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>> so you begin how? >> i care a lot about it. >> is it luck or something else? >> a lot of those lines are blurred a little bit. >> rose: what's the object lesson here? >> you've got to have something new. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. >> this was the week the trump administration began its push to revamp the tax code. there was new tension over the iran nuclear diehl and aaron judge broke the record of single season home runs. here are the headlines. >> hugh hefner died at the age of 91. >> sex is probably the single most important thing that men are interested in. >> hurricane damaged puerto rico. >> the governor of puerto rico is so grateful for the job we're doing. it's such a difficult job

because it is on an island in the middle of an ocean. >> president trump unveiled a sweeping new tax plan. >> we better get it done. >> three months after he was shot are congressman steve solis salise made a return to congress. >> the bowk is dead. >> it might be dead but it keeps reverifying. >> allowing women to drive nor the first time. >> i got a plan to get us out at a here ♪ >> instead of cruising on in for the touched he loads in and gets stripped from shined. behind. >> apparently checked the wrong box and is registered a female

voters voter. >> jared kushner registered as a female voter. i say lock her up lock her up lock her up. [♪ singing ] >> it was a challenging week for the trump administration. the clock ran out on its effort to repeal obamacare. the president's tax plan faces an uncertain future on capitol hill and there's questions about officials use ever private e-mail and government aircraft. joining me from the white house is jonathan carl from the white house. jonathan, let's talk about presidential aircraft. secretary of health and human services. >> health and human services secretary tom price has resigned, a statement put out said he offered his resignation to president trump earlier today

and it was accepted. >> you look aat what he's done he has offered to reimburse but the reimbursement is a fraction of the total cost of the private jets that he requested and used to go to these various events. it was more than $400,000 just in domestic travel so price came out after initially defending his use of these private jets. he comes out saying he regrets doing it shouldn't have done it and he is going to pay back the taxpayer for cost of his seat on these planes. that is about $52,000 by the secretary's calculation. the seats don't fly alone. he seemed to have made that calculation based on what a business class ticket would have cost to go to those various dangers. >> what are pruitt and various others involvement? >> this is something he doesn't wants his private secretaries booking private jets.

pruitt had a number of private flights back to his home state of oklahoma. the reason price stands outs, among all of those, price first of all did it more often. that one startling flight that really captures the imagination. $25,000 to book a private jet between washington and philadelphia. as you know jeff, i know you like that acela corridor, can you get to philly by jumping on a train. the idea that would you drive out to dulles to get a private plane is quite extraordinary. >> jonathan, puerto rico has gained a lot of attention but some say attention too late for many in the white house. the president is scheduled to visit on tuesday. what are we expecting from that? >> the president is going to visit. he's also, they've appointed a three star general as you oh to oversee the relief operations,

the u.s. naval ship comfort is on its way to provide additional assistance. there are a lot of resources and assets going into puerto rico. but there are a lot of questions about whether or not the president acted quickly enough and you had an extraordinary comment here by the act homeland security secretary, elaine duke, who said that started citing all of the legitimate data about the amount of relief that is heading to puerto rico, there is already aarrived from the federal government, and she called it a good news story. that did not sit well with the mayor of san juan, who rather strongly pushed back after hearing those comments. and, you know, puerto rico is a tremendous challenge. it's a much bigger challenge than even what we saw with harvey, in houston or irma throughout the state of florida. this is a tremendous challenge and it's unclear whether or not the federal response is really

up to what it needs to be. of course the critics have been calling it already, this donald trump's katrina. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> in his speech to the u.n. last week president trump threatened to walk away from the iran nuclear deal. this week charlie salt down with iranian foreign minister javad zarif at the asia society for his reaction. >> to give concession you take concession from the other side. and it would be sustainable if you put the concessions and pocket them, nobody else will come and negotiate with the united states. united states will become phone as an undeveloped pattern. nobody else would trust the

rest. i think united states has to prove itself, that it is a reliable partner. >> rose: had you saying that there will be no new negotiations with the country that negotiated the nuclear deal? it is a closed deal that iran has no interest in negotiating any new aspects of that deal? nor does iran have any interest in suggestion 50 french -- by te french president that they have new negotiations on the deal? no interest? >> iran and other members of plus 1 with one exception believe it should not be reopened. because they know every aspect of the deal, was subject to long negotiation. on other issues. iran has always certainly as an independent issue, iran has always been ready to engage with

the international community. i just had a meeting that i assured him that iran would continue to cooperate in order to bring an end to the disaster in syria. let me remind you four years ago i presented a four point plan for resolution of the crisis in syria. unfortunately people were not prepared to take it. then events proved that my plan was right. now we are trying with mr. de mistura, whether we can add something the process which has brought the escalation -- >> rose: tell us where that is in terms ef iran's perspective, the possibilities for extending the -- >> that deal is done. the united states believed. >> rose: if the united states - >> chose to advocate.

