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charlie rose show is provided by the following: >> so you begin how? >> some big revelation. >> sit luck or something else? >> i don't know what the formuln here? >> he pay be something we can deal with. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. >> we begin this week with a look at the news of the week. here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. >> former u.s. smart for new mexico pete demedici died at the age of 75. one of infinitesimal's most powerful and loved politician he. >> hurricane irma spared virtually no one. the entire state of florida.

>> sarah huckabee sanders responding. >> steve likes to speak in the most extreme measures. >> north korea firing another mix over japan. >> a terrorist attack tackles london's underground. >> serious and could have been more serious. >>ists a walkoff for number 22, the cleveland indianaian yaintsa new world record. >> your at which timer handle likes a post that was clearly porn. what happened? [♪ singing ] >> it was a screw up. i will say twitter went crazy with it. i went trending. >> can you definitively say it wasn't you? >> it wasn't me.

>> sister ann helping in the cleanup after hurricane irma. >> a nunn, surrounded by downed trees takes things into her own hands. >> i've never seen anyone happier than you are. >> the president says to me my gosh you look ten years longer. [♪ singing ] >> we heard a lot about the destruction in hurricane irma's path this week. but the storm's first american landfall was in the u.s. virgin islands. virgin no longer hurricane irma came ashore there as a category 5 storm destroying both homes and infrastructure. the island of st. john was particularly hard hit. 30 residents still missing, island without power and running water, many residents are still being evacuated by air and sea to st. croix.

, reporter on the island this week, thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> what was its like to land on an island where wherever you look there is no fresh water no infrastructure of any kind. >> these islands are tourist destinations. you are used to seeing palm trees and greef green grass. all the trees were stripped of their leaves. >> i'm familiar with the national parks down there. there's a mix of kind of wilderness and sort of built-up area in st. john. how did you find it? >> so the trees are all over the streets. it's just kind of -- >> mixed up. >> mixed up. yeah. >> exactly. >> utility polls are down, cars everywhere, a lot of disarray. >> there were reports and they were frightening actually without the infrastructure and the fresh water and the food

civil order completely broke down. did you see any evidence of that? >> the biggest thing when your door is knocked off or you don't have a rooch and there's no electricity -- roof and there's no electricity, you are sleeping in the blackness, a lot of people were concerned about their personal safety. no locks on the doors. trying to struggle to survive. a lot of people helping each other. >> injury and devastation what did you witness? >> yeah the start of a school year in most places. the schools haven't opened. the schools dot destroyed in this. the parents are in a particularly tough spot, there is glass everywhere, potential injuries with kids running around and everyone evere everyone -- everyone is trying to keep their family close and evacuate to the mainland if they can. >> how long do you think st.

john to recover do you think? >> it's going to take a year. i talked to fema officials when i was down there and they said don't expect a week or month long recovery, measure this in years. >> american taxpayers. puerto rico is in a serious debt problem. i understand the u.s. virgin islands were also in a serious debt problem with now cash flow issues going forward. >> yes moody's put out a report last week saying they can't quantify how expensive this would be but it could be a strain on the liquidity for the virgin islands. >> north korea launched yet another missile over japanese air space, assassination he on north korea further capping oil exports. although these are the harshest yet, the trrs argued for even more. how these would affect the

nuclear ambitions, charlie spoke with evan osm os, on assignment for the new yorker magazine. >> this trip began a few months ago with the idea, we have to go there to north korea to understand what's going on ton ground. they don't have diplomatic relations with the united states. you can't go to an embassy in washington. can you use the new york channel, an informal couple of odiplomats who in fact manage the relations with the united states. i contacted them and they said it's going to take a while. it took about five months but by august we had made an arrangement for me to go with a photographer mawmed max pinkerton and an assistant and on august 15th, this just happened to be a couple of days after donald trump had tweeted the united states was as he put it locked and loaded for a potential confrontation with

north korea. >> rose: when you got there what happened? >> when i got there they very clearly had a message they wanted to send the rest of the world approximately this was not a casual choice to allow an individual reporter. they typically allow reporters in large groups to come. but in managing the being nuclear program, what they wanted me to understand over and over they said it was that they will not give up their nuclear program. if there was ever a point where they might have been willing to bargain that away for the sake of other elements of a diplomatic relationship they believe that moment has passed. that is important because i at e moment, the united states strategy is predicated on trying to get north korea to give up its nuclear program. >> rose: why does it want a nuclear program? >> cherry they say three want it for self defense. as the north korean foirnlings told me their leader kim jong-un

does not want to end up like moammar gad fee o gadhafi or sam hussein and be executed. they talk about it open. >> rose: not by the united states? >> not by the united states, moammar ga gadhafi gave up his weapons in 2003. in 2011,s the united states and nato did assist in the overthrow of gadhafi with led to his execution. if they in fact do achieve self defense then do they go further? do they seek to try to reunify with south korea. to reduce it's security presence on the peninsula, that's one of the big debates that's going on now

