the justice will take it to the supreme court. what's your sense of how your chances would fare on the current court. >> well, i feel very confident. as i mentioned, judge r obart is a serious, well-respected judge appointed by president george w. bush and he took the significant step of granting a temporary restraining order. it's a high hurdle for a lawyer
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to meet in a courtroom to get a judge to grant a temporary tempy restraining order. despite the 9th circuit declined give a ruling a few weeks ago, we'll go to the supreme court if that's what it comes down to. >> yang: you would still have to go back for a trial on the merits before the judge in seattle, is that correct? >> yes, in order to grant the temporary restraining order one to have the criteria that the judge must conclude is the state has a high lollhood of prevailing on the merit. he's also reached the conclusion we're likely to prevail once we get to the merits before the judge. >> yang: the conn's tuition against the judge authority to conduct foreign affairs and address immigration. congress gist the president law to restrict entry of people he
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may deem appropriate. why do you argue this is unconstitutional? >> pretty straightforward. yes, the president has broad authority, we don't question that, but what the federal government is literally arguing is it's unfettered, that the court cannot look behind my motivation for that order or whether or not it's constitutional and that tha has never been and cannot be the law. we are a nation of laws and nobody can ignore our constitution, no one's above the law and that includes the president of the united states. >> if this executive order just called for the extreme vetting, as president trump calls it, and not specified countries, not giving preference to christians -- well, it gives preference to religious minorities in these countries which means christians and other religions, would that have removed the constitutional objections, in your review? >> i'm asked about different things that would solve the problem the government would
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have but there is significant vetting going on. i returned from sea tac. in one case a man went through a two-year process to get his visa. he's joining his wife here who's a citizen and a cousin who is at washington state university and works at boeing. he would be a great addition and that's happening all across the state. >> yang: the appeals court asked for all arguments. give us a preview of what you will be saying before the three-judge panel. >> so you have news i am hearing for the first time. so we're not surprised if there is oral argument. we anticipated that to be the case for an issue of this magnitude. we'll make the case there can be no unfettered discretion for a president. you have to look behind what he's doing here and we find in this case it violates various constitutional provisions and also vie lats specific statutory
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provisions as well so we're confident we'll prevail. >> yang: the president has been tweeting about this and says the temporary restraining order puts our country in such peril. if something happens, blame him, meaning judge robart, and the court system, how do you respond to that? >> a couple of things. number one, as a lawyer, his comments about the judge being a so-called judge, for example, or statements like that are deeply concerning about anyone who cares about our judiciary. my wife and i are raising our twins to be gracious in victory or defeat and president trump is having difficulty handling a defeat he lumped before the judge. >> yang: what about the the argument this could allow a terrorist to come into the country? >> what did i would encourage the president to draft an executive order that's coverages tuitional. that's his job and responsibility. my job and responsibility is to
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make sure everybody, including the president, plays by the rules and follows the constitution. in a courtroom, it is not the loudest voice that prevails, it's the constitution and that's why i think we're prevailing now. >> reporter: attorney general robert ferguson from salet. thank you very much. >> yang: now, for a different take on president trump's executive order, republican congressman ted yoho joins us from capitol hill. mr. yoho, thanks for being with us. hope you were able to hear the attorney general from washington. olates both the constitution and immigration law enforcement what do you say to that? >> i disagree. the president or executive has the ability to decide who comes in and doesn't if it's a national security risk. all he's asking -- i've read the executive order -- all he's asking is put a pause on it so we get the metrics right so we can do the background checks correct. i don't see a problem with that. he's got in where you come back in 30 days, aassess, 60, 90, 100
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days. this is a pause, not a complete ban. i think anybody concerned with national security, and if you look at our constitution, he kept talking about being constitutional, the constitution states clearly the number one task of our government is to provide for the common defense and protection of this country, and i think, when you look around the world, other areas that have not done this, i think they're wishing they would have been a little bit more stringn't in the examination of people coming in in the refugee program. you know, look at belgium, paris, germany, and i think this is the time that we have to do that, and, again, it's a temporary pause and people, i think, just need to calm down, let us work through the process. the courts will work this out, but i think it's also good that it brought to light how we have to fix our immigration policy, so i welcome that, too. >> yang: the opponents of this are also arguing in their court
