>> rose: welcome to the program. i'm charlie rose. the program is can week. just ahead, confusion in north korea. as president trump approaches 100 days. and actress cary koon lights up "the leftovers." >> death is easy. people just want fine art. an end to their grief. but with departures there is no end. >> i think i'm going crazy. >> rose: we will have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications

>> rose: and so you begin how? >> it feels very real to me. >> rose: is it luck at all or is it something else? >> immediate impact of it. >> rose: what's logic. tell me what's the significance of the moment? this was the week the trump administration announced plans for a new push to repeal and replace obamacare. north korea threatened more nuclear tests. and tennis champion serena williams announced she is expecting a child later in the year. here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. >> the evacuation of more than 3,000 syrians has been postponed after the convoy of buses was bombed. >> north korea aired footage that imagines missiles engulfing america in flames. >> the past two weeks, the world witnessed the strength and resolve of our new president. north korea would do well not to test his resolve. >> our condolences from our country to the people of france.

it looks like another terrest attack. >> former new england patriots player aaron hernandez has committed suicide in prison. >> a murder posted to facebook neal gorsuch will hear ahunt. pivotal caits in his first week. >> president trump is going after the democrat trying to stage a major upset in the former congressional race. >> former president h.w. bush is recovering at a texas hospital from a minor case of pneumonia. >> there are major changes coming to the program lineup here at fox news. >> rob gronkowski popped his head in. >> that was cool. >> hang on tight, fellow other earthlings, a huge asteroid is going to pass by the earth. >> a sky diving easter bunny. >> a panda bear got a serious case of the itch. >> the 121st boston marathon.

>> katrhine switzer crossed the winning line 50 years after the first year women ran. >> the only thing certain in life with death and taxes. >> it's the day that all americans but one release their tax records. it's a big deal ♪ yeah, the tax man >> rose: tensions with north korea continue to rise this week, and so does the rhetoric. vice president pence was in south korea where he promised an overwhelminoverwhelming and effe response to any use of nuclear or conventional weapons by the north, and state-run media. joining me from denver is ambassador christopher hill. he is a former ambassador to south korea. he headed up the u.s. delegation during the korea nuclear talks. he is now the dean of the corbel school of international studies at the university of denver.

welcome, chris, it's great to have you here. >> thank you very much. >> rose: i have in my hand the new 100 most influential people from "time" magazine they announced today, that among those people is the leader of north korea kim jong-un. and guess who they asked to write the profile of kim jong-un? you. so tell me what you said about him because everybody wants to know, you know, who in fact is he and what should we expect from him? >> well, he's-- he's been in power for some five years, and there doesn't look like there's any mellowing of his position. he has really acceleratedly the nuclear programs. in 2016, he had two nuclear tests. it's widely believed he's going to have another one very soon. he's had some 25, 30 missile tests, and it's believed that that will just continue through the year. and meantime, he's gone on, how to put it, a bit of a murder spree. he's had executed over 300

people. usually in public executions by firing squad. he's thrown in flame throwers and other things. in short, he does not appear to be any kind of reformer, as some people thought he was. and, indeed, he's proving to be a very irascible, difficult leader. the chinese can't deal with him. no one can deal with him. >> rose: how would you deal with him? >> well, i think, first of all, it is essential to have a serious discussion with the chinese. secondly-- and this is part of why we've seen vice president pence and secretary tillerson and secretary mattis recently in the region-- we need to reassure our allies. i mean, i was just in south korea a few days ago. there's a lot of concern, not only about the north koreans but also how the new u.s. administration is managing this. >> rose: so with respect to him, based on what you said, i mean, can you expect to have a reasonable agreement that satisfies want interests of both

countries? >> you notice i talk about what we have to do with our allies there, and i talk about what we need to do with china. but i'm not sure there's really a scope for negotiation at this point with the north koreans. how we deal with it, what are the elements of it? probably in the space between peace and war, probably along the lines of trying to slow down their program through some sort of clandestine means. but, meanwhile, really try to put the screws to this regime because it is truly intolerable, and it's not getting betterots own. >> rose: what do youic make of this controversy about the aircraft carrier "karl vinson. ?" >> on one level is looks like a confusion of talking points between the pacific command, the pentagon, the white house. and he implied tathat would be somehow part of last week's solution in terms of getting north korea to back off. and then we find that it was-- it was-- it had things to do-- or exercises to do in australia,