♪ ♪ ♪ >> steve bannon is angry. i think we can all agree he is kind of an angry guy. the former streef strategist for president trump is back in breitbart news. a special prosecutor they are at best a dangerous distraction. here, is part of charlie's exclusive interview last week with the man many credit for donald trump's win in the 2016 election. >> all we had to do and he had won in the primaries is just set up a system to basically compare and contrast himself with hillary clinton, she is a standard bearer of the corrupt status quo. i'm the game changer. >> rose: let me ask you this there is an investigation as you have mentioned three in the congress and one by robert

mueller, investigating russian influence in the elections. what do you believe? you know what the national security institution believes. what do you believe? >> what do you mean what they believe, we don't really -- that there may have been -- i was there. it's a total and complete farce. russian conclusion is a farce. >> rose: i didn't say conclusion. did the russians try to influence the election? >> maybe something they did -- >> rose: maybe something they did? it's not what the cia believes, not what the fbi believes. >> have you scene the intelligence report? >> rose: i have seen the intelligence reports. >> i would never devolve claid information on this show but let me tell you, i think it is far from conconcludessive that the russians had any impact on this election. >> rose: that's not the question. did they try influence the american election, that's what the investigation is about. >> you have to wait until the

investigation is finished, all of you out there that are hanging your head on that there is going to be a big revelation you are going to be sorely dispoitd. we have the senate and house intelligence committee why don't we wait until they finish report? they are going to get it out to the public in time. i happen to think that today, today, mitch mcconnell and paul ryan ought to wrap up their work and say we want to see your work in 90 days. >> rose: why is the president so easy to criticize. >> he criticizes the russians all the time. he knows the russians are not good guys. he knows the russians oar kleptocracy. this is not a naive guy. he understands the shortcomings of people he understand the people. he doesn't put the russians on some pedestal.

it is another fantasy of the opposition party and that's my point. i don't take the media seriously. the reason i don't, it is a propaganda arm for the permanent upper clasp. >> let's talk about inside the white house. james comey was fired, correct? >> as i remember yes, sir. >> rose: were you in favor to him being fired? >> as it was reported, the media reported i was adamantly opposed to. >> rose: in this case the media was right? >> i am a big believer in this city. that it's a city of institutions not individuals. and i think you have to look at it as institutions. the fbi is an institution. the speaker of the house is an institution. the majority leader is an institution. okay? the justice department is an institution. they have an institutional logic of how they proceed and what they're going to do and you can't get caught up in individuals. >> rose: as soon as you say that you have announced you want

to go to war against mitch mcconnell the leader of the senate, you want to go to war with him. >> yes. >> rose: you just say he represents an institution, senate majority leader, you want to go to war with paul ryan because he is an institution. you didn't want to go to war with james comey because he represents another institution is there not a contradiction in that? >> no. those institutions can be changed if the leadership is changed. i don't believe that the nooucial logic of the fbi particularly with regard to a investigation could change ahead of its. >> rose: it is also true many say and you're a smart guy that if james comey had not been fired, we would not have the mueller investigation, true? >> i don't think there is any doubt that if james comey had not been fired we would not have a special investigation.

>> rose: the mueller investigation. >> a mueller investigation in the breadth that clearly mr. mueller is going. >> rose: someone described to me that you described the firing of james comey you we're student of history as the biggest mistake in public utility history. >> that would probably be too bombastic than even for me but maybe in the modern history. >> rose: the firing of james comey was the biggest mistake in modern political history. >> if you are saying this is attributed to me i'll go along with that. >> rose: because? >> there is nothing to the russiaation. it's a waste of time. >> another terrorist attack on friday, this time in the plond subway. a home made bhoam explode during the morning rush hour at the parsons green tube station. at least two dozen were injured.

meanwhile in new york the united nations was holding a conversation, bjorn keiler is himself a survivor of a terrorist attack on the norwegian island of utola. bjorn thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> what are your feelings when newscasters say, another terrorist attack, we're getting used to this thing. >> to me, every terrorist attack is devastating. i know what the families of the people who were there are going through. it is always painful to see these things. and it's kind of scary to see that we are getting used to this in some sort of way and that we are stopping to care at the same level as we used to care in a way. because this is an strel

important topic. it is something we have to work in every community to combat, against extremism everywhere. >> so many people who have experienced the same kinds of things that you have experienced as well as people who have been drawn into extremist groups radicalized for one reason or the other, the question is how that deliberateness of evil and the production of mayhem and murder, grows. and you witnessed it on that island, because you survived and you could see the gunman in his deliberateness, moving from person to person. can you take us there at all? is that an appropriate question to even ask? >> i mean it's an appropriate question by all means. i think the deliberateness is an important factor of these extremist attacks, these terrorists aren't coming out of nowhere, they are people that have planned these attacks and

they are convinced that the attacks that what they are doing is right in some sort of way. so bravik claimed himself that he went through about a decade of planning and preparing for his attack. and to me that was visible on the island. >> when you contemplate events like what happened in london on friday acknowledge do you feel -- friday, do you feel as no brevik is coming from a galaxy far away or he is actually not so far from what we like to think of ourselves as civilized? >> i mean, he isn't from that far away. and i think that's important to remember, when we're trying to deal with extremists. these are people that come from our neighborhoods from our communities. bravik grew up in oslo, so did i. our histories are not that different. we have the whole socioeconomics