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challenge that this creates -- this temporary pause, as you call it, as you say, would create immediate and irreparable injure in employment, education, business, family relations and freedom to travel. how do you respond to that? >> you know, i think those are talking points people are throwing out there. there is going to be some inconvenience. but how inconvenient was 9/11? how inconvenient were the attacks in bell gums and brussels? those were extreme consequences that came from not vetting people properly. we don't want to make that mistake. would you rather err on the side of caution or wait till commission answer and pans ans to the american people why you didn't vet properly. >> yang: are these countries, the countries specified in the executive order, given your experience, are these the countries you would have chosen? >> i think these are good countries to put on there. you look at syria somalia, these
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other ones, they don't have the infrastructure or the i.t. to go back and look at somebody's birth record, history, work records. you look at other countries, and we hear, well, saudi arabia is not on and that's where the 9/11 terrorists or the majority of them came from. we have sat down with saudi arabia, the u.a.e. in egypt, they have good technology and i.t. systems where we can do these background checks and they've beefed that up since then, so we feel comfortable with there. but look at syria a nation ravaged with poor that they can't go back and look at the records, or so mall. i can't you can't go into the country like that. you look at the people who have infiltrated the refugee programs. we know they're using fake passports and we know countries that are complicit making fake passports. let's get this rights, let people calm down and mauck sure we go through the vetting process and we'll get through this. >> yang: if the courts were to
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belong this for longer or maybe strike it down, is there a i don'congressional fix for this? >> sure, it's doing legislation passing in the house and senate and the president will sign it, and these will be stimulated. this is a catalyst that tells us we should get these processes done. so, yeah, for sure. >> yang: let me ask you about president trump's tweets. i know you were elected as a member of the tea party. you believe in the constitution and the three branches of government. >> absolutely. >> yang: what do you think of him calling this so-called judge and saying if something happens, blame him. >> you know, mr. trump has his own style, technique and uniqueness. it's not something i probably would have done, but, again, that's the way he has evolved to this point in his life, and it's worked well for him and i expect you're going to see more of that. that's a minor thing compared to what he's trying to do. he's putting national security in front where it needs to be,
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and we've had such a lapse process over the last probably 15 years that it's time that somebody stands up and does that. and when you do that, when you have the leadership and the strength to do that, people get upset, and it just takes somebody willing to stand up and take the arrows for that. again, it's a pause, not a ban. >> yang: let me ask, finally, you were very critical of president obama for his executive orders, for going around congress. >> sure. >> yang: why is this case different, in your mind? >> i think the big thing is this centers on national security. when you look at what president obama did with the executive order november 20th of 2014, he was given a blanket amnesty to 5 million people that came into this country illegally. again, you can't vet that many people properly, and you can't use a blanket order for that. that's not discretionary review of those type of individuals. president trump, on the other side, is standing up, erring on
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the side of caution on a national security basis that i think we all should applaud that we're putting the country first and the constitution of protecting and preserving our freedoms here. that's where i see a difference. and if you look at what president obama did, right before he got out, he removed wet foot-dry foot on our cuban adjustment act and nobody said a word about that, but yet he did the same thing, and i applaud him for doing that. >> yang: representative ted yoho, thank you for joining us. >> yes, sir. have a good evening. >> yang: thank you. >> yang: stay with us. coming up on the newshour: the elusive obamacare promise of better treatment at lower costs, plus, a stunning super bowl comeback for the ages, from the new england patriots and tom brady.
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but first, a look at what we know about the inner workings of the trump white house and the, at times chaotic, roll out of executive actions with our politics monday team of tamara keith of npr and amy walter of "the cook political report." tonight, we're also joined by glenn thrush, the white house correspondent for the "new york times." glenn, let me start with you. you're the only one of us who has been immortalized on "saturday night live." (laughter) you had a story in the "new york times" that had all sorts of interesting details on the inner workings of the trump white house. what struck you as you were reporting that story? >> what struck me is that the trump white house, this very small crew of operatives loyal to the president, have begun carpet bombing the world with these executive orders, insults and taunts hurled at leaders around the world, while they are still essentially building the
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plain. the point is there is a tremendous amount of audacity and a lot of boldness coming out of steve bannon, who is the president's chief strategist, who is the brain behind what is essentially 250 executive orders that have been at least looked at, dozens and dozens which are likely to be unveiled over the next 12 months, while the president is figuring out how to operate the basic levers of power in washington, d.c. any partner and i point out how fundamental that is. when we say operate the levers of power, we mean that literally. there are operatives in the white house who don't know how to operate the lights yet. >> yang: tamara, how unusual is it for the outsider from washington coming into the white house like this to have this sort of -- it's been described as skyios and dig organization?