♪ ♪ >> tensions continue to rise over north korea's pursuit of nuclear weapons and there is concern that president trump's rhetoric may be making the situation worse. charlie spoke with nick burns a form he undersecretary of state for foreign affairs and deputy of the cia, michael morell. >> the north koreans are a few months away, six to 12 from demonstrating the capability of putting a u.s. city at risk of nuclear attack. there's three pieces, charlie that you have to have. one is, nuclear weapons. the ability to get a nuclear yield out of an explosion. that's 100%. we know that. we know they have that. they've demonstrated it, they've

tested got that guaranteed. the second is, the ability to deliver a payload, the distance you want it to go. they've done a couple of tests that demonstrated a capability to put a missile as far east as chicago or detroit. we don't know 100% what the weight of the payload that they tested was so we don't know exactly how far they can deliver a nuclear weapon. >> rose: as far as chicago. >> as far as chicago or detroit. we don't know how much the payload weighed, that is a big determining nant how far it can go. check for sure the weapon, check ton missile and the third piece can you make a nuclear weapon small enough to fit on a missile. intelligence community thinks they can do that. and then the last piece, the last piece is can you make it all work, can you make all the electronics work under the intense vibrations of takeoff and reentry and the heat and

pressure. that we just don't know where they are so hns, the fundamental problem we have, right -- so hence the fundamental problem we have. diploma i think nick is the diplomat here, but i think diplomacy is the right approach. i think putting pressure on them is the right approach, after 25 years of pressuring them, though, i'm not 100% sure, in fact i'm uncertain that as the going to stop him from ultimately demonstrating that capability. >> rose: does the language of the united nations have this impact? it makes him realize america's really angry and serious about this, or b, it makes them more certain in their desire to do something that will hurt the united states? >> i think language of the president over the last eight or nine days confuses them. what we need to do, based on mike's analysis is to back to what we did so effectively in the cold war.

streastrategic deterrence. he is evil but he's not a madman. we assume he's rational. what eisenhower would have done or reagan on bill clinton would have tboan said the following. the united states is not going to be the aggressor. we're not going to attack north korea. but should they seek to attack japan, or asia, we will respond with strategic deterrence. ♪ ♪ >> in 2016, hillary clinton received more votes than any other u.s. presidential candidate in history except for president obama. yet despite winning the popular vote she lost the election. what happened is the title of the candidate's new memoir. >> i accept a lot of the criticism i got because yeah i do think policies matter.

i'm worried sick about this move by the republicans to do this phony health care bill. i'm worried because at the end of this week, the children's health insurance program which insures eight or nine million kids may not get reauthorized. id i.t. mearts charlie. i worry about these children affected by these policies so yes i care about it. more than that i think job is supposed to really humble you. that is what you i've seen. i remember sitting in the l oval office, you know, two case after 9/11 with george w. bush. >> rose: he was humbled. >> he was humbled, i looked into his eyes, i knew the shock and pain he must feel and was there to ask for help for new york. which he promised and delivered on. i've been with, you know, barack obama in the situation room making really difficult

decisions including whether you go after osama bin laden and you first have to say, there are limits to what we know. and we have to operate within an environment in which we know we will never know everything. and that humbles you. now, we seem to have a president who doesn't care, and doesn't know what he doesn't know. who operates totally viscerally based on his gut. and his highest and most favored response is that yell of the crowd that consists of people who support him. who buy into him. who love him. who could see no wrong in anything that he does. and i think it's a dangerous time. i've said i think that his presidency poses a clear and present danger to our country. >> rose: a clear and present danger? >> yes i do. >> rose: meaning what? >> meaning several things. to continue to divide this country among rate and religion,

ethnicity and gender is really doing damage. you can see it already in some of the blow back and backlash that we're seeing whether it's silicon valley fighting over women in tech, or seeing the kinds ever bullying that's -- of bullying in school yards or parents having to tell their kids after they hear something the president said. we are e pluribus unum. >> rose: from anyone. >> yes. and all of a sudden it's divide and conquer on every front. go after those black athletessing theiathleteswho arr constitutional ripe president. >> get him off the field, he's fired! >> thinking about being president i knew i'd have to do

a lot of work for people who didn't support me who believed a lot of lies about me who are all on the other side of the partisan divide but i thought that's what you should expect xp a president to -- you should examine a president texpect a p. >> rick decker is back. harrison ford played the protagonist in the science fiction classic, blade runner. he plays decker in blade runner 2049. >> a lot of it is problem solving, you don't know what you're going to get and you've got to work it out and there's pressure of time and circumstance. and so it's exciting. >> rose: away kind ever problems do you solve as an actor? >> how to get the camera motivated from one side of the

room to the other. how to move -- how to match the capacity of the dolly grip to push a heavy piece of equipment, somehow work with -- i'm working with the doyle grip as much as i'm working with the director. all sorts of problems of story telling. >> rose: what about the character you already know? >> hopefully you don't know him in these new circumstances and the point of the script is to put him in new circumstances. advance the audience's understanding of the character. bring him into another place. you can't do the same thing over and over again. you got to have something new. >> they know you're here. >> a lot of what blade runner is about is what does it mean to be human? what does it mean to be human if you don't know where you came from? how can you figure out where you're going? >> rose: so how do you see rick? >> rick decker is a -- >> rose: man, supplicant?

