>> charlie: welcome to the program. i'm charlie rose. the program is "charlie rose: the week." steve bannon is out of the white house and the series the incredible jessica jane. >> well, all the more reason to say goodnight. >> really? >> i'm trying to be strong. oh. >> we'll have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following:

>> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> i got to see that early on. >> charlie: what's the object? >> don't identify with me. >> charlie: tell me the significance of the moment. this was the week violent protests left three dead in charlottesville, virginia. president trump was criticized for his response to the protest and we'll have more on the pga championship. here's the sights and sounds of the past seven days. >> reflecting on the violence in charlottesville, virginia people have been gathering on the streets and in the country. >> charlie: the president will cut ties with steve bannon.

>> some believe in accommodating the alt-right movement. >> please in oklahoma stopped a man plotting to blowup a bank. >> they hit pedestrians in the crowded barcelona street. >> they killed five people in the terror raid. >> we have no tolerance for while supremacists. >> there's a new warning if north korea hits guam it is quote, game on." >> heavy rains caused a mudslide in sierra leon. >> i think there's blame on both sides and i have no doubt about it and you don't have any doubt about it either. >> what i just saw gave me the wrong kind of chills. >> it's supposed to be a press

conference about infrastructure. >> i'm sure the first rule of infrastructure is whatever you do don't burn bridges. >> the photographer will never forget. >> you were at the white house for ten days. >> when you take a job like that, steven, you know your expiration date was coming. i didn't think i'd last too long but i thought i'd last longer in that carton of milk. [♪] >> charlie: we begin this evening with a nation and washington in conflict. steve bannon appears to be paying for the price for the president's disastrous week. once again the administration was pulled off topic this time by the fallout by charlottesville. president trump's comments put him at odds with many including

military leaders and members of the republican party. joining me is the editor of the newsletter. good morning or good afternoon. tell me about steve bannon. what is the latest we know about his survival? >> well, he's not surviving. the president has decided he will go. the highest profile firing from this white house. steve bannon is telling colleagues he resigned august 7 to be effective a week later. that would coincide with one year of him coming into the trump campaign. we're told the leading offenses for steve bannon. the reason he ran afoul of the president is one, leaking, which is ironic in this white house. charlie, you know how much everyone leaks including the president of the united states. but the president believed steve bannon was leaking on west wing colleagues perhaps including his

son-in-law, jared kushner and that's one thing the president's been telling people around the west wing. the second thing and probably the tipping point, charlie, was as you know this president doesn't like to be outshone. he doesn't like other people crowding his spotlight and the book that came out last month from business week's josh greene on the cover showing steve bannon and president trump as equals. charlie, we know the president that is a book and didn't like it. >> charlie: i would add his conflict with h.r. mcmaster. >> the big irony, if you listened to the president and read his tweets you'd say bannon is talking in his ear and he is. jonathan swan reported this week steve bannon talks repeatedly to the president after charlottesville. it was steve bannon egging the

president on with his message that quote, both sides, unquote, were to blame. >> charlie: we turn now to another terror attack in europe. after least 14 have died and more than 100 injured in a pair of attacks thursday in barcelona and cambrils. five suspects are dead and four detained and one remains at large. the attacks are part of a larger trend where terrorists hope to inflict casualties by driving vehicles into crowds of pedestrians. we turn to a former homeland adviser to president bush and a contributor so cbs news. what's the significance of this? >> the risk here is we say this is just one in a series of these

vehicular attacks. the best known trend in europe was the nice attack on the promenade with a big truck and there's been half a dozen over the last year. the barcelona attack is different. what they intended was something quite different. there was the gas explosion at the home the day before and what they were planning to do were put the gas canister explosives in the car and when that prematurely went off they changed the plan and went for a ramming attack. that wasn't all, right. then we see 80 miles south in cambrils there's a next car ramming and five of the terrorists are killed in a shootout. it was a larger cell, better coordinated and better planned and they executed poorly but it gives a hallmark of a bigger more spectacular attack isis would like to pull off. >> charlie: also suggesting when

we think about isis and as they are fighting in raqqah having lost mosul and if they lose raqqah everybody expects they will we'll see these attacks in europe and the united states. >> look at what we've seen in brussels paris. we've always worried that the fighters in those areas would bleed out and go to western europe. the interesting thing about spain is they're particularly vulnerable to those extremists coming in from north america. there's a pipeline where they cross from north america, morocco and the extremist fight to western europe. many pass through spain but obviously we have a group that's remained in spain and poses a threat there. >> charlie: we've seen what happened in charlottesville as domestic terrorism intended to