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>> you don't have to go back too far. there was an outsider in 1993 from arkansas, brought a bunch of people from arkansas in, and thought that they didn't need the people who were experts and who had done it all before, and it was pretty problematic for about the first year and a half of the clinton administration where they had a lot of trouble getting their nominees through and similar hiccups. so there is a model for it. about a year and a half into the clinton administration, there was a staff shakeup and they brought in leon panetta, with washington experience, to be chief of staff. >> yang: could this be by design, amy? >> we saw donald trump as candidate and businessman. his management style is chaos and conflict, and it won him the nomination, and it won him the white house. he's been successful in his business dealings with this. so why not use it at the white house, right? the question is how long can you keep going like this?
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i know a lot of folks come to washington saying i'm just going to run washington like you run a business. well, washington isn't a business. running the government isn't like running a business. it is big and complicated and for the first time in his life, he's got a whole bunch of people that not only answer to him but he has to answer to, mainly the two other branches of government that he's learning now. will this continue to happen? neighbor. i talked to some folks who said you're not likely to see him chairntion bucs at the same time, you saw during the course of the campaign, he would make course corrections -- remember he went through two campaign manager, and then finally landing on kellyanne conway -- he could make changes when he sees the outside pressure come in, whether in stories like glenn's this morning or other frustrations he's feeling personally. >> yang: glenn, you talked about them figuring out how to turn the lights on, but in some of the offices there is no one in there, anyway?
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>> well, you know, they put forth figures the chief of staff reince priebus says they're meeting staffing comparable to what president obama had eight years ago. we spoke to 40 to 50 people for this story over the course of the last two weeks. the problem isn't getting names on a list. the problem is that the president of the united states only likes six to eight people in his orbit at any given time. the most telling image -- and this is a president, remember, who's very visual -- is around the resolute desk in the office. you have four hard baghdad chairs arranged. that's about the number of people who have influence on him on any given day, and what a lot of people said to us was, we've tried to bring in new people but we're afraid if they underperform or if the president doesn't like him he'll take it out on us and we'll lose our seats in one of those four chairs. so this management style that worked well in trump tower, the question is, as tamara put it,
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is will he be able to adjust his management style which worked in business and branding to a much more complicated job, probably the most complicated job on the planet? >> yang: glenn, we should point out the president continuing his love affair with your publication tweeted the failing "new york times" writes total fiction concerning me. they've gotten it wrong for two years and now are making up stories and sources. on air force one back in florida sean spicer called it literally the epitome of fake news. i don't know if you want to respond to that or not but that's what they're saying about your reporting. >> our reporting, i think, is substantial, solid and well-sourced and every major detail in that story was run by officials in the trump white house before it was published. >> yang: tamara, you've looked at the record on getting cabinet nominees in place and also the
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subcabinet officials. >> right, and there are about 700 important positions that require senate ove confirmation. the senate administration named about 35 people of those 700. many of the administration take a whileo name the subcabinet but at this point, in part because of the senate democrats and in part because of the types of nominees that were picked and because of the fact that they we weren't prevetted by the office of government ethics. but in terms of the cabinet, donald trump has the fewest cabinet members confirmed of anyone going back to world war 2. there's no precedent of this president this far in having so few people. you're going into the super bowl and you don't have the team on the feevmentd number two, nobody thought he was going to win,
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including the people on the campaign. we were talking to people within clinton orbit coming into town looking for houses around the country thinking i'm certainly going to get a job in the administration, i have been promised a job in the straismghts that was all set to go. so i think that's a big piece of it. tamara pointed out, too, he's got people at least at the cabinet level getting them lined up and through the process, which we'll have another all-nighter for democrats trying to block betsy devos hoping for one more republican vote to sink her nomination. >> and three nominees have not completed their ethics process. some complained and some rightfully they don't have enough people on hand, there are people people who haven't completed the process that in the past would have been done before they were named. >> yang: we had a secretary of the army designee draw because of troubles in ethics issues.