and it wasn't going to be deployed for some time. and so i guess the problem is when you're president and you say something, and even if you think you're saying something accurately, people need to bible to take that to the bank. >> rose: president trump will mark his 100th day in office next week, and by all accounts, it will be a busy one. the administration is planning to mount a new effort to repeal and replace obamacare. meanwhile, the government face the possibility of another shutdown. and there is also the issue of tax reform and infrastructure. joining me now with more of what to expect in washington, robert costa of the "washington post." he has also just been named the successor to gwen ifill, the great gwen ifill, as moderator of "washington week" right here on pbs. and i begin with congratulations

to robert costa, and also a well-deserved selection by them. so i look forward to sharing friday night with you. >> charlie, it's a thrill, an honor to do it, and truly appreciate your support all these years going back to nigh internship with you in 2006. it's been phenomenal to have you there as a mentor and friend. >> rose: let's begin with president trump. 100 days coming up. what can we say have been successes and failures? i mean, two things come to mind-- the confirmation of a supreme court justice. two, in terms of where we are now, although people don't know the strategy, the syrian airstrike. where would you assess the trump administration at 100 days? >> a white house that touts the gorsuch confirmation as its signature achievement in the first 100 days. but as they near this 100-day mark, they're still searching for a legislative achievement.

that's why late this week, you have the white house scrambling with house speaker paul ryan to try to revive health care once congress come back next week, before the 100 days actually hits its mark, because they want to have something they can talk about that passes the house on health caring. >> rose: and do they think they can do that? and is that a reasonable expectation? >> i wouldn't call it reasonable yet. republicans on capitol hill who have spoken with the top ones and leadership say they don't have the votes yet in the house to pass passany kind of health care legislation. but the president himself, i'm told, by white house fshz, is putting his foot on the pedal and saying, "i don't care what the hill is saying about the vote count. i need this to move in the house next week." that's why you have chief of staff reince priebus and steve bannon, the chief strategist, trying to work with the harvard line freedom caucus to come up with some kind of consensus plan. >> rose: are they having any success with the freedom caucus? >> so far the freedom caucus has been working closely with the

white house on a revived bill? they're talking about high-risk pools, different kinds of conservative elements they want to inject into the legislation, less spending. at the same time, the leadership is still wary. if the white house cuts a deal with the freedom caucus on health care, does it actually hurt the final tally among house republicans? in other words, if you give the freedom caucus what it wants to some moderates, then, in the house g.o.p. become wary of the legislation. >> rose: have they given up any idea somehow they may be able to attract some democrats. they make the bill a little bit different? >> not at all. there's-- there's very low expect bation democratic input. and if you look the-- i was just in atlanta, charlie, for three days, covering that special house election, and i spoke to senator van hollen of maryland and others who are working on legislation this year, and they say democrats have so much grass-roots energy on the left and even though they didn't win the seat in georgia they, got close to 50%, they don't see any impetus, any reason to move

towards the republicans on health care because they think president obama's base, which didn't come out in droves in 2016, could come out in 2018 and help democrats maybe even win back the house if health care is an animating issue. >> rose: the former c.e.o. of microsoft announced a new project. the l.a. clippers owner and largest stockholdener microsoft, is launching u.s.a. fact, a platform that tracks government spending and performance. i sat down with him on tuesday at the economic club in new york about his career and about this new venture. let me go back to where you were, when you had the question that you wanted to answer, you know, how is going money spent?" and you went looking for that. had anybody else tried to do this? >> you can find everything in our-- in our site. you can find someplace else. i mean, we didn't create

anything original, except the structure around the data. so the answer is, yes, on every topic. and there are actually have very good sites that pick certain of these topics and do them very well. i saw a great visualization the other dave how government money gets spent. that's super. you don't see many place where's people are adding together state, federal, and local data. that's pretty rare because most governments present themselves government by government. but everything out there is available. part of the question is bringing it together. if you say, "how many jobs are in food preparation and service?" ll, and it may be hard toyof correlate that with other things going on in the economy. >> rose: who's going to tiewz? >> i hope what we get initially is people in the government field, journalists, i think, will benefit. and what i would call the most