>> charlie don't go there, man. >> rose: no? >> you'll have ridley banging down the door. >> rose: he doesn't want that? >> i think the genius of whether decker is a replica or a human is one of the delicious aftertastes of the first film. and it may be present in the rest of the second. >> rose: okay but you insist that he's not a replica, you're thought going to disclose either because it's up to everybody who watches the film to make their own judgment? >> no, i made the choice as an actor, as a participant in the telling of the story, to hold the point of view because i thought it was important, that the audience might require somebody on screen that they could depend on to be human.

so that they woo have an emotion representative in this story. and ridley said yeah, but what if they're wrong? isn't that interesting? i said yeah, that is interesting. >> rose: you had to approach it in terms of your own mind and getting inside of rick that in fact he was human so the audience could have somebody to hold on to that was human. >> but the fact is it didn't matter whether i thought i was human and wasn't or whether i thought i was human and was. ♪ ♪ ain't about to forget ♪

>> new york times recently called matt de marco the face of indie rock, concept of growing old and growing up, it is called this old dog. >> what's the definition of indie rock? >> i'm not an independent label so that is part of you know something to do with it. i guess i do it at my house on my own. i think it's just what is seemingly not, you know, got all the bells and whistles and the very net strings of a huge major label production or something like that. especially nowadays with the internet and the way things go a lot of those lines are kind of blurred a little bit. i don't know. i think a lot of the time nowadays people would kind of just say that a lot of people, indie rock kind of guitary, it is almost like it's become a musical genre, rather than an

idea of how the music is brought up into the public, you know what i mean? >> rose: most singer songwriters, that is my supposition, think of themselves songwriters, rather than singers. >> i'm not much of a singer not much of a songwriter, maybe i'm oconartist a little bit of both. but it holds some kind of weight, like a singer songwriter, even been called an artist i still feel weird about that. i was 18 making snongs my garage and turns out after a bit of time some people listened to them. it's cool but it's weird to grapple with that kind of label i guess. >> rose: does it come easy? >> sometimes i guess. but i think that's the beautiful thing about it. is you never really know when it's going to work why it's going to work, where it's going to work if it works at all. >> rose: you get up in the

morning and you say i need to write a song and you think about it and you sort of given to -- >> for me like i don't know. >> rose: trial and error. >> like paul mccartney gets down to the piano and says okey-dokey, here is one of the best songs ever written. it is the collection of time, i want to sit some way and recording presence, i do have a thing at home alone, i think that's part of it as well and hopefully at some period in there, i can hit a streak ever writing these songs and three work out and -- and it doesn't work sometimes and it becomes very frustrating. >> are you conscious of developing astage persona? >> i take steps, as the venue gets bigger, i prefer to do a couple of shows at a smaller place rather than just trying to do the biggest one every time you know? >> rose: it's bigger than it

was before. >> it's growing, it's great but i think, i always say this. there is kind of the crowd and there's also up on the stage, it is not an art gallery, we're all in the same room together. ♪ ♪ >> here's what's new for your weekend. shania twain releases now, the singer's first album in 15 years ♪ ♪ ♪ >> active shooter a new documentary series on mass shootings in america begins running on showtime. >> we knew that we were going to be the first officers in that door. >> and the state fair of texas opens for a month-long run in dallas. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> state fair of texas pps. >> here's a look at the week ahead. sunday is is last day of major league baseball's regular season. monday is the first day of the supreme court always fall term.

tuesday is the day the ceo of exwii fax appears before a congressional committee to testify on the exwii fax data breach. wednesday is the first day of professional hockey's season. televised white house address. the nobel peace prize is announced in oslo norway. >> that is "charlie rose: the week." we want to note the passing of hugh hefner. he was 91. as the founder of playboy magazine, chalingsd social conventions, championed the first amendment and provided a platform for the cutting edge writers of the time. he'll be buried next to the

woman who graced the first cover of playboy in 1953, marilyn monroe. here is hugh hefner. >> it was olifetime magazine, the knowledge pictures as crude as they were, they were food and drink fashion and automotive, even when i couldn't afford the good writers i was using public domain material. >> rose: for more on this program, for more about this program, visit us at pbs.org and charlierose.com. funding for charlie rose was provided by the following.

>> rose: welcome to the program. tonight an hour on the u.s.-iranian relationship. we talked to iran's foreign minister javazarif. >> we believe that if iran accepted certain increased monitoring of its activities, certain greater transparency, it did not need to go through extra limitations. and the united states and some others believed we needed some period of confidence building, and this was a subject of great negotiations, so we agreed to ten years of limitations for iran's enrichment activities. we agreed to keeping our at