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>> right. >> yang: amy walter, tamera keith, glenn thrush, thanks for being with us. >> you're welcome. great to be here. >> yang: in that interview with fox news that aired yesterday, president trump said it could take longer to repeal and replace obamacare than he'd indicated previously. last month, the president said he'd offer a replacement plan as soon as his health and human services secretary is confirmed. but mr. trump told bill o'reilly that it now could take until next year. can americans in 2017 expect a new healthcare plan rolled out by the trump administration this year? >> we're in the process and maybe it will take till sometime into next year but we are certainly going to be in the
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process. very complicated. obamacare is a disaster. you have to remember, obamacare doesn't work, so we are putting in a wonderful plan, it's statutorily takes a while to get. we're going to be putting it in fairly soon. i think that, yes, i would like to say by the end of the year, at least the rudiments, but we should have something between the year and the following year. >> yang: most of the focus on the affordable care act is on coverage. but among the goals of the 2,000 page law is to develop something called accountable care organizations. they offer doctors and hospitals a deal: in exchange for better and more efficient care for medicare recipients, the providers would get a share of the savings. special correspondent jackie judd reports. >> reporter: creating healthcare for the future sometimes means going back to the past. nurse practitioner dana sheer makes old-fashioned house calls to high risk patients like howard van vleck who suffers from a neurological disorder.
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on this day, a cough alarmed his wife. >> when i called the doctor's office about it, they said, "can you bring him in?" and i said, "really not!" >> reporter: this visit was low- tech and quick but if needed, van vleck can get an in-home ultrasound, an e.k.g. or even a chest x-ray. >> our program is aimed at trying to figure out ways that we can provide really good cst effective quality care at a patient's home where they can thrive and do better. >> reporter: how often would he have ended up in the hospital if you hadn't come out? >> likely every time. >> reporter: sheer is part of the accountable care organization, or a.c.o., run by partners healthcare, which collaborates with several massachusetts hospitals. at mass general, jason wasfy does the once unthinkable for a cardiologist. he routinely emails or video chats with patients.
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>> there are cases-- high cholesterol for example-- where i don't need to actually physically examine the patient. >> reporter: medicare is not going to reimburse partners for the home visit or the teleconference. they are not "covered" services. so, why invest in these programs? because if it leads to lower costs to the government, and better care, partners may earn end-of-year bonuses from medicare. >> how are you doing today? >> reporter: primary care physician tim ferris manages the a.c.o. >> it allows us essentially to customize the delivery of services to specific needs and not base how we are delivering that service on exactly what is paid for in the fee-for-service system. >> reporter: an early concern about a.c.o.s was "would doctors skimp on care" in order to save money. so far, there is no evidence of that happening. >> this is triggering her anxiety again. >> reporter: partners has
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created 26 new programs since launching its a.c.o.; everything from integrating mental health services with primary care to offering diabetes classes. >> let's start with the data on the front page. >> reporter: teams of primary care physicians, nurses and psychologists meet weekly to coordinate care. >> we have to do better. 81% is good, but not good enough. >> reporter: without a lot of fanfare, accountable care organizations have become embedded in the healthcare system. while the government jump started the movement, private insurers are also involved. in 2012, eight million americans received health care through a.c.o.s. today, that number stands at 31 million; 10% of the population. the new administration has not weighed in on the fate of government-run a.c.o.s. many experts believe they will remain in place. >> we are committed to this journey, regardless of what happens.