insight violence to attract attention. >> charlie, there's no doubt in my mind charlottesville was domestic terrorism. if you're prepared to label barcelona where a non-government actor targets the public with violence for political gain then we ought to be willing to confron confront when a white supremacist does the thing that's terrorism too. >> charlie: last weekend's violence in charlottesville, virginia continues to reverberate throughout the country. vice news were able to capture the events. the document is called "charlottesville: race and terror" the executive producer of vice news and the executive vice president of news

at vice media. >> when we heard about a week ago they were going to make the lead from the digital domain to physical domain and 200 white nationalists would be marching without hoods and without anonymity it was easy on our part to decide to get down there. it was as simple as having a pretty great reporter and you go from there and you trust them and elle earned every bit of it. >> charlie: what did you anticipate when you went to charlottesville? >> i knew it would be a gathering of a bunch of disparate groups and i thought it would be significant they were all getting together. i was not anticipating how organized they'd be. i knew they had a ring of private security comprised of afghanistan and iraq veterans but once we were on the ground

they were well organized. they had people doing crowd control and giving tiki torches and dropping people off at the field. it was a highly organized group. >> charlie: did they trust you? you had a conversation where a guy was responding to your questions in a direct manner. >> no, i don't think they trust me. they don't like women. they believe the media's run by jews. but i do try to present their arguments because i think it's really important people understand what these people believe so there can be counterarguments against it and i think that's why they're willing to talk to me. >> charlie: and how did the events unfold in charlottesville through your eyes as you watched it? >> friday night we arid of -- arrived at 9:30 and there were so many people lining up and there were tiki torches and a massive line that snaked across

the field. it was really stunning. i mean, it was maybe in absolute terms not huge in numbers a few hundred people but a significant showing. when the march began there were these animalistic chant and grunting and very explicit anti-semitic chance. they were so enthusiastic. they were so pumped. it was really scary. >> charlie: scary? scary for your own safety or for what might happen because of the clash of opposing i'deologies o views? >> scary they had so many appear and willing to show their face. many were armed not at the tiki torch parade and scary because they were so emotional.

it was clear they might act on their violent ideology. >> charlie: when did the terrorist act happen. >> there had been a lot of fights between protesters and counter protesters and it'd got crazy. the white nashlts wer nationali ordered to move and then that was canceled and they were agitated. we went downtown and there were counter protesters marching through the town and we were following those and we crossed the street and two minutes later a car slammed into human bodies. >> charlie: willing the young woman. >> that's right and injuring many people.

>> charlie: shock over the president and the violence that left three dead in charlottesville, virginia this past weekend quickly gave way to a larger discussion about america's racial divide and president trump's response to the crisis. his response went from blaming both sides to calling out white supremacists and then back again. i spoke with presidential historian jon meacham and the reverend al sharpton. >> the best thing you can say about the reaction on saturday is it was morally ambiguous. that's the best you can say. he governs to his base. that's clearly part of his political strategy. his base includes people, if not entirely people, but it includes people like david duke who said

we voted for trump to vote our country back. that's what we have to do. that's what david duke said and the president before he was the president couldn't find it in his heart or mind to disassociate himself immediately from that kind of vitriol. >> i think he is right. when you look at the fact that many of those that were in this hate rally had on trump caps. had on caps saying "make america great." it was incumbent then on the president to denounce it and say don't use my name or identify me with this. i remember when bob dole told hate groups i don't want your support. the exit sign is there for you at the convention center. this president would not denounce david duke for days

asking he didn't hear the questions or ducking that. he is never taking that on. it took 48 hours after a young lady was killed for him to denounce these people that engage in terrorism by name. 48 hours and a young american woman is dead by a self-described white supremacist and many have said the hate hasn't gone anywhere it's moved to the margins. it's now been emboldened. >> charlie: do you think we'll look back on it as a moment of change? do you think all that's what happened in terms of the reaction and some saying it will be an inflection point. >> i think it's part of a tragic pattern. i think it begins in our native

region and the aftermath of mathematics. have you the founding of the klan on christmas eve, 1865. have you the beginning of white resistanc resistance. the fires of hate are burned brightest when there's times of economic and social stress. reconstruction was that kind of moment. the beginning -- the institution of jim crow in the 1890s. you had the birchers of the 1960s. you had the anti-government sentiment of the mid 1990s when the innocent people when the innocent children in the center died with the bombing of timothy mcveigh. you have these moments when the part of the white population feels alienated and dispossessed

only 19% of people trust the federal government and we're $70,000 off the median income for a family of four to have a middle-class clivlife. those are the numbers that produced it. with all respect to my friend, reverend sharpton. it's not a dog whistle if everyone can hear it and that's where we are now. >> charlie: jessica williams was hired as a correspondent on the daily show with jon stewart when she was just a 22-year-old college student. she's gone on to create the popular podcast two queens. this summer she stars in the incredible jessica jane.