engaged part of the citizenry, people who read the kinds of pub licaigs that regularly cover things in some depth, in some use of numbers, and that would certainly point to the great national newspapers and magazines. >> rose: who's financing it? >> i am, i am. i paid for it. i'm paying for it with after-tax dollars. i decide that even taking a tax deduction was the wrong thing to do. by the way, it's no coincidence that we chose to do this event on tax filing day. i think there's a certain poetic justice to telling you what you're paying for, as you're signing your federal income tax return. >> rose: why do you feel better about how the government money is being spent? >> i thought there were a lot of pockets where you could really-- you can debate the money is not being spent on your priorities. i thought we'd find a lot of pocket where's things just

looked very expensive relative to output. and i don't think-- at least i didn't feel like i found that. take transfer payments. i think transfer payments are about $2.4 trillion, if i remember correctly. so that is medicare, medicaid, social security, snap, and some other stuff. that's $2.4 trillion. you can agree or disagree about how much of that we should do, but the truth is you know that money goes straight through to purpose. people are eating the snap dollars. people are spending their social security money. i feel good about that. >> rose: elizabeth warren is the senior senator from massachusetts. she is a former harvard law school professor. she is also a longtime champion of working families and the middle class. her newest book is called, "this fight is our fight: the battle

to save america's middle class." >> i grew up in a family that was holding on to its spot in the middle class truly by our fingernails. a lot of ups, a lot of downs. when my daddy had a heart attack when i was 12, long period of time with no money coming in. we lost the family car. we nearly lost the family house. my mother got a job a at sears a minimum wage job. it saved our house. it saved our family. i just wanted one thing-- i wanted one door to open. i wanted to be a teacher. i wanted to be a teacher from second grade on. i talk about this in the book. and college is the only way you get to be a teacher. >> rose: education is the key. >> it's a long, shaggy dog story. but the bottom line is the only way that could happen for me was a commuter college that cost $50

a semester. it opened one door, and from that one door, here i am, the daughter of a maintenance man, who ended up as a harvard law professor and a united states senator. now, let me do the comparison straight out of this book. khai a young woman in this book who has the same kind of dreams, the same kind of ambitions. she wants to work in the computer field. she's sure she can do this. she has been practicing since she was a little kid. she's ready to go. only the difference with khai, she gets her feet tangled up with a for-profit college and i pick her up in this book at 27 years old with no diploma and $100,000 of student loan debt that she's trying to manage on a waitress' salary, and here's the part that really twists the knife it's united states government is making a profit off khai's loans. now, the difference between those two girls who had dreams,

young women who set off for college -- >> elizabeth and khai. >> elizabeth and khai. elizabeth grew up in an america that was opening doors, opening doors for more and more and more of our kids. khai grew up in an america where those opportunities are schichging every day. that is fundamentally wrong. >> rose: how is your constituency, those people who have supported you or who today believe in your ideas different from the donald trump constituency that essentially elected him? >> i don't know, charlie. i mean i -- >> do they have the same issues? >> as i see it -- >> but-- >> these are-- these are issues that affect working family all across this country. >> rose: so you are appealing, essentially, to the same large group of people who have the same economic issues. >> yes. >> rose: the same issues about health care. >> yes. >> rose: who have the same issues about education. >> yes. >> rose: who have the same issues about losing their

pension. >> yeah. >> rose: all of those things. >> that's right. about jobs, about opportunity, about retirement. you bet. >> rose: cary koon is becoming a familiar face on television. she stars in "the leftovers." the time season began airing this week. she also plays police chief gloria burgle in "fargo." >> she is a statistical anomaly and the only person who has lost that many people. and i find though the show seems to deal with supernatural circumstances it feels very real to me. >> rose: meaning dealing with explos departure and all of that? >> yes. >> rose: it happens to everybody. >> most personal it does. when tom perrotta wrote the

book, it was about collective grieving, what happens to an entire group of people when they're grieving together. and i think we see so many instances of that in our world, unfortunately, now, where communities are traumatize and have to deal with things collectively. he was very prescient in that way. it felt like a truthful examination of what it is like to be in grief. >> rose: was the transition difficult? >> from theater to tv and film? un, it's completely different. having come up through the chicago scene, one of the benefits of that is the market is much smaller so i had the opportunity to do a lot of commercial auditions so i really learned to be on camera by going to, you know, sort of named commercial audition for years. i felt like i was ready. it's more about your face than your whole body, i would say, is the biggest difference. >> rose: and it's up close. >> that's right. and in the theater you tell the whole story from beginning to end. in tv and film, you tell it out of order and they knock on your door at 2 a.m. and say, "come