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that we have built sufficient confidence that this is the right thing to do for our patients. >> reporter: partners is a major player among the nearly 9,900 a.c.o.s across the country. its size helps cushion the costs of ramping up and maintaining its a.c.o. doctor peter slavin runs mass general. >> what we stand to gain financially is, we've freed up capacity within the hospital that the a.c.o. patients used to utilize and we use that capacity to serve patients from other networks, from other parts or the country and other parts of the world. >> reporter: patients who would be paying more for your services? >> patients who would be paying more for our services, that is correct. >> reporter: so, what is partners' track record? mixed. most quality measures have improved to varying degrees. hospital admissions dropped last year by 6% over the previous year. the way care is delivered has been transformed. cost, though, is stuck in
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neutral. partners earned bonuses two times by spending less than expected. but the other two years it did not qualify for bonuses and it had to absorb the expenses of those unreimbursed services. partners' record mirrors the national trend in a.c.o.s. the result is medicare has saved only a modest amount of money. ashish jha, a doctor and health policy researcher at harvard, was an early supporter of a.c.o.s and still is. but he is questioning whether early expectations for dramatic cost savings and quality improvements will ever be met. >> i guess i thought by year four, year five, we would have started seeing real gains, kind of nationally and, of course, you'd expect some organizations to fail, you'd expect some organizations not to do a good job. maybe i am just being unrealistic, but when i heard the a.c.o. experts talking five years ago, i heard points of
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within a couple of years, we're going to start seeing real movement. that hasn't happened. >> reporter: ferris counters that altering a complex culture, making big up-front investments and reorganizing care take time and certainly more than four or five years. >> you have to commit to the long haul here. we thought, initially, that we would be able to make big changes quickly. it's quite clear that's not true. >> hello, hello. >> reporter: according to government analyses, primary care a.c.o.s are showing more success than large health systems. coastal medical in rhode island has 85 primary care doctors. since 2012, it has saved medicare $24 million and earned almost half back in bonuses. c.e.o., doctor alan kurose, says not being linked to a hospital makes a difference. >> there will be less demand for inpatient hospital services if we really do coordinated care,
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patient-centered care, well. that hits the bottom line of a hospital. >> we're going to start by checking your oxygen level. >> reporter: coastal medical keeps clinics open everyday of the year and some have late hours. >> how is everything going? >> reporter: the practice hired more support staff including pharmacists, physicians' assistants and nurse practitioners because of the time given to the sickest patients. >> we have one patient i call every morning to make sure he is up for the day. i check on his pain level. if he's taken any of his pain meds yet, make sure he has something in his stomach, and we've found by doing that he's been able to stay in his home and get his at-home nursing services. >> good to see you. >> reporter: ironically, many patients are not even aware of being part of an accountable care organization, they just know different services are available.
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brenda fougera has chronic medical problems. >> if i need a same day appointment because i have a cold, my lungs aren't good, dr. hubbard would start me on things so i didn't end up with pneumonia. >> reporter: even with its early success, coastal medical and other a.c.o.s are still searching for that elusive formula of better care at a lower-cost. >> our experience is that there are a lot of smaller buckets of costs and you have to work on a lot of them. you don't need one clinical initiative, you need a portfolio of initiatives. >> reporter: whatever the fate of obamacare, this experiment likely will be given several more years to prove whether personalized, coordinated care really does-- in the end-- save large amounts of money. for the pbs newshour this is jackie judd in boston.
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>> yang: more than 110 million viewers tuned into the super bowl last night. and a good percentage of them may have started tuning out because the game looked like a blowout. but those who looked away missed an amazing comeback. jeffrey brown has our look. >> reporter: up 21-nothing with the first half winding down, atlanta had a championship in its sights. there'd never been a super bowl comeback of more than ten points. the falcons stretched their lead to 25, all but over, before the tom brady-led patriots began chipping away. they'd drawn within eight points, when wide receiver julian edelman made an eye- popping catch. just a handful of plays later, new england tied it.