she plays a struggling playwright trying to get over an ex-boyfriend. >> i really do feel with the incredible jessica jane coming out, with my podcast and we're doing a bunch of hbo specials. i feel my career is really starting to take off in a way that really i wasn't expecting in my wildest dreams. >> when you were growing up did you have a role model? did you have someone who said, gee, that's what i'd like to be? >> i had a few. growing up i think there's two types of grandmas. i think you can have a milk and cookies grandma and a smoke cigarettes wants to go to atlantic city kind of grandma. mine was the latter. she loved late night and snl and night tv and adult swim and

conan stuff. i got to see that early on and she later in life became obese and couldn't move around and so she'd watch tv all day. i was like wow, if this person is watching tv and that's something that makes her happy this is a valid medium and laughter can help people be less lonely. then i just figured out very early on i really like to be witty. >> charlie: did you create jessica? >> no, i didn't create jessica james. i worked on jessica james with the writer and director jim strauss and he's amazing and people had placed it together two years before and he said something nice. he said i can't wait until someone writes you a movie because i love working with you and he said wait, i can write you a movie. we met a bunch before pitching the idea of the incredible

jessica james. he's like i think this and what are your thoughts and by the time we sold the movie and we worked out a deal they had had me on as executive producer and that was really exciting. i got a lot of creative input and that's what's so fun about the movie. you can see she abbreviates words and she feels very much like me. so i think -- >> charlie: jessica james feels like you. >> jessica james feels like jessica williams which is me. >> charlie: science fiction fans have a big reason to visit new york's museum of modern art. future unperfect is an exhibit of 70 films from 22 countries. taken together the films explore the question of what it means to be human.

the show is curated by joshua siegel. >> our series spans about 116 years. it encompasses countries and i'm josh siegel the curator of the museum of modern and art. i'd long wanted to do a science fiction movie series but i was trying to think of ways in which i wouldn't have to trot out the usual suspects. if i were to limit myself only to the greatest hits i wouldn't have room left for the more amazing discoveries i've made in

the past year or so. >> i've done it. it's a radio active group. >> i didn't want any interplanetary space travel or invasions or monsters. you think what's left? what came to the surface is -- surfaced is questions on what it means to be human. >> do you think i may be switched off because i don't function as well as i'm supposed to? >> i don't know the answer to your question. it's not up to me. >> what i think is appealing about science fiction is it somehow encompasses the erotic

and comical and they're films from buster keaton's "elec house", "groundhog day." more unsettling depictions of post apocalyptic life on earth. i think every generation has its shares of hopes and fears and films reflect this. i'll do moments of euphoria. moments of pleasure. all this is reflected in the series regardless of whether the films are made in 1910 or 2016.

>> here's what's new for your weekend. the pokemon convention in anaheim, c lifornia. kesha has a new album out," rainbow." and the action comedy," the hit man's body guard" is released in theatres. here's a look at the week ahead. sunday is the final day of president trump's working vacation at the trump national golf club in bedminister, new jersey. monday is the day americans can see the first total eclipse in 100 years and bebe the panda

celebrates a birthday and thursday is the 25th anniversary of hurricane andrew hitting florida. friday's the opening day of the colorado and oregon state fairs. saturday is the day employed mayweather fights connor mcgregor in las vegas. >> charlie: that's charlie rose the week for this week. thank you for watching. i'm charlie rose. see you next time. >> for more visit us online at:

steves: music in vienna's parks enjoys a long tradition. a century ago, johann strauss was the toast of vienna's high society. it was here, in vienna's city park, in the kursalon, where the "waltz king" himself directed wildly popular concerts in the late 1800s. and the tradition continues to the delight of music lovers from around the world. [ "the blue danube" plays ]

>> rose: welcome to the program. we begin tonight with two big stories, the departure of steve bannon from the white house and the terrorist attack in barcelona. >> white house press secretary sarah sanders said chief of staff john kelly and strategist steve bannon mutually agreed on his exit but sources tell us the president had grown frustrated by bannon's rising profile and recent publications describing him as the mastermind behind trump's campaign. >> mr. bannon came on very late, you know that. i went through 17 senators, governors, and i won all the primaries. mr. bannon came on very much later than that. >> bannon was one of the first white house staff members hired and arrived with a nationalist da