out and cry now." >> rose: and then there's "fargo." >> yes, "fargo." gloria is a very practical, midwestern woman. i'm from the midwest, too. we don't suffer fools and quite practical. she's-- you know, she's got a lot of perspicacity. >> rose: there's a word i haven't heard in a while. >> thanks. i like to read books. year, she's very clear thinking, and no one listens to her. >> rose: yeah. >> because-- partly because she's a woman, i think, and she's in a very male-dominated profession. she's also-- we meet her at a very low point in her life where she may be losing her job. her little precinct is being divorced by the county. she's getting a divorce. her husband has left her for a man. >> rose: her husband left her for a man. >> yes, he has, quite a shock for gloria. she's raising a 12-year-old boy basically on her own. and then there's a murder and she's responsible for that, too. she's kind of the least

minnesota nice cop we have in chicago. she doesn't have the patience for it. >> rose: other than the midwest, what else does it shairp with "leftovers." >> apparently, i'm very enigmatic, i'm told. >> rose: gloria is enigmatic? >> i guess she keeps her cards close. she doesn't ask for help easily. and i also think she has a very wry sense of humor, which i think nora also shares with her. >> rose: "the promise" is a new film from director terry george. the early 20th century love story set against the backdrop of the armenian genocide. it stars christian ailes bailz. >> the background to the genocide itself is when the first world war broke out, the turkish government at that time-- actually, the ottoman empire government, there was no

turkee they made a decision basically to eliminate the armenian population. and they used the cover of the war between the turks and russians and the northern border on to say that the armennians had risen up and they had to be moved out of that war zone. what in fact happened is was the bulk of the population from around the ottoman empire were basically herded into the desert and walked to death or massacred in rivers, fields, cliffs, drowned at sea. it wasn't the first genocide of the 20th century, but a key moment in these catastrophes in that the word itself "genocide" came from this event. >> rose: who is your character, christian? >> i play a character called chris myself, a member of the associated press so he's there to cover the events. he's there, actually, more led by his love for a different armenian character in the film

who wanted to return to her routes. he's a more kind of dissoslute character, very acerbic, quite arrogant and proud, but irtaigingly correct about a number of things, and finds himself ceasing to be an observer and starting to be a participant in the events. >> rose: oscar has been here a number of times before. what do you hope people to take away from this film? >> i hope people recognize not only the atrocity of what happened and that it helps shed light on that, but also that they make the parallels to what's happening today in the same parts of the world, the same times of attack, in this country, on the press and on the idea of refugees, that there's compassion that elicit empathy, particularly with this story. as the years go by, it becomes quite abstract. the number-- 1.5 million armennians killed. it's easy to kind of see it as a statistic. hopefully the movie helps humanize these events.

>> rose: this is a story families pass on generation to generation. >> yes, just as my family did. the orphans in the movie are really my great-great grandparents that survived. the funny through-line that brings everything full circle is my great-great grandparents left-- i guess i would call "old armennia" because they were old villages that were destroyed with old monuments of churches that now kurds live in. basically, theatre very things that existed before christ or during christ, and now they're the walls of homes of other people. they left old armennia and went to syria, to aleppo for refuge, and today people from syria leave and go to other countries for that same thing. they could go to spain or other places. and it just seems so pertinent for that reason, that 100 years later, the same things seem to

unfortunately, happen. >> now, here's a look at your weekend. earth day and the march for science rally happens saturday on the mall in washington, d.c. the coachella music festival returns to indio, california, for a second weekend. ♪ ♪ and brad paisley has a new album out, "love and war." ♪ wearing the tux in a high school gym, and she's wearing your class ring ♪ there's a last time for everything ♪ >> and here is what's new for the week ahead. sunday is the running of the london marathon. monday is barbra streisand's 75th birthday. tuesday is the day the peabody award winners are announced. wednesday is the day maria sharapova returns to

professional tennis after a 13-month ban. thursday is the first day of the national football league draft. friday is the deadline for congress to avoid a government shutdown. saturday is the annual white house correspondents' dinner in washington, d.c. >> rose: that's "charlie rose: the week" for this week. on behalf of all of us here, thank you for watching. i'm charlie rose. we'll see you again next time. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> rose: funding for "charlie brought to you in part by:

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