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that forced the first overtime in super bowl history, and the patriots quickly marched to victory. >> he's... in! patriots win the super bowl! >> reporter: it's the fifth super bowl ring for coach bill belichick and brady, who was voted most valuable player of the game again. >> new england, we love you. you've been with us all year. we're bringin' this sucker home! >> reporter: it was a bit of revenge for brady, who was suspended four games this season, over a scandal involving under-inflated footballs in a playoff game two years ago. well, i stayed with it to the end, i'm glad i did, and so did mike pesca. he's a sports reporter and the host of slate's daily news and discussion podcast, "the gist." i watched patriots players afterwards and they were saying we never thought it was over, we always thought we had a chance. i'm not sure i i believed them. did you? >> yes, athletes, that's the mindset. the great ones have it. the great ones who play
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alongside tom brady with his five super bowl rings know that has to be the attitude. i have to say, going in, it was the truth that if tom brady had a chance to throw without backsacked, hit or hurt, we knew he could devastate the falcons defense. he didn't get the chance through almost 3/4. then when he did, the question was, could he slice the team up in a concentrated time period? it's not tom brady orchestrated fourth-quarter comebacks, he did that many times, he orchestrated a 25-point comeback with only minutes to go in the third quarter. amazing. >> brown: the background, the two years of deflate great and brady sus sended. this is robert kraft after the game. >> a lot has transpired during
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the last two years, and i don't think that needs any explanation. this is unequivocally the sweetest. >> brown: brady and coach belichick said this wasn't on our mind. it was clearly on kraft and the others. >> it was on his find and on brady's and the fans. it was him being a little imperial and making a very harsh ruling. tom brady was suspend ford a quarter of the season, giving him an extra incentive, a guy who doesn't need that. before this sull idea their relationship, goodell could count on kraft for gigantic salaries for goodell. i don't know if this makes the farts underdog, given the politics of the moment, but toto the fans, this made this the
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most amazing comeback in n.f.l. history and sweet revenge. >> brown: the inevitable talk is greatest all time player with brady and belichick and dynasty with the patriots, what do you think. >> i haven't seen graham play a full game. you have to factor in the rules and to fences of 2016 and 2017 are light years ahead of what roger staubach did. how could you say he's anything less than tied and the brady belichick combination? the n.f.l. chews up coaches and i think bill bil bill belichicka great mind, finding so many ways to outthink the opponent. whatever you think of his countenance and wearing ill-fitted sweatshirts, the guy
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is a thinker and brings creativity to the game by i as a fan appreciate. >> brown: atlanta, what an exciting and young team they were for about three quarters, then a devastating loss for the city and team who hungered for such thing. >> yes, on the field for 93 plays, no defense could possibly stick with another team. we thought they had a big enough buffer. the combination of the plays the patriots had which wore down the defense, and atlanta made terrible mistakes which included taking t sacks and not making a goal, they will be rueing this for a long time and they're one braves championship in the '90s won't be enough to sustain the city for much longer. >> brown: mike pesca, thank you very much. >> you're welcome.
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>> yang: now to our latest sciencescope episode: a third of the planet's coral reef ecosystems are at risk of being damaged by warming sea temperatures and the subsequent coral bleaching, but can these creatures adapt and survive? newshour's science producer nsikan apkan and producer matt ehrichs take us on a voyage deep into the atlantic ocean, looking for answers. >> reporter: i'm in a plastic pod, in the middle of the ocean, off bermuda's southeast coast. this thing is smaller than a volkswagen beetle. as six-foot swells toss our tiny submersible. i think, "this was a terrible idea." then suddenly, the pod tips forward, the descent begins. the rocking slowly stops, as the ocean swallows us. all that's left... is peace. no more emails. no claustrophobia. just the whole ocean, spread in
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front of us, and a scientific quest. sciencescope visited bermuda to travel hundreds of feet underwater with the privately funded nekton mission. and to see the threats harming more than a third of the planet's coral reefs because some coral may adapt by going deeper. >> nekton is a brand new project, aimed at exploring and documenting life in the deep ocean, but also showing the public what lives in the deep ocean, and what it does for humankind, and also what impacts humans are having on the deep sea. >> reporter: the project plans to measure biodiversity and ocean chemistry at three sites in the atlantic. the team uses a variety of tools, among them, two triton submersibles called "nemo" and "nomad." they're the same type used by filmmaker and ocean explorer james cameron.
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capable of diving 1,000 feet, these mini subs are equipped with the latest filming and scientific equipment. they'll document the vast, unchartered void that is the deep sea. >> well at present, about .0001% of the deep sea has been explored by scientists like myself, our goal is to set up a standard protocol for investigating the deep sea. >> reporter: over the course of four hours, we glide across huge portions of the sea floor. this is called a transect. they'll videotape and ultimately identify as many fish and corals as possible. >> on the limestone we have coral garden habitat, the bright white corals are hydrocorals, the yellow corals are gorgonians, and the wire corals are black corals. >> reporter: oodles of fish dart back and forth in this abyss,
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while moray eels stick out their neon green necks from the seabed. but the team can identify species, even when they're not physically around, using environmental d.n.a. >> so you can imagine if you put your hand in a big glass of water, and a few cells fall off your hand with your d.n.a on them, then we would be able to take that water and sequence it, and find out that you've been there, and you've put your hand in the water. >> reporter: the scientists collect water samples to do the same with ocean critters, which shed cells with d.n.a. in many forms. scales, shells... >> poop as well. poop is a great source of d.n.a. >> reporter: closer to the surface, nekton conducts similar surveys by relying on research divers from project baseline, a global citizen science initiative. these divers film the biodiversity, but also collect physical specimens for researchers like gretchen goodbody gringley. she studies how corals migrate
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from shallow water into the deeper, darker mesophotic zone. located 131 to more than 500 feet underwater, this deeper region may one day serve as a refuge for corals affected by bleaching and other threats. >> many of the anthropogenic or human-caused threats that are impacting shallow water coral reefs, such as increases in seawater temperature, increases in pollution, sedimentation and run off from the land. these all impact the shallow water reef more than they are impacting mesophotic reef. >> reporter: warming waters cause coral bleaching, as seen here with mushroom coral. the coral expels its colorful, symbiotic algae, which have become toxic due to the heat. this coral also expands to 340% of its size. if this event occurs too frequently, the coral won't only bleach. it'll die. all corals start as little larvae that get swept around by currents before attaching in a
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single spot. so, gringley, rogers and the nekton team use these underwater surveys and environmental d.na. to see which shallow water corals can also live in the mesophotic zone and maybe one day use this deeper ocean as a hideout. >> so if you have high levels of genetic diversity and you have the same types of sequence types in various locations across geographic range or across depth range, this would be indicative of mixing and so the larvae are in fact migrating between zones. >> reporter: so from these teeny-tiny samples, her team can unlock how generations of corals have migrated. the results will clear up which coral species can migrate, and which can't. conservation scientists in the future can use this information to best protect these critical critters-- maybe by preserving them in aquariums or physically transplanting them from shallow water to the mesophotic zone. >> the deep ocean is the most critical frontier for humanity, and is also the least known. the deep ocean is our beating heart, and if you didn't know how healthy your heart was, wouldn't you want to know? >> reporter: until next time, i'm nsikan akpan and this is
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sciencescope from the pbs newshour. >> yang: online, you can watch additional episodes of sciencescope and get five important news stories you might have missed last week. all that and more is on our website: pbs.org/newshour. a news update before we go: late today, the justice department filed its brief with a federal appeals court, defending the president's travel ban. oral arguments are scheduled for tuesday. and we want to follow up on a story we reported last week. last monday, jane ferguson brought us the story of abdul hameed-- an iraqi who spent seven years helping u.s. troops as a translator. his plans to bring his family to the u.s. had been dashed by the immigration ban. but the u.s. government has changed its position on his request. he will now be included in the exceptions made for iraqis on special immigrant visas who worked with the u.s. military. he hopes to leave iraq next week and appreciates the outpouring
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of support he received on social media in response to our story. tune in later tonight on "charlie rose:" the actors and director of the new film "a united kingdom." and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm john yang. join us online and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st century. >> supported by the john d. and catherine t. macarthur
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>> rose: welcome to the program. we begin this evening with new conflict between the united states and iran. we talk to david sanger of the "new york times" and karim sadjadpour of the carnegie endowment for international peace. >> we are in the early stages of an escalation which could culminate in a military conflict either between the united states and iran or israel and iran. you know, i think the issue here is that iran argues that any new sanctions are a violation and abrogation of the nuclear deal, and they've said on several occasions that if the u.s. violates its end of the deal, then iran will reconstitute it's nuclear program, and i think i think it's going -- what we saw in the nuclear deal a