and all that. that's wung defining factor of all extremists. this fear of people who have different ideas, a different way of life. that's why brevik attacked and why i.s.i.s. around other organization he are attacking people. they want people to be the same. they are extremely afraid of diversity, afraid of the fact that this diversity may be a threat to their way of life or change their way much life. in some sort of way we have to have people comfortable with diversity, and that we don't harbor an existential fear. >> what you're saying it sounds like is that technology isn't helping right now. >> technology needs to get better at that right now. what we are seeing in social media is what is called filter

bubbles, people who have the same ideas, like the same stuff on facebook so get more ever that same kind of narrative of what's going on, i think the same technology can be utilized, to interject new ideas into communities to say i like a lot of this stuff on facebook so send me some of this stuff so i might not like so much so i get a diversity of ideas. the technology is there and can be tweaked to do that but we have to be willing to do that and we have to be willing to focus op our technologies at creating better communities rather than just getting more clicks. [♪ singing ] ♪ ♪

>> that's the sound of st. paul of the broken bones. the band's new album is called a sea of noise. r & b and funk rock with a healthy dose ever soul. >> it's that transcendent thing. he was pretty good for 2017, you want it to be he was just pretty good. >> rose: have you been performing? >> i've been performing since i was four years old in church. >> rose: do people praise your voice? >> yes, at the time i had a pastor who held me down a little bit. to be fair he was trying to teach me a bit about humility. he did, i think, i hope. i never thought i'm a good singer, because i wanted to be a appreciator, that's what i wanted to do. falling in love with that stuff, going into a bar and doing an

open mic night, i wasn't up of a guitar player but i remember getting a reaction. >> rose: what was the reaction? >> they had that face, with the eyes wide open. >> rose: listening. >> they are listening and whoa, you kind of heard a gasp. i know it's not my guitar playing, i'm not a very good guitar playing. i went okay, i gradual felt like that is what i wanted to do and it kept on growing. i can't -- it's weird for us. i don't know what the formula is, all i know is we always have this saying before we go on stage. it's oasis peez. pizza. >> rose: oasis pizza? >> i don't know why they booked us but it was early on.

my mentality, to give five or 50,000 to give people the best show that they can possibly have. at the time, we still have that mentality, obviously it's grown it's like convert them. either get 'em identity or convert them. and so -- get 'em out or convert them. i remember being in that pizza joint. i stand on top of the table and kick people's pizzas and screaming in their faces. i always say you gift it all you got no matter what. >> rose: did you do it instinctively? >> i'm hot or cold, i don't mildly do something. it's either 100% on or it's zero. you know what i mean? and so when we play a show it's like, you fif it everything you -- give it everything you possibly got. >> here is what's new for your weekend. neil young willie nelson, john

mellencamp highlight the farm aid concert in burkettsville. the festival runs all weekend long in flushing meadows, and the movie adaptation of american assassin is in theaters. >> in the movies. >> and here's a look at the week ahead. sunday is the day stephen colbert hosts the scientist annual prime time emmy awards. monday hillary clinton starts a book tour for what happened, her account of the 2016 election.

tuesday, debate against the 72nd regular session of the united nations general assembly. wednesday is the first of the women's wear shows at milan fashion week. thursday is the start of professional golf tour championship in atlanta, georgia. friday is the first day of the i heart radio music festival in the t-mobile arena in las vegas. invictus games in toronto, canada. >> that's "charlie rose: the week" for this week. what we wanted to note is the founder of the royal shakespeare theater company, sir peter hall. 12th night back in 2011, he was diagnosed with dementia soon after. here is sir peter hall at the table. interi would like to be a

conductsor, i have to say, i've had a lucky life professionally and i've had a wonderful life. if you say to me you're going going back to go and say what would you like to do again? ieferred be a director. >> theater director? >> yes. it's the best job in the world, terribly tiring and terribly demanding. you get paid for living in chekof's head for a month. pretty amazing. >> funding for charlie rose was provided by the following.

steves: the dramatic rock of cashel is one of ireland's most evocative sites. this was the seat of ancient irish kings for seven centuries. st. patrick baptized king aengus here in about 450 a.d. in around 1100, an irish king gave cashel to the church, and it grew to become the ecclesiastical capital of all ireland. 800 years ago, this monastic community was just a chapel and a round tower standing high on this bluff. it looked out then, as it does today,

over the plain of tipperary, called the golden vale because its rich soil makes it ireland's best farmland. on this historic rock, you stroll among these ruins in the footsteps of st. patrick, and wandering through my favorite celtic cross graveyard, i feel the soul of ireland.

welcome to the program. charlie rose is assignment. i talked to activist bjorn ihler. >> it's not with the individual but our communities and our communities are mixing. we have to learn to live with people who have different backgrounds who are from different communities have to learn to live together in constructive and positive ways. there are tensions that occur there but a lot of it really has to do with communication and the fact that communication between communities of people who live close to each other is breaking down. >> we continue with a look at the destruction of hurricane irma holman >> it will be a long